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Date: 24 Jul 2007 21:03:40
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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Since there is now one up for grabs due to the imminent demise of
Astana, would you think Tinkoff Worthy??
And poor old Vino, back in the Land of the Kazakhs in Azerbaijan the
signs are already going up "We got the Rope and the Tree, Just bring
that Wanker Vinokourov"
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Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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Date: 25 Jul 2007 17:41:49
From: kaiser
Subject: Re: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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On Jul 24, 5:49 pm, RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:08:09 +0200, Davey Crockett
>
>
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> <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> >RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
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> >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:03:40 +0200, Davey Crockett
> >> <d4Qaveycrock...@azurservers.com> wrote:
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> >>>Since there is now one up for grabs due to the imminent demise of
> >>>Astana, would you think Tinkoff Worthy??
>
> >> What Pro Tour? The Pro Tour presently known in professional cycling is a project
> >> of the UCI. The UCI is a skateboard and rollerblade stunt league. It has nothing
> >> to do with cycling as of about three months from now.
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> >> It's dead, just doesn't know it yet.
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> >You hit the Nail in the Head there, Ron
>
> >I didn't know about the Rival Pro-Tour when I made the post you
> >responded to though
>
> I didn't either. But I'm thinking most of the season will be over by then and I
> am not the only one who can see how badly UCI represents the riders, the sport,
> the promoters and sponsors. EVERY faction within the game is ill-served by UCI
> and that just isn't viable. I mean if you want to stay in power you've got to be
> doing somebody somewhere something that they welcome and I just don't see a
> constituency for them anymore.
>
> Who would cry if they lost their power over professional cycling?
>
> They'll probably end up with amateur cycling and maybe some of the track stuff.
> They might even be no worse at it than other amateur sanctioning bodies. But as
> a professional league they are hopeless and should go away before the sport is
> wrecked any worse.
>
> Ron
Funny, but the UCI still has the Mercury team salary guarantee on
deposit in Switzerland. The Wordin fiasco. They refuse to pay it out
to the riders until the riders themselves PROVE they have not been
paid. How do you prove you never got something? What about making
Wordin prove that he paid them? Fuck the UCI. Lying theiving bastards.
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Date: 26 Jul 2007 08:54:57
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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kaiser wrote:
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> Funny, but the UCI still has the Mercury team salary guarantee on
> deposit in Switzerland. The Wordin fiasco. They refuse to pay it out
> to the riders until the riders themselves PROVE they have not been
> paid. How do you prove you never got something?
>
Bank statements?
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 18:41:44
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:03:40 +0200, Davey Crockett
<d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com > wrote:
>Since there is now one up for grabs due to the imminent demise of
>Astana, would you think Tinkoff Worthy??
What Pro Tour? The Pro Tour presently known in professional cycling is a project
of the UCI. The UCI is a skateboard and rollerblade stunt league. It has nothing
to do with cycling as of about three months from now.
It's dead, just doesn't know it yet.
Ron
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Date: 25 Jul 2007 01:08:09
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > writes:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:03:40 +0200, Davey Crockett
> <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
>>Since there is now one up for grabs due to the imminent demise of
>>Astana, would you think Tinkoff Worthy??
>
> What Pro Tour? The Pro Tour presently known in professional cycling is a project
> of the UCI. The UCI is a skateboard and rollerblade stunt league. It has nothing
> to do with cycling as of about three months from now.
>
> It's dead, just doesn't know it yet.
>
You hit the Nail in the Head there, Ron
I didn't know about the Rival Pro-Tour when I made the post you
responded to though
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Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 20:49:29
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:08:09 +0200, Davey Crockett
<d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com > wrote:
>RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:03:40 +0200, Davey Crockett
>> <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Since there is now one up for grabs due to the imminent demise of
>>>Astana, would you think Tinkoff Worthy??
>>
>> What Pro Tour? The Pro Tour presently known in professional cycling is a project
>> of the UCI. The UCI is a skateboard and rollerblade stunt league. It has nothing
>> to do with cycling as of about three months from now.
>>
>> It's dead, just doesn't know it yet.
>>
>
>You hit the Nail in the Head there, Ron
>
>I didn't know about the Rival Pro-Tour when I made the post you
>responded to though
I didn't either. But I'm thinking most of the season will be over by then and I
am not the only one who can see how badly UCI represents the riders, the sport,
the promoters and sponsors. EVERY faction within the game is ill-served by UCI
and that just isn't viable. I mean if you want to stay in power you've got to be
doing somebody somewhere something that they welcome and I just don't see a
constituency for them anymore.
Who would cry if they lost their power over professional cycling?
They'll probably end up with amateur cycling and maybe some of the track stuff.
They might even be no worse at it than other amateur sanctioning bodies. But as
a professional league they are hopeless and should go away before the sport is
wrecked any worse.
Ron
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 21:49:47
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: Tinkoff to Get Pro Tour Licence?
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Dans le message de news:87bqe14oab.fsf@azurservers.com,
Davey Crockett <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com > a réfléchi, et puis a
déclaré :
> Since there is now one up for grabs due to the imminent demise of
> Astana, would you think Tinkoff Worthy??
>
> And poor old Vino, back in the Land of the Kazakhs in Azerbaijan the
> signs are already going up "We got the Rope and the Tree, Just bring
> that Wanker Vinokourov"
Political geography remedial courses are available.
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