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Date: 10 Mar 2007 22:58:14
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
the internet at that time.
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 18:15:50
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 12, 2:07 am, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On 11, 8:37 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 10, 11:58 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > > Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
> > > Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
> > > were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
> > > the internet at that time.
>
> > I was at the prologue of Paris-Nice today. I noted that Agritubel had
> > a huge bus, though
> > I seem to recall that they had one of the smaller camper type buses in
> > years past. With
> > only this as evidence, I conjecture that Agritubel radically increased
> > its sponsorship this year
> > by getting assurance of participation from ASO to all their events.
> > This means that there wasn't
> > room for another team, and they chose Unibet.
>
> dumbass,
>
> the heart of the matter is that the UCI sold a bunch of teams protour
> licenses with the guarantee that this would be the ticket into all the
> big races and handed that list to the ASO.
>
> of course the ASO is going to be indignant, and the law they are
> citing is merely a pretense for excluding Unibet. what they are saying
> without having the balls to say it is "only we're going to choose who
> rides in our races".
>
> what unibet should've done is gone around to the organizers and gotten
> guarantees (what astana did and what tinkoff did for the giro) instead
> of falling for the UCI con job.
There are some pictures of me in front of the Agritubel bus, where are
painted images of cows using their products. I will post them later.
-ilan
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 18:07:03
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 11, 8:37 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On 10, 11:58 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
> > Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
> > were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
> > the internet at that time.
>
> I was at the prologue of Paris-Nice today. I noted that Agritubel had
> a huge bus, though
> I seem to recall that they had one of the smaller camper type buses in
> years past. With
> only this as evidence, I conjecture that Agritubel radically increased
> its sponsorship this year
> by getting assurance of participation from ASO to all their events.
> This means that there wasn't
> room for another team, and they chose Unibet.
dumbass,
the heart of the matter is that the UCI sold a bunch of teams protour
licenses with the guarantee that this would be the ticket into all the
big races and handed that list to the ASO.
of course the ASO is going to be indignant, and the law they are
citing is merely a pretense for excluding Unibet. what they are saying
without having the balls to say it is "only we're going to choose who
rides in our races".
what unibet should've done is gone around to the organizers and gotten
guarantees (what astana did and what tinkoff did for the giro) instead
of falling for the UCI con job.
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 17:37:34
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 10, 11:58 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
> Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
> were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
> the internet at that time.
I was at the prologue of Paris-Nice today. I noted that Agritubel had
a huge bus, though
I seem to recall that they had one of the smaller camper type buses in
years past. With
only this as evidence, I conjecture that Agritubel radically increased
its sponsorship this year
by getting assurance of participation from ASO to all their events.
This means that there wasn't
room for another team, and they chose Unibet.
-ilan
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 21:26:17
From: Nev Shea
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote in
news:1173659854.545544.260410@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> I was at the prologue of Paris-Nice today. I noted that Agritubel had
> a huge bus, though
> I seem to recall that they had one of the smaller camper type buses in
> years past. With
> only this as evidence, I conjecture that Agritubel radically increased
> its sponsorship this year
> by getting assurance of participation from ASO to all their events.
> This means that there wasn't
> room for another team, and they chose Unibet.
I have another theory -- it is the same bus as last year after a regimen of
steriods during the off-season
NS
asst to Dr Mabuse
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 10:10:15
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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Nev Shea wrote:
> I have another theory -- it is the same bus as last year after a regimen of
> steriods during the off-season
Bio-Diesel ?
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 01:13:15
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173659854.545544.260410@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> On 10, 11:58 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
>> Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
>> were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
>> the internet at that time.
>
> I was at the prologue of Paris-Nice today. I noted that Agritubel had
> a huge bus, though
> I seem to recall that they had one of the smaller camper type buses in
> years past. With
> only this as evidence, I conjecture that Agritubel radically increased
> its sponsorship this year
> by getting assurance of participation from ASO to all their events.
> This means that there wasn't
> room for another team, and they chose Unibet.
Can we say "payoffs"? Or maybe "sponsorships" is more Euro-sensitive?
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 16:26:32
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 11, 1:16 pm, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGori...@zoo.com > wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
> > Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
> > Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
> > were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
> > the internet at that time.
>
> No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
> however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
>
> That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French law.
>
dumbass,
it wasn't a problem in 2006.
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 12:07:40
From:
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 11, 9:16 am, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGori...@zoo.com > wrote:
>
> No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
> however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
>
> That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French law.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Magilla
Hey dumbape;
http://www.lotto.be/pages/show.aspx?Culture=en&pageid=home&cache=33919f2a
Also in French, Flemish, and German.
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 21:53:49
From: MagillaGorilla
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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benn.trovato@hotmail.com wrote:
> On 11, 9:16 am, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGori...@zoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
>>however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
>>
>>That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French law.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Magilla
>
>
> Hey dumbape;
>
> http://www.lotto.be/pages/show.aspx?Culture=en&pageid=home&cache=33919f2a
>
> Also in French, Flemish, and German.
>
Are you sure you can actually bet thru the Lotto website in France
(versus just viewing the results?). There also might be a distinction
between a lottery and betting/gambling.
Lotteries might not be covered under that ban, whereas betting and
gambling activities are.
But here's the real question for you: Do you think Predictor-Lotto (or
ONCE) is getting some kind of free ride by the French prosecutor and the
ASO, and that the lawyers of Unibet just "forgot" to bring up the
argument that all you ass clowns in here think you've discovered with
Predictor-Lotto, but they didn't?
Try to think before you post next time. Obviously, Predictor-Lotto is
not a problem for SOME reason. You should deduce that simply from the
fact that the ASO and the French prosecutor are only going after Unibet.
So stop acting like a jackass.
Thanks,
Magilla
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 17:46:30
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 3/11/07 1:07 PM, in article
1173640060.196791.316770@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com,
"benn.trovato@hotmail.com" <benn.trovato@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 11, 9:16 am, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGori...@zoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
>> however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
>>
>> That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French law.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Magilla
>
> Hey dumbape;
>
> http://www.lotto.be/pages/show.aspx?Culture=en&pageid=home&cache=33919f2a
>
> Also in French, Flemish, and German.
Now buy a ticket.
Being able to the the results of a national lottery is not the same as being
able to play it.
--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 11:17:46
From: bjorn
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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On 11, 10:16 am, MagillaGorilla <MagillaGori...@zoo.com > wrote:
> No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
> however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
>
> That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French law.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Magilla
I would like to know however why "bet and win" doesn't have a problem.
This picture is from a soccer game last fall:
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/fixturesresults/round=2357/match=1116345/photogallery.htmx
(click on Next to see the pic where ad is visible).
Milan has bwin ad on the jersey and played in Lille, France.
bjorn
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 13:16:08
From: MagillaGorilla
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
> Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
> were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
> the internet at that time.
>
>
No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French law.
Thanks,
Magilla
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 01:11:05
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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"MagillaGorilla" <MagillaGorilla@zoo.com > wrote in message
news:aZidndKxlNjFpGnYnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@ptd.net...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
>> Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
>> were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
>> the internet at that time.
>
> No, Lotto was never available over the Internet to France. Unibet,
> however, can be accessed in France over the Internet.
>
> That's why Unibet's exclusion is both unique and justified under French
> law.
How long does it take to drive from Paris to Belgium?
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 13:37:07
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
> Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
> were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
> the internet at that time.
>
>
Unibet were Mr Bookmaker.
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Date: 12 Mar 2007 01:10:18
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Unibet ain't a sure thing
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"Dan Gregory" <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk > wrote in message
news:55ievkF253ac3U1@mid.individual.net...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest why Unibet is having such a problem and Lotto isn't?
>> Wasn't there another betting agency that sponsored a B team as well? They
>> were racing all over France if memory serves and they were available over
>> the internet at that time.
>>
>>
> Unibet were Mr Bookmaker.
Ahh, yes, it also appears that Mr. Bookmaker was only unwanted after they
turned down sponsoring ASO.
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