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Date: 28 May 2007 13:15:04
From: Sandy
Subject: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
Pat McQuaid
"Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
l'inverse."
Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
--
Sandy
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"Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of non-knowledge."
- Edward O. Wilson
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Date: 28 May 2007 23:00:22
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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in message <465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr >, Sandy
('leurre@frree.fr') wrote:
> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
>
> Pat McQuaid
> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
> l'inverse."
>
> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
My French is less than perfect, I confess. But, acknowledging Virenque and
l'affaire Festina, French cycling has not been producing sufficient
panache and puissance through the heydey of le dopage to be considered a
serious player in the Doped Games. I think you have to accept that France
has never taken doping sufficiently seriously. While there may have been
the occasional amateur tinkerer in the peleton Francais, for serious and
creative doping you need to look to northern Europe and its diaspora.
Those ruthlessly efficient sausage-eating boche, for example, have clearly
had more than just blut in their blutwurst, while Tin-Tin and Maigret
studiously avoided investigating le pot belge. And when it comes to
Perfidious Albion - that nation of chemists' shop keepers - and her
colonial cousins... these are the champions du dopage. Can it be
coincidence that, since the rise of EPO, every single winner of le Tour
has come from the wrong side of the Rhine or of the sea?
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
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Date: 29 May 2007 02:04:11
From: Tom Grosman
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk > a écrit dans le message de news:
m00si4-7qq.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
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Date: 28 May 2007 21:19:00
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Sandy schreef:
> Pat McQuaid
> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
> l'inverse."
That is just incredible. Is there an impeachment procedure for the
president of the UCI?
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 28 May 2007 21:22:03
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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"Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote in message
news:465b2b25$0$325$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Sandy schreef:
>> Pat McQuaid
>> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
>> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
>> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
>> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
>> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
>> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
>> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
>> l'inverse."
>
> That is just incredible. Is there an impeachment procedure for the
> president of the UCI?
You mean because he refused to include Holland in the same culture as
Belgium, France, Italy and Spain?
Benjo
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Date: 28 May 2007 15:46:00
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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"Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr > wrote in message
news:465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
>
> Pat McQuaid
> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
> l'inverse."
>
> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
Perhaps McQuaid could put up an annual Bjarne Riis-Jan Ullrich award for the
rider who has shown to be the best representative of the Anglo-Saxon
culture.
Benjo
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Date: 28 May 2007 19:52:10
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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benjo maso a écrit :
> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
> news:465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>
>> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
>>
>> Pat McQuaid
>> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
>> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
>> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
>> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
>> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
>> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
>> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
>> l'inverse."
>>
>> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
>>
>
>
> Perhaps McQuaid could put up an annual Bjarne Riis-Jan Ullrich award for the
> rider who has shown to be the best representative of the Anglo-Saxon
> culture.
>
> Benjo
>
>
>
Are you excluding Millar due to the Malta connection ? :-)
Sandy
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Date: 28 May 2007 21:22:59
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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"Sandy" <leurrre@free.fr > wrote in message
news:465b16ca$0$7532$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> benjo maso a écrit :
>> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
>> news:465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>>
>>> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
>>>
>>> Pat McQuaid
>>> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
>>> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
>>> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
>>> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
>>> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
>>> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait
>>> les Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne
>>> totalement à l'inverse."
>>>
>>> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
>>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps McQuaid could put up an annual Bjarne Riis-Jan Ullrich award for
>> the rider who has shown to be the best representative of the Anglo-Saxon
>> culture.
>>
>> Benjo
>>
>>
> Are you excluding Millar due to the Malta connection ? :-)
As soon as Millar has won the Tour, his name will be included.
Benjo
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Date: 28 May 2007 20:13:51
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Sandy wrote:
> Are you excluding Millar due to the Malta connection ? :-)
Perhaps the Saxons thought Scotland was too cold and the Scots too
unwashed and uncouth to be worth invading (and anyway the Scottish chicks
weren't hot enough to make ravishing them worth all the cold and the
uncivilized surroundings).
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Date: 28 May 2007 20:03:26
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Sandy wrote:
>> Are you excluding Millar due to the Malta connection ? :-)
>
> Perhaps the Saxons thought Scotland was too cold and the Scots too
> unwashed and uncouth to be worth invading (and anyway the Scottish chicks
> weren't hot enough to make ravishing them worth all the cold and the
> uncivilized surroundings).
Is Munro a Sassenach then??
I have known several very lovely Glaswegian & toochter ladies
:-)))
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Date: 29 May 2007 10:55:37
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Donald Munro wrote:
>> Perhaps the Saxons thought Scotland was too cold and the Scots too
>> unwashed and uncouth to be worth invading (and anyway the Scottish chicks
>> weren't hot enough to make ravishing them worth all the cold and the
>> uncivilized surroundings).
Dan Gregory wrote:
> Is Munro a Sassenach then??
If being Scottish means eating haggis, then definitely. Anyone who eats
haggis or andoulette can't be civilized.
> I have known several very lovely Glaswegian & toochter ladies
> :-)))
Been visiting the Gorbals have we ? :-)
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Date: 29 May 2007 10:29:56
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Donald Munro wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Perhaps the Saxons thought Scotland was too cold and the Scots too
>>> unwashed and uncouth to be worth invading (and anyway the Scottish chicks
>>> weren't hot enough to make ravishing them worth all the cold and the
>>> uncivilized surroundings).
>
> Dan Gregory wrote:
>> Is Munro a Sassenach then??
>
> If being Scottish means eating haggis, then definitely. Anyone who eats
> haggis or andoulette can't be civilized.
>
>> I have known several very lovely Glaswegian & toochter ladies
>> :-)))
>
> Been visiting the Gorbals have we ? :-)
>
>
>
Grew up on Weir Street big man ...
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Date: 28 May 2007 23:03:28
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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in message <5c0nacF2uajhlU1@mid.individual.net >, Dan Gregory
('dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk') wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
>> Sandy wrote:
>>> Are you excluding Millar due to the Malta connection ? :-)
>>
>> Perhaps the Saxons thought Scotland was too cold and the Scots too
>> unwashed and uncouth to be worth invading (and anyway the Scottish
>> chicks weren't hot enough to make ravishing them worth all the cold and
>> the uncivilized surroundings).
> Is Munro a Sassenach then??
> I have known several very lovely Glaswegian & toochter ladies
> :-)))
That's 'teuchter' tae ye, laddie; and mind that ye mind it.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
;; knowledge increaseth sorrow.." - Ecclesiastes 1:18
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Date: 28 May 2007 18:52:32
From:
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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"benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl > a écrit dans le message de news:
5c04omF2ugdl9U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
> news:465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
>>
>> Pat McQuaid
>> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
>> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
>> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
>> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
>> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
>> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
>> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
>> l'inverse."
>>
>> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
>
>
> Perhaps McQuaid could put up an annual Bjarne Riis-Jan Ullrich award for
> the rider who has shown to be the best representative of the Anglo-Saxon
> culture.
>
> Benjo
>
Why an annual award?
With TVM, Jesper Skibby, Basso, CSC , David Millar, Armstrong, Hamilton,
Landis aso
I suggest one per month.
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Date: 28 May 2007 19:55:41
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Montesquiou a écrit :
> "benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 5c04omF2ugdl9U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
>> news:465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>>
>>> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
>>>
>>> Pat McQuaid
>>> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
>>> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
>>> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
>>> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
>>> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
>>> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
>>> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
>>> l'inverse."
>>>
>>> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
>>>
>> Perhaps McQuaid could put up an annual Bjarne Riis-Jan Ullrich award for
>> the rider who has shown to be the best representative of the Anglo-Saxon
>> culture.
>>
>> Benjo
>>
>>
> Why an annual award?
>
> With TVM, Jesper Skibby, Basso, CSC , David Millar, Armstrong, Hamilton,
> Landis aso
> I suggest one per month.
>
>
>
And you include Millar due to the Malta connection ?
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Date: 29 May 2007 01:40:32
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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In article <465b179c$0$7532$426a74cc@news.free.fr >,
Sandy <leurrre@free.fr > wrote:
> Montesquiou a écrit :
> > "benjo maso" <benjo.maso@chello.nl> a écrit dans le message de news:
> > 5c04omF2ugdl9U1@mid.individual.net...
> >
> >> "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote in message
> >> news:465ab9b8$0$28549$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> >>
> >>> ... unless they were prepared in an English pub.
> >>>
> >>> Pat McQuaid
> >>> "Il existe aujourd'hui un schisme entre deux cultures. La culture
> >>> anglo-saxonne et ce que j'appellerais la culture mafieuse de l'Europe
> >>> occidentale (Belgique, France, Italie, Espagne, ndlr). Cette culture de
> >>> l'Europe occidentale, d'une certaine manière, je ne dirais pas qu'elle
> >>> excuse le dopage mais par la façon qu'ils ont d'aborder la vie, ils
> >>> acceptent certaines pratiques. La culture anglo-saxonne qui inclurait les
> >>> Pays-Bas, l'Allemagne, l'Angleterre, le Danemark fonctionne totalement à
> >>> l'inverse."
> >>>
> >>> Just let's take a look at his model countries .....
> >>>
> >> Perhaps McQuaid could put up an annual Bjarne Riis-Jan Ullrich award for
> >> the rider who has shown to be the best representative of the Anglo-Saxon
> >> culture.
> >>
> >> Benjo
> >>
> >>
> > Why an annual award?
> >
> > With TVM, Jesper Skibby, Basso, CSC , David Millar, Armstrong, Hamilton,
> > Landis aso
> > I suggest one per month.
> >
> >
> >
> And you include Millar due to the Malta connection ?
Oh you haters, you people who don't believe in cycling.
Millar is clean now! He's got a line and everything! Can't you just
leave poor David alone?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 29 May 2007 10:28:49
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: Time for McQuaid to eat his words ...
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> Millar is clean now! He's got a line and everything! Can't you just
> leave poor David alone?
>
and he's broke ....
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