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Date: 28 Feb 2007 08:20:56
From: cat6
Subject: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!

I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, S
and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for th
Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--i
appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:

http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855

Keep in mind that those are just the *reported* results. I'm sure he'
a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous

--
cat6





 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 22:09:17
From: crit pro
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
In article <cat6.2mon2n@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com >,
cat6 <cat6.2mon2n@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:

> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> Cat5 35+ races

it doesn't take much to win a Cat5 35+ race...basically a bike and make
sure you're still breathing.


 
Date: 28 Feb 2007 09:56:22
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
cat6 wrote:
> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
> appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
> http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> Keep in mind that those are just the *reported* results. I'm sure he's
> a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/89f8afeaf6670afb




 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 19:29:35
From: CowPunk
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Feb 27, 2:20 pm, cat6 <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com >
wrote:
> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
SNIP
I'm sure he's
> a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.
>
> --
> cat6

I thought you needed 6 top 6 finishes to upgrade?
It took him all season to get the 6.... where's the sandbagging/
cherrypicking?



  
Date: 28 Feb 2007 13:56:31
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
CowPunk wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2:20 pm, cat6 <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>
> wrote:
>> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> SNIP
> I'm sure he's
>> a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.
>>
>> --
>> cat6
>
> I thought you needed 6 top 6 finishes to upgrade?
> It took him all season to get the 6.... where's the sandbagging/
> cherrypicking?
>

Results don't matter in cat 5 other than "finish" or "not finish". Do your 10
and move on.

Dan


 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 16:17:36
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Feb 27, 5:28 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:20:56 +1100, cat6
> > <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> >> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> >> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> >> Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
> >> appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
> >>http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> > Before following the link I thought it would be page after page of 1st
> > places. It's not as bad as that.
>
> > That said, he should upgrade.
>
> It is that bad -- the man needs counseling. Wanting to stay in 5's and a sound
> state of mind are mutually exclusive.

Dan, I must beg to differ here. Staying in the 5's and a sound state
of *skin* I would think to be actually mutually exclusive.

Oh-- or maybe that's what you meant. Nevermind!

--D-y, Cat III since '82




 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 16:07:49
From: Keven
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Feb 27, 3:28 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:20:56 +1100, cat6
> > <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> >> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> >> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> >> Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
> >> appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
> >>http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> > Before following the link I thought it would be page after page of 1st
> > places. It's not as bad as that.
>
> > That said, he should upgrade.
>
> It is that bad -- the man needs counseling. Wanting to stay in 5's and a sound
> state of mind are mutually exclusive.
>
> Dan

So he didn't bother to upgrade to Cat 4, big whoop. South Carolina
probably has combined fields of 4/5s, and a Masters C category, so it
makes no difference whatsoever if he "upgrades" from 5 to 4. He
probably has enough points to start 2007 as a Cat 3, which only means
they will confiscate the other half of his brain now.



 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 18:09:23
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:20:56 +1100, cat6
<cat6.2mon2n@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:

>
>I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
>and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
>Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
>appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
>http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855

Before following the link I thought it would be page after page of 1st
places. It's not as bad as that.

That said, he should upgrade.
--
JT
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Date: 27 Feb 2007 23:28:22
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:20:56 +1100, cat6
> <cat6.2mon2n@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
>> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
>> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
>> Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
>> appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>>
>> http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> Before following the link I thought it would be page after page of 1st
> places. It's not as bad as that.
>
> That said, he should upgrade.

It is that bad -- the man needs counseling. Wanting to stay in 5's and a sound
state of mind are mutually exclusive.

Dan


 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 14:06:40
From:
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Feb 27, 4:49 pm, "OMC" <mcree...@msn.com > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2:20 pm, cat6 <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> > and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> > Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
> > appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
> >http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> > Keep in mind that those are just the *reported* results. I'm sure he's
> > a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.
>
> > --
> > cat6
>
> The guys is 35+...............he doesn't have that many years left in
> him....he will be in a wheelchair and old folks home by 2009.....let
> him enjoy his glory !
> DAPOM
>
> "OMC"

Let's see...in the last 12 months, the racer in question had an
average finish of 16th in cat 5 races. Looks like he's ready to turn
pro.



 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 14:04:48
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Feb 27, 4:49 pm, "OMC" <mcree...@msn.com > wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2:20 pm, cat6 <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> > and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> > Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
> > appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
> >http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> > Keep in mind that those are just the *reported* results. I'm sure he's
> > a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.
>
> > --
> > cat6
>
> The guys is 35+...............he doesn't have that many years left in
> him....he will be in a wheelchair and old folks home by 2009.....let
> him enjoy his glory !
> DAPOM
>
> "OMC"

The annual Officials meeting here is this weekend so I don't have all
the details, but it looks like they've really tightened up the rules
around sandbagging and Cat's.
Bill C




  
Date: 28 Feb 2007 22:55:28
From: ST
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On 2/27/07 2:04 PM, in article
1172613887.923366.51710@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com, "Bill C"
<tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:

> On Feb 27, 4:49 pm, "OMC" <mcree...@msn.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2:20 pm, cat6 <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
>>> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
>>> Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
>>> appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>>
>>> http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>>
>>> Keep in mind that those are just the *reported* results. I'm sure he's
>>> a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.
>>
>>> --
>>> cat6
>>
>> The guys is 35+...............he doesn't have that many years left in
>> him....he will be in a wheelchair and old folks home by 2009.....let
>> him enjoy his glory !
>> DAPOM
>>
>> "OMC"
>
> The annual Officials meeting here is this weekend so I don't have all
> the details, but it looks like they've really tightened up the rules
> around sandbagging and Cat's.
> Bill C
>
>

I would not call that sandbagging.......
He has a season of results BUT only a few good results (top 10 or even top
5)

These are the same guys some of you bitch about because they get to cat 3
but do not have enough experience (enough races) to be safe and flow with
the field.

I would recommend to most guys to finish out the season at a 5 and get the
experience you will need at a higher category.



 
Date: 27 Feb 2007 13:49:02
From: OMC
Subject: Re: Ultimate cat5 sandbagger of ALL times!
On Feb 27, 2:20 pm, cat6 <cat6.2mo...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com >
wrote:
> I was checking out the results from last week's races in Greenville, SC
> and noticed that the same guy won both the road race and crit for the
> Cat5 35+ races. So, I did a USA Cycling search and--lookie here--it
> appears we have the ultimate sandbagger:
>
> http://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?compid=223855
>
> Keep in mind that those are just the *reported* results. I'm sure he's
> a nice guy and what-not but sheesh. That's ridiculous.
>
> --
> cat6


The guys is 35+...............he doesn't have that many years left in
him....he will be in a wheelchair and old folks home by 2009.....let
him enjoy his glory !
DAPOM

"OMC"