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Date: 07 Feb 2007 10:55:13
From: Artoi
Subject: Water bottle for a criterium race
I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?

This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
Thanks.
--




 
Date: 09 Feb 2007 07:44:03
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 4:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> Thanks.

Camelback. Great to land on, too. --D-y




 
Date: 09 Feb 2007 01:22:44
From: mike
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
Artoi <artoi@hotmail.com > wrote in news:artoi-96D279.21550707022007@news-
server.bigpond.net.au:

> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> Thanks.
> --
>

I just did a 20mile, 61 minute fixedgear ride with 4 friends. Wasn't race
conditions, plus about 30 degrees. I didn't see anyone touch there water
bottles. I am sure the warmer it is and the faster you are going the
greater the need for water.


  
Date: 08 Feb 2007 21:46:33
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:22:44 GMT, mike <mike@mouse-potato.com > wrote:

>I just did a 20mile, 61 minute fixedgear ride with 4 friends. Wasn't race
>conditions, plus about 30 degrees. I didn't see anyone touch there water
>bottles.

So what? It's silly to not drink at 30C, even if you didn't feel the
need to.

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Date: 09 Feb 2007 08:11:46
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On 2/8/07 7:46 PM, in article 13ons2p1siq25p9rdrm28asq5vm6kfvlen@4ax.com,
"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:22:44 GMT, mike <mike@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
>> I just did a 20mile, 61 minute fixedgear ride with 4 friends. Wasn't race
>> conditions, plus about 30 degrees. I didn't see anyone touch there water
>> bottles.
>
> So what? It's silly to not drink at 30C, even if you didn't feel the
> need to.


Unless Mike is in the Southern Hemi, I think he meant 30F ... 30C is 86F,
and most people would be drinking at that temperature.


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Date: 10 Feb 2007 19:32:33
From: mike
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
"Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com > wrote in
news:C1F1DD42.5B141%stevens@veloworks.com:

> On 2/8/07 7:46 PM, in article
> 13ons2p1siq25p9rdrm28asq5vm6kfvlen@4ax.com, "John Forrest Tomlinson"
> <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 01:22:44 GMT, mike <mike@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just did a 20mile, 61 minute fixedgear ride with 4 friends.
>>> Wasn't race conditions, plus about 30 degrees. I didn't see anyone
>>> touch there water bottles.
>>
>> So what? It's silly to not drink at 30C, even if you didn't feel the
>> need to.
>
>
> Unless Mike is in the Southern Hemi, I think he meant 30F ... 30C is
> 86F, and most people would be drinking at that temperature.
>
>

southern state, not southern hemi. so yes, its 30F
mike


  
Date: 09 Feb 2007 01:37:01
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
"mike" <mike@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:Xns98D1CF5039342mike1234@199.45.49.11...
> Artoi <artoi@hotmail.com> wrote in news:artoi-96D279.21550707022007@news-
> server.bigpond.net.au:
>
>> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
>> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>>
>> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
>> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
>> Thanks.
>> --
>>
>
> I just did a 20mile, 61 minute fixedgear ride with 4 friends. Wasn't race
> conditions, plus about 30 degrees. I didn't see anyone touch there water
> bottles. I am sure the warmer it is and the faster you are going the
> greater the need for water.

Actually no. The harder you breath the more water you burn. In particularly
dry conditions - such as sub-freezing weather - you lose a lot more
hydration through your breath than in more moderate conditions.

BUT, most people that are well hydrated won't have any problems with a 1/2 -
1 hour crit.




 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 19:18:50
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 3:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> Thanks.

It's not like there's any real downside to carrying a bottle.
The tiny extra weight doesn't matter, especially in a crit,
and if you drink the water before the start, you're carrying
the weight anyway.

Also, if you have to throw a bidon at some guy in the sprint
to look pro like Tom Steels, and you don't have a bidon,
you'll just be kicking yourself.

Ben





  
Date: 08 Feb 2007 10:17:55
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
bjw@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Also, if you have to throw a bidon at some guy in the sprint
> to look pro like Tom Steels, and you don't have a bidon,
> you'll just be kicking yourself.

Dumbass,
Real badass sprinters punch or headbutt, ask Petacchi or McEwen.


  
Date: 08 Feb 2007 04:35:44
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
<bjw@mambo.ucolick.org > wrote in message
news:1170904729.993632.288120@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 7, 3:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
>> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>>
>> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
>> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
>> Thanks.
>
> It's not like there's any real downside to carrying a bottle.
> The tiny extra weight doesn't matter, especially in a crit,
> and if you drink the water before the start, you're carrying
> the weight anyway.
>
> Also, if you have to throw a bidon at some guy in the sprint
> to look pro like Tom Steels, and you don't have a bidon,
> you'll just be kicking yourself.

Ben, you really have to stick to discussions about bicycling where you
actually sound clever and urbane.




 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 16:45:39
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 2:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> Thanks.
> --

For every race I've won, I had a water bottle. Therefore water
bottles are required to win.

Also, I had a cadence for each win, proving that cadence is not a red
herring.

Also, I had a 12t cog for every win, therefore 12t cogs are required
to win.

Now you're set. Go and win!!!!!

SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  
Date: 08 Feb 2007 01:44:47
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
"SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwhite@ti.com > wrote in message
news:1170895539.119554.143700@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> For every race I've won, I had a water bottle. Therefore water
> bottles are required to win.
>
> Also, I had a cadence for each win, proving that cadence is not a red
> herring.
>
> Also, I had a 12t cog for every win, therefore 12t cogs are required
> to win.

I wonder how many of the weally wapid wankers here remember that discussion?




 
Date: 08 Feb 2007 00:04:49
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
Artoi wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?

Fluid ingestion begins to be a substantial factor after approximately 40
minutes of intense exercise in the heat:
http://www.gssiweb.com/Article_Detail.aspx?articleid=23&level=2&topic=2

For 20km in hot weather, I'd bring a full bottle, and an empty bottle,
to the start line. I'd drink half the full bottle on the line, saving
the rest for the race.

Bottles on the bike reduce wind resistance on standard bikes:
http://www.analyticcycling.com/RiderAeroStudy.html

Dan


 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 15:53:38
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
>
> Not. And screw off the bottle holder. Leave the 2 bolts at home,
> they're dead weight.

But then on the last lap, you cannot look like a pro as you
conspicously throw your bottle away (that's when you really need to
save the weight).

B.



 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 13:27:15
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 7:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170867656.697214.72910@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Once on the Interstate in Arizona I stopped to retreive a hat that had
> > blown out the window of my car. Walking around looking for the dumb
> > hat, I saw more than one soda bottle containing suspicious yellow
> > fluid. I don't think any special apparatus is needed. For males that
> > it. What with those wide-mouth bottles and all.
>
> They say that braggarts are trying to compensate for a personal weakness.

You mean me bragging about being stupid enough to wander around in a
piss-soaked shoulder in the Arizona sun looking for a hat?

;-)

Joseph



  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 22:58:55
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
<joseph.santaniello@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1170883635.564775.174460@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 7, 7:57 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> <joseph.santanie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1170867656.697214.72910@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Once on the Interstate in Arizona I stopped to retreive a hat that had
>> > blown out the window of my car. Walking around looking for the dumb
>> > hat, I saw more than one soda bottle containing suspicious yellow
>> > fluid. I don't think any special apparatus is needed. For males that
>> > it. What with those wide-mouth bottles and all.
>>
>> They say that braggarts are trying to compensate for a personal weakness.
>
> You mean me bragging about being stupid enough to wander around in a
> piss-soaked shoulder in the Arizona sun looking for a hat?

I figured more like calling a coke bottle "wide mouth"............




 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 12:17:38
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 1:02 pm, "Carl Sundquist" <carl...@cox.net > wrote:
> "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170866514.547074.21280@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On the other hand, I've never been able to find a Motorman's Friend,
> > an item which I've
> > only seen once in the movie Semi Tough. I couldn't find it by doing a
> > Google search either.
> > It consists of a rubber hose and a little flask, which
> > allows you to relieve yourself discreetly at any time. In the movie,
> > Burt Reynolds uses it for
> > an EST athon seminar. The one time I really needed it was driving a
> > RAAM support vehicle all
> > night: You are obliged to follow the rider continuously at
> > approximately 18 mph for hours at a time, and
> > you end up drinking soft drinks continuously, but then you don't want
> > to force the poor rider to stop for your
> > bathroom break.
>
> http://www.stadiumpal.com/

dumbass,

http://www.chowdaheadz.com/beer-belly-stealth-drinking-system.html



 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 09:00:56
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 5:41 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2:20 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
> > there won't be time to stop during the
> > criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>
> On the other hand, I've never been able to find a Motorman's Friend,
> an item which I've
> only seen once in the movie Semi Tough. I couldn't find it by doing a
> Google search either.
> It consists of a rubber hose and a little flask, which
> allows you to relieve yourself discreetly at any time. In the movie,
> Burt Reynolds uses it for
> an EST athon seminar. The one time I really needed it was driving a
> RAAM support vehicle all
> night: You are obliged to follow the rider continuously at
> approximately 18 mph for hours at a time, and
> you end up drinking soft drinks continuously, but then you don't want
> to force the poor rider to stop for your
> bathroom break.
>
> -ilan

Once on the Interstate in Arizona I stopped to retreive a hat that had
blown out the window of my car. Walking around looking for the dumb
hat, I saw more than one soda bottle containing suspicious yellow
fluid. I don't think any special apparatus is needed. For males that
it. What with those wide-mouth bottles and all.

Joseph




  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 20:33:02
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On 7 Feb 2007 09:00:56 -0800, "joseph.santaniello@gmail.com"
<joseph.santaniello@gmail.com > wrote:

>On Feb 7, 5:41 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 7, 2:20 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
>> > there won't be time to stop during the
>> > criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>>
>> On the other hand, I've never been able to find a Motorman's Friend,
>> an item which I've
>> only seen once in the movie Semi Tough. I couldn't find it by doing a
>> Google search either.
>> It consists of a rubber hose and a little flask, which
>> allows you to relieve yourself discreetly at any time. In the movie,
>> Burt Reynolds uses it for
>> an EST athon seminar. The one time I really needed it was driving a
>> RAAM support vehicle all
>> night: You are obliged to follow the rider continuously at
>> approximately 18 mph for hours at a time, and
>> you end up drinking soft drinks continuously, but then you don't want
>> to force the poor rider to stop for your
>> bathroom break.
>>
>> -ilan
>
>Once on the Interstate in Arizona I stopped to retreive a hat that had
>blown out the window of my car. Walking around looking for the dumb
>hat, I saw more than one soda bottle containing suspicious yellow
>fluid. I don't think any special apparatus is needed. For males that
>it. What with those wide-mouth bottles and all.

I recall one highway department asking people to PLEASE discard the bottles
properly. Seems they build up pressure in the sun and then the poor bastid who
cleans up or mows is faced with a hot piss filled explosive device.

Ron


  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 18:57:19
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
<joseph.santaniello@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1170867656.697214.72910@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Once on the Interstate in Arizona I stopped to retreive a hat that had
> blown out the window of my car. Walking around looking for the dumb
> hat, I saw more than one soda bottle containing suspicious yellow
> fluid. I don't think any special apparatus is needed. For males that
> it. What with those wide-mouth bottles and all.

They say that braggarts are trying to compensate for a personal weakness.




 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 08:41:54
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 2:20 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
> there won't be time to stop during the
> criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.

On the other hand, I've never been able to find a Motorman's Friend,
an item which I've
only seen once in the movie Semi Tough. I couldn't find it by doing a
Google search either.
It consists of a rubber hose and a little flask, which
allows you to relieve yourself discreetly at any time. In the movie,
Burt Reynolds uses it for
an EST athon seminar. The one time I really needed it was driving a
RAAM support vehicle all
night: You are obliged to follow the rider continuously at
approximately 18 mph for hours at a time, and
you end up drinking soft drinks continuously, but then you don't want
to force the poor rider to stop for your
bathroom break.

-ilan



  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 21:34:13
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
In article
<1170866514.547074.21280@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >,
"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote:

> On Feb 7, 2:20 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
> > there won't be time to stop during the
> > criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>
> On the other hand, I've never been able to find a Motorman's Friend,
> an item which I've
> only seen once in the movie Semi Tough. I couldn't find it by doing a
> Google search either.
> It consists of a rubber hose and a little flask, which
> allows you to relieve yourself discreetly at any time. In the movie,
> Burt Reynolds uses it for
> an EST athon seminar. The one time I really needed it was driving a
> RAAM support vehicle all
> night: You are obliged to follow the rider continuously at
> approximately 18 mph for hours at a time, and
> you end up drinking soft drinks continuously, but then you don't want
> to force the poor rider to stop for your
> bathroom break.

<http://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/1630 >
<http://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/1631 >

--
Michael Press


  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 12:02:22
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race

"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1170866514.547074.21280@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> On the other hand, I've never been able to find a Motorman's Friend,
> an item which I've
> only seen once in the movie Semi Tough. I couldn't find it by doing a
> Google search either.
> It consists of a rubber hose and a little flask, which
> allows you to relieve yourself discreetly at any time. In the movie,
> Burt Reynolds uses it for
> an EST athon seminar. The one time I really needed it was driving a
> RAAM support vehicle all
> night: You are obliged to follow the rider continuously at
> approximately 18 mph for hours at a time, and
> you end up drinking soft drinks continuously, but then you don't want
> to force the poor rider to stop for your
> bathroom break.
>

http://www.stadiumpal.com/




 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 08:35:05
From: gds
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 6:20 am, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:

> I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>
> -ilan

Top astronauts too!




  
Date: 08 Feb 2007 10:41:15
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
ilan wrote:
>> I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.

gds wrote:
> Top astronauts too!

You'd think NASA would be able to come up with a more hi-tech solution,
even for women. Perhaps they'd better take some Coke bottles when they go
to s.




   
Date: 08 Feb 2007 12:52:31
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
Donald Munro wrote:
> ilan wrote:
>>> I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>
> gds wrote:
>> Top astronauts too!
>
> You'd think NASA would be able to come up with a more hi-tech solution,
> even for women. Perhaps they'd better take some Coke bottles when they go
> to s.
>
>

You're just trying to piss off some tians. Especially the ones who
have to mow around the landing sites.


  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 22:00:03
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race

"gds" <gary_jill@msn.com > wrote in message
news:1170866105.673079.130580@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 7, 6:20 am, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>>
>> -ilan
>
> Top astronauts too!
>


Seems like it would be the bottoms who really need it.




  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 11:57:46
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On 7 Feb 2007 08:35:05 -0800, "gds" <gary_jill@msn.com > wrote:

>On Feb 7, 6:20 am, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>>
>> -ilan
>
>Top astronauts too!
>

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Date: 07 Feb 2007 05:25:42
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 2:20 pm, "ilan" <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> > criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> > This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> > can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> > Thanks.
> > --
>
> That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
> there won't be time to stop during the
> criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.
>
> -ilan

That's what that thing is in the shorts?

Joseph



 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 05:20:55
From: ilan
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> Thanks.
> --

That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
there won't be time to stop during the
criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.

-ilan



  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 22:37:58
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
"ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1170854455.300346.141350@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
>> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>>
>> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
>> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
>> Thanks.
>> --
>
> I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.

Only crazy female astronauts wear diapers when racing or when driving 1000
miles to hunt down their victims:
http://news.yahoo.com:80/s/nm/20070206/sc_nm/usa_astronauts_dc
--
ty




  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 15:21:53
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On 7 Feb 2007 05:20:55 -0800, "ilan" <ilanpi@yahoo.com > wrote:

>On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
>> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>>
>> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
>> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
>> Thanks.
>> --
>
>That water may cause you to want to urinate during the race. Since
>there won't be time to stop during the
>criterium, I suggest wearing a diaper. All the top racers to it.

I don't know about the OP, but every time I raced I got a case of
dry-mouth in the first mile or two. I needed my water.

Also, the above reminds me of the TV coverage of the last stage of the
TdF a number of years ago. They showed several cyclists coasting along
the Seine being pushed by team-mates while turned sideways on their
saddles. The commentator said something about the racers slowing down
to enjoy the river view. ;-)

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Date: 07 Feb 2007 07:44:52
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:55:13 GMT, Artoi <artoi@hotmail.com > wrote:

>I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
>criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
>This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
>can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
>Thanks.

Take a bottle with a bit of liquid in it (perhaps 1/3 full?) to the
start line in case the event starts late and to calm your nerves
before the start.

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Date: 07 Feb 2007 04:37:57
From: joseph.santaniello@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Feb 7, 11:55 am, Artoi <a...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race? Would a moderate water load prior to the start work?
>
> This is assuming mild weather and at a medium grade level. I know there
> can be other significant variables, but the above question stands.
> Thanks.
> --

Your body won't need it but your mind might. If your mouth goes dry
and you find yourself thinking "I wish I had my bottle" instead of
concentrating on the race, you should have brought one along.

No reason not to bring one IMO.

Joseph



 
Date: 07 Feb 2007 12:00:08
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:55:13 GMT, Artoi wrote:
> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
> criterium race?

Not. And screw off the bottle holder. Leave the 2 bolts at home,
they're dead weight.

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E. Dronkert


  
Date: 07 Feb 2007 14:28:31
From: Mark Fennell
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Not. And screw off the bottle holder. Leave the 2 bolts at home,
> they're dead weight.

You're just saying that because of all those mountains where you live.

k
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 14:23:08
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: Water bottle for a criterium race
Artoi wrote:
>> I am wondering how necessary it is to carry water during a 20km
>> criterium race?

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Not. And screw off the bottle holder. Leave the 2 bolts at home,
> they're dead weight.

And while you're about it, remove one testicle as well.