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Date: 08 May 2007 08:07:25
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: basso only attempted doping


Cycling champ Ivan Basso denies doping
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508/ap_on_sp_ot/cyc_basso_doping

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=3Dnews/2007/may07/may08news2

"Yes, I am Birillo. It was me that suggested to be called this way,"
said the former Discovery Channel rider,

1=2E The code name 'Birillo' that appeared on the June 27, 2006, Guardia
Civil dossier. ... Basso had historically denied Birillo as being the
name of his dog,

2=2E Two telephone recordings from May 13 and 14 made by DS Ignacio
Labarta to Fuentes. "Birillo had arrived with Simoni at sixteen
seconds," ..."A certain Ivan Basso won." Basso was now first overall
with Jos=C3=A9 Enrique Gutierrez (Phonak) second. "Friend, you have... a
first and a second."

4=2E An agenda with a schedule of blood extractions and transfusions
since 2004. In the agenda the pseudonyms 'Birillo' and '2' are used.

5=2E Payments in 2004 of around =E2=82=AC35,000 and another =E2=82=AC6000 f=
or the
freezing the blood (or "gastos de Siberia"),

6=2E Guardia Civil intercepted messages from Basso to Fuentes after the
2006 Giro.

7=2E The analyses of blood, which could have been done in November 2005
in Madrid, with haematologist Merino Batres, a collaborator of
Fuentes. The Spanish Guardia Civil suspect that the cyclist visited
Madrid at least three times but he had always denied being there.

--------------------

Gianni Bugno : "My valuation of Basso remains unchanged, and it
clearly confirms that it is the cyclists who always pay the price,"

Most of the voices out of Italy showed support for Basso and promised
help for his future. "It is important not to leave Ivan alone now. He
is a good guy and not a rascal," said Italian national coach Franco
Ballerini. "Basso has accepted his responsibility,.."

Angelo Zomegnan, also praised Basso, while considering the effect on
his race. "Ivan did a brave thing..."





 
Date: 11 May 2007 16:47:23
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 11, 7:32 pm, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net > wrote:
> On May 11, 4:43 pm, Fred Fredburger
>
>
>
>
>
> <FredFredbur...@WhereAreTheNachos.huh> wrote:
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>,
> > > Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > >>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > >>>> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
> > >>> Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
> > >> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
>
> > > Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
>
> > "Cultured" is a relative thing. Back when I was a boy in the
> > Appalachians, "cultured" meant that the broken cars in your front yard
> > were up on jack stands instead of cinder blocks.
>
> "Cultured" as used, is a crock of shit. It's used to mean literature,
> classical music, opera, etc...All elitist
> BS to make themselves feel superior. The family in the Appalachians
> that can grow a garden, fish and hunt to supplement that, fix a
> tractor or car, build a house, etc... are just as educated and
> cultured just in a different way. Bluegrass music is a great example.
> Bill C- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Before the attacks start I love all of the "elitist" stuff, know a lot
of the other stuff, but don't put people down based on it. Car on
blocks might mean a lot of things ranging from not enough money
currently to make the repair, to collectible, or emotional attachment.
Jack of all trades, Master of none. There are VERY few Masters at
anything.
Bill C



 
Date: 11 May 2007 16:32:37
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 11, 4:43 pm, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@WhereAreTheNachos.huh > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>,
> > Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> >>>> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
> >>> Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
> >> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
>
> > Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
>
> "Cultured" is a relative thing. Back when I was a boy in the
> Appalachians, "cultured" meant that the broken cars in your front yard
> were up on jack stands instead of cinder blocks.

"Cultured" as used, is a crock of shit. It's used to mean literature,
classical music, opera, etc...All elitist
BS to make themselves feel superior. The family in the Appalachians
that can grow a garden, fish and hunt to supplement that, fix a
tractor or car, build a house, etc... are just as educated and
cultured just in a different way. Bluegrass music is a great example.
Bill C



  
Date: 13 May 2007 07:57:31
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 11 May 2007 16:32:37 -0700, Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:

>On May 11, 4:43 pm, Fred Fredburger
><FredFredbur...@WhereAreTheNachos.huh> wrote:
>> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> > In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe5...@news.xs4all.nl>,
>> > Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> >>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> >>>> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
>> >>> Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
>> >> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
>>
>> > Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
>>
>> "Cultured" is a relative thing. Back when I was a boy in the
>> Appalachians, "cultured" meant that the broken cars in your front yard
>> were up on jack stands instead of cinder blocks.
>
>"Cultured" as used, is a crock of shit. It's used to mean literature,
>classical music, opera, etc...All elitist
>BS to make themselves feel superior. The family in the Appalachians
>that can grow a garden, fish and hunt to supplement that, fix a
>tractor or car, build a house, etc... are just as educated and
>cultured just in a different way. Bluegrass music is a great example.

Bluegrass Music is just Techno without electricity.

Ron



   
Date: 13 May 2007 09:41:23
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <b8vd43lkogadhkcghoitu9a22kihq52t5d@4ax.com >,
RonSonic <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:

> On 11 May 2007 16:32:37 -0700, Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net> wrote:

> > Bluegrass music is a great example.
>
> Bluegrass Music is just Techno without electricity.

Or the Ecstasy.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


 
Date: 11 May 2007 10:51:26
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 11, 1:44 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:
>
> What law proscribes fat people?

Why, the unwritten law, of course.

Another man who had his head nailed to the floor was Stig O' Tracy.

Rogers: I've been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your head to the floor.
Stig: No. Never. He was a smashing bloke. He used to buy his
mother
flowers and that. He was like a brother to me.
Rogers: But the police have film of Dinsdale actually nailing your
head to
the floor.
Stig: (pause) Oh yeah, he did that.
Rogers: Why?
Stig: Well he had to, didn't he? I mean there was nothing else he
could do,
be fair. I had transgressed the unwritten law.
Rogers: What had you done?
Stig: Er... well he didn't tell me that, but he gave me his word
that it was
the case, and that's good enough for me with old Dinsy. I
mean, he
didn't *want* to nail my head to the floor. I had to insist.
He
wanted to let me off. He'd do anything for you, Dinsdale
would.

R




 
Date: 11 May 2007 07:12:53
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Donald Munro wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >> > Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
>
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> >> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
>
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
>
> The A-Team is culture in Holland.

Any culture that lets you window shop for poontang, worships beer,
doesn't explode if someone smokes pot, outlawed fat people (and this
despite patat friet met mayonnaise), and is intent on breeding tall
hot women obviously has a leg up, or at least a leg over, most
cultures.

Ewoud is still a Philistine. Every village has one.

R



  
Date: 11 May 2007 10:44:30
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article
<1178892773.646784.305830@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote:

> Donald Munro wrote:
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > >> > Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
> >
> > Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> > >> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
> >
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
> >
> > The A-Team is culture in Holland.
>
> Any culture that lets you window shop for poontang, worships beer,
> doesn't explode if someone smokes pot, outlawed fat people (and this
> despite patat friet met mayonnaise), and is intent on breeding tall
> hot women obviously has a leg up, or at least a leg over, most
> cultures.
>
> Ewoud is still a Philistine. Every village has one.

What law proscribes fat people?

--
Michael Press


  
Date: 11 May 2007 16:59:03
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 11 May 2007 07:12:53 -0700, RicodJour wrote:
> Any culture that lets you window shop for poontang, worships beer,
> doesn't explode if someone smokes pot, outlawed fat people (and this
> despite patat friet met mayonnaise), and is intent on breeding tall
> hot women obviously has a leg up, or at least a leg over, most
> cultures.

Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1990620.stm

--
E. Dronkert


   
Date: 11 May 2007 12:17:16
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:59:03 +0200, Ewoud Dronkert
<firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:

>On 11 May 2007 07:12:53 -0700, RicodJour wrote:
>> Any culture that lets you window shop for poontang, worships beer,
>> doesn't explode if someone smokes pot, outlawed fat people (and this
>> despite patat friet met mayonnaise), and is intent on breeding tall
>> hot women obviously has a leg up, or at least a leg over, most
>> cultures.
>
>Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1990620.stm

I think your press should follow up on what he means when he says he
'enjoys' Celine Dion. Lord knows, they would here...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


    
Date: 11 May 2007 16:53:21
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <a799431q5qdmd1m27k2bpdl2inaq0a96cv@4ax.com >,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:59:03 +0200, Ewoud Dronkert
> <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On 11 May 2007 07:12:53 -0700, RicodJour wrote:
> >> Any culture that lets you window shop for poontang, worships beer,
> >> doesn't explode if someone smokes pot, outlawed fat people (and this
> >> despite patat friet met mayonnaise), and is intent on breeding tall
> >> hot women obviously has a leg up, or at least a leg over, most
> >> cultures.
> >
> >Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1990620.stm
>
> I think your press should follow up on what he means when he says he
> 'enjoys' Celine Dion. Lord knows, they would here...

If he can admit that, he obviously has no shame at all. He surely
can't be trusted anywhere near the seat of power. Shameful...

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


    
Date: 11 May 2007 20:05:07
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> I think your press should follow up on what he means when he says he
> 'enjoys' Celine Dion. Lord knows, they would here...

Don't say she's hot or Ewoud will dredge up some jpg with her in a bikini
looking like she's gone 8 months (and I always thought the Dutch, or at
least the Dutch painters preferred their women with big thighs).


 
Date: 10 May 2007 12:39:53
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
> Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > >
> > > Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
> >
> > Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
>
> Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
>
> What bugged me in retrospect was how an elite squad could be such lousy
> shots. They fired thousands of rounds per episode, and I think they only
> ever hit anyone about twice, at most.
>
> Meanwhile, about every third episode seemed to be "a member of the
> A-Team gets shot, and the rest rally round to save his life."
>
> It was the greatest role of George Peppard's career.

Philistine. Breakfast at Tiffany's if you're upper crust, Banacek if
you're stuffed crust.

R



  
Date: 10 May 2007 16:02:20
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 10 May 2007 12:39:53 -0700, RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com >
wrote:

>Philistine. Breakfast at Tiffany's if you're upper crust, Banacek if
>you're stuffed crust.

What - we're leaving out Bad Night at Jericho? He got to kill Dean
Martin in that one.


  
Date: 10 May 2007 19:56:11
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <1178825993.620847.25620@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
RicodJour <ricodjour@worldemail.com > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
> > Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
> > >
> > > Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
> >
> > Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!
> >
> > What bugged me in retrospect was how an elite squad could be such lousy
> > shots. They fired thousands of rounds per episode, and I think they only
> > ever hit anyone about twice, at most.
> >
> > Meanwhile, about every third episode seemed to be "a member of the
> > A-Team gets shot, and the rest rally round to save his life."
> >
> > It was the greatest role of George Peppard's career.
>
> Philistine. Breakfast at Tiffany's if you're upper crust, Banacek if
> you're stuffed crust.

"Breakfast at Tiffany's"...was that the one that starred the same girl
as in "Paris when it Sizzles"?

But Mr. T did better work in Rocky III, Dirk Benedict in Battlestar
Galactica, and Dwight Schultz in Star Trek:TNG, plus every video game
and animated series since 2000.

I guess this means you didn't like Peppard in "Battle Beyond the Stars"
either.

Being marginally less silly, I have a soft spot for his work in "The
Blue Max." But I just like flying films.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
Date: 10 May 2007 10:57:27
From: SLAVE of THE STATE
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 9, 2:29 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> benjo maso wrote:
> >> How is that possible? He said himself that he only planned to take doping,
> >> didn't he?
> sergio wrote:
> > So you trust him?
> > You are a believer, Benjo.
>
> Who is the god of Irony ?

"Irony Man" -- Black Sabbath

Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all,
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he alive or dead?
Has he thoughts within his head?
We'll just pass him there
why should we even care?

He was turned to steel
in the great magnetic field
When he travelled time
for the future of mankind

Nobody wants him
He just stares at the world
Planning his vengeance
that he will soon unfurl

Now the time is here
for Irony Man to spread fear
Vengeance from the grave
Kills the people he once saved

Nobody wants him
They just turn their heads
Nobody helps him
Now he has his revenge

Heavy boots of lead
fills his victims full of dread
Running as fast as they can
Irony Man lives again!



  
Date: 11 May 2007 20:34:22
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
sergio wrote:
>> > So you trust him?
>> > You are a believer, Benjo.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Who is the god of Irony ?

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> "Irony Man" -- Black Sabbath

Ozzy Osbourne is the god of Irony ? That's kind of ironic.



   
Date: 11 May 2007 18:50:24
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Donald Munro wrote:

> sergio wrote:
>>> > So you trust him?
>>> > You are a believer, Benjo.
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Who is the god of Irony ?
>
> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>> "Irony Man" -- Black Sabbath
>
> Ozzy Osbourne is the god of Irony ? That's kind of ironic.
>
>

It's actually Irony Butterfly, that's what Inna-Godda-Davita is all about.

--
Bill Asher


 
Date: 10 May 2007 05:06:33
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 10, 3:44 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> On 9 May 2007 16:43:59 GMT, William Asher wrote:
>
> > 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
> > Moureoua.
>
> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/may07/romandie07/index.php?id=...
>
> --
> E. Dronkert

There's a scary similarity to Gene Simmons in that picture.
Bill C



 
Date: 09 May 2007 06:35:52
From: RicodJour
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 8, 5:13 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
>
> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg

Is that how you were raised? Poking people in the eye first thing in
the morning?
I'm blind in one eye and the other one is watering.
Yet somehow, I'm oddly aroused.

R



 
Date: 09 May 2007 01:23:19
From: Cyrus De Kline
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 9, 12:48 am, ilan <ila...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Reminds me of Dario Frigo, who said that his doping arsenal during the
> Giro was
> only to give him moral strength because of the possibility of using it
> if he really
> needed to. On the other hand, Frigo's statement was so outrageously
> stupid, that
> it must have been true.
>
> -ilan

Really really stupid, since the syringes in Frigo's posession were
found to contain only saline solution after all ...



  
Date: 09 May 2007 10:37:00
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
ilan wrote:
>> Reminds me of Dario Frigo, who said that his doping arsenal during the
>> Giro was only to give him moral strength because of the possibility of using it
>> if he really needed to.

Cyrus De Kline wrote:
> Really really stupid, since the syringes in Frigo's posession were
> found to contain only saline solution after all ...

Dumbass
Pound has declared the placebo effect as being contrary to the 'spirit and
ethics of sport'. WADA are also working on a hypnosis test.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39082





   
Date: 09 May 2007 15:24:38
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <4641888b$0$20129$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

> ilan wrote:
> >> Reminds me of Dario Frigo, who said that his doping arsenal during the
> >> Giro was only to give him moral strength because of the possibility of
> >> using it
> >> if he really needed to.
>
> Cyrus De Kline wrote:
> > Really really stupid, since the syringes in Frigo's posession were
> > found to contain only saline solution after all ...
>
> Dumbass
> Pound has declared the placebo effect as being contrary to the 'spirit and
> ethics of sport'. WADA are also working on a hypnosis test.
> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39082

Between this and their report on Lance challenging cancer to a rematch,
from now on I'm getting my medical news from the Onion exclusively.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
Date: 08 May 2007 15:48:10
From: ilan
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Reminds me of Dario Frigo, who said that his doping arsenal during the
Giro was
only to give him moral strength because of the possibility of using it
if he really
needed to. On the other hand, Frigo's statement was so outrageously
stupid, that
it must have been true.

-ilan

On May 8, 5:07 pm, "amit.gh...@gmail.com" <amit.gh...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> Cycling champ Ivan Basso denies dopinghttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508=
/ap_on_sp_ot/cyc_basso_doping
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=3Dnews/2007/may07/may08news2
>
> "Yes, I am Birillo. It was me that suggested to be called this way,"
> said the former Discovery Channel rider,
>
> 1. The code name 'Birillo' that appeared on the June 27, 2006, Guardia
> Civil dossier. ... Basso had historically denied Birillo as being the
> name of his dog,
>
> 2. Two telephone recordings from May 13 and 14 made by DS Ignacio
> Labarta to Fuentes. "Birillo had arrived with Simoni at sixteen
> seconds," ..."A certain Ivan Basso won." Basso was now first overall
> with Jos=C3=A9 Enrique Gutierrez (Phonak) second. "Friend, you have... a
> first and a second."
>
> 4. An agenda with a schedule of blood extractions and transfusions
> since 2004. In the agenda the pseudonyms 'Birillo' and '2' are used.
>
> 5. Payments in 2004 of around =E2=82=AC35,000 and another =E2=82=AC6000 f=
or the
> freezing the blood (or "gastos de Siberia"),
>
> 6. Guardia Civil intercepted messages from Basso to Fuentes after the
> 2006 Giro.
>
> 7. The analyses of blood, which could have been done in November 2005
> in Madrid, with haematologist Merino Batres, a collaborator of
> Fuentes. The Spanish Guardia Civil suspect that the cyclist visited
> Madrid at least three times but he had always denied being there.
>
> --------------------
>
> Gianni Bugno : "My valuation of Basso remains unchanged, and it
> clearly confirms that it is the cyclists who always pay the price,"
>
> Most of the voices out of Italy showed support for Basso and promised
> help for his future. "It is important not to leave Ivan alone now. He
> is a good guy and not a rascal," said Italian national coach Franco
> Ballerini. "Basso has accepted his responsibility,.."
>
> Angelo Zomegnan, also praised Basso, while considering the effect on
> his race. "Ivan did a brave thing..."




 
Date: 08 May 2007 15:40:09
From: sergio
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 9 Mag, 00:17, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl > wrote:

> How is that possible? He said himself that he only planned to take doping,
> didn't he?

So you trust him?
You are a believer, Benjo.

Sergio
Pisa



  
Date: 09 May 2007 09:01:08
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 8 May 2007 15:40:09 -0700, sergio <servadio@df.unipi.it > wrote:

>So you trust him?
>You are a believer, Benjo.

We are suspicious of your unwillingness to suspend disbelief.

Curtis L. Russell
rbr Faith Assessor and Lord High Executioner
We haven't chosen a method yet, but it will hurt lots, better believe
it.


   
Date: 09 May 2007 16:23:16
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping

"Curtis L. Russell" <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote in message
news:htk343ltqkrpg5qsm9nq94lerpvt1p81sc@4ax.com...
> On 8 May 2007 15:40:09 -0700, sergio <servadio@df.unipi.it> wrote:
>
>>So you trust him?
>>You are a believer, Benjo.
>
> We are suspicious of your unwillingness to suspend disbelief.

:-)))

Benjo




  
Date: 09 May 2007 09:29:57
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
benjo maso wrote:
>> How is that possible? He said himself that he only planned to take doping,
>> didn't he?

sergio wrote:
> So you trust him?
> You are a believer, Benjo.

Who is the god of Irony ?



 
Date: 08 May 2007 14:21:21
From: paolo
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 8, 1:45 pm, sergio <serva...@df.unipi.it > wrote:
> On 8 Mag, 19:31, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
>
> > I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>
> Please, enlighten me.
> I am not quite sure yet.
>
> Sergio
> Pisa

But no-one has located the dog? Or have we?????
http://www.spaziocaccia.it/gallery/albums/foto_varie/cani/Pict0027.jpg



  
Date: 09 May 2007 12:20:05
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
paolo wrote:
> On May 8, 1:45 pm, sergio <serva...@df.unipi.it> wrote:
>> On 8 Mag, 19:31, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>> Please, enlighten me.
>> I am not quite sure yet.
>>
>> Sergio
>> Pisa
>
> But no-one has located the dog? Or have we?????
> http://www.spaziocaccia.it/gallery/albums/foto_varie/cani/Pict0027.jpg
>
But look what the blood did to him
www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.html&h=568&w=600&sz=32&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=TuFlqZ599iFAFM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbirillo%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN



   
Date: 09 May 2007 12:21:30
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Dan Gregory wrote:
> paolo wrote:
>> On May 8, 1:45 pm, sergio <serva...@df.unipi.it> wrote:
>>> On 8 Mag, 19:31, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>>> Please, enlighten me.
>>> I am not quite sure yet.
>>>
>>> Sergio
>>> Pisa
>>
>> But no-one has located the dog? Or have we?????
>> http://www.spaziocaccia.it/gallery/albums/foto_varie/cani/Pict0027.jpg
>>
> But look what the blood did to him
> www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.html&h=568&w=600&sz=32&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=TuFlqZ599iFAFM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbirillo%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
>
>
try
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.html&h=568&w=600&sz=32&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=TuFlqZ599iFAFM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbirillo%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN


    
Date: 09 May 2007 08:55:53
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Wed, 09 May 2007 12:21:30 +0100, Dan Gregory
<dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk > wrote:

>Dan Gregory wrote:
>> paolo wrote:
>>> On May 8, 1:45 pm, sergio <serva...@df.unipi.it> wrote:
>>>> On 8 Mag, 19:31, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>>>> Please, enlighten me.
>>>> I am not quite sure yet.
>>>>
>>>> Sergio
>>>> Pisa
>>>
>>> But no-one has located the dog? Or have we?????
>>> http://www.spaziocaccia.it/gallery/albums/foto_varie/cani/Pict0027.jpg
>>>
>> But look what the blood did to him
>> www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.html&h=568&w=600&sz=32&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=TuFlqZ599iFAFM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbirillo%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
>>
>>
>try
>http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.protty.it/Album/raduno_roma/slides/1birillo08.html&h=568&w=600&sz=32&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=TuFlqZ599iFAFM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbirillo%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Interestingly, he looks happier and less guilty in the second picture.


 
Date: 08 May 2007 13:45:50
From: sergio
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 8 Mag, 19:31, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl > wrote:

> I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.

Please, enlighten me.
I am not quite sure yet.

Sergio
Pisa



  
Date: 09 May 2007 00:17:03
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping

"sergio" <servadio@df.unipi.it > wrote in message
news:1178657150.774187.119280@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On 8 Mag, 19:31, "benjo maso" <benjo.m...@chello.nl> wrote:
>
>> I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>
> Please, enlighten me.
> I am not quite sure yet.


How is that possible? He said himself that he only planned to take doping,
didn't he?

Benjo




 
Date: 08 May 2007 13:43:12
From: sergio
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 8 Mag, 18:00, "derFah...@gmail.com" <derFah...@gmail.com > wrote:

> Jock sniffers? (how does one say that in Italian?)

You see, apparently he did not inject.
Much like the other guy who did not inhale, either.

Sergio
Pisa



 
Date: 08 May 2007 19:31:23
From: benjo maso
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping

<amit.ghosh@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1178636845.378694.91180@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...


Cycling champ Ivan Basso denies doping
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508/ap_on_sp_ot/cyc_basso_doping



I frankly admit that for I moment thought that Basso had really used doping.
I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.

Benjo




  
Date: 13 May 2007 00:14:36
From: bjw@mambo.ucolick.org
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 11, 6:05 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
> > [Nederlanders]:
>
> > What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?
>
> Everyone loves it, except Richard Groenendaal who hates it when Belgians
> throw beer at him.

"I went to a beer tent and a cyclocross race broke out."
- Rodnuy Daangerfeld.

Ben



  
Date: 08 May 2007 15:01:09
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
benjo maso wrote:
> I frankly admit that for I moment thought that Basso had really used doping.
> I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.

I just hope his dog is well.

Bob Schwartz


   
Date: 13 May 2007 10:24:44
From: Bill C
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On May 13, 12:41 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote:
> In article <b8vd43lkogadhkcghoitu9a22kihq52...@4ax.com>,
>
> RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > On 11 May 2007 16:32:37 -0700, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Bluegrass music is a great example.
>
> > Bluegrass Music is just Techno without electricity.
>
> Or the Ecstasy.
>
> --
> tanx,
> Howard
>
> Never take a tenant with a monkey.
>
> remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Alison Krauss could make me very ecstatic:
http://www.askmen.com/women/singer_300/324_alison_krauss.html
Bill C



    
Date: 14 May 2007 08:46:06
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 13 May 2007 10:24:44 -0700, Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:

>Alison Krauss could make me very ecstatic:
>http://www.askmen.com/women/singer_300/324_alison_krauss.html

Her albums before Union Station tended to sound the same, song after
song. What makes her albums work is the variety now available with the
talent of Union Station. Much better stuff as a package.

OTOH, all that said, they still aren't in the best ten Bluegrass
bands. OTOOH, those that are don't have anyone near as good looking.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


    
Date: 13 May 2007 17:24:52
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <1179077084.527305.275560@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com >,
Bill C <tritonrider@verizon.net > wrote:

> On May 13, 12:41 pm, Howard Kveck <YOURhow...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
> > In article <b8vd43lkogadhkcghoitu9a22kihq52...@4ax.com>,
> >
> > RonSonic <ronso...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > On 11 May 2007 16:32:37 -0700, Bill C <tritonri...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > > Bluegrass music is a great example.
> >
> > > Bluegrass Music is just Techno without electricity.
> >
> > Or the Ecstasy.

> Alison Krauss could make me very ecstatic:
> http://www.askmen.com/women/singer_300/324_alison_krauss.html

She doesn't come in pill form, does she?

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


   
Date: 09 May 2007 12:12:16
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Bob Schwartz wrote:
> benjo maso wrote:
>> I frankly admit that for I moment thought that Basso had really used
>> doping. I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>
> I just hope his dog is well.

Franky VdB lent him his dog's medication.


   
Date: 08 May 2007 20:32:16
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Bob Schwartz wrote:

> benjo maso wrote:
>> I frankly admit that for I moment thought that Basso had really used
>> doping. I'm quite relieved that my suspicion is completely unfounded.
>
> I just hope his dog is well.

If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that espouses storing
ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort of like LDS and a 2-yr
food supply. Better yet would be the Church of the Red Corpuscle which
considers high hematocrit holy and epo a sacrament. I would start the
church myself but I am booked solid on weekends building counterfeit e-
meters.

Nobody likes dopers, but a little piety goes a long way.

--
Bill Asher


    
Date: 09 May 2007 10:42:52
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
William Asher wrote:
> If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that espouses storing
> ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort of like LDS and a 2-yr
> food supply. Better yet would be the Church of the Red Corpuscle which
> considers high hematocrit holy and epo a sacrament. I would start the
> church myself but I am booked solid on weekends building counterfeit e-
> meters.

The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr should
expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might even attract
some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our religion. And if we can't
get movie stars, there should be some pro cyclists on sabbatical around
who could it for much less.


     
Date: 09 May 2007 16:43:59
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Donald Munro wrote:

> William Asher wrote:
>> If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that espouses
>> storing ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort of like LDS
>> and a 2-yr food supply. Better yet would be the Church of the Red
>> Corpuscle which considers high hematocrit holy and epo a sacrament.
>> I would start the church myself but I am booked solid on weekends
>> building counterfeit e- meters.
>
> The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr should
> expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might even
> attract some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our religion. And
> if we can't get movie stars, there should be some pro cyclists on
> sabbatical around who could it for much less.

We're going to need some commandments. Ten seems like too many to keep
track of, so lets cut that down to seven, or so, depending whether I run
out of energy towards the end.

1. Thou shalt not covet thy riding partners' significant others unless
he/she are smoking hot and thou are almost certain he/she are attracted to
thee.

2. Thou shalt not attack when thy teammate is up the road in the break.

3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
Moureoua.

4. Honor thy Kunich, for he, like Benjamin Franlin, is the fount of all
that is good, just, and wise, except he is infused with the holy rage of
roid.

5. Mock not they neighbor's custom Seven, Merckx, or Madonne, even though
you know you could take him/her in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking
up Basso's sister in a bar competition."

6. Thou shalt never spell the name of a Euro-pro correctly.

7. Thou may not use "his/her PEDs were better than mine" as an excuse for
getting smoked in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking up Basso's
sister in a bar competition."

http://tinyurl.com/3d6m4c

--
Bill Asher


      
Date: 10 May 2007 09:44:38
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On 9 May 2007 16:43:59 GMT, William Asher wrote:
> 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
> Moureoua.

Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/may07/romandie07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/may07/romandie07/romandie075/Par1290819


--
E. Dronkert


       
Date: 10 May 2007 16:05:45
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

> On 9 May 2007 16:43:59 GMT, William Asher wrote:
>> 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
>> Moureoua.
>
> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/may07/romandie07/index.php?id=/p
> hotos/2007/may07/romandie07/romandie075/Par1290819
>
>

You mean Commodore Matthew Decker right?

http://tinyurl.com/2u52xl

--
Bill Asher


       
Date: 10 May 2007 15:14:59
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <rhi54396uvs3u0v82ad1rmlsqtemd3i3ci@4ax.com >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:

> On 9 May 2007 16:43:59 GMT, William Asher wrote:
> > 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
> > Moureoua.
>
> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/may07/romandie07/index.php?id=/photos/2007/may07/romandie07/romandie075/Par1290819

Ewoud: an A-Team reference?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


        
Date: 10 May 2007 20:20:29
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
>
> Ewoud: an A-Team reference?

Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.


--
E. Dronkert


         
Date: 10 May 2007 19:21:31
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> >> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
> >
> > Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
>
> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.

Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!

What bugged me in retrospect was how an elite squad could be such lousy
shots. They fired thousands of rounds per episode, and I think they only
ever hit anyone about twice, at most.

Meanwhile, about every third episode seemed to be "a member of the
A-Team gets shot, and the rest rally round to save his life."

It was the greatest role of George Peppard's career.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


          
Date: 11 May 2007 13:43:19
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <4643626d$0$337$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
> Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>>> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>>>> Or indeed like Thomas Dekker, I mean Colonel Decker:
>>> Ewoud: an A-Team reference?
>> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.
>
> Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!

"Cultured" is a relative thing. Back when I was a boy in the
Appalachians, "cultured" meant that the broken cars in your front yard
were up on jack stands instead of cinder blocks.


          
Date: 10 May 2007 22:13:34
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> > Ewoud: an A-Team reference?

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> Yep. Taa-ta-ta-taaa, ta-taa-taaa.

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> Oh Ewoud. And I thought you were so cultured!

The A-Team is culture in Holland.



           
Date: 11 May 2007 09:07:05
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:13:34 +0200, Donald Munro wrote:
> The A-Team is culture in Holland.

That is true.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0779962/


--
E. Dronkert


            
Date: 12 May 2007 00:07:49
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <de5843tqhocd5g5peaf8i5ae1ptc2e3rmn@4ax.com >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:

> On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:13:34 +0200, Donald Munro wrote:
> > The A-Team is culture in Holland.
>
> That is true.
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0779962/

!!!?!!?!!!!!!!!

I don't think anyone can mock the Germans for that David Hasselhoff
thing now.

I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
Nederlands:

What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


             
Date: 13 May 2007 07:59:03
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:07:49 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:

>In article <de5843tqhocd5g5peaf8i5ae1ptc2e3rmn@4ax.com>,
> Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:13:34 +0200, Donald Munro wrote:
>> > The A-Team is culture in Holland.
>>
>> That is true.
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0779962/
>
>!!!?!!?!!!!!!!!
>
>I don't think anyone can mock the Germans for that David Hasselhoff
>thing now.
>
>I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
>Nederlands:
>
>What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?

I thought everyone was in favor of it except for the UCI and the occasional
unpopular rider.

Ron


             
Date: 12 May 2007 03:05:57
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
> [Nederlanders]:
>
> What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?

Everyone loves it, except Richard Groenendaal who hates it when Belgians
throw beer at him.


--
E. Dronkert


              
Date: 12 May 2007 04:36:19
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <464512f6$0$321$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
> > [Nederlanders]:
> >
> > What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?
>
> Everyone loves it, except Richard Groenendaal who hates it when Belgians
> throw beer at him.

I want to marry you for the green card (or Dutch equivalent).

I'm already married to a woman, but that would still be legal in the
Netherlands, right?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


               
Date: 13 May 2007 04:05:48
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-BB92D8.21361811052007@news.telus.net...
>
> I'm already married to a woman, but that would still be legal in the
> Netherlands, right?

Is there anything that's against the law in the Netherlands?




                
Date: 13 May 2007 04:13:25
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <w8w1i.14558$3P3.3400@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:

> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-BB92D8.21361811052007@news.telus.net...
> >
> > I'm already married to a woman, but that would still be legal in the
> > Netherlands, right?
>
> Is there anything that's against the law in the Netherlands?

Being Hayan Hirsi Ali.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


              
Date: 11 May 2007 20:20:06
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping

"Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote in message
news:464512f6$0$321$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
>> [Nederlanders]:
>>
>> What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?
>
> Everyone loves it, except Richard Groenendaal who hates it when Belgians
> throw beer at him.

Does that make him the cyclocross equivalent of Jeff Gordon?



               
Date: 12 May 2007 04:35:13
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <bD81i.40097$jt2.5535@newsfe13.lga >,
"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net > wrote:

> "Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:464512f6$0$321$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >> I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
> >> [Nederlanders]:
> >>
> >> What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?
> >
> > Everyone loves it, except Richard Groenendaal who hates it when Belgians
> > throw beer at him.
>
> Does that make him the cyclocross equivalent of Jeff Gordon?

I don't know: how hot is his new wife, and how much traditionalist CXer
butt is he kicking this year?

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


                
Date: 12 May 2007 00:08:00
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping

"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-CB9886.21351211052007@news.telus.net...
> In article <bD81i.40097$jt2.5535@newsfe13.lga>,
> "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> "Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:464512f6$0$321$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> >> I need to know only one thing to determine my attitude towards the
>> >> [Nederlanders]:
>> >>
>> >> What is their position on running cyclocross races through beer tents?
>> >
>> > Everyone loves it, except Richard Groenendaal who hates it when
>> > Belgians
>> > throw beer at him.
>>
>> Does that make him the cyclocross equivalent of Jeff Gordon?
>
> I don't know: how hot is his new wife, and how much traditionalist CXer
> butt is he kicking this year?

Here's half of your answer: Gordon's wife is a Belgian model.

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Ingrid+Vandebosch&btnG=Search+Images



      
Date: 09 May 2007 22:16:12
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <Xns992B62C8C836EFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote:

> We're going to need some commandments. Ten seems like too many to keep
> track of, so lets cut that down to seven, or so, depending whether I run
> out of energy towards the end.
>
> 1. Thou shalt not covet thy riding partners' significant others unless
> he/she are smoking hot and thou are almost certain he/she are attracted to
> thee.
>
> 2. Thou shalt not attack when thy teammate is up the road in the break.
>
> 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
> Moureoua.
>
> 4. Honor thy Kunich, for he, like Benjamin Franlin, is the fount of all
> that is good, just, and wise, except he is infused with the holy rage of
> roid.

Is that rage steroid or hemorrhoid based? I suppose it'd be easy to
know if you'd said "holey rage".

> 5. Mock not they neighbor's custom Seven, Merckx, or Madonne, even though
> you know you could take him/her in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking
> up Basso's sister in a bar competition."
>
> 6. Thou shalt never spell the name of a Euro-pro correctly.

Just because some euro-pro spells his name differently than we spell
his name doesn't mean he's right. As seen in Commandment 3...

> 7. Thou may not use "his/her PEDs were better than mine" as an excuse for
> getting smoked in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking up Basso's
> sister in a bar competition."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3d6m4c

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


      
Date: 09 May 2007 18:54:56
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <Xns992B62C8C836EFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Donald Munro wrote:
>
> > William Asher wrote:
> >> If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that espouses
> >> storing ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort of like LDS
> >> and a 2-yr food supply. Better yet would be the Church of the Red
> >> Corpuscle which considers high hematocrit holy and epo a sacrament.
> >> I would start the church myself but I am booked solid on weekends
> >> building counterfeit e- meters.
> >
> > The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr should
> > expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might even
> > attract some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our religion. And
> > if we can't get movie stars, there should be some pro cyclists on
> > sabbatical around who could it for much less.
>
> We're going to need some commandments. Ten seems like too many to keep
> track of, so lets cut that down to seven, or so, depending whether I run
> out of energy towards the end.
>
> 1. Thou shalt not covet thy riding partners' significant others unless
> he/she are smoking hot and thou are almost certain he/she are attracted to
> thee.
>
> 2. Thou shalt not attack when thy teammate is up the road in the break.
>
> 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
> Moureoua.
>
> 4. Honor thy Kunich, for he, like Benjamin Franlin, is the fount of all
> that is good, just, and wise, except he is infused with the holy rage of
> roid.
>
> 5. Mock not they neighbor's custom Seven, Merckx, or Madonne, even though
> you know you could take him/her in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking
> up Basso's sister in a bar competition."
>
> 6. Thou shalt never spell the name of a Euro-pro correctly.
>
> 7. Thou may not use "his/her PEDs were better than mine" as an excuse for
> getting smoked in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking up Basso's
> sister in a bar competition."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3d6m4c

And it was very good.

Really, I'm just super-relieved that the tinyurl didn't point to another
picture of Basso's not-sister.

But I thought we totally got to mock our neighbour's bike, unless they
could use it properly.

Also, 8. Keep the happy hour holy. Six hours shalt thou labour, the
other two thou shalt slack off on the Internet, and on the ninth hour
thou shalt mix drinks.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


       
Date: 09 May 2007 21:40:43
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> In article <Xns992B62C8C836EFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4>,
> William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Donald Munro wrote:
>>
>> > William Asher wrote:
>> >> If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that
>> >> espouses storing ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort
>> >> of like LDS and a 2-yr food supply. Better yet would be the
>> >> Church of the Red Corpuscle which considers high hematocrit holy
>> >> and epo a sacrament. I would start the church myself but I am
>> >> booked solid on weekends building counterfeit e- meters.
>> >
>> > The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr
>> > should expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might
>> > even attract some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our
>> > religion. And if we can't get movie stars, there should be some pro
>> > cyclists on sabbatical around who could it for much less.
>>
>> We're going to need some commandments. Ten seems like too many to
>> keep track of, so lets cut that down to seven, or so, depending
>> whether I run out of energy towards the end.
>>
>> 1. Thou shalt not covet thy riding partners' significant others
>> unless he/she are smoking hot and thou are almost certain he/she are
>> attracted to thee.
>>
>> 2. Thou shalt not attack when thy teammate is up the road in the
>> break.
>>
>> 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
>> Moureoua.
>>
>> 4. Honor thy Kunich, for he, like Benjamin Franlin, is the fount of
>> all that is good, just, and wise, except he is infused with the holy
>> rage of roid.
>>
>> 5. Mock not they neighbor's custom Seven, Merckx, or Madonne, even
>> though you know you could take him/her in a sprint, climb,
>> time-trial, or "picking up Basso's sister in a bar competition."
>>
>> 6. Thou shalt never spell the name of a Euro-pro correctly.
>>
>> 7. Thou may not use "his/her PEDs were better than mine" as an
>> excuse for getting smoked in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking
>> up Basso's sister in a bar competition."
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3d6m4c
>
> And it was very good.
>
> Really, I'm just super-relieved that the tinyurl didn't point to
> another picture of Basso's not-sister.
>
> But I thought we totally got to mock our neighbour's bike, unless they
> could use it properly.
>
> Also, 8. Keep the happy hour holy. Six hours shalt thou labour, the
> other two thou shalt slack off on the Internet, and on the ninth hour
> thou shalt mix drinks.
>

No decent religion is complete without two sects who hate each other's guts
because of minor and essentially pointless differences in theology so I'm
going to say your statement about mocking bikes is heresey, as is your 8th
commandment. Therefore you are apostate and all those who believe in
orthodox corpuscular kunichinity must hate you. Unless everyone really
likes your ideas and then I am totally on your side because I am not
fanatic about this.

Death to the infidel corpuscular ryanists! Or not.

--
Bill Asher


        
Date: 10 May 2007 00:27:56
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <Xns992B9517AAF3BFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> > In article <Xns992B62C8C836EFkldeltaC@130.133.1.4>,
> > William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Donald Munro wrote:
> >>
> >> > William Asher wrote:
> >> >> If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that
> >> >> espouses storing ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort
> >> >> of like LDS and a 2-yr food supply. Better yet would be the
> >> >> Church of the Red Corpuscle which considers high hematocrit holy
> >> >> and epo a sacrament. I would start the church myself but I am
> >> >> booked solid on weekends building counterfeit e- meters.
> >> >
> >> > The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr
> >> > should expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might
> >> > even attract some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our
> >> > religion. And if we can't get movie stars, there should be some pro
> >> > cyclists on sabbatical around who could it for much less.
> >>
> >> We're going to need some commandments. Ten seems like too many to
> >> keep track of, so lets cut that down to seven, or so, depending
> >> whether I run out of energy towards the end.
> >>
> >> 1. Thou shalt not covet thy riding partners' significant others
> >> unless he/she are smoking hot and thou are almost certain he/she are
> >> attracted to thee.
> >>
> >> 2. Thou shalt not attack when thy teammate is up the road in the
> >> break.
> >>
> >> 3. Thou shalt not ride with thine tongue hanging out like Christoffe
> >> Moureoua.
> >>
> >> 4. Honor thy Kunich, for he, like Benjamin Franlin, is the fount of
> >> all that is good, just, and wise, except he is infused with the holy
> >> rage of roid.
> >>
> >> 5. Mock not they neighbor's custom Seven, Merckx, or Madonne, even
> >> though you know you could take him/her in a sprint, climb,
> >> time-trial, or "picking up Basso's sister in a bar competition."
> >>
> >> 6. Thou shalt never spell the name of a Euro-pro correctly.
> >>
> >> 7. Thou may not use "his/her PEDs were better than mine" as an
> >> excuse for getting smoked in a sprint, climb, time-trial, or "picking
> >> up Basso's sister in a bar competition."
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3d6m4c
> >
> > And it was very good.
> >
> > Really, I'm just super-relieved that the tinyurl didn't point to
> > another picture of Basso's not-sister.
> >
> > But I thought we totally got to mock our neighbour's bike, unless they
> > could use it properly.
> >
> > Also, 8. Keep the happy hour holy. Six hours shalt thou labour, the
> > other two thou shalt slack off on the Internet, and on the ninth hour
> > thou shalt mix drinks.
> >
>
> No decent religion is complete without two sects who hate each other's guts
> because of minor and essentially pointless differences in theology so I'm
> going to say your statement about mocking bikes is heresey, as is your 8th
> commandment. Therefore you are apostate and all those who believe in
> orthodox corpuscular kunichinity must hate you. Unless everyone really
> likes your ideas and then I am totally on your side because I am not
> fanatic about this.

Wait, I'm the LIVEDRUNK high prophet. How can I be the infidel?

> Death to the infidel corpuscular ryanists! Or not.

The ambivalently heretical Asherians must be stoned! Their equanimity is
proof of their heresy. Let them be anathema!

Also, their leader's name sounds a bit like a porn name.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


         
Date: 10 May 2007 05:00:58
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in
news:rcousine-3298DD.17275609052007@news.telus.net:

<snip >
>
> Also, their leader's name sounds a bit like a porn name.
>

That would be a good thing around here.

--
Bill Asher


          
Date: 10 May 2007 07:47:51
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <Xns992BE005DDBC2FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4 >,
William Asher <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in
> news:rcousine-3298DD.17275609052007@news.telus.net:
>
> <snip>
> >
> > Also, their leader's name sounds a bit like a porn name.
> >
>
> That would be a good thing around here.

It's a fair cop.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


     
Date: 09 May 2007 08:53:30
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Wed, 09 May 2007 10:42:52 +0000, Donald Munro
<fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

>The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr should
>expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might even attract
>some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our religion. And if we can't
>get movie stars, there should be some pro cyclists on sabbatical around
>who could it for much less.

Add stain glass windows to a bar, find a bartender that doesn't mind
wearing a stole, and get a good bouncer to keep the sanctimony in line
and I think you are in business. In the U.S., I can't see you getting
a non-profit status for this without a iron-clad creed. The UUs and
Buddhists were grandfathered in...

But, damn, get a bartender that knows how to pour a good drink that
still makes a profit, errh, margin and you would be rolling in money,
being a non-profit and all. Don't know if wafers are cheaper than
peanuts or not, and you'd probably have to add salt to sell beer.

All that said, allowing dancing is probably irreligious.

And a True Believer may believe a light beer can taste as good as a
regular beer, but I wouldn't want to share a sacrament with the dude.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


      
Date: 09 May 2007 18:20:26
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
William Asher wrote:
>>>If there isn't already, there soon will be a religion that espouses
>>>storing ones own blood as a way to achieving grace. Sort of like LDS
>>>and a 2-yr food supply. Better yet would be the Church of the Red
>>>Corpuscle which considers high hematocrit holy and epo a sacrament.

Donald Munro wrote:
>>The LIVEDRUNK(tm) thing is getting a bit old hat. Perhaps rbr should
>>expand into other sectors and start a new religion. We might even attract
>>some movie stars like Tom Cruise to promote our religion. And if we can't
>>get movie stars, there should be some pro cyclists on sabbatical around
>>who could it for much less.

Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> Add stain glass windows to a bar, find a bartender that doesn't mind
> wearing a stole, and get a good bouncer to keep the sanctimony in line
> and I think you are in business. In the U.S., I can't see you getting
> a non-profit status for this without a iron-clad creed. The UUs and
> Buddhists were grandfathered in...

To keep the blood theme going we could specialize in a mix of vodka and
EPO enriched oxygenated blood (ingested via a intravenous drip). Of course
we need to find an EPO supplier willing to supply in bulk if we want to
make a profit. The more sqeamish or less devout followers could substitute
tomato juice for blood.


> But, damn, get a bartender that knows how to pour a good
drink that
> still makes a profit, errh, margin and you would be rolling in money,
> being a non-profit and all. Don't know if wafers are cheaper than
> peanuts or not, and you'd probably have to add salt to sell beer.
>
> All that said, allowing dancing is probably irreligious.
>
> And a True Believer may believe a light beer can taste as good as a
> regular beer, but I wouldn't want to share a sacrament with the dude.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...



 
Date: 08 May 2007 12:10:51
From: John Rees
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
amit.ghosh@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Cycling champ Ivan Basso denies doping
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070508/ap_on_sp_ot/cyc_basso_doping
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/may07/may08news2
>
> "Yes, I am Birillo. It was me that suggested to be called this way,"
> said the former Discovery Channel rider,
>
>

Geez! So we are supposed to believe this shit now. He lied for over a
year about his stupid mutts name. But now, he's coming clean? Just
think about how emphatic they all are. How can we possibly believe a
thing they say anymore. Gems for the ages:

- "Yeah, I took EPO, but it was only the *one* time. I kept the vials
to remind me of what a naughty boy I had become"
- "Yeah, he's got some of my blood in his fridge. But I never actually
used it."
- "Yeah I smoked marijuana, but I never inhaled"

Basso was making a bunch of money, but to throw away 50,000 euros to a
guy to keep some of his blood around 'just in case' is an insult to even
a caveman's intelligence


  
Date: 08 May 2007 19:19:13
From: Keith
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
>Geez! So we are supposed to believe this shit now. He lied for over a
>year about his stupid mutts name. But now, he's coming clean? Just
>think about how emphatic they all are. How can we possibly believe a
>thing they say anymore. Gems for the ages:
>
>- "Yeah, I took EPO, but it was only the *one* time. I kept the vials
>to remind me of what a naughty boy I had become"
>- "Yeah, he's got some of my blood in his fridge. But I never actually
>used it."
>- "Yeah I smoked marijuana, but I never inhaled"
>
>Basso was making a bunch of money, but to throw away 50,000 euros to a
>guy to keep some of his blood around 'just in case' is an insult to even
>a caveman's intelligence

Indeed,

"Basso indicated that he did not re-inject blood for the 2006 Giro,
and that it was to be used for the 2006 Tour, which he was barred from
racing. "

Right...liar once, liar forever I guess !


   
Date: 08 May 2007 13:34:53
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:19:13 +0200, Keith <nospam@nospam.com > wrote:

>"Basso indicated that he did not re-inject blood for the 2006 Giro,
>and that it was to be used for the 2006 Tour, which he was barred from
>racing. "
>
>Right...liar once, liar forever I guess !

Come on now - simple case of trying for that second peak. I for one am
willing to suspend disbelief and believe him. "Cycle Fan" means taking
the bitter with the truly bizarre.

The only question is where on the first training cycle do you draw
blood? What if your Giro sucks - then all you can think is "I'm
screwed twice - the blood ain't worth shit."

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


    
Date: 08 May 2007 12:47:39
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Curtis L. Russell wrote:

> On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:19:13 +0200, Keith <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>"Basso indicated that he did not re-inject blood for the 2006 Giro,
>>and that it was to be used for the 2006 Tour, which he was barred from
>>racing. "
>>
>>Right...liar once, liar forever I guess !
>
> Come on now - simple case of trying for that second peak. I for one am
> willing to suspend disbelief and believe him. "Cycle Fan" means taking
> the bitter with the truly bizarre.
>
> The only question is where on the first training cycle do you draw
> blood? What if your Giro sucks - then all you can think is "I'm
> screwed twice - the blood ain't worth shit."

Why is no one asking the obvious question? Is Basso's cheating a result of
his upbringing? If so, what does that say about Elisa Basso's breasts? Are
they enhanced too?


     
Date: 08 May 2007 21:52:04
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Fred Fredburger wrote:
> Why is no one asking the obvious question? Is Basso's cheating a result of
> his upbringing? If so, what does that say about Elisa Basso's breasts? Are
> they enhanced too?

I am the official WADA podium girl breast implant checker, and I can
assure you I did not receive any special favours nor was I unduly
distracted while carrying out my duties on Miss Basso.



      
Date: 08 May 2007 16:25:26
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Tue, 08 May 2007 21:52:04 +0200, Donald Munro
<fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

>I am the official WADA podium girl breast implant checker, and I can
>assure you I did not receive any special favours nor was I unduly
>distracted while carrying out my duties on Miss Basso.

That speaks to integrity of the testing procedure, but does not speak
to the results. Or are you holding out to conduct a B test? Although
without a picture provided by ED, I'm remembering more like at least a
C+...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


       
Date: 08 May 2007 23:13:53
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 08 May 2007 21:52:04 +0200, Donald Munro wrote:
>> I am the official WADA podium girl breast implant checker, and I can
>> assure you I did not receive any special favours nor was I unduly
>> distracted while carrying out my duties on Miss Basso.
>
> That speaks to integrity of the testing procedure, but does not speak
> to the results. Or are you holding out to conduct a B test? Although
> without a picture provided by ED, I'm remembering more like at least a
> C+...

Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg


--
E. Dronkert


        
Date: 10 May 2007 00:39:36
From: Jay Hill
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
> http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg

You're going to hell.


         
Date: 10 May 2007 10:14:31
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
>> http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg

Jay Hill wrote:
> You're going to hell.

The nice thing about hell is that its so hot the chicks all wear g-string
bikinis.



        
Date: 08 May 2007 18:53:52
From: Fred Fredburger
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 May 2007 21:52:04 +0200, Donald Munro wrote:
>>> I am the official WADA podium girl breast implant checker, and I can
>>> assure you I did not receive any special favours nor was I unduly
>>> distracted while carrying out my duties on Miss Basso.
>>
>> That speaks to integrity of the testing procedure, but does not speak
>> to the results. Or are you holding out to conduct a B test? Although
>> without a picture provided by ED, I'm remembering more like at least a
>> C+...
>
> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
> http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg
>
>

That's just ... just ... just ... UGH!!!


         
Date: 09 May 2007 09:28:34
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
>> http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg

Fred Fredburger wrote:
> That's just ... just ... just ... UGH!!!

Now you see why my job is so traumatic. Podium girl breast implant
checkers require frequent psychological counselling sessions to cope with
the stress.



          
Date: 09 May 2007 15:25:52
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <4641787e$0$20132$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> >> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
> >> http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg
>
> Fred Fredburger wrote:
> > That's just ... just ... just ... UGH!!!
>
> Now you see why my job is so traumatic. Podium girl breast implant
> checkers require frequent psychological counselling sessions to cope with
> the stress.

Uh huh. My mom the nurse tells a story of a doctor who declared a
patient dead from outside of the ambulance. The smell was that strong.

I believe a similar situation would exist here.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


        
Date: 08 May 2007 19:55:09
From: mike
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
OMG, sad that she thinks she looks good. Talk about a broken mirror.

"Ewoud Dronkert" <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote in message
news:4640e811$0$333$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 May 2007 21:52:04 +0200, Donald Munro wrote:
>>> I am the official WADA podium girl breast implant checker, and I can
>>> assure you I did not receive any special favours nor was I unduly
>>> distracted while carrying out my duties on Miss Basso.
>>
>> That speaks to integrity of the testing procedure, but does not speak
>> to the results. Or are you holding out to conduct a B test? Although
>> without a picture provided by ED, I'm remembering more like at least a
>> C+...
>
> Here's vintage Elisa. Her outlook is about the same as her brother's.
> http://www.hersenscheet.com/images/beach1.jpg
>
>
> --
> E. Dronkert




     
Date: 08 May 2007 15:53:18
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:47:39 -0700, Fred Fredburger
<Fred.Fredburger@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh > wrote:


>Why is no one asking the obvious question? Is Basso's cheating a result of
>his upbringing? If so, what does that say about Elisa Basso's breasts? Are
>they enhanced too?

LOL
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Date: 08 May 2007 19:58:33
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> Come on now - simple case of trying for that second peak. I for one am
> willing to suspend disbelief and believe him. "Cycle Fan" means taking
> the bitter with the truly bizarre.

Ah so andoulette has a bitter taste for some.
BTW if you google for andoulette your name appears (via ewouds favourite site) as the
4th result on the first page so don't say I don't provide publicity for my
rbr clients.

Donald
rbr PR manager



     
Date: 08 May 2007 15:03:52
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:58:33 +0200, Donald Munro
<fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>> Come on now - simple case of trying for that second peak. I for one am
>> willing to suspend disbelief and believe him. "Cycle Fan" means taking
>> the bitter with the truly bizarre.
>
>Ah so andoulette has a bitter taste for some.
>BTW if you google for andoulette your name appears (via ewouds favourite site) as the
>4th result on the first page so don't say I don't provide publicity for my
>rbr clients.
>
>Donald
>rbr PR manager

I'm honored, and under a Master Fatties result title. My wife won a
Nursing Hero award last month, but now balance has been restored in
our marriage...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


    
Date: 08 May 2007 17:54:06
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Curtis L. Russell wrote:

> I for one am willing to suspend disbelief and believe him.

1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 91.33.36 (38.54 km/h)
2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 9.18
3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir 11.59

Imagine the time gap if Basso HAD dipped into some of that 2004 Reserve.

Dan

P.S. If Basso is DQ'ed, Can "Cataluna" be far behind? It's not over yet, Gilby.


     
Date: 09 May 2007 01:43:01
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m > wrote in message
news:2P20i.21348$Um6.12748@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>
>> I for one am willing to suspend disbelief and believe him.
>
> 1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC
> 91.33.36 (38.54 km/h)
> 2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
> 9.18
> 3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
> 11.59
>
> Imagine the time gap if Basso HAD dipped into some of that 2004 Reserve.

Platelets are good for a couple of days before they go bad.

Whole blood is only good for 30 days.

Plasma can be frozen for a year.

Wasn't it WHOLE blood that was recovered?




      
Date: 09 May 2007 04:24:11
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Tom Kunich wrote:
> "Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
> news:2P20i.21348$Um6.12748@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
>> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>>
>>> I for one am willing to suspend disbelief and believe him.
>> 1 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC
>> 91.33.36 (38.54 km/h)
>> 2 José E. Gutierrez Cataluna (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems
>> 9.18
>> 3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
>> 11.59
>>
>> Imagine the time gap if Basso HAD dipped into some of that 2004 Reserve.
>
> Platelets are good for a couple of days before they go bad.
>
> Whole blood is only good for 30 days.
>
> Plasma can be frozen for a year.
>
> Wasn't it WHOLE blood that was recovered?
>

Oh. And I assumed the material from 2004 must have been in the cellar, aging....


     
Date: 08 May 2007 20:01:16
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
Dan Connelly wrote:

> Imagine the time gap if Basso HAD dipped into some of that 2004 Reserve.

Dumbass,
Surely you mean vintage, not reserve. Rbr is LIVEDRUNK(tm) territory.
Anyway I'm told the '98 vintage is still the best.




      
Date: 08 May 2007 18:38:38
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
In article <4640bace$0$20097$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:

> Dan Connelly wrote:
>
> > Imagine the time gap if Basso HAD dipped into some of that 2004 Reserve.
>
> Dumbass,
> Surely you mean vintage, not reserve. Rbr is LIVEDRUNK(tm) territory.
> Anyway I'm told the '98 vintage is still the best.

Vintage? Reserve? What's the word?

Thunderbird!

--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
Date: 08 May 2007 09:00:02
From: derFahrer@gmail.com
Subject: Re: basso only attempted doping
> Gianni Bugno : "My valuation of Basso remains unchanged, and it
> clearly confirms that it is the cyclists who always pay the price,"
>
> Most of the voices out of Italy showed support for Basso and promised
> help for his future. "It is important not to leave Ivan alone now. He
> is a good guy and not a rascal," said Italian national coach Franco
> Ballerini. "Basso has accepted his responsibility,.."
>
> Angelo Zomegnan, also praised Basso, while considering the effect on
> his race. "Ivan did a brave thing..."

Jock sniffers? (how does one say that in Italian?)