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Date: 22 Jul 2007 16:23:24
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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As the saying goes, there's something rotten in Denmark about Rasmussen's
domination. And also there's something rotten in Denmark about Discovery
having two in the top 4. If there is something illegal going on here, the
time for the French Police to act, is now, not 3 months after the final
podium presentation in Paris.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 21:04:22
From: Tim
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:23:24 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
<jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote:
>As the saying goes, there's something rotten in Denmark about Rasmussen's
>domination. And also there's something rotten in Denmark about Discovery
>having two in the top 4. If there is something illegal going on here, the
>time for the French Police to act, is now, not 3 months after the final
>podium presentation in Paris.
>
3 minutes is domination? Very close tour. I think it is perfectly
natural to expect a natural climber to do well in the mountains. Much
more questionable is when guys weighing 75+ kilos are dominating in
the mountains beating the climbers.
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 19:43:26
From: Stu Fleming
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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Tim wrote:
> 3 minutes is domination? Very close tour. I think it is perfectly
> natural to expect a natural climber to do well in the mountains. Much
> more questionable is when guys weighing 75+ kilos are dominating in
> the mountains beating the climbers.
I'm waiting for a Chung Chart before reaching a conclusion...
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 20:35:55
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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in message <0wLoi.10725$Od7.3663@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
Callistus Valerius ('jazzyboss@hotmail.com') wrote:
> As the saying goes, there's something rotten in Denmark about Rasmussen's
> domination. And also there's something rotten in Denmark about Discovery
> having two in the top 4. If there is something illegal going on here,
> the time for the French Police to act, is now, not 3 months after the
> final podium presentation in Paris.
Why should there be anything rotten or criminal going on here? Rasmussen is
a very focussed guy, who has demonstrated that he's the most consistent
super-climber in the peloton three years running. This time he's got his
team riding to support him.
This doesn't prove he's /not/ doping, of course. But it certainly isn't any
sort of evidence that he is.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
'there are no solutions, only precipitates'
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 21:39:17
From: Doug Taylor
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:35:55 +0100, Simon Brooke
<simon@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:
>Why should there be anything rotten or criminal going on here? Rasmussen is
>a very focussed guy, who has demonstrated that he's the most consistent
>super-climber in the peloton three years running. This time he's got his
>team riding to support him.
>
>This doesn't prove he's /not/ doping, of course. But it certainly isn't any
>sort of evidence that he is.
It may be only circumstantial, but it's still evidence.
Cofidis team manager Eric Boyer:
"For the past three years he (Rasmussen) has been a great rider for
the three weeks of the Tour. Before and after, we don't know where he
is. When you know how the human body of a top cyclist works, it just
doesn't make sense."
http://www.velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12882.0.html
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 03:50:15
From: .J.S...
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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"Doug Taylor" <dtaylor@dreamscape.com > wrote in message
news:lg18a3hkha9ar9tj1hbblq0pf4tp39ciii@4ax.com...
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> It may be only circumstantial, but it's still evidence.
>
> Cofidis team manager Eric Boyer:
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> "For the past three years he (Rasmussen) has been a great rider for
> the three weeks of the Tour. Before and after, we don't know where he
> is. When you know how the human body of a top cyclist works, it just
> doesn't make sense."
>
Could be said about Armstrong too..
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 09:45:56
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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in message <46a40957$0$15875$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk >, .J.S...
('mr_nobody@nowhere.com') wrote:
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> "Doug Taylor" <dtaylor@dreamscape.com> wrote in message
> news:lg18a3hkha9ar9tj1hbblq0pf4tp39ciii@4ax.com...
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>> It may be only circumstantial, but it's still evidence.
>>
>> Cofidis team manager Eric Boyer:
>>
>> "For the past three years he (Rasmussen) has been a great rider for
>> the three weeks of the Tour. Before and after, we don't know where he
>> is. When you know how the human body of a top cyclist works, it just
>> doesn't make sense."
>>
> Could be said about Armstrong too..
Indeed. And with better reason.
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simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; my other religion is Emacs
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 21:54:38
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:50:15 +0200, ".J.S..." <mr_nobody@nowhere.com >
wrote:
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>"Doug Taylor" <dtaylor@dreamscape.com> wrote in message
>news:lg18a3hkha9ar9tj1hbblq0pf4tp39ciii@4ax.com...
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>> It may be only circumstantial, but it's still evidence.
>>
>> Cofidis team manager Eric Boyer:
>>
>> "For the past three years he (Rasmussen) has been a great rider for
>> the three weeks of the Tour. Before and after, we don't know where he
>> is. When you know how the human body of a top cyclist works, it just
>> doesn't make sense."
>>
>Could be said about Armstrong too..
Except that when he deigned to show up in other events he was very
strong.
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JT
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 15:32:47
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:23:24 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
<jazzyboss@hotmail.com > wrote:
>As the saying goes, there's something rotten in Denmark about Rasmussen's
>domination. And also there's something rotten in Denmark about Discovery
>having two in the top 4. If there is something illegal going on here, the
>time for the French Police to act, is now, not 3 months after the final
>podium presentation in Paris.
Could you please shut up. I'm not saying Rasmussen is clean -- I
believe most top pros are doing something.
But your logic about whoever does really well being doping is just
tiresome.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 11:34:52
From: Paul Cassel
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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Callistus Valerius wrote:
> As the saying goes, there's something rotten in Denmark about Rasmussen's
> domination. And also there's something rotten in Denmark about Discovery
> having two in the top 4. If there is something illegal going on here, the
> time for the French Police to act, is now, not 3 months after the final
> podium presentation in Paris.
>
>
Too late for the French Police (?) to field a team. Good idea, though.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 19:25:18
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Something rotten in Denmark.....
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Paul Cassel wrote:
> Callistus Valerius wrote:
>> As the saying goes, there's something rotten in Denmark about Rasmussen's
>> domination. And also there's something rotten in Denmark about Discovery
>> having two in the top 4. If there is something illegal going on here,
>> the
>> time for the French Police to act, is now, not 3 months after the final
>> podium presentation in Paris.
>>
>>
> Too late for the French Police (?) to field a team. Good idea, though.
LMAO
Bill
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