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Date: 13 Jul 2007 16:12:33
From: Sandy
Subject: Stripped jerseys
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I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise the
final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as they
may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.
This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be admitted
that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome is in
evolution.
--
Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine
*******
La vie, c'est comme une bicyclette,
il faut avancer pour ne pas perdre l'équilibre.
-- Einstein, A.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 18:54:53
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Jul 13, 3:50 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:13:39 +0100, Simon Brooke
> >> This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
> >> admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
> >> is in evolution.
>
> >They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.
>
> So some pictures will have fans and maybe support vehicles, but no
> racers in them?
>
> Sweeet!
They'll have retroactive testing for the fans and
support vehicles too. If you drank a thermos of
coffee to stay awake after driving all night to
reach the Tourmalet, or if you violated caravan
rules in your team car, that same software that
paints the virtual ads on the soccer pitch and
the banners at the edge of the field can just as
easily be used to erase you from the picture.
On the bright side, Prudhomme has figured out that
he can use Photoshop to put LANCE's face on the body
of Eric-the-guy-who-tackled-Guerini.
Ben
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 14:36:55
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Jul 13, 2:18 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 13, 4:13 pm, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Sandy ('leu...@frree.fr') wrote:
>
> > > This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
> > > admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
> > > is in evolution.
>
> There is no such thing as evolution, just Intelligent Design which
> started 6000 years ago with Adam and Eve and Buddha, who was stripped
> of his title for mushrooming into Nirvana.
Budda is a fatty master who is half naked and worshipped. Life is
strange.
> > They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.
The painting wasn't the part that hurt most.
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 09:58:34
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> Budda is a fatty master who is half naked and worshipped. Life is
> strange.
Don't tell the fatty masters or they'll all convert to Buddhism.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 14:18:42
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Jul 13, 4:13 pm, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:
> Sandy ('leu...@frree.fr') wrote:
>
> > This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
> > admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
> > is in evolution.
There is no such thing as evolution, just Intelligent Design which
started 6000 years ago with Adam and Eve and Buddha, who was stripped
of his title for mushrooming into Nirvana.
> They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.
Ummm.....Photoshop?
R
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 09:27:00
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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RicodJour wrote:
>> They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.
>
> Ummm.....Photoshop?
The Soviets invented Photoshop, you know.
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 21:08:31
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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in message <TcOdnUqxEcdGZQXbnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@comcast.com >, Fred Fredburger
('FredFredburger@WhereAreTheNachos.huh') wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>
>>> They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like
>>> Stalin.
>>
>> Ummm.....Photoshop?
>
> The Soviets invented Photoshop, you know.
As in "in Soviet Russia, the Government photoshops you..."
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; "If I were a Microsoft Public Relations person, I would probably
;; be sobbing on a desk right now" -- Rob Miller, editor, /.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 21:13:39
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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in message <46978851$0$22397$426a34cc@news.free.fr >, Sandy
('leurre@frree.fr') wrote:
> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased
> by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>
> I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise
> the
> final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
> future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as
> they may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.
>
> This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
> admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
> is in evolution.
They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
Wannabe a Web designer?
<URL:http://userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/97dec/19971206.html >
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 18:50:00
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:13:39 +0100, Simon Brooke
<simon@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:
>in message <46978851$0$22397$426a34cc@news.free.fr>, Sandy
>('leurre@frree.fr') wrote:
>
>> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased
>> by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>>
>> I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise
>> the
>> final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
>> future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as
>> they may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.
>>
>> This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
>> admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
>> is in evolution.
>
>They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.
So some pictures will have fans and maybe support vehicles, but no
racers in them?
Sweeet!
--
JT
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 17:23:00
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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Sandy wrote:
> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
> ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
goose is no longer a gander.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 14:22:22
From: bob sullivan
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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ASO only strips jerseys from non-Frenchmen.
~bob s.
Donald Munro wrote:
> Sandy wrote:
>
>> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
>> ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>
> What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
> goose is no longer a gander.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 20:49:30
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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Dans le message de news:Be2dnRWSkLi_XgrbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com,
bob sullivan <bsullivn@comcast.net > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> ASO only strips jerseys from non-Frenchmen.
>
> ~bob s.
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
>> Sandy wrote:
>>
>>> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be
>>> erased by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>>
>> What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a
>> male goose is no longer a gander.
Well done on two counts.
Showing you are incapable of following a thought.
Putting a spotlight on your cosmopolitain attitude
Do you always slum in July?
--
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Sandy
--
Si les autres parties du monde ont des singes ; l'Europe a des Français.
Cela se compense.
[Arthur Schopenhauer]
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 15:02:48
From: bob sullivan
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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Wow, a little touchy there, Sandy. Is it not true that Virenque
doped? And is it not true that it doesn't matter to the majority
of French fans that he doped, that he's still considered a hero
of Le Tour?
C'est vrai.
~bob s.
Sandy wrote:
> Dans le message de news:Be2dnRWSkLi_XgrbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com,
> bob sullivan <bsullivn@comcast.net> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
>> ASO only strips jerseys from non-Frenchmen.
>>
>> ~bob s.
>>
>> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Sandy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be
>>>> erased by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>>> What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a
>>> male goose is no longer a gander.
>
> Well done on two counts.
>
> Showing you are incapable of following a thought.
> Putting a spotlight on your cosmopolitain attitude
>
> Do you always slum in July?
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 13:33:57
From: Bounty Bob
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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bob sullivan wrote:
> Wow, a little touchy there, Sandy. Is it not true that Virenque
> doped? And is it not true that it doesn't matter to the majority
> of French fans that he doped, that he's still considered a hero
> of Le Tour?
> C'est vrai.
> ~bob s.
Wasn't Virenque ejected the 'year' he doped? Strictly
speaking they are only taking one of Zabels jerseys not
the lot. You could apply that logic to it.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 11:42:54
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:23:00 +0200, Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>Sandy wrote:
>
>> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
>> ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>
>What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
>goose is no longer a gander.
The question is more whether une jars is a gander.
Ron
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 22:15:03
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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Donald Munro wrote:
>>What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
>>goose is no longer a gander.
RonSonic wrote:
> The question is more whether une jars is a gander.
To put it in terms a fatty master would like, it all comes down to
whether you prefer foie gras to andoulette.
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 08:42:07
From: Andy B.
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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"Donald Munro" <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:4697dd9a$0$9827$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> Donald Munro wrote:
> To put it in terms a fatty master would like, it all comes down to
> whether you prefer foie gras to andoulette.
>
I accidentally ordered andoulette in Grenoble once....sure wish I had
ordered foie fras.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 23:04:10
From: Andrew Price
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:15:03 +0200, Donald Munro
<fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:
>To put it in terms a fatty master would like, it all comes down to
>whether you prefer foie gras to andoulette.
Or in the case of Mr Sullivan, une andouille.
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 08:17:53
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Jul 13, 9:12 am, "Sandy" <leu...@frree.fr > wrote:
> I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
> ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>
> I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise the
> final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
> future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as they
> may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.
>
> This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be admitted
> that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome is in
> evolution.
If they're all dopers, the record books must be wiped clean from the
moment they all signed the loyalty oath and pledged a year's salary to
the War on Doping.
Wait a minute-- some didn't sign, and some didn't admit to past sins
and crimes.
Well, let this be a lesson for any who are thinking about coming clean
(so to speak):
"It's gonna cost you".
The panties-up yankers are in power, beware! --D-y
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Date: 13 Jul 2007 10:47:19
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Stripped jerseys
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:12:33 +0200, "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr > wrote:
>I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
>ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
>
>I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise the
>final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
>future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as they
>may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.
>
>This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be admitted
>that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome is in
>evolution.
So, which is the better launch for a rant; Stalinist photo editing to remove the
offender or the ancient Pharoah having the heretic's name chiselled from the
monuments?
Hell, let's just go with both and point out that both Stalin and the Pharoah
look silly now.
Ron
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