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Date: 27 Sep 2007 13:47:03
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Subject: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Driver charged in 16-bike pileup near Libertyville
By Bob Susnjara
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Date: 29 Sep 2007 06:01:50
From: jshill
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Sep 27, 6:28 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> I was recently told, by someone reviewing a draft of a paper I'm writing, that I use far too many commas. In this case, a comma is a wonderful thing.
I'll bet that same person told you not to use hyphens either.
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Date: 29 Sep 2007 03:22:23
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Sep 28, 6:51 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > Yeah, sorry, it's not the format=flowed; that means space before line
> > breaks except double breaks (paragraphs). That actually is helpful for
> > re-wrapping. But you (Dan) don't have line breaks. In my Thunderbird
> > version, it hides under Preferences > Compose > General > Wrap plain
> > text messages at [x] characters (or similar, I don't have the English
> > version). Or perhaps: Preferences > Advanced > General > Configuration
> > editor > mailnews.wraplength = 72 _and_ news.wrap_long_lines = true.
>
> Okay.... I didn't realize it was possible to do this preferentially for news.
>
> I had it set long, because I often, as you know, send out text files with tables
> of aligned columns, which span more then 80 wide.
>
> Anyway, problem solved.... thanks.
That's what the extension I linked to earlier
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2351
is great for. It adds a menu entry for enable/disable
word wrap under "Options" in the Thunderbird compose
window, so you can turn it on and off quickly.
This is more or less the first thing I
installed when I started using Thunderturd for email,
as I also sometimes want to paste data tables and
such into email without having them "improved."
Ben
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 22:53:45
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Sep 28, 1:46 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > It's because Dan uses the setting "format=flowed", I think. Turn it
> > off, Dan! (See, a whole bunch of commas. That's one of the things I
> > have to keep in mind while writing in English; it uses a lot less
> > commas than Dutch. Or, maybe, I use a lot of commas.)
>
> Okay.... I shut it off. Perhaps a quote from Velonews is appropriate as a test: "During Wednesday evening's CrossVegas event Kona's Ryan Trebon won on a brand new pair of wheels from FSA, providing a good excuse to look at a few new deeper section carbon rims that debuted at this year's show. Besides FSA, both Easton and Reynolds have new or refined wheels for 2008. Titanium has also been a prominent product at this year's show, could it be that some, more traditionally minded riders are suffering from too much carbon fiber in their diet? We wouldn't go quite that far yet as it seems most of the industry is still gaga over string and glue construction for all types of components. Nonetheless Moots and Ritchey, among others, have been pushing out new products in the once wonder metal, titanium."
No. It doesn't work, because you aren't wrapping your lines.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/247ff313811c767c?dmode=source
Email and news clients work better if the sender wraps lines
rather than the recipient. This may be a holdover from 24x80
green screens, but that's life. It also means that you control
how your message looks.
I like this for Thunderbird:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2351
Although really, it oughta be built in.
Ben
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Date: 29 Sep 2007 02:49:57
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org schreef:
> On Sep 28, 1:46 pm, Dan Connelly wrote:
>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>> It's because Dan uses the setting "format=flowed", I think.
>> Okay.... I shut it off.
>
> It doesn't work, because you aren't wrapping your lines.
Yeah, sorry, it's not the format=flowed; that means space before line
breaks except double breaks (paragraphs). That actually is helpful for
re-wrapping. But you (Dan) don't have line breaks. In my Thunderbird
version, it hides under Preferences > Compose > General > Wrap plain
text messages at [x] characters (or similar, I don't have the English
version). Or perhaps: Preferences > Advanced > General > Configuration
editor > mailnews.wraplength = 72 _and_ news.wrap_long_lines = true.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 18:51:45
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Yeah, sorry, it's not the format=flowed; that means space before line
> breaks except double breaks (paragraphs). That actually is helpful for
> re-wrapping. But you (Dan) don't have line breaks. In my Thunderbird
> version, it hides under Preferences > Compose > General > Wrap plain
> text messages at [x] characters (or similar, I don't have the English
> version). Or perhaps: Preferences > Advanced > General > Configuration
> editor > mailnews.wraplength = 72 _and_ news.wrap_long_lines = true.
>
Okay.... I didn't realize it was possible to do this preferentially for news.
I had it set long, because I often, as you know, send out text files with tables
of aligned columns, which span more then 80 wide.
Anyway, problem solved.... thanks.
Dan
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Date: 29 Sep 2007 02:59:29
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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* Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > a écrit profondement:
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Date: 29 Sep 2007 02:39:56
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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* "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > a écrit profondement:
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 08:37:47
From: Gary
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Is the squirrel okay? Will it live???? Obviously for this man THAT was
the important thing!
dupedcyclist@aol.com wrote:
> Driver charged in 16-bike pileup near Libertyville
> By Bob Susnjara
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 05:27:25
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Sep 27, 6:26 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> William Asher wrote:
> > Dan Connelly wrote:
> >> I was recently told, by someone reviewing a draft of a paper I'm
> >> writing, that I use far too many commas. In this case, a comma is a
> >> wonderful thing.
>
> > In your case I would rather you use carriage returns and line feeds.
>
> Gee, I thought all modern newsreaders wrapped lines....
> groups.google.com certain does.
>
> In any case, are you a DOS user or something?
> Real OS's don't require "carriage returns" :).
OS? What OS? Maybe Bill's reading Usenet on a
Smith Corona typewriter, smartypants.
A problem with no CRs is that Google Groups doesn't
insert LFs to break the lines when I follow up a post of
yours, so there's only one quote character at the beginning
of a long line. I was going to chide you about this again
today, but forgot.
Ben
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 09:14:40
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> A problem with no CRs is that Google Groups doesn't
> insert LFs to break the lines when I follow up a post of
> yours, so there's only one quote character at the beginning
> of a long line. I was going to chide you about this again
> today, but forgot.
It's because Dan uses the setting "format=flowed", I think. Turn it
off, Dan! (See, a whole bunch of commas. That's one of the things I
have to keep in mind while writing in English; it uses a lot less
commas than Dutch. Or, maybe, I use a lot of commas.)
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E. Dronkert
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 13:46:43
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> It's because Dan uses the setting "format=flowed", I think. Turn it
> off, Dan! (See, a whole bunch of commas. That's one of the things I
> have to keep in mind while writing in English; it uses a lot less
> commas than Dutch. Or, maybe, I use a lot of commas.)
>
>
Okay.... I shut it off. Perhaps a quote from Velonews is appropriate as a test: "During Wednesday evening's CrossVegas event Kona's Ryan Trebon won on a brand new pair of wheels from FSA, providing a good excuse to look at a few new deeper section carbon rims that debuted at this year's show. Besides FSA, both Easton and Reynolds have new or refined wheels for 2008. Titanium has also been a prominent product at this year's show, could it be that some, more traditionally minded riders are suffering from too much carbon fiber in their diet? We wouldn't go quite that far yet as it seems most of the industry is still gaga over string and glue construction for all types of components. Nonetheless Moots and Ritchey, among others, have been pushing out new products in the once wonder metal, titanium."
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 23:45:04
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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* Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m > a écrit profondement:
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 18:08:26
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>> A problem with no CRs is that Google Groups doesn't
>> insert LFs to break the lines when I follow up a post of
>> yours, so there's only one quote character at the beginning
>> of a long line. I was going to chide you about this again
>> today, but forgot.
>
> It's because Dan uses the setting "format=flowed", I think. Turn it
> off, Dan! (See, a whole bunch of commas. That's one of the things I
> have to keep in mind while writing in English; it uses a lot less
> commas than Dutch. Or, maybe, I use a lot of commas.)
Fortunately for me, my newsreader interprets commas correctly. With Dan's
posts, I can read about half of each line and then have to guess about the
rest. It leads to some interesting conclusions.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 16:55:33
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Sep 27, 7:50 pm, William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Bill C wrote:
> > What's the difference in intent between cutting over and stopping
> > dead, and backing over them? Not much IMO. this should've been assault
> > with a deadly weapon at least. Autos are just as much weapons as
> > firearms. They need to lock up scumbags who intentionally use either
> > to hurt others for a minimum of 5 years before the deabte even begins,
> > and ban plea bargains for those offences.
>
> I agree, the guy is a douche, but they probably can't hit him with anything
> else. What will make him stand up and take notice are the civil suits
> for injury and damages that will start coming in. The misdemeanor charge
> should make it harder for him to claim he was innocently driving along and
> shouldn't be liable for damages. But then, I'm only a dirtbag, not a
> dirtbag lawyer.
>
> --
> Bill Asher
I'm sure we all hope they give him what he deserves. I'm not gonna
hold my breath though.
Bill C
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 16:35:45
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Sep 27, 7:32 pm, Fred Fredburger
<Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos > wrote:
> William Asher wrote:
> > psycholist wrote:
>
> >> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>
> > Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your ass.
>
> Since everything is legal, you've got to do something pretty heinous!
What's the difference in intent between cutting over and stopping
dead, and backing over them? Not much IMO. this should've been assault
with a deadly weapon at least. Autos are just as much weapons as
firearms. They need to lock up scumbags who intentionally use either
to hurt others for a minimum of 5 years before the deabte even begins,
and ban plea bargains for those offences.
Aint gonna happen in either case though.
Just as an aside the NRA has been lobbying for this on firearms for
years.
Bill C
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 15:44:05
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Bill C wrote:
> On Sep 27, 7:32 pm, Fred Fredburger
> <Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
>> William Asher wrote:
>>> psycholist wrote:
>>>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>>> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your ass.
>> Since everything is legal, you've got to do something pretty heinous!
>
> What's the difference in intent between cutting over and stopping
> dead, and backing over them? Not much IMO. this should've been assault
> with a deadly weapon at least. Autos are just as much weapons as
> firearms. They need to lock up scumbags who intentionally use either
> to hurt others for a minimum of 5 years before the deabte even begins,
> and ban plea bargains for those offences.
> Aint gonna happen in either case though.
> Just as an aside the NRA has been lobbying for this on firearms for
> years.
> Bill C
>
You'll get no argument from me on that. I don't see it happening, though.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:50:18
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Bill C wrote:
> What's the difference in intent between cutting over and stopping
> dead, and backing over them? Not much IMO. this should've been assault
> with a deadly weapon at least. Autos are just as much weapons as
> firearms. They need to lock up scumbags who intentionally use either
> to hurt others for a minimum of 5 years before the deabte even begins,
> and ban plea bargains for those offences.
I agree, the guy is a douche, but they probably can't hit him with anything
else. What will make him stand up and take notice are the civil suits
for injury and damages that will start coming in. The misdemeanor charge
should make it harder for him to claim he was innocently driving along and
shouldn't be liable for damages. But then, I'm only a dirtbag, not a
dirtbag lawyer.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 19:30:30
From:
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:47:03 -0700, dupedcyclist@aol.com wrote:
>Driver charged in 16-bike pileup near Libertyville
>By Bob Susnjara
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 17:07:59
From: psycholist
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Misdemeanor, my ass.
--
Bob C.
"Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)
<dupedcyclist@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1190926023.573804.210860@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Driver charged in 16-bike pileup near Libertyville
> By Bob Susnjara
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 22:43:00
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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psycholist wrote:
> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>
Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your ass.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 30 Sep 2007 05:20:50
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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In article <Xns99B89FE99FF84FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote:
> psycholist wrote:
>
> > Misdemeanor, my ass.
> >
>
> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your ass.
Yes, it's a misdemanor.
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Michael Press
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 10:30:27
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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psycholist wrote:
>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
William Asher wrote:
> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your
> ass.
Asking someone to felony your ass might be worse.
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 18:04:49
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Donald Munro wrote:
> psycholist wrote:
>>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>
> William Asher wrote:
>> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your
>> ass.
>
> Asking someone to felony your ass might be worse.
>
It's all a crime against nature.
Speaking of which, I notice the World's booted DiLuca, are now going after
Bettini, Bonds's 756th ball will be branded with an asterisk, and a cholera
epidemic is now starting in Iraq. Is this turning out to be a great
century or what?
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 16:32:20
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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William Asher wrote:
> psycholist wrote:
>
>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>>
>
> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your ass.
>
Since everything is legal, you've got to do something pretty heinous!
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:45:39
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Fred Fredburger wrote:
> William Asher wrote:
>> psycholist wrote:
>>
>>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>>>
>>
>> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your
>> ass.
>>
>
> Since everything is legal, you've got to do something pretty heinous!
You mean heinie-ous right?
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 15:40:50
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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William Asher wrote:
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
>
>> William Asher wrote:
>>> psycholist wrote:
>>>
>>>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>>>>
>>> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your
>>> ass.
>>>
>> Since everything is legal, you've got to do something pretty heinous!
>
> You mean heinie-ous right?
>
Subtlety is not my strong point.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:28:20
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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William Asher wrote:
> psycholist wrote:
>
>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>>
>
> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your ass.
>
I was recently told, by someone reviewing a draft of a paper I'm writing, that I use far too many commas. In this case, a comma is a wonderful thing.
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Date: 27 Sep 2007 23:45:06
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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Dan Connelly wrote:
> William Asher wrote:
>> psycholist wrote:
>>
>>> Misdemeanor, my ass.
>>>
>>
>> Around here, it's a really bad idea to ask people to misdemeanor your
>> ass.
>>
>
> I was recently told, by someone reviewing a draft of a paper I'm
> writing, that I use far too many commas. In this case, a comma is a
> wonderful thing.
In your case I would rather you use carriage returns and line feeds.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 28 Sep 2007 01:26:45
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Thomas Lynch charged in 16-bike pileup near Chicago
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William Asher wrote:
> Dan Connelly wrote:
>> I was recently told, by someone reviewing a draft of a paper I'm
>> writing, that I use far too many commas. In this case, a comma is a
>> wonderful thing.
>
> In your case I would rather you use carriage returns and line feeds.
>
Gee, I thought all modern newsreaders wrapped lines....
groups.google.com certain does.
In any case, are you a DOS user or something?
Real OS's don't require "carriage returns" :).
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