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Date: 01 Jun 2007 09:19:07
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Rational thinking?
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From:
http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns
<Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
the cyclists are sure they won't be punished. >
Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
children, perhaps?
<The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
in Friday editions. >
"Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
this"?
<"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
it." >
"Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux
< Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
the past and confess what needs to be confessed."
Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
time to decide." >
A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 18:06:07
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Rational thinking?
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On Jun 1, 3:25 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 1, 12:19 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > > From:
>
> > > http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> > > <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
> > > including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
> > > manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
> > > the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>
>
> > > Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
> > > children, perhaps?
>
> > > <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
> > > the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
> > > in Friday editions.>
>
> > > "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
> > > this"?
>
> > > <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
> > > it.">
>
> > > "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux
>
> > > < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
> > > hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
> > > followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
> > > the past and confess what needs to be confessed."
>
> > > Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
> > > the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
> > > time to decide.">
>
> > > A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
> > > nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y
>
> > Nice to see, even the possibility of, a pause in the insanity and some
> > rational thought. I hope the UCI does it and ignores the screams and
> > slander that'll come from Pound on this.
>
> dumbass,
>
> you are obsessed with dick pound.
>
> maybe you should stop looking for a scapegoat for cycling's
> problems ?
>
> there is some (but not a lot of) merit to the idea that pound's
> attitude created the climate that led to the LNDD mess, but even that
> is a stretch.
>
> dick pound didn't make the telekom riders dope and then admit it this
> past week and he didn't bust festina or the madrid lab.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not just Pound. I have problems in general with dictatorial,
egomaniacal, assholes who only choose to persecute the weakest. He's
still looking for those FIFA names in Puerto, and any sign of
wrongdoing in the IOC that he couldn't find, right?
Bill C
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 15:03:56
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Rational thinking?
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On Jun 1, 4:01 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:
> As long as amnesty extends to those who say nothing.
A second breeze, sweet as morning after a stormy night.
Next: Enforceable rules? IOW, "Don't outlaw what you can't test for"?
Now there would be something even better than Omerta! (opinion) --D-y
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 14:01:54
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Rational thinking?
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In article
<1180714747.034899.199330@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"dustoyevsky@mac.com" <dustoyevsky@mac.com > wrote:
> From:
>
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
>
>
> <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
> including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
> manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
> the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>
>
> Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
> children, perhaps?
>
> <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
> the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
> in Friday editions.>
>
> "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
> this"?
>
> <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
> it.">
>
> "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux
>
> < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
> hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
> followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
> the past and confess what needs to be confessed."
>
> Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
> the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
> time to decide.">
>
> A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
> nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y
As long as amnesty extends to those who say nothing.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 19:25:27
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rational thinking?
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On Jun 1, 12:48 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net > wrote:
> On Jun 1, 12:19 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From:
>
> > http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> > <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
> > including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
> > manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
> > the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>
>
> > Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
> > children, perhaps?
>
> > <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
> > the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
> > in Friday editions.>
>
> > "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
> > this"?
>
> > <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
> > it.">
>
> > "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux
>
> > < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
> > hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
> > followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
> > the past and confess what needs to be confessed."
>
> > Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
> > the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
> > time to decide.">
>
> > A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
> > nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y
>
> Nice to see, even the possibility of, a pause in the insanity and some
> rational thought. I hope the UCI does it and ignores the screams and
> slander that'll come from Pound on this.
dumbass,
you are obsessed with dick pound.
maybe you should stop looking for a scapegoat for cycling's
problems ?
there is some (but not a lot of) merit to the idea that pound's
attitude created the climate that led to the LNDD mess, but even that
is a stretch.
dick pound didn't make the telekom riders dope and then admit it this
past week and he didn't bust festina or the madrid lab.
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 09:48:38
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Rational thinking?
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On Jun 1, 12:19 pm, "dustoyev...@mac.com" <dustoyev...@mac.com > wrote:
> From:
>
> http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=ap-uci-doping&prov=ap&type=lgns
>
> <Despite a string of recent confessions from prominent riders --
> including 1996 Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis -- UCI anti-doping
> manager Anne Gripper said she doubts more confessions will come unless
> the cyclists are sure they won't be punished.>
>
> Well, put a woman in charge (sarcasm off)-- experience in dealing with
> children, perhaps?
>
> <The UCI received several suggestions for an amnesty and will consider
> the option next week, Gripper told Danish newspaper Berlingske Tidende
> in Friday editions.>
>
> "Maybe we can sink a few more careers while we screw around with
> this"?
>
> <"To create a new future, you have to admit the past and learn from
> it.">
>
> "Dealing With Children", Pt. Deux
>
> < Only that way we can move on in a 'clean way,"' Gripper said. "We
> hope that the latest statements from Germany and Denmark will be
> followed by other riders from other countries. Let us be open about
> the past and confess what needs to be confessed."
>
> Gripper could not be reached Friday. UCI spokesman Enrico Carpani said
> the Swiss-based body may consider an amnesty, but that "we need some
> time to decide.">
>
> A cyclone of fresh air blows through cycling. Quick, everybody take a
> nice, long breath or two. Whew! Smells good! --D-y
Nice to see, even the possibility of, a pause in the insanity and some
rational thought. I hope the UCI does it and ignores the screams and
slander that'll come from Pound on this.
That would be the first step in creating a reasonable environment
surrounding this whole mess. Now the riders need to form a real union,
support each other, and force the UCI and Wada to treat them like
human beings.
Bill C
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