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Date: 21 Sep 2007 11:23:57
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Pointless ITT analysis
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Hi All,
Here are 2 graphs showing speed and HR for two cyclists on a 10km TT
on regular road bikes. The out and back course is more or less flat.
The turn around is higher than the start/finish.
http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
Joseph
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 23:46:51
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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On Sep 23, 3:22 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > In article <1190399037.435056.238...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >>http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
>
> >>http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
>
> >> What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> >> Joseph
>
> > Rider 2 had to buy the post-race beers, but probably doesn't care
> > because he didn't have to use frigging Windows to graph his Polar data.
>
> > Rider 2 has eccentrically chosen to use HR gridlines spaced at 6.5 bpm
> > intervals. What, is that a conversion from Imperial heartbeats?
>
> Rider 2 also exhibits poor judgment in encoding plots using JPEG. I wouldn't trust him.
>
> Dan
I think you guys are on to something here! ;-)
Joseph
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 20:07:08
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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On Sep 21, 2:59 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 21, 11:39 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
> wrote:
>
> > > What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> > Rider 2 is heavier?
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> Taller, too.
Rider 1 is faster.
Ben
RBR Data Mining Specialist
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 07:20:23
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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"bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote in
news:1190491628.710647.197770@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 21, 2:59 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 11:39 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > > What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>>
>> > Rider 2 is heavier?
>>
>> Taller, too.
>
> Rider 1 is faster.
So then Rider 1 is the doper?
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 12:59:33
From:
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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joseph.santaniello wrote:
> rechung wrote:
>
> > Dan Connelly wrote:
>
> > > > What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> > > Rider 2 is heavier?
>
> > Taller, too.
>
> What makes you say that?
As Dan pointed out, outbound-inbound difference suggests rider 2 is
heavier. However, higher inbound speed also suggests better watts/
meter^2, which scales less than linearly with height.
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 10:44:23
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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On Sep 21, 11:59 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 21, 11:39 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
> wrote:
>
> > > What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> > Rider 2 is heavier?
>
> Taller, too.
What makes you say that?
Joseph
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 01:24:40
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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In article <1190399037.435056.238250@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
"joseph.santaniello@gmail.com" <joseph.santaniello@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here are 2 graphs showing speed and HR for two cyclists on a 10km TT
> on regular road bikes. The out and back course is more or less flat.
> The turn around is higher than the start/finish.
>
> http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
>
> http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
>
> What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> Joseph
Rider 2 had to buy the post-race beers, but probably doesn't care
because he didn't have to use frigging Windows to graph his Polar data.
Rider 2 has eccentrically chosen to use HR gridlines spaced at 6.5 bpm
intervals. What, is that a conversion from Imperial heartbeats?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 18:22:54
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <1190399037.435056.238250@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
>>
>> http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
>>
>> What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>>
>> Joseph
>
> Rider 2 had to buy the post-race beers, but probably doesn't care
> because he didn't have to use frigging Windows to graph his Polar data.
>
> Rider 2 has eccentrically chosen to use HR gridlines spaced at 6.5 bpm
> intervals. What, is that a conversion from Imperial heartbeats?
>
Rider 2 also exhibits poor judgment in encoding plots using JPEG. I wouldn't trust him.
Dan
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 14:59:27
From:
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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On Sep 21, 11:39 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> > What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> Rider 2 is heavier?
Taller, too.
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 22:53:51
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here are 2 graphs showing speed and HR for two cyclists on a 10km TT
> on regular road bikes. The out and back course is more or less flat.
> The turn around is higher than the start/finish.
>
> http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
>
> http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
>
> What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
Dumbass,
The students here are all dumbasses and can only answer multiple
choice questions. Please rephrase.
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 18:39:23
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Here are 2 graphs showing speed and HR for two cyclists on a 10km TT
> on regular road bikes. The out and back course is more or less flat.
> The turn around is higher than the start/finish.
>
> http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
>
> http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
>
> What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>
> Joseph
>
Rider 2 is heavier?
Dan
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Date: 21 Sep 2007 13:04:58
From: Geraard Spergen
Subject: Re: Pointless ITT analysis
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Dan Connelly wrote:
> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Here are 2 graphs showing speed and HR for two cyclists on a 10km TT
>> on regular road bikes. The out and back course is more or less flat.
>> The turn around is higher than the start/finish.
>>
>> http://arbitrary.org/tt_1.gif
>>
>> http://arbitrary.org/tt_2.jpg
>>
>> What can be deduced about the riders based on this info alone?
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>
> Rider 2 is heavier?
>
> Dan
Heart rate at the end of a 10km max effort is sometimes cited as a good
estimate of MHR. The two riders would therefore have close to the same
MHR as each other.
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