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Date: 18 Jun 2007 19:10:44
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Subject: Racing number windbreaker
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Hey has anyone ever seen this? I just found the link. Now here's a new
way to use your old race numbers! http://www.11gear.us/11g.html
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 21:42:17
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 22, 11:49 pm, Fred Fredburger
<Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh > wrote:
>
> The sad fact is, I couldn't remember a single real insult from anyone in
> this NG. I don't even recall if Henry has actually called me a dumbass.
> He must have, right?
Of course. He's totally indiscriminate in his dumbassery - an equal
opportunistic dumbasser.
R
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 23:41:03
From:
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 21, 5:30 am, Fred Fredburger
<Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh > wrote:
> In my time in this newsgroup, I have been called a homo by TK, a dumbass
> by Henry and the Copycats, accused of nepotism by Curtis and of
> polluting this newsgroup for centuries to come by Donald.
That's nuthin'. I've been called gay by Tom, an idiot by Tom, racist
by Tom, traitorous by Tom, a liar by Tom, ... and that's not an
exhaustive list. I wear them as a badge of honor.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 23:38:04
From:
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 20, 3:13 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> You still don't get it. You are the messenger _and_ the message.
> That's how it works. [...] if you'd done this on eBay you'd have 50% or
> more negative feedback and no one in their right mind would buy from
> you.
>
> Let this thread die, start another one - starting fresh
This is right, but not quite sufficient. Changing the subject isn't
the same thing as rehabilitation. No one gives a rat's ass that
Sheldon Brown, or Jacobouwsky, or Muzi, or Peter Chisholm, or
Sheffield, or Hickey before he ran off, occasionally point out stuff
they were sellling that might be of interest to us. There are two
reasons: first, they were up-front about it. Second, they stuck around
even when they weren't selling anything, and added content to the
group. If Rick wants to run away now, the last memory we have (and, as
I pointed out, Usenet has a long memory) will be of an untrustworthy
retailer. If he sticks around and adds content to the group, the bad
memory will eventually get replaced by good memory. That's how he
should rehab his rep. Be a man, stick around, and add value.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 18:13:21
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 8:35 pm, rick <r...@ahavisual.com > wrote:
> On Jun 19, 5:04 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:40:28 -0700, rick <r...@ahavisual.com> wrote:
> > >> > Aw shoot. I'll cop to it. Next time I'll read the FAQ.
> > >> > Apologies, though I did enjoy reading the reactions.
>
> > >> You have to read a FAQ to know that pretending that you "just found"
> > >> something, when you're the founding father, is unacceptable? C'mon.
> > >> You can do better than that.
>
> > >> There's a word for lying while trying to sell something.
>
> > >> R
>
> > >hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item I
> > >thought the users of this list might find interesting. I'm learning
> > >from my experiences and I'll represent myself more objectively in the
> > >future. Thanks for your frank comments, though. Always refreshing to
> > >read people's unvarnished opinions, especially yours.
>
> > Yah know as a participant you'd be welcome here - obviously an interesting
> > outlook to offer the products you've got. A lot of the people posting here have
> > something to sell as well. The difference is, they are honest about it.
>
> > "Dudes, check out this great new website I found!" is no more persuasive than
> > "Dudes, I make this killer stuff. I sure can understand lying to avoid trouble
> > and even outright fraud makes its own shortsighted sense. But why not be square
> > when offering a perfectly legitimate product for sale to a probable audience.
> > There are rules and customs that regulate and restrict spamming. The use of a
> > sock puppet doesn't waive any of them. Makes it worse, even.
>
> > Mostly, the sock puppet sale pitch has been done so damn long and often it's
> > become sort of insulting.
>
> > Ron
>
> Hi, Ron. I sort of understood that earlier. I appreciate your telling
> me again though in a tone that is considerably more civil. I agree
> with you. I have put my sock puppet in the drawer, so to speak.
>
> BTW Ron what do you think of the race number windbreaker? I've only
> gotten one or two comments before the "shoot the messenger" thing
> kicked in.
You still don't get it. You are the messenger _and_ the message.
That's how it works. You tried to separate the two as if that would
somehow matter to anyone. If you have a good product (you seem to -
though I think it's overpriced (no doubt due to your local labor
costs), and you're straightforward in your dealing with people, you'll
sell them.
Think of it this way - if you'd done this on eBay you'd have 50% or
more negative feedback and no one in their right mind would buy from
you. You'd have to change user IDs.
Let this thread die, start another one - starting fresh - and we'll
all be proud of you. Your sales will sky rocket, you'll have a killer
IPO, hang out at Jeff Bezos house and be implicated in some nightclub
scandal with Paris Hilton.
R
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 17:35:41
From: rick
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 5:04 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:40:28 -0700, rick <r...@ahavisual.com> wrote:
> >> > Aw shoot. I'll cop to it. Next time I'll read the FAQ.
> >> > Apologies, though I did enjoy reading the reactions.
>
> >> You have to read a FAQ to know that pretending that you "just found"
> >> something, when you're the founding father, is unacceptable? C'mon.
> >> You can do better than that.
>
> >> There's a word for lying while trying to sell something.
>
> >> R
>
> >hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item I
> >thought the users of this list might find interesting. I'm learning
> >from my experiences and I'll represent myself more objectively in the
> >future. Thanks for your frank comments, though. Always refreshing to
> >read people's unvarnished opinions, especially yours.
>
> Yah know as a participant you'd be welcome here - obviously an interesting
> outlook to offer the products you've got. A lot of the people posting here have
> something to sell as well. The difference is, they are honest about it.
>
> "Dudes, check out this great new website I found!" is no more persuasive than
> "Dudes, I make this killer stuff. I sure can understand lying to avoid trouble
> and even outright fraud makes its own shortsighted sense. But why not be square
> when offering a perfectly legitimate product for sale to a probable audience.
> There are rules and customs that regulate and restrict spamming. The use of a
> sock puppet doesn't waive any of them. Makes it worse, even.
>
> Mostly, the sock puppet sale pitch has been done so damn long and often it's
> become sort of insulting.
>
> Ron
Hi, Ron. I sort of understood that earlier. I appreciate your telling
me again though in a tone that is considerably more civil. I agree
with you. I have put my sock puppet in the drawer, so to speak.
BTW Ron what do you think of the race number windbreaker? I've only
gotten one or two comments before the "shoot the messenger" thing
kicked in.
Best,
-r.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 15:21:11
From: rick
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 3:46 pm, "Mark Fennell" <marco_fenne...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Rick wrote:
> >> Lying Spammer? Can I put that on my business card?
> rechung wrote:
> > No need. We'll do it for you, along with "untrustworthy retailer."
> > Usenet has a pretty long memory.
>
> I'll add (perhaps) to his rapidly expanding usenet record, but not something
> negative like about his initial advertising approach...
> Rick: are you the same Rick Pepper who was from Santa Barbara, and raced
> Nevada City as a junior a long time ago? If so, what a bizarre
> coincidence... I just posted the pages from an old Nevada City program on my
> blog and circled a few interesting names. Since your name was in there and
> you were listed as from SB, I circled it. Check it out, a few posts down, athttp://marcofanelli.blogspot.comand click on the pages of the program to
> see full size.
>
> BTW, see how a shameless yet somewhat-more-honest plug for traffic works?
> (Not sure why I would want traffic though...)
>
> Mark
Mark! whoah. Yes it's me. Did you used to race for SBCC? I thoroughly
enjoyed your blog. Yeah Nevada City used to be the show that's for
sure. I never had any good results at that race other than a prime.
You are so right you need to train for that one. One year I trained
for it with Larry Shields and Chris Jordan and broke their legs in
training. But race day rolled 'round and I couldn't hang with the
leaders. Something about no recovery before max exertions. That plus
we had those crappy Shimano AX brakes that year. NCC is a race where
good braking can make a difference. Your Garmin data was impressive.
Looked like it hurt for sure.
Best,
-Rick
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 16:59:22
From: Mark Fennell
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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> Did you used to race for SBCC?
Yes, but not way back then.
Nevada City is still an incredible race, maybe one of the longest
continuously-running events in the US (?) and it's a shame it doesn't still
have some kind of National Calendar status. That doesn't stop some really
good guys from showing up however!
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 15:14:06
From: rick
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 3:46 pm, "Mark Fennell" <marco_fenne...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Rick wrote:
> >> Lying Spammer? Can I put that on my business card?
> rechung wrote:
> > No need. We'll do it for you, along with "untrustworthy retailer."
> > Usenet has a pretty long memory.
>
> I'll add (perhaps) to his rapidly expanding usenet record, but not something
> negative like about his initial advertising approach...
>
> Rick: are you the same Rick Pepper who was from Santa Barbara, and raced
> Nevada City as a junior a long time ago? If so, what a bizarre
> coincidence... I just posted the pages from an old Nevada City program on my
> blog and circled a few interesting names. Since your name was in there and
> you were listed as from SB, I circled it. Check it out, a few posts down, athttp://marcofanelli.blogspot.comand click on the pages of the program to
> see full size.
>
> BTW, see how a shameless yet somewhat-more-honest plug for traffic works?
> (Not sure why I would want traffic though...)
>
> Mark
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 14:18:54
From:
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 11:06 pm, rick <r...@ahavisual.com > wrote:
> Lying Spammer? Can I put that on my business card?
No need. We'll do it for you, along with "untrustworthy retailer."
Usenet has a pretty long memory.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 14:46:07
From: Mark Fennell
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Rick wrote:
>> Lying Spammer? Can I put that on my business card?
rechung wrote:
> No need. We'll do it for you, along with "untrustworthy retailer."
> Usenet has a pretty long memory.
I'll add (perhaps) to his rapidly expanding usenet record, but not something
negative like about his initial advertising approach...
Rick: are you the same Rick Pepper who was from Santa Barbara, and raced
Nevada City as a junior a long time ago? If so, what a bizarre
coincidence... I just posted the pages from an old Nevada City program on my
blog and circled a few interesting names. Since your name was in there and
you were listed as from SB, I circled it. Check it out, a few posts down, at
http://marcofanelli.blogspot.com and click on the pages of the program to
see full size.
BTW, see how a shameless yet somewhat-more-honest plug for traffic works?
(Not sure why I would want traffic though...)
Mark
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 14:06:31
From: rick
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 1:56 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 19, 10:47 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > So you're a lying spammer and you know it.
Lying Spammer? Can I put that on my business card? Whatever. Like I
said I'm new to the usenet and will do better from now on.
Thanks for calling me all those names. You've really spiced up my day.
I'll crush a hill this afternoon in your honor.
Thanks everyone else for cutting me a little slack and giving this guy
a break.
-r.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 04:15:40
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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In article
<1182287191.838867.196030@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com >
,
rick <rick@ahavisual.com > wrote:
> On Jun 19, 1:56 pm, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 10:47 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > So you're a lying spammer and you know it.
>
> Lying Spammer? Can I put that on my business card? Whatever. Like I
> said I'm new to the usenet and will do better from now on.
>
> Thanks for calling me all those names. You've really spiced up my day.
> I'll crush a hill this afternoon in your honor.
>
> Thanks everyone else for cutting me a little slack and giving this guy
> a break.
I planned not to say anything until you accused me of
cutting you slack. I am not giving you a break. You are
dishonest. I looked at the page and considered the
novelty of having one of those jerseys, then saw they
are $74. You are dishonest and a price gouger.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 20:30:59
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Michael Press wrote:
> I planned not to say anything until you accused me of
> cutting you slack.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it had almost slipped by me.
In my time in this newsgroup, I have been called a homo by TK, a dumbass
by Henry and the Copycats, accused of nepotism by Curtis and of
polluting this newsgroup for centuries to come by Donald. NOBODY before
has ever had the temerity to accuse me of cutting someone some slack.
Where does this guy think he is? I am gravely concerned!
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 00:05:39
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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"Fred Fredburger" <Fred.Fredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh > wrote in
message news:ROmdnc8kXOl5beTbnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...
> Michael Press wrote:
>
>> I planned not to say anything until you accused me of cutting you slack.
>
> Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it had almost slipped by me.
>
> In my time in this newsgroup, I have been called a homo by TK, a dumbass
> by Henry and the Copycats, accused of nepotism by Curtis and of polluting
> this newsgroup for centuries to come by Donald. NOBODY before has ever had
> the temerity to accuse me of cutting someone some slack. Where does this
> guy think he is? I am gravely concerned!
Where did I accuse you of being a homo? Are you Kveck in drag?
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 20:49:41
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Fred Fredburger" <Fred.Fredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote in
> message news:ROmdnc8kXOl5beTbnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>
>>> I planned not to say anything until you accused me of cutting you slack.
>> Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it had almost slipped by me.
>>
>> In my time in this newsgroup, I have been called a homo by TK, a dumbass
>> by Henry and the Copycats, accused of nepotism by Curtis and of polluting
>> this newsgroup for centuries to come by Donald. NOBODY before has ever had
>> the temerity to accuse me of cutting someone some slack. Where does this
>> guy think he is? I am gravely concerned!
>
> Where did I accuse you of being a homo? Are you Kveck in drag?
I strained to come up with a list of insults that would pale in
comparison to "cutting someone some slack". I can only say that, as
concerns the truth, liberties were taken.
The sad fact is, I couldn't remember a single real insult from anyone in
this NG. I don't even recall if Henry has actually called me a dumbass.
He must have, right?
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 09:18:40
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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In article
<xvqdncgWgbWiBeHbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@comcast.com >,
Fred Fredburger
<Fred.Fredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh > wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
> > "Fred Fredburger" <Fred.Fredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote in
> > message news:ROmdnc8kXOl5beTbnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> Michael Press wrote:
> >>
> >>> I planned not to say anything until you accused me of cutting you slack.
> >> Thank you for bringing this to my attention, it had almost slipped by me.
> >>
> >> In my time in this newsgroup, I have been called a homo by TK, a dumbass
> >> by Henry and the Copycats, accused of nepotism by Curtis and of polluting
> >> this newsgroup for centuries to come by Donald. NOBODY before has ever had
> >> the temerity to accuse me of cutting someone some slack. Where does this
> >> guy think he is? I am gravely concerned!
> >
> > Where did I accuse you of being a homo? Are you Kveck in drag?
>
> I strained to come up with a list of insults that would pale in
> comparison to "cutting someone some slack". I can only say that, as
> concerns the truth, liberties were taken.
>
> The sad fact is, I couldn't remember a single real insult from anyone in
> this NG. I don't even recall if Henry has actually called me a dumbass.
> He must have, right?
This is a tough crowd.
If you want insults, they are easily obtained in rbt.
Just step on somebody's orthodoxy.
(No, that is not the honey that assists your children's orthodontist.)
--
Michael Press
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Date: 23 Jun 2007 10:04:21
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> The sad fact is, I couldn't remember a single real insult from anyone in
> this NG. I don't even recall if Henry has actually called me a dumbass.
> He must have, right?
Dumbass,
You've got to work harder to achieve dumbass, never mind retard, status.
Perhaps Kunich could give you a few lessons.
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Date: 23 Jun 2007 10:53:12
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>> The sad fact is, I couldn't remember a single real insult from anyone in
>> this NG. I don't even recall if Henry has actually called me a dumbass.
>> He must have, right?
>
> Dumbass,
> You've got to work harder to achieve dumbass, never mind retard, status.
> Perhaps Kunich could give you a few lessons.
Having thought about this some more, I now recall exchanging insults
with one person where I truly, honestly believed them to be retarded or
crazy or something. Everything they said was spun and twisted so much
that reality had no influence. Even when they were correct, it was for
the wrong reasons. That was Brian Lafferty, back in the days before I
became a cartoon character.
So I'm pleased to have come up with something suitable to compare with
the insult of "cutting some slack", at long last.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 20:56:30
From:
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 10:47 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> > hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item
>
> So you're a lying spammer and you know it.
So he's an untrustworthy retailer, and we know it.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 20:54:55
From:
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 9:59 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> There's a word for lying while trying to sell something.
Bush?
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 13:40:28
From: rick
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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> > Aw shoot. I'll cop to it. Next time I'll read the FAQ.
> > Apologies, though I did enjoy reading the reactions.
>
> You have to read a FAQ to know that pretending that you "just found"
> something, when you're the founding father, is unacceptable? C'mon.
> You can do better than that.
>
> There's a word for lying while trying to sell something.
>
> R
hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item I
thought the users of this list might find interesting. I'm learning
from my experiences and I'll represent myself more objectively in the
future. Thanks for your frank comments, though. Always refreshing to
read people's unvarnished opinions, especially yours.
-r.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 20:04:29
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:40:28 -0700, rick <rick@ahavisual.com > wrote:
>> > Aw shoot. I'll cop to it. Next time I'll read the FAQ.
>> > Apologies, though I did enjoy reading the reactions.
>>
>> You have to read a FAQ to know that pretending that you "just found"
>> something, when you're the founding father, is unacceptable? C'mon.
>> You can do better than that.
>>
>> There's a word for lying while trying to sell something.
>>
>> R
>
>hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item I
>thought the users of this list might find interesting. I'm learning
>from my experiences and I'll represent myself more objectively in the
>future. Thanks for your frank comments, though. Always refreshing to
>read people's unvarnished opinions, especially yours.
Yah know as a participant you'd be welcome here - obviously an interesting
outlook to offer the products you've got. A lot of the people posting here have
something to sell as well. The difference is, they are honest about it.
"Dudes, check out this great new website I found!" is no more persuasive than
"Dudes, I make this killer stuff. I sure can understand lying to avoid trouble
and even outright fraud makes its own shortsighted sense. But why not be square
when offering a perfectly legitimate product for sale to a probable audience.
There are rules and customs that regulate and restrict spamming. The use of a
sock puppet doesn't waive any of them. Makes it worse, even.
Mostly, the sock puppet sale pitch has been done so damn long and often it's
become sort of insulting.
Ron
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 22:47:54
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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rick schreef:
> hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item
So you're a lying spammer and you know it.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 22:47:01
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> rick schreef:
>> hey excuse me: I was just trying to get some exposure for an item
>
> So you're a lying spammer and you know it.
>
>
OK, I get the complaint about spamming. But lying? He's a capitalist and
he's advertising. What standards for honesty apply?
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 10:40:45
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> OK, I get the complaint about spamming. But lying? He's a capitalist and
> he's advertising. What standards for honesty apply?
http://edumacation.com/AdvertisingStandardsAroundTheWorld
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 12:59:25
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 2:59 pm, rick <r...@ahavisual.com > wrote:
> > Much as I think the stuff on their site is cool, you just posted a
> > link to something else of their's on another cycling group.
>
> Aw shoot. I'll cop to it. Next time I'll read the FAQ.
> Apologies, though I did enjoy reading the reactions.
You have to read a FAQ to know that pretending that you "just found"
something, when you're the founding father, is unacceptable? C'mon.
You can do better than that.
There's a word for lying while trying to sell something.
R
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 11:59:00
From: rick
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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> Much as I think the stuff on their site is cool, you just posted a
> link to something else of their's on another cycling group.
Aw shoot. I'll cop to it. Next time I'll read the FAQ.
Apologies, though I did enjoy reading the reactions.
-R.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 07:13:01
From:
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 1:36 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 19, 10:10 am, r...@ahavisual.com wrote:
>
> > Hey has anyone ever seen this? I just found the link. Now here's a new
> > way to use your old race numbers!http://www.11gear.us/11g.html
>
> Much as I think the stuff on their site is cool, you just posted a
> link to something else of their's on another cycling group. Are you
> deliberately spamming for this company or just a twerp?
>
> -M
Deliberate spam. Both ahavisual.com and 11gear.com are registered to:
Pepper, Richard
874 Gravenstein Avenue No. 4
Sebastopol, CA 95472-4555
US
707-824-2007 Fax: 707-824-4337
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 05:29:31
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 4:39 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> > All great RBR trolls occur (so Hegel says) twice: the
> > first time as tragedy, the second as farce.
>
> Surely you mean Hagel alluding to Vietnam and Iraq.
Hazel, not Hagel, Hegel or even Kegel.
http://tvland.classictvhits.com/Hazel/
Wise woman, that.
R
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 07:48:16
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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Some spammer wrote:
> Hey has anyone ever seen this? I just found the link. Now here's a new
> way to use your old race numbers! http://www.11gear.us/11g.html
I never liked the term Fred. But that's beyond Fredly.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/79a6c188ca76f822/50f1db8825ce8a1f
All great RBR trolls occur (so Hegel says) twice: the
first time as tragedy, the second as farce.
Ben
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 10:39:59
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> All great RBR trolls occur (so Hegel says) twice: the
> first time as tragedy, the second as farce.
Surely you mean Hagel alluding to Vietnam and Iraq.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 05:36:26
From: Marian
Subject: Re: Racing number windbreaker
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On Jun 19, 10:10 am, r...@ahavisual.com wrote:
> Hey has anyone ever seen this? I just found the link. Now here's a new
> way to use your old race numbers!http://www.11gear.us/11g.html
Much as I think the stuff on their site is cool, you just posted a
link to something else of their's on another cycling group. Are you
deliberately spamming for this company or just a twerp?
-M
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