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Date: 13 Nov 2007 15:11:56
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: epic stage 3 in TOC
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prologue: the Tour decides supporting so many of SF's finest isn't in it's financial best interest, and goes south for an easy-to-run course in Palo Alto. Nice viewing ops, with plenty of time to walk the entire route.
stage 1: same as last year
stage 2: same as last year. Watch those Botts dots.
stage 3: serious upgrade from last year: through Patterson, Del Puerto Canyon Road (steep climb) to the junction, San Antonio Valley Road (quite steep) to Mt Hamilton summit, 4200 feet of descending over 19 miles into San Jose, short jaunt on Piedmont, 1900 vertical feet with extended 10% grades on Sierra Road, technical descent of Felter Road, run-in into San Jose. It's too bad about that long run-in, but the addition of a second 1st category climb (replacing Patterson Pass) is going to be really interesting. Expect plenty of HD. I've ridden all of these roads west of Patterson.
stage 4-6: basically the same
stage 7: big upgrade, but the finishing circuits will neutralize the mountain pass
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 09:49:12
From: Scott
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 16, 6:55 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I suggest that you're an argumentative idiot. I don't give half a
> > damn about Roll, or Hampsten, or why Hampsten doesn't give more props
> > to Roll, or whatever.
>
> And yet you call Roll a liar. Interesting indeed.
>
> > You first mentioned your concern over Hampsten not mentioning Roll
> > when he speaks of that day on the Gavia. I merely mentioned it may
> > not be the case that the events of the day happened quite the way Roll
> > recalls them.
>
> Right, the most monumental stage in history and he doesn't remember it the
> way it happened. Can you grow smaller yet?
>
> > I damn sure don't mean to belittle Roll
>
> Oh, wait - you mean you simply wanted to belittle me? Hey, at 6'4" and 200
> lbs I could stand a little belittling. I'd even appreciate it. But instead
> you've managed to make yourself smaller.
>
> > Okay, wait... in all honesty, I am peeved by his incessant
> > mispronounciation of Tour DAY France, which may have been funny to
> > some when he first did it, but which has long worn out any humor value
> > it ever had.
>
> My, you grow more adult by the word count.
Tom,
I didn't call Roll a liar. I merely suggested that, as a reason why
Hampsten doesn't mention him, that perhaps he (Roll) tells the story
differently than how Hampsten remembers it. Maybe its Hampsten who's
memory is faulty. I don't know. Surely you can appreciate how some
memories, especially memories of epic events, grow with age. Sort of
like the old adage, 'the older I get, the faster I was.' FWIW, if you
didn't see the humor in my final paragraph, you really should relax a
bit. Not only was I poking fun at Roll, I was providing a bit of
absurd proof that perhaps I DO have something against Roll. As if his
pronounciation of TdF is really that big a deal. C'mon, man, lighten
up.
S.
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 13:13:48
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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"Scott" <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:2624d7df-2b46-462a-97e2-f9bc19513cd2@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 16, 6:55 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>> And yet you call Roll a liar. Interesting indeed.
>
> I didn't call Roll a liar. I merely suggested that, as a reason why
> Hampsten doesn't mention him, that perhaps he (Roll) tells the story
> differently than how Hampsten remembers it. Maybe its Hampsten who's
> memory is faulty. I don't know. Surely you can appreciate how some
> memories, especially memories of epic events, grow with age. Sort of
> like the old adage, 'the older I get, the faster I was.' FWIW, if you
> didn't see the humor in my final paragraph, you really should relax a
> bit. Not only was I poking fun at Roll, I was providing a bit of
> absurd proof that perhaps I DO have something against Roll. As if his
> pronounciation of TdF is really that big a deal. C'mon, man, lighten
> up.
Consider this - the cars couldn't go through that storm. They had to take a
detour. So, if you READ what Hampsten wrote about getting all wet and not
having any warm clothing until he got them from the team car you have to
wonder HOW he got them from a team car that wasn't allowed on the Stelvio.
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 12:44:25
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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In article <2624d7df-2b46-462a-97e2-f9bc19513cd2@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com >,
Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com > wrote:
[Responding to TK]
> C'mon, man, lighten up.
You aren't going to hold your breath waiting for that to happen, are you, Scott?
--
tanx,
Howard
Safe when used as directed...
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 17 Nov 2007 13:12:53
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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> [Responding to TK]
>
>> C'mon, man, lighten up.
>
> You aren't going to hold your breath waiting for that to happen, are
> you, Scott?
Well, according to other RBR threads, you can at least give up on hell
freezing over first...
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com > wrote in message
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> In article
> <2624d7df-2b46-462a-97e2-f9bc19513cd2@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> Scott <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [Responding to TK]
>
>> C'mon, man, lighten up.
>
> You aren't going to hold your breath waiting for that to happen, are
> you, Scott?
>
> --
> tanx,
> Howard
>
> Safe when used as directed...
>
> remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 13:52:36
From: Scott
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 16, 2:04 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a5c5b7ec-b3f9-40d8-ae2c-becf06f1eb90@a28g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
>
> > On Nov 15, 6:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:b23698ce-a499-4511-82ff-4ebad3e99621@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Nov 13, 1:11 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> >> One thing that I find incredibly urksome about Andy is that he never
> >> >> mentions the fact that Bob Roll brought him up the warm clothes -
> >> >> actually running him down on the climb up the Gavia and that Bob was
> >> >> one of the very few actual finishers of that stage.
>
> >> >> I always wonder if Andy and he had some sort of disagreement that
> >> >> caused Andy to never mention him. Hell, Lance mentioned Roll!- Hide
> >> >> quoted text -
>
> >> > Well, since the only time you hear mention of Roll bringing warm
> >> > clothes up to Hampsten is when ROLL himself tells the story, maybe
> >> > he's not remembering it the way Hampsten and everyone else remembers
> >> > it. It may not be as much a 'fact' as Roll would have us believe.
>
> >> It is a fact that Roll was one of the half dozen or so to finish that
> >> stage
> >> in the saddle.
>
> > True. Roll finished the stage. Doesn't mean he was as instrumental
> > in delivering clothing to Hampsten as he leads folks to believe. Ask
> > yourself, considering Hampsten's well-deserved reputation as a climber
> > and Roll's not so great climbing prowess, how did Roll climb UP to
> > Hampsten to bring him clothing? Wouldn't it have been easier to leave
> > the clothing in the team car and have them deliver it to him?
>
> Ask yourself how Bob Roll held most of the hill climb records around
> California including a VERY competitive Mt. Diablo record that stood for a
> decade or more.
>
> I suggest that you have some ulterior motive for trying to belittle Roll.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I suggest that you're an argumentative idiot. I don't give half a
damn about Roll, or Hampsten, or why Hampsten doesn't give more props
to Roll, or whatever.
You first mentioned your concern over Hampsten not mentioning Roll
when he speaks of that day on the Gavia. I merely mentioned it may
not be the case that the events of the day happened quite the way Roll
recalls them. Maybe the events played out exactly the way Roll
recalls them. Perhaps its a case of your memory of the way Roll
recalls them that's hazy. I don't know. I don't care.
I damn sure don't mean to belittle Roll and certainly wouldn't have
ulterior motives for doing so. If I cared half a rat fart about Bob
Roll and thought it necessary to belittle him, I'd be perfectly clear
on my motives. The fact is, I don't care about Roll and I'm not
belittling him.
Okay, wait... in all honesty, I am peeved by his incessant
mispronounciation of Tour DAY France, which may have been funny to
some when he first did it, but which has long worn out any humor value
it ever had.
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 17:55:07
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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"Scott" <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:a87d1452-1d9a-456c-b39c-458c0ffb1f5b@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> I suggest that you're an argumentative idiot. I don't give half a
> damn about Roll, or Hampsten, or why Hampsten doesn't give more props
> to Roll, or whatever.
And yet you call Roll a liar. Interesting indeed.
> You first mentioned your concern over Hampsten not mentioning Roll
> when he speaks of that day on the Gavia. I merely mentioned it may
> not be the case that the events of the day happened quite the way Roll
> recalls them.
Right, the most monumental stage in history and he doesn't remember it the
way it happened. Can you grow smaller yet?
> I damn sure don't mean to belittle Roll
Oh, wait - you mean you simply wanted to belittle me? Hey, at 6'4" and 200
lbs I could stand a little belittling. I'd even appreciate it. But instead
you've managed to make yourself smaller.
> Okay, wait... in all honesty, I am peeved by his incessant
> mispronounciation of Tour DAY France, which may have been funny to
> some when he first did it, but which has long worn out any humor value
> it ever had.
My, you grow more adult by the word count.
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 06:55:10
From: Scott
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 15, 6:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com > wrote:
> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b23698ce-a499-4511-82ff-4ebad3e99621@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 13, 1:11 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> One thing that I find incredibly urksome about Andy is that he never
> >> mentions the fact that Bob Roll brought him up the warm clothes -
> >> actually running him down on the climb up the Gavia and that Bob was
> >> one of the very few actual finishers of that stage.
>
> >> I always wonder if Andy and he had some sort of disagreement that
> >> caused Andy to never mention him. Hell, Lance mentioned Roll!- Hide
> >> quoted text -
>
> > Well, since the only time you hear mention of Roll bringing warm
> > clothes up to Hampsten is when ROLL himself tells the story, maybe
> > he's not remembering it the way Hampsten and everyone else remembers
> > it. It may not be as much a 'fact' as Roll would have us believe.
>
> It is a fact that Roll was one of the half dozen or so to finish that stage
> in the saddle.
True. Roll finished the stage. Doesn't mean he was as instrumental
in delivering clothing to Hampsten as he leads folks to believe. Ask
yourself, considering Hampsten's well-deserved reputation as a climber
and Roll's not so great climbing prowess, how did Roll climb UP to
Hampsten to bring him clothing? Wouldn't it have been easier to leave
the clothing in the team car and have them deliver it to him?
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Date: 16 Nov 2007 13:04:06
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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"Scott" <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:a5c5b7ec-b3f9-40d8-ae2c-becf06f1eb90@a28g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 15, 6:30 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
>> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b23698ce-a499-4511-82ff-4ebad3e99621@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Nov 13, 1:11 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> One thing that I find incredibly urksome about Andy is that he never
>> >> mentions the fact that Bob Roll brought him up the warm clothes -
>> >> actually running him down on the climb up the Gavia and that Bob was
>> >> one of the very few actual finishers of that stage.
>>
>> >> I always wonder if Andy and he had some sort of disagreement that
>> >> caused Andy to never mention him. Hell, Lance mentioned Roll!- Hide
>> >> quoted text -
>>
>> > Well, since the only time you hear mention of Roll bringing warm
>> > clothes up to Hampsten is when ROLL himself tells the story, maybe
>> > he's not remembering it the way Hampsten and everyone else remembers
>> > it. It may not be as much a 'fact' as Roll would have us believe.
>>
>> It is a fact that Roll was one of the half dozen or so to finish that
>> stage
>> in the saddle.
>
> True. Roll finished the stage. Doesn't mean he was as instrumental
> in delivering clothing to Hampsten as he leads folks to believe. Ask
> yourself, considering Hampsten's well-deserved reputation as a climber
> and Roll's not so great climbing prowess, how did Roll climb UP to
> Hampsten to bring him clothing? Wouldn't it have been easier to leave
> the clothing in the team car and have them deliver it to him?
Ask yourself how Bob Roll held most of the hill climb records around
California including a VERY competitive Mt. Diablo record that stood for a
decade or more.
I suggest that you have some ulterior motive for trying to belittle Roll.
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Date: 15 Nov 2007 08:41:28
From: Scott
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 13, 1:11 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 13, 9:21 am, WeaselPoopPower <wea...@poop.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Nov 13, 8:01 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >> rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
> > >>> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
> > >> I'm still here.
>
> > > Of course, with global warming, I guess we don't have to worry about
> > > snow.
>
> > Snow or not the sport could use some more epic stages, not as epic as
> > the Gavia perhaps but something that represents the side of the sport
> > that isn't generated by computer, wind tunnel or lab.
>
> > 5 June, 1988 - The Day the Strong Men Criedhttp://www.hampsten.com/Bikes/ClassicRoad/5June.pdf
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5wPEymv-oQ
>
> One thing that I find incredibly urksome about Andy is that he never
> mentions the fact that Bob Roll brought him up the warm clothes -
> actually running him down on the climb up the Gavia and that Bob was
> one of the very few actual finishers of that stage.
>
> I always wonder if Andy and he had some sort of disagreement that
> caused Andy to never mention him. Hell, Lance mentioned Roll!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, since the only time you hear mention of Roll bringing warm
clothes up to Hampsten is when ROLL himself tells the story, maybe
he's not remembering it the way Hampsten and everyone else remembers
it. It may not be as much a 'fact' as Roll would have us believe.
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Date: 15 Nov 2007 17:30:38
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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"Scott" <hendricks_scott@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:b23698ce-a499-4511-82ff-4ebad3e99621@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 13, 1:11 pm, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> One thing that I find incredibly urksome about Andy is that he never
>> mentions the fact that Bob Roll brought him up the warm clothes -
>> actually running him down on the climb up the Gavia and that Bob was
>> one of the very few actual finishers of that stage.
>>
>> I always wonder if Andy and he had some sort of disagreement that
>> caused Andy to never mention him. Hell, Lance mentioned Roll!- Hide
>> quoted text -
>
> Well, since the only time you hear mention of Roll bringing warm
> clothes up to Hampsten is when ROLL himself tells the story, maybe
> he's not remembering it the way Hampsten and everyone else remembers
> it. It may not be as much a 'fact' as Roll would have us believe.
It is a fact that Roll was one of the half dozen or so to finish that stage
in the saddle.
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Date: 14 Nov 2007 14:32:20
From:
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 13, 3:12 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com >
wrote:
> This thread makes me miss the days when RBR was about bike racing.
>
> Will it actually be that I should look forward to July and the Tour of
> France newbie posting spike?
Go check the archives for November of the years when you thought RBR
was about bike racing.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 12:12:40
From:
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 13, 11:10 am, tacos <tacos.300...@no-
mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au > wrote:
> I have never climbed the backside of Mt.Hamilton I am famileur with the
> twisty downhill to Grants Ranch as for Seirra Rd if they climb it I
> don't envey them the climb hurts
The back side of Hamilton makes Sierra Rd look like a small bump in
the road.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 12:11:40
From:
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 13, 9:21 am, WeaselPoopPower <wea...@poop.ca > wrote:
> rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Nov 13, 8:01 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >> rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
> >>> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
> >> I'm still here.
>
> > Of course, with global warming, I guess we don't have to worry about
> > snow.
>
> Snow or not the sport could use some more epic stages, not as epic as
> the Gavia perhaps but something that represents the side of the sport
> that isn't generated by computer, wind tunnel or lab.
>
> 5 June, 1988 - The Day the Strong Men Criedhttp://www.hampsten.com/Bikes/ClassicRoad/5June.pdf
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5wPEymv-oQ
One thing that I find incredibly urksome about Andy is that he never
mentions the fact that Bob Roll brought him up the warm clothes -
actually running him down on the climb up the Gavia and that Bob was
one of the very few actual finishers of that stage.
I always wonder if Andy and he had some sort of disagreement that
caused Andy to never mention him. Hell, Lance mentioned Roll!
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 10:26:32
From: Scott
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 13, 8:57 am, rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 13, 7:11 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
> wrote:
>
> > stage 3: serious upgrade from last year: through Patterson,
> >Del Puerto Canyon Road (steep climb) to the junction, San
> > Antonio Valley Road (quite steep) to Mt Hamilton summit [...]
> > Sierra Road
>
> This has always been the "obvious" route for a challenging stage in
> Northern California, but the February date sometimes makes it iffy.
> I've had an end-of-April ride up Hamilton from that side side
> shortened due to snow. OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
Not to put too fine a point on things, but Hampsten didn't win that
day on the Gavia. That honor goes to E.Bruekink. Hampstend did
effectively win the Giro that day, though.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 21:19:27
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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rechung wrote:
>> This has always been the "obvious" route for a challenging stage in
>> Northern California, but the February date sometimes makes it iffy. I've
>> had an end-of-April ride up Hamilton from that side side shortened due
>> to snow. OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win like Hampsten's
>> over the Gavia.
Scott wrote:
> Not to put too fine a point on things, but Hampsten didn't win that day on
> the Gavia.
We like putting a fine point on Ewoud.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 08:59:53
From: Mark Fennell
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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Dan Connelly wrote:
> stage 3: serious upgrade from last year:
Hamilton from the backside. Wow!
> It's too bad about that long run-in, but the addition of a second 1st
> category
> climb (replacing Patterson Pass) is going to be really interesting.
Personally, I thought that chase (not sure if it was this year or 2006) into
SJ was pretty exciting. Now the descent down the Hamilton will be crazy even
though it's a ways from the finish.
> I've ridden all of these roads west of Patterson.
Is Del Puerto Cyn in good shape?
> stage 7: big upgrade, but the finishing circuits will neutralize the
> mountain pass
You may be right, but I wouldn't be surprised if the total climbing in stage
7 is more than stage 3 or at least close to it. I've ridden a lot of those
roads between Santa Clarita and Angeles Crest and there are quite a few ups
and downs... it's not just a single pass.
Mark
http://marcofanelli.blogspot.com
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 08:16:30
From:
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On Nov 13, 8:01 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid >
wrote:
> rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
> > OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
> > like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
>
> I'm still here.
Of course, with global warming, I guess we don't have to worry about
snow.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 11:21:30
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 13, 8:01 am, Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
> wrote:
>> rechungREMOVET...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
>>> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
>> I'm still here.
>=20
> Of course, with global warming, I guess we don't have to worry about
> snow.
>=20
Snow or not the sport could use some more epic stages, not as epic as=20
the Gavia perhaps but something that represents the side of the sport=20
that isn't generated by computer, wind tunnel or lab.
5 June, 1988 =96 The Day the Strong Men Cried
http://www.hampsten.com/Bikes/ClassicRoad/5June.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dy5wPEymv-oQ
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 12:10:50
From: tacos
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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I have never climbed the backside of Mt.Hamilton I am famileur with the
twisty downhill to Grants Ranch as for Seirra Rd if they climb it I
don't envey them the climb hurts
--
tacos
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 15:57:14
From:
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Nov 13, 7:11 am, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m >
wrote:
> stage 3: serious upgrade from last year: through Patterson,
>Del Puerto Canyon Road (steep climb) to the junction, San
> Antonio Valley Road (quite steep) to Mt Hamilton summit [...]
> Sierra Road
This has always been the "obvious" route for a challenging stage in
Northern California, but the February date sometimes makes it iffy.
I've had an end-of-April ride up Hamilton from that side side
shortened due to snow. OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 17:01:47
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
I'm still here.
--
E. Dronkert
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Date: 13 Nov 2007 18:12:21
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:47 +0100, Ewoud Dronkert
<firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:
>rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
>> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
>> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
>
>I'm still here.
This thread makes me miss the days when RBR was about bike racing.
Will it actually be that I should look forward to July and the Tour of
France newbie posting spike?
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Date: 14 Nov 2007 00:29:49
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: epic stage 3 in TOC
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>>> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
>>> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
>>
>>I'm still here.
>
> This thread makes me miss the days when RBR was about bike racing.
>
> Will it actually be that I should look forward to July and the Tour of
> France newbie posting spike?
It's not just the newbies that create the traditional TdF posting spike
though. Quite a few of the grizzled vets spend a lot more time on RBR at
that time of year than normal, probably because they have other priorities
that keep them from spending too much time here, but the 'Tour is the 'Tour,
after all. It's that 3-week period of time that your wife can just barely
tolerate nearly every single conversation that you want to have be about
cycling, because she knows it's stupid to think it could be otherwise. You
couldn't stretch that out to the full calendar of racing, nor is it as easy
to focus on a "lesser" event, because being a 'Tour widow is something she
can actually tell non-cycling friends, and have a chance of some degree of
understanding.
Not that I'm speaking for personal experience here...
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote in message
news:uobkj352eajijvv41d7vdlt8abf0nh584k@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:01:47 +0100, Ewoud Dronkert
> <firstname@lastname.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>rechungREMOVETHIS@gmail.com wrote:
>>> OTOH, it could set the stage for a fabulous win
>>> like Hampsten's over the Gavia.
>>
>>I'm still here.
>
> This thread makes me miss the days when RBR was about bike racing.
>
> Will it actually be that I should look forward to July and the Tour of
> France newbie posting spike?
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