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Date: 30 Apr 2007 16:59:56
From: Mark VandenBerghe
Subject: Today's Winner
Levi Leipheimer






 
Date: 01 May 2007 10:12:10
From:
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On Apr 30, 7:42 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
> >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
>
> The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
> Americans who were blood doping.

Of course those who actually knew about it realized that it was
perfectly legal at that time.



  
Date: 01 May 2007 20:20:06
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
In article <1178039530.346445.149350@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
cyclintom@gmail.com wrote:

> On Apr 30, 7:42 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
> > >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
> >
> > The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
> > Americans who were blood doping.
>
> Of course those who actually knew about it realized that it was
> perfectly legal at that time.

Oh yes: it clearly was not banned until after that. But part of the joke
is that the current implications and insinuations have gone so far that
acknowledged issues from the past might start to be a problem.

Of course, the joke would have worked much better if I knew the
difference between Grewal and Ekimov.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
Date: 30 Apr 2007 23:39:43
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On Apr 30, 7:42 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
> >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
>
> The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
> Americans who were blood doping.

It's nitpicking on these procedural details that is
hampering our efforts to clean up the sport.

Sincerely,
Dick Pound



  
Date: 01 May 2007 05:44:12
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On 30 Apr 2007 23:39:43 -0700, "bjw@mambo.ucolick.org"
<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote:

>On Apr 30, 7:42 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
>> >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
>>
>> The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
>> Americans who were blood doping.
>
>It's nitpicking on these procedural details that is
>hampering our efforts to clean up the sport.
>
>Sincerely,
>Dick Pound

POTM

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Date: 30 Apr 2007 14:03:22
From: need more sun
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On Apr 30, 7:23 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Apr 30, 10:59 am, "Mark VandenBerghe"
>
> <markvandenber...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Levi Leipheimer
>
> Within the confines of his team, yes... he's the big winner. In the
> bigger picture, he hasn't really won anything except the right to be
> the designated leader of the team while getting his butt kicked by
> Vino in July.

Or is he next???



  
Date: 01 May 2007 02:05:03
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
In article <1177967002.245516.59610@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
need more sun <recbikegroup@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:

> On Apr 30, 7:23 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 30, 10:59 am, "Mark VandenBerghe"
> >
> > <markvandenber...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > Levi Leipheimer
> >
> > Within the confines of his team, yes... he's the big winner. In the
> > bigger picture, he hasn't really won anything except the right to be
> > the designated leader of the team while getting his butt kicked by
> > Vino in July.
>
> Or is he next???

I'm telling you people: the real race at the TdF this year is the race
to be allowed to start!

At present, I think the likely start list will be all of Credit
Agricole, Chris Horner, and Rujano.

Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


   
Date: 30 Apr 2007 22:42:37
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:


>Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
>to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,

The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
Americans who were blood doping.
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Date: 01 May 2007 13:19:37
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
In article <l7ad3318g36bf6hj77es5pqt3jjn9ulsku@4ax.com >,
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
> >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
>
> The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
> Americans who were blood doping.

Dumbass=me. I got him confused with Alexi Grewal, who is of course as
Russian as the Russian Tea Room.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


     
Date: 01 May 2007 13:31:48
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On Tue, 01 May 2007 13:19:37 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:

>In article <l7ad3318g36bf6hj77es5pqt3jjn9ulsku@4ax.com>,
> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
>> >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
>>
>> The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
>> Americans who were blood doping.
>
>Dumbass=me. I got him confused with Alexi Grewal, who is of course as
>Russian as the Russian Tea Room.

Well, Grewal was on drugs (from herbal medecine supposedly) in the
lead-in to the Olympics, not blood doping. As I recall, it was some
of the track riders on the US team that did the blood doping.
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Date: 01 May 2007 20:18:50
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
In article <jaue3313ie9av0ft9612me95eora8tbu0t@4ax.com >,
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 May 2007 13:19:37 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <l7ad3318g36bf6hj77es5pqt3jjn9ulsku@4ax.com>,
> > John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 01 May 2007 02:05:03 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >Ekimov will come out of retirement to race, only to be disqualified due
> >> >to being implicated in the 1984 Olympic blood doping,
> >>
> >> The Russians weren't at the 84 Olympics, and at that event it was some
> >> Americans who were blood doping.
> >
> >Dumbass=me. I got him confused with Alexi Grewal, who is of course as
> >Russian as the Russian Tea Room.
>
> Well, Grewal was on drugs (from herbal medecine supposedly) in the
> lead-in to the Olympics, not blood doping. As I recall, it was some
> of the track riders on the US team that did the blood doping.

Oh, okay. Let's not talk about where that leaves me, then.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
Date: 30 Apr 2007 11:23:50
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Today's Winner
On Apr 30, 10:59 am, "Mark VandenBerghe"
<markvandenber...@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
> Levi Leipheimer

Within the confines of his team, yes... he's the big winner. In the
bigger picture, he hasn't really won anything except the right to be
the designated leader of the team while getting his butt kicked by
Vino in July.