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Date: 05 May 2007 11:27:20
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Top four prediction: Giro
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1. Di Luca
2. Cunego
3. Savoldelli
4. Simoni
What do you think?
-Bob
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Date: 08 May 2007 08:01:30
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Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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On May 7, 10:36 am, Andre <ANDREJANSSE...@YAHOO.COM > wrote:
> On May 6, 5:19 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
> wrote:
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> > In article <cbar335tj9sjrkcocphgk9ff6ja0q0e...@4ax.com>,
> > usenetrem...@jt10000.com says...
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> > > On Sun, 6 May 2007 17:14:46 +1000, jcjordan
> > > <jcjordan.2q5...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
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> > > >Dont think that Di Luca has the
> > > >TT and climbing skills to do better then top 5.
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> > > Hahaha.
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> > Agree!
>
> > DiLuca is in the perfect place right now.
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> > -Bob
>
> Yaroslav Popovych
I'm torn between him and Cunego. Simoni is NOT going to win. DeLuca
has a good chance.
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Date: 07 May 2007 10:36:02
From: Andre
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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On May 6, 5:19 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net >
wrote:
> In article <cbar335tj9sjrkcocphgk9ff6ja0q0e...@4ax.com>,
> usenetrem...@jt10000.com says...
>
> > On Sun, 6 May 2007 17:14:46 +1000, jcjordan
> > <jcjordan.2q5...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> > >Dont think that Di Luca has the
> > >TT and climbing skills to do better then top 5.
>
> > Hahaha.
>
> Agree!
>
> DiLuca is in the perfect place right now.
>
> -Bob
Yaroslav Popovych
Andre
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Date: 06 May 2007 14:38:41
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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On May 5, 11:05 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <MPG.20a66c5b4dd44dee989...@news.giganews.com>,
> Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net> wrote:
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> > 1. Di Luca
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> > 2. Cunego
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> > 3. Savoldelli
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> > 4. Simoni
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> > What do you think?
>
> I'm impressed you spelled all of their names correctly.
>
> I'm going to pick David Millar for the win, because I believe that GT
> performance this year will largely come down to surviving the WADA
> gauntlet, and Millar is the only rider who we know for sure is clean.
>
> He's where I draw the line,
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
So, how do you know he's clean? 'Cause he says so? Hell, lot's of
riders have told us they're clean and come up busted, and others have
told us they were clean, never tested positive, and yet there are
plenty of folks prepared to convict on mere suspicion.
The ONE thing in Millar's favor is that until he tests positive, no
one suspects him. That doesn't necessarily mean he's clean.
Having said that, I think he's clean, too. I just don't buy your
decleration that we KNOW he's clean.
S.
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Date: 07 May 2007 06:25:27
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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In article <1178487521.542428.126310@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On May 5, 11:05 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > In article <MPG.20a66c5b4dd44dee989...@news.giganews.com>,
> > Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Di Luca
> >
> > > 2. Cunego
> >
> > > 3. Savoldelli
> >
> > > 4. Simoni
> >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > I'm impressed you spelled all of their names correctly.
> >
> > I'm going to pick David Millar for the win, because I believe that GT
> > performance this year will largely come down to surviving the WADA
> > gauntlet, and Millar is the only rider who we know for sure is clean.
> >
> > He's where I draw the line,
> So, how do you know he's clean? 'Cause he says so? Hell, lot's of
> riders have told us they're clean and come up busted, and others have
> told us they were clean, never tested positive, and yet there are
> plenty of folks prepared to convict on mere suspicion.
>
> The ONE thing in Millar's favor is that until he tests positive, no
> one suspects him. That doesn't necessarily mean he's clean.
>
> Having said that, I think he's clean, too. I just don't buy your
> decleration that we KNOW he's clean.
Sorry, Scott, you've come in medeas res to this joke, so I don't blame
you for not getting it.
After his comeback, he made some statements about his feelings on the
subject of doping that might have been even more noble and justified if
he hadn't just been busted for EPO.
Anyway, Millar did his comeback TdF in 2006, and came in 17th in the
prologue. This thin gruel led me to say this:
Also, with Brian Lafferty's help, we will institute the "Millar Line."
Anyone who beats David Millar in a flat TT (barring force majeur) is
clearly doping.
ca n'est pas naturellement,
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/9224
2be3e43b0fbd/1725bd7186e5a16b?lnk=gst&q=%22millar+line%22&rnum=61#1725bd7
186e5a16b
Since after all, anyone who could beat a now-clean Millar in the event
he specialized in (prologues) must be cheating...
To my immense enjoyment, the "Millar Line" has become an rbr trope for
various things to do with racing and doping, including unusually good
results, general mockery of the recovering-doper aesthetic (10/10 for
not cheating, minus several million for self-righteous 'tude about
something you were doing not that long ago...), the seemingly random
nature of actual WADA tests and gym-teacher accusations, and so forth.
But yes, we have no idea if David is clean, but he seems so sincere
about his current reformed status that it really deserves a good poke
every so often.
Also, since I like to drink, I have a special affinity for a rider whose
slogan is "It's Millar Time!"
LIVEDRUNK,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 06 May 2007 17:14:46
From: jcjordan
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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Hell and High Water Wrote:
> 1. Di Luc
>
> 2. Cuneg
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> 3. Savoldell
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> 4. Simon
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>
> What do you think
>
>
> -Bob
I reckon we are going to have a great battle between Cunego an
Savoldelli, cant say which will win. Dont think that Di Luca has th
TT and climbing skills to do better then top 5.
I also cant see Savoldelli do better then top 5 either, to many reall
big climbs without the decents that he is so good at
--
jcjorda
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Date: 06 May 2007 06:09:57
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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On Sun, 6 May 2007 17:14:46 +1000, jcjordan
<jcjordan.2q5hin@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:
>Dont think that Di Luca has the
>TT and climbing skills to do better then top 5.
Hahaha.
--
JT
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Date: 06 May 2007 16:19:43
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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In article <cbar335tj9sjrkcocphgk9ff6ja0q0e0mi@4ax.com >,
usenetremove@jt10000.com says...
> On Sun, 6 May 2007 17:14:46 +1000, jcjordan
> <jcjordan.2q5hin@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> >Dont think that Di Luca has the
> >TT and climbing skills to do better then top 5.
>
> Hahaha.
Agree!
DiLuca is in the perfect place right now.
-Bob
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Date: 06 May 2007 11:08:35
From: Alexander Lackner
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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> I reckon we are going to have a great battle between Cunego and
> Savoldelli, cant say which will win. Dont think that Di Luca has the
> TT and climbing skills to do better then top 5.
>
> I also cant see Savoldelli do better then top 5 either, to many really
> big climbs without the decents that he is so good at.
>
>
> --
> jcjordan
assuming the poster meant "Simoni" instead of "Savoldelli" in the first
paragraph (or he's heavily schizophrenic), I endorse the assessment 100%. To
lower the candyass factor however, I'll commit to a Cunego victory.
Alexander
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Date: 07 May 2007 09:29:17
From: jcjordan
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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Alexander Lackner Wrote:
> [color=blue]
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> assuming the poster meant "Simoni" instead of "Savoldelli" in th
> first
> paragraph (or he's heavily schizophrenic), I endorse the assessmen
> 100%. To
> lower the candyass factor however, I'll commit to a Cunego victory.
>
> Alexander
Thanks. Yes I did mean Simoni. I really should not try and writ
posts while looking after a 6 month child at the same tim
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jcjordan
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Date: 07 May 2007 10:03:14
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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In article <jcjordan.2q6qgz@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com >,
jcjordan <jcjordan.2q6qgz@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:
> Alexander Lackner Wrote:
> > [color=blue]
> >
> >
> >
> > assuming the poster meant "Simoni" instead of "Savoldelli" in the
> > first
> > paragraph (or he's heavily schizophrenic), I endorse the assessment
> > 100%. To
> > lower the candyass factor however, I'll commit to a Cunego victory.
> >
> > Alexander
> Thanks. Yes I did mean Simoni. I really should not try and write
> posts while looking after a 6 month child at the same time
Really. Concentrate on posting. How much trouble can the child get
into anyway?
--
Michael Press
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Date: 05 May 2007 22:11:15
From: Bret
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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On May 5, 10:27 am, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net >
wrote:
> 1. Di Luca
>
> 2. Cunego
>
> 3. Savoldelli
>
> 4. Simoni
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Bob
Two predictions:
Simoni will win.
You will ask us if Di Luca can possibly make up his ? minute time gap.
Bret
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Date: 06 May 2007 16:19:03
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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In article <1178428275.191015.208420@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
bret.wade@gmail.com says...
> On May 5, 10:27 am, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
> wrote:
> > 1. Di Luca
> >
> > 2. Cunego
> >
> > 3. Savoldelli
> >
> > 4. Simoni
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > -Bob
>
> Two predictions:
>
> Simoni will win.
>
> You will ask us if Di Luca can possibly make up his ? minute time gap.
Not sure about the first one, but I can all but guarantee the second...
;-)
-Bob
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Date: 06 May 2007 05:05:50
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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In article <MPG.20a66c5b4dd44dee989a1b@news.giganews.com >,
Hell and High Water <tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net > wrote:
> 1. Di Luca
>
> 2. Cunego
>
> 3. Savoldelli
>
> 4. Simoni
>
>
>
>
> What do you think?
I'm impressed you spelled all of their names correctly.
I'm going to pick David Millar for the win, because I believe that GT
performance this year will largely come down to surviving the WADA
gauntlet, and Millar is the only rider who we know for sure is clean.
He's where I draw the line,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 06 May 2007 16:18:13
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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In article <rcousine-7F6B2E.22054905052007@news.telus.net >,
rcousine@sfu.ca says...
> In article <MPG.20a66c5b4dd44dee989a1b@news.giganews.com>,
> Hell and High Water <tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > 1. Di Luca
> >
> > 2. Cunego
> >
> > 3. Savoldelli
> >
> > 4. Simoni
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I'm impressed you spelled all of their names correctly.
Why, thank you.
I used the Inner-tubes to look 'em up.
-Bob
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Date: 05 May 2007 18:14:05
From:
Subject: Re: Top four prediction: Giro
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On May 5, 12:27 pm, Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net >
wrote:
> 1. Di Luca
>
> 2. Cunego
>
> 3. Savoldelli
>
> 4. Simoni
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Bob
1. Cunego
2. Di Luca
3. Popo
7. Simoni
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