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Date: 23 May 2007 07:41:51
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: If Johnny Cochran Was Still Here...
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On May 23, 9:51 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <bnd853t4gs0ftc585cf9di2b9p00oee...@4ax.com>,
> Doug Taylor <dtay...@dreamscape.com> wrote:
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> > On 22 May 2007 22:05:51 -0700, wimpyVO2 <wimpyVO2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >...he'd say, "If the batch doesn't fit, you must acquit."
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> > >Dr. Simon Davis made LNDD look bad today. Test results with missing or
> > >batch numbers out of sequence. Magnets placed where they aren't
> > >supposed to be, skewing the ion field. A manual which says to operate
> > >at 2 to 4 x 10-6 mbar, Mongongue operates it at 6 x 10-6. Pressures
> > >that vary from sample to sample.
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> > >Reminds me of high school chemistry. Just mix stuff until you get the
> > >"right" result.
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> > There you go. Perfect analogy: O.J. and Floyd
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> > 1) Obviously guilty perp.
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> > 2) Perp's personal explanation of what "really" happened utterly
> > absurd.
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> > 3) Perp lawyers-up with high paid suits to obfuscate the facts and the
> > science.
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> > 4) Character assassination of witnesses.
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> > 5) Big time publicity campaign to sway credulous public opinion.
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> > 6) Partisan shills jumping on the bandwagon.
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> > This is the FACT: Anyone who NEEDS a lawyer like Johnny Cochran to
> > "get them off" is guilty as sin, and if they get off, they'll be
> > respected among people with brains just about as much as O.J. is now.
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> Were that it were so. The fun part of medical lab testing is the number*
> of innocent people getting cleared these days by DNA evidence, in some
> cases springing them from jail.
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> I'm pretty sure all those people NEEDED a lawyer like Johnny Cochran,
> they just didn't have one.
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> Or the Duke lacrosse players, for a more recent example of a group of
> people whose lives were nearly ruined by overzealous prosecution.
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> I should say that, while it doesn't matter a whit, I'd bet on OJ's
> guilt. I didn't follow the trial closely. However, post-trial interviews
> with some jurors suggested that they found problems with the timeline
> the most compelling evidence in favor of Mr. Simpson.
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> *small relative to the number of people in prison, sure, but not a
> trivial number by any means.
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> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos- Hide quoted text -
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Hey Ryan
I agree with you that OJ was most likely guilty and wish that he had
been convicted properly. Given the conduct of the cops in the case I'm
really happy that he walked. It's incredibly unlikely IMO that he'll
repeat and the system out there was, and very well may still be,
seriously messed up.
Like you said lots of people really need good agressive lawyers with
the money to really dig into things and don't have them. Over the last
several years there's been a ton of problems here with getting lawyers
to do public defender stuff because the State is paying peanuts and
they end up waiting a long time for even that. I'd have to look it up,
or maybe Brian knows offhand, but I thought that rather than increase
the payments they came up with something to force them to do it.
That's not exactly gonna make them want to really fight for their
clients. There are some really good Defenders out here though, but
they are massively overworked and I have to wonder how long before
they burn out.
Bill C
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Date: 23 May 2007 12:08:47
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: If Johnny Cochran Was Still Here...
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On 23 May 2007 07:41:51 -0700, Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:
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>Hey Ryan
>I agree with you that OJ was most likely guilty and wish that he had
>..etc
>Bill C
Is it just me, or are a lot of people having trouble with their news
posters?
Or maybe it is just my newsgroup source. Still, this seems about the
tenth time lately I've gotten multiple posts and not all from the same
poster...
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 23 May 2007 15:12:20
From: Mike Iglesias
Subject: Re: If Johnny Cochran Was Still Here...
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In article <dlp8539q56eefls7efeif85d6iri00hh99@4ax.com >,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote:
>On 23 May 2007 07:41:51 -0700, Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote:
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>>Hey Ryan
>>I agree with you that OJ was most likely guilty and wish that he had
>>..etc
>>Bill C
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>Is it just me, or are a lot of people having trouble with their news
>posters?
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>Or maybe it is just my newsgroup source. Still, this seems about the
>tenth time lately I've gotten multiple posts and not all from the same
>poster...
I'm seeing it too. Looks like all the recent repeated postings were posted
at googlegroups...
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Mike Iglesias Email: iglesias@uci.edu
University of California, Irvine phone: 949-824-6926
Network & Academic Computing Services FAX: 949-824-2069
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Date: 23 May 2007 17:11:41
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: If Johnny Cochran Was Still Here...
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:08:47 -0400, Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> are a lot of people having trouble with their news posters?
With Google.
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E. Dronkert
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