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Date: 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: The sad sport....
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While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
the sad sport.
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Date: 09 Jan 2007 22:43:03
From: Raptor
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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Callistus Valerius wrote:
> While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
> the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
> helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
> had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
> all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
> show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
> the sad sport.
Anyone got a link to the story of the California teacher who was
relaxing in his basement when a sinkhole opened up beneath his house,
smothering him in debris?
--
Lynn Wallace
If FDR fought fascism the way Bush fights terrorism, we'd all be
speaking German now.
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Date: 10 Jan 2007 07:30:46
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:43:03 -0700, Raptor <lawall@xmission.com >
wrote:
>Anyone got a link to the story of the California teacher who was
>relaxing in his basement when a sinkhole opened up beneath his house,
>smothering him in debris?
Fark.com probably does.
--
JT
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 16:17:13
From: yeahyeah
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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k & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> This is a statistical concept that probably varies very much by
> location. I've driven many more miles in my life than I've ridden, but
> although I've been in a couple of auto accidents at significant speed,
> I've never been seriously injured. I've been in a couple of cycling
> accidents, and given the relative speeds I've been injured far worse.
It's not the speed that hurts, it's the stopping... I've come to a
sudden stop at 45mph or so into the rear end of a car while driving,
and suffered only a rather large insurance bill. However, coming to a
stop at a mere 2mph off my bike resulted in surgery, a rather nasty
titanium plate in my wrist, and another very large insurance bill.
However, I've successfully hit speeds of nearly 55mph on my bicycle
without injury.
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Date: 09 Jan 2007 14:57:50
From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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yeahyeah wrote:
> k & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
>
>
>> This is a statistical concept that probably varies very much by
>>location. I've driven many more miles in my life than I've ridden, but
>>although I've been in a couple of auto accidents at significant speed,
>>I've never been seriously injured. I've been in a couple of cycling
>>accidents, and given the relative speeds I've been injured far worse.
>
>
> It's not the speed that hurts, it's the stopping...
I like that--and entirely true.
I've come to a
> sudden stop at 45mph or so into the rear end of a car while driving,
> and suffered only a rather large insurance bill. However, coming to a
> stop at a mere 2mph off my bike resulted in surgery, a rather nasty
> titanium plate in my wrist, and another very large insurance bill.
> However, I've successfully hit speeds of nearly 55mph on my bicycle
> without injury.
There's no doubt that being surrounded by steel, and with seat belts
and airbags changes the dynamic. (I say this at the risk of awakening
the risk-compensation people).
Steve
>
--
k & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 11:09:15
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
> Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
Because then they'll make you wear a helllllmet?!?!?! --D-y
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 10:23:55
From:
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> > Life is dangerous. But the alternative, not experiencing life, is even
> worse.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
>
here here
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 09:14:56
From: gds
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
> RonSonic wrote:
> > On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
> > >the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
> > >helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
> > >had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
> > >all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
> > >show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
> > >the sad sport.
> >
> > In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over 40,000
> > eat it while in a car.
> >
> > Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
> >
> > Ron
>
> 40,000 / 700 = 57
>
> I'd be willing to bet the average American easily spends 57 times as
> many hours in a car as he does on a bike.
>
> Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
>
> -rj
Because it isn't. Neither is riding in a car.
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 08:38:40
From: ronaldo_jeremiah
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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RonSonic wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
> >the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
> >helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
> >had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
> >all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
> >show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
> >the sad sport.
>
> In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over 40,000
> eat it while in a car.
>
> Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
>
> Ron
40,000 / 700 = 57
I'd be willing to bet the average American easily spends 57 times as
many hours in a car as he does on a bike.
Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
-rj
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 21:29:19
From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
> RonSonic wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
>>>the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
>>>helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
>>>had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
>>>all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
>>>show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
>>>the sad sport.
>>
>>In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over 40,000
>>eat it while in a car.
>>
>>Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
>>
>>Ron
>
>
> 40,000 / 700 = 57
>
> I'd be willing to bet the average American easily spends 57 times as
> many hours in a car as he does on a bike.
>
> Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
>
> -rj
>
This is a statistical concept that probably varies very much by
location. I've driven many more miles in my life than I've ridden, but
although I've been in a couple of auto accidents at significant speed,
I've never been seriously injured. I've been in a couple of cycling
accidents, and given the relative speeds I've been injured far worse.
I'm sure if you did an analysis of accidents, injuries or deaths per
mile cycled or driven, the analysis would be far different in most of
Europe than it would be in the U.S.
Steve
--
k & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 13:55:31
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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On 8 Jan 2007 08:38:40 -0800, "ronaldo_jeremiah" <ronaldo_jeremiah@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>
>RonSonic wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
>> >the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
>> >helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
>> >had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
>> >all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
>> >show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
>> >the sad sport.
>>
>> In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over 40,000
>> eat it while in a car.
>>
>> Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
>>
>> Ron
>
>40,000 / 700 = 57
>
>I'd be willing to bet the average American easily spends 57 times as
>many hours in a car as he does on a bike.
>
>Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
Because it isn't.
Cycling in traffic can be dangerous, but so can walking or driving in traffic.
Ron
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 17:12:36
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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>> > While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders
>> > in
>> >the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
>> >helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said
>> >he
>> >had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued
>> >on,
>> >all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter,
>> >or
>> >show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate
>> >in
>> >the sad sport.
>>
>> In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over
>> 40,000
>> eat it while in a car.
>>
>> Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
>>
>> Ron
>
> 40,000 / 700 = 57
>
> I'd be willing to bet the average American easily spends 57 times as
> many hours in a car as he does on a bike.
>
> Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
Life is dangerous. But the alternative, not experiencing life, is even
worse.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"ronaldo_jeremiah" <ronaldo_jeremiah@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1168274320.662889.117880@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com...
>
> RonSonic wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
>> <jazzyboss@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders
>> > in
>> >the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
>> >helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said
>> >he
>> >had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued
>> >on,
>> >all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter,
>> >or
>> >show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate
>> >in
>> >the sad sport.
>>
>> In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over
>> 40,000
>> eat it while in a car.
>>
>> Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
>>
>> Ron
>
> 40,000 / 700 = 57
>
> I'd be willing to bet the average American easily spends 57 times as
> many hours in a car as he does on a bike.
>
> Cycling is dangerous. Why not admit it?
>
> -rj
>
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Date: 08 Jan 2007 09:37:27
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: The sad sport....
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:09:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com >
wrote:
> While participating in an organized ride, we saw one of the riders in
>the front mowed down by a car. The rider was medivaced out with a
>helicopter. One rider said he had no chance of making it, another said he
>had a good chance of surviving. Will find out tomorrow. We continued on,
>all thinking to ourselves, when will our number come up. No laughter, or
>show boating, only resignation, that we have all chosen to participate in
>the sad sport.
In the US something less than 700 people a year are killed on bikes. Over 40,000
eat it while in a car.
Yah know, that ain't bad odds.
Ron
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