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Date: 29 Apr 2007 07:34:53
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: how to time a stage race
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2007/apr07/virginia07/virginia075
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 07:10:31
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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In article <xUXYh.18013$Kd3.3947@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net >,
Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m > wrote:
> ????
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/2007/apr07/virginia07/virginia075
What am I missing here? Winning by 12s in 5 stages?
ohhh...the timings seem to have been done to the nearest second, with no
accommodation for the pack receiving the same time.
They probably just do that to make the finishing sprints more terrifying.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 20:39:32
From: Stu Fleming
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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> ohhh...the timings seem to have been done to the nearest second, with no
> accommodation for the pack receiving the same time.
Hey, the rules say that if there's a gap between wheels, that's a
second. Someone obviously just got anal about it...
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 21:18:43
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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In article <4635aa45$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz >,
Stu Fleming <stewart@wic.co.nz > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> >
> > ohhh...the timings seem to have been done to the nearest second, with no
> > accommodation for the pack receiving the same time.
>
> Hey, the rules say that if there's a gap between wheels, that's a
> second. Someone obviously just got anal about it...
Really? I was under the impression that the usual standard was less than
2s between riders crossing the line meant they were grouped, until the
first 2s gap.
However, where I got that impression I'm not sure.
Could be worse. Around here, they're really anal about knee warmers and
knickers (leggings are okay in cold weather, but what constitutes cold
seems to be a bit open to interpretation. A year or two ago one of the
commissaires forced people to remove knee-warmers and _leggings_ at the
start of a wet race, because it was mid-summer and not theoretically
cold enough to permit leggings or tights.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 01 May 2007 09:35:27
From: Kyle Legate
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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> Could be worse. Around here, they're really anal about knee warmers and
> knickers (leggings are okay in cold weather, but what constitutes cold
> seems to be a bit open to interpretation. A year or two ago one of the
> commissaires forced people to remove knee-warmers and _leggings_ at the
> start of a wet race, because it was mid-summer and not theoretically
> cold enough to permit leggings or tights.
What's the rationale behind that rule? I always wear knee warmers until
it's 20C out because, in my experience, if I show my knees in April,
they hurt in August. How can a governing body dictate that you cannot
wear an item of clothing that you wear in the interests of your own
health? Besides, like gloves and socks, knee warmers/leggings provide
protection in the event of a crash and in that respect should be encouraged.
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Date: 01 May 2007 13:51:31
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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In article <59o8tvF2ltq3tU1@mid.individual.net >,
Kyle Legate <legatek@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >
> > Could be worse. Around here, they're really anal about knee warmers and
> > knickers (leggings are okay in cold weather, but what constitutes cold
> > seems to be a bit open to interpretation. A year or two ago one of the
> > commissaires forced people to remove knee-warmers and _leggings_ at the
> > start of a wet race, because it was mid-summer and not theoretically
> > cold enough to permit leggings or tights.
>
>
> What's the rationale behind that rule? I always wear knee warmers until
> it's 20C out because, in my experience, if I show my knees in April,
> they hurt in August. How can a governing body dictate that you cannot
> wear an item of clothing that you wear in the interests of your own
> health? Besides, like gloves and socks, knee warmers/leggings provide
> protection in the event of a crash and in that respect should be encouraged.
I think it is partly a "black socks" rule, but the more recent
justification (and reason for the crackdown) is the existence of these
new "compression" fabrics that claim to, I don't know, circulate your
blood for your muscles or something, and basically provide a performance
enhancement. That was the rationale I have heard, at least.
So I guess this way only the thighs get the benefit,
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Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 18:43:51
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:18:43 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
ever, where I got that impression I'm not sure.
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>Could be worse. Around here, they're really anal about knee warmers and
>knickers (leggings are okay in cold weather, but what constitutes cold
>seems to be a bit open to interpretation. A year or two ago one of the
>commissaires forced people to remove knee-warmers and _leggings_ at the
>start of a wet race, because it was mid-summer and not theoretically
>cold enough to permit leggings or tights.
Is the word "jobsworth"?
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Date: 01 May 2007 13:17:18
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: how to time a stage race
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In article <h8sc33dmi2ku0ln58avqf97q0doikrrlo0@4ax.com >,
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:18:43 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
> ever, where I got that impression I'm not sure.
> >
> >Could be worse. Around here, they're really anal about knee warmers and
> >knickers (leggings are okay in cold weather, but what constitutes cold
> >seems to be a bit open to interpretation. A year or two ago one of the
> >commissaires forced people to remove knee-warmers and _leggings_ at the
> >start of a wet race, because it was mid-summer and not theoretically
> >cold enough to permit leggings or tights.
>
> Is the word "jobsworth"?
Heh. I had to look that one up, but in fairness, I don't think this was
some power trip, I think it was that the local commissaires have a
culture of pretty strict interpretation of the rules.
UCI sanctioned race and all that.
I have heard the rationale for the relatively recent rules (which say,
in short, that bike racing is to be done in shorts and a sleeved jersey,
never sleeveless, and that tights are only permitted in bad weather),
but I still think it's a mediocre rule.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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