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Date: 09 Jul 2007 18:39:38
From: Andrew Price
Subject: Tour de France on plain water ...
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Or "Le Tour de France à l'eau claire"
For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Prébois, freelance
sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
professionals.
His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
prohibited substances.
For those who speak French, there is an interview with him here, and a
video
<http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2670h_tdfpropre >
and a write-up in Le Monde here:
<http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-676968,36-931951@51-932155,0.html >
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 22:56:32
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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On Jul 10, 12:09 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, you mean like touring without the panniers. What's the point of
> > that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
> > on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
> > get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
> > Channel.
>
> Bingo. This is the stupidest experiment I've heard of this week, but
> it's being perpetrated by the cleverest journalist I've heard of all
> year.
Hmmm. I wonder if LiveDRUNK is looking for a traveling (falling down
_is_ technically traveling) correspondent. Free Duvel and Taddy
Porter!
I can just imagine the following morning's conversation with my
editor...
"RICO?!"
"...stop shouting please..."
"WHAT'S WRONG?!"
"...I have a hell of a hangover..."
"EXCELLENT WORK!"
"blooorrrpppparrgghh - whew"
That's a job I could live with.
R
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 06:23:19
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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In article <1184046992.125093.78190@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com >,
RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 10, 12:09 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, you mean like touring without the panniers. What's the point of
> > > that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
> > > on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
> > > get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
> > > Channel.
> >
> > Bingo. This is the stupidest experiment I've heard of this week, but
> > it's being perpetrated by the cleverest journalist I've heard of all
> > year.
>
> Hmmm. I wonder if LiveDRUNK is looking for a traveling (falling down
> _is_ technically traveling) correspondent. Free Duvel and Taddy
> Porter!
LIVEDRUNK (you can't spell it, so you're not hired) is hoping to become
a traveling correspondent in about three weeks.
> I can just imagine the following morning's conversation with my
> editor...
> "RICO?!"
> "...stop shouting please..."
> "WHAT'S WRONG?!"
> "...I have a hell of a hangover..."
> "EXCELLENT WORK!"
> "blooorrrpppparrgghh - whew"
>
> That's a job I could live with.
Me too! My current employer frowns on drunkenness at work.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 03:01:00
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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"Andrew Price" <ajprice@free.fr > wrote in message
news:f3p4931ih424fbssp40b2jm5dl9gf9rite@4ax.com...
> Or "Le Tour de France à l'eau claire"
>
> For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Prébois, freelance
> sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
> newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
> the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
> professionals.
>
> His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> prohibited substances.
>
> For those who speak French, there is an interview with him here, and a
> video
>
> <http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2670h_tdfpropre>
>
> and a write-up in Le Monde here:
>
> <http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-676968,36-931951@51-932155,0.html>
Not to put too fine a point on it but one of those Soccer stars who was
recovering from cancer did that in 2005.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 11:46:43
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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On Jul 9, 1:31 pm, "Phil Holman" <piholmanc@yourservice > wrote:
> "Andrew Price" <ajpr...@free.fr> wrote in message
>
> news:f3p4931ih424fbssp40b2jm5dl9gf9rite@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Or "Le Tour de France =E0 l'eau claire"
>
> > For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Pr=E9bois, freelance
> > sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
> > newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
> > the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
> > professionals.
>
> > His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> > prohibited substances.
>
> > For those who speak French, there is an interview with him here, and a
> > video
>
> > <http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2670h_tdfpropre>
>
> > and a write-up in Le Monde here:
>
> > <http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-676968,36-931951@51-932155,.=
.=2E >
>
> And to prove there are no prohibited substances, he'll be tested every
> day.....right.
>
> I think we should have a lottery and estimate his average speed. Here's
> my estimate, 16mph.
>
> Phil H- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't think it'll be even that high with noone to draft with. Maybe
he's gonna motorpace when noone is watching.
Bill C
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 10:41:54
From:
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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On Jul 9, 9:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com > wrote:
> Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point of
> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
> Channel.
>
He's got a full medical scientific team following him (his dad in a
deux-chevaux), monitoring the salt content of his jersey to prove he
actually gets a sweat on.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 20:31:46
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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benn.trovato@hotmail.com writes:
> On Jul 9, 9:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point of
>> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
>> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
>> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
>> Channel.
>>
>
> He's got a full medical scientific team following him (his dad in a
> deux-chevaux), monitoring the salt content of his jersey to prove he
> actually gets a sweat on.
I'd be surprised if the 2CV makes it up some of the climbs ;)
--
Davey
-
Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 01:35:35
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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> I'd be surprised if the 2CV makes it up some of the climbs ;)
>
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What would be the problem, he has a triple?
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 20:07:09
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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"Davey Crockett" <d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com > wrote in message
news:874pkdig31.fsf@azurservers.com...
> benn.trovato@hotmail.com writes:
>
>> On Jul 9, 9:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point of
>>> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
>>> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
>>> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
>>> Channel.
>>>
>>
>> He's got a full medical scientific team following him (his dad in a
>> deux-chevaux), monitoring the salt content of his jersey to prove he
>> actually gets a sweat on.
>
> I'd be surprised if the 2CV makes it up some of the climbs ;)
>
That's when they go up the hills in reverse.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 20:40:06
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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in message <874pkdig31.fsf@azurservers.com >, Davey Crockett
('d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com') wrote:
> benn.trovato@hotmail.com writes:
>
>> On Jul 9, 9:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point of
>>> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
>>> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
>>> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
>>> Channel.
>>
>> He's got a full medical scientific team following him (his dad in a
>> deux-chevaux), monitoring the salt content of his jersey to prove he
>> actually gets a sweat on.
>
> I'd be surprised if the 2CV makes it up some of the climbs ;)
You haven't driven a tin snail, then. The world's most underrated sportscar
is also the world's most underrated all terrain vehicle - I've taken 'em
places you could not take a land rover.
Remember, climbing is all about power to weight (and, at the limit,
traction). A deux chevaux doesn't have much power, but it has a very
respectable power to weight ratio (which is also why it makes such a good
sportscar).
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; I'll have a proper rant later, when I get the time.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 13:33:07
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk > wrote in message
news:mhfam4-2t7.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> in message <874pkdig31.fsf@azurservers.com>, Davey Crockett
> ('d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com') wrote:
>
>> benn.trovato@hotmail.com writes:
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 9:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point
>>>> of
>>>> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the
>>>> bike
>>>> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you
>>>> can
>>>> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
>>>> Channel.
>>>
>>> He's got a full medical scientific team following him (his dad in a
>>> deux-chevaux), monitoring the salt content of his jersey to prove he
>>> actually gets a sweat on.
>>
>> I'd be surprised if the 2CV makes it up some of the climbs ;)
>
> You haven't driven a tin snail, then. The world's most underrated
> sportscar
> is also the world's most underrated all terrain vehicle - I've taken
> 'em
> places you could not take a land rover.
>
> Remember, climbing is all about power to weight (and, at the limit,
> traction). A deux chevaux doesn't have much power, but it has a very
> respectable power to weight ratio (which is also why it makes such a
> good
> sportscar).
>
Do they still have the horizontally opposed twin cyclinder, aircooled
engine with the push/pull gear shift?
Phil H
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 10:15:39
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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in message <z-KdnVSoLJsQBg_bnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@comcast.com >, Phil Holman
('piholmanc@yourservice') wrote:
>
> "Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:mhfam4-2t7.ln1@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
>> in message <874pkdig31.fsf@azurservers.com>, Davey Crockett
>> ('d4Qaveycrockett@azurservers.com') wrote:
>>
>>> benn.trovato@hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 9:58 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point
>>>>> of
>>>>> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the
>>>>> bike
>>>>> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you
>>>>> can
>>>>> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
>>>>> Channel.
>>>>
>>>> He's got a full medical scientific team following him (his dad in a
>>>> deux-chevaux), monitoring the salt content of his jersey to prove he
>>>> actually gets a sweat on.
>>>
>>> I'd be surprised if the 2CV makes it up some of the climbs ;)
>>
>> You haven't driven a tin snail, then. The world's most underrated
>> sportscar
>> is also the world's most underrated all terrain vehicle - I've taken
>> 'em
>> places you could not take a land rover.
>>
>> Remember, climbing is all about power to weight (and, at the limit,
>> traction). A deux chevaux doesn't have much power, but it has a very
>> respectable power to weight ratio (which is also why it makes such a
>> good
>> sportscar).
>>
> Do they still have the horizontally opposed twin cyclinder, aircooled
> engine with the push/pull gear shift?
They don't still make 'em, unfortunately. They don't stand up to modern
safety tests. When last they did, yes, it was an aircooled boxer twin
with 'wasted spark' instead of a distributer. The gearstick isn't linear,
but it is push pull.
Citroen are proposing to make a new model to be called '2CV', but it's just
a conventional car in a retro body shell, a bit like the 'new' VW Beatle
and the 'new' Mini.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; This email may contain confidential or otherwise privileged
;; information, though, quite frankly, if you're not the intended
;; recipient and you've got nothing better to do than read other
;; folks' emails then I'm glad to have brightened up your sad little
;; life a tiny bit.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 10:31:16
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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"Andrew Price" <ajprice@free.fr > wrote in message
news:f3p4931ih424fbssp40b2jm5dl9gf9rite@4ax.com...
> Or "Le Tour de France à l'eau claire"
>
> For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Prébois, freelance
> sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
> newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
> the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
> professionals.
>
> His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> prohibited substances.
>
> For those who speak French, there is an interview with him here, and a
> video
>
> <http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2670h_tdfpropre>
>
> and a write-up in Le Monde here:
>
> <http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-676968,36-931951@51-932155,0.html>
And to prove there are no prohibited substances, he'll be tested every
day.....right.
I think we should have a lottery and estimate his average speed. Here's
my estimate, 16mph.
Phil H
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 13:15:27
From: Andrew Price
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:31:16 -0700, "Phil Holman"
<piholmanc@yourservice > wrote:
>And to prove there are no prohibited substances, he'll be tested every
>day.....right.
No idea if it's every day, but he was tested in London before
departure by the AFLD.
>I think we should have a lottery and estimate his average speed. Here's
>my estimate, 16mph.
Currently 31.3 km/h, according to his log entry yesterday:
<http://www.energiapura.info/lautretour/index-fra.html >
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 12:04:38
From: samson
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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In article <f3p4931ih424fbssp40b2jm5dl9gf9rite@4ax.com >, ajprice@free.fr=20
says...
> Or "Le Tour de France =E0 l'eau claire"
>=20
> For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Pr=E9bois, freelance
> sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
> newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
> the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
> professionals.
>=20
> His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> prohibited substances.
Of course it's possible. And I hope he cracks.
S.
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 19:12:55
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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On 7/9/07 11:04 AM, in article
MPG.20fc26a0547d48229897bd@news-server.wi.rr.com, "samson" <noone@noone.net >
wrote:
> In article <f3p4931ih424fbssp40b2jm5dl9gf9rite@4ax.com>, ajprice@free.fr
> says...
>> Or "Le Tour de France à l'eau claire"
>>
>> For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Prébois, freelance
>> sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
>> newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
>> the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
>> professionals.
>>
>> His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
>> prohibited substances.
>
> Of course it's possible. And I hope he cracks.
Is Le Monde going to pay for dope tests for each of the 21 stages he's
"riding" as well? How else will we know for sure that he's riding "à l'eau
claire"?
--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 09:58:10
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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On Jul 9, 12:39 pm, Andrew Price <ajpr...@free.fr > wrote:
> Or "Le Tour de France =E0 l'eau claire"
>
> For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Pr=E9bois, freelance
> sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
> newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
> the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
> professionals.
>
> His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> prohibited substances.
Oh, you mean like _touring_ without the panniers. What's the point of
that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
Channel.
R
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Date: 10 Jul 2007 04:09:49
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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In article <1184000290.637435.121690@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote:
> On Jul 9, 12:39 pm, Andrew Price <ajpr...@free.fr> wrote:
> > Or "Le Tour de France à l'eau claire"
> >
> > For those who haven't already seen it: Guillame Prébois, freelance
> > sports journalist who writes for "Le Monde" and other French language
> > newspapers, and amateur cyclist (25,000 km per year), plans on riding
> > the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one day ahead of the
> > professionals.
> >
> > His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> > prohibited substances.
>
> Oh, you mean like touring without the panniers. What's the point of
> that other than to have the opportunity to diddle around on the bike
> on an expense account? Don't get me wrong, it's nice work if you can
> get it, but it's not racing. Maybe they'll show it on the Travel
> Channel.
>
> R
Bingo. This is the stupidest experiment I've heard of this week, but
it's being perpetrated by the cleverest journalist I've heard of all
year.
Anyone want to fund my vacation?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 09 Jul 2007 16:56:53
From: Fabrizio Mazzoleni
Subject: Re: Tour de France on plain water ...
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"Andrew Price" <ajprice@free.fr > wrote in message
news:f3p4931ih424fbssp40b2jm5dl9gf9rite@4ax.com...
> plans on riding the entire Tour de France, covering each stage one
>day ahead of the professionals.
>
> His goal: prove that it's possible cover the 3,500 km using no
> prohibited substances.
He needs to give himself more than just a one day head start.
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