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Date: 17 Dec 2006 03:41:18
From: Burt
Subject: journal: strenuous exercise creates false positives for rEPO test
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http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2006/12/wow-this-sucks-for-wada_17.html
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:27:51
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: you got your chocolate in my peanut butter - false positives for rEPO test
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Davey Crockett wrote:
> "dustoyevsky@mac.com" <dustoyevsky@mac.com> writes:
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> > CowPunk wrote:
> >
> > > The only fair solution is to start having each sample sent out to
> > > multiple labs(min 3) for
> > > analysis and then comparing the results.
> >
> > There is no "solution".
> >
>
> Get Sherlock.
>
> He solves every case
>
> Hes said to have the "Seven Percent Solution"
But what about the other 93% of all the guys who are all doping?
Calling a fictional character for resolution has good resonance, IMHO.
--D-y
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 08:00:30
From: dustoyevsky@mac.com
Subject: Re: Re:you got your chocolate in my peanut butter - false positives for rEPO test
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CowPunk wrote:
> The only fair solution is to start having each sample sent out to
> multiple labs(min 3) for
> analysis and then comparing the results.
There is no "solution".
There might be "fairer" or "less stupid" ways to run the show. --D-y
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 17:08:19
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: you got your chocolate in my peanut butter - false positives for rEPO test
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"dustoyevsky@mac.com" <dustoyevsky@mac.com > writes:
> CowPunk wrote:
>
> > The only fair solution is to start having each sample sent out to
> > multiple labs(min 3) for
> > analysis and then comparing the results.
>
> There is no "solution".
>
Get Sherlock.
He solves every case
Hes said to have the "Seven Percent Solution"
--
Le vent à Dos
Davey Crockett [No 4Q to reply]
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 17:14:46
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: you got your chocolate in my peanut butter - false positives for rEPO test
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In article <87ac1jyiks.fsf@azurservers.com >,
Davey Crockett <daveycrockett4Q@azurservers.com > wrote:
> "dustoyevsky@mac.com" <dustoyevsky@mac.com> writes:
>
> > CowPunk wrote:
> >
> > > The only fair solution is to start having each sample sent out to
> > > multiple labs(min 3) for
> > > analysis and then comparing the results.
> >
> > There is no "solution".
> >
>
> Get Sherlock.
>
> He solves every case
>
> Hes said to have the "Seven Percent Solution"
Cocaine is a WADA-banned substance.
And probably even performance-enhancing,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 10:39:17
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: you got your chocolate in my peanut butter - false positives for rEPO test
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:14:46 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
>In article <87ac1jyiks.fsf@azurservers.com>,
> Davey Crockett <daveycrockett4Q@azurservers.com> wrote:
>
>> "dustoyevsky@mac.com" <dustoyevsky@mac.com> writes:
>>
>> > CowPunk wrote:
>> >
>> > > The only fair solution is to start having each sample sent out to
>> > > multiple labs(min 3) for
>> > > analysis and then comparing the results.
>> >
>> > There is no "solution".
>> >
>>
>> Get Sherlock.
>>
>> He solves every case
>>
>> Hes said to have the "Seven Percent Solution"
>
>Cocaine is a WADA-banned substance.
>
>And probably even performance-enhancing,
It and caffeine are about the only stimulants that don't ruin your reaction
time.
Ron
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 20:46:41
From: CowPunk
Subject: Re:you got your chocolate in my peanut butter - false positives for rEPO test
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nobody wrote:
> http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/DelangheReport.html
I like this line:
"It is well known in clinical chemistry that the vast majority of
so-called ?laboratory errors? originate in the pre-analytical phase
(the phase prior to the analysis of the sample)."
i.e. sneezing, hacking, breathing, picking his nose, combing his hair,
talking, or
can you say, "you got your chocolate in my peanut butter.", while
diluting the sample
in an open lab prior to analysis.
Picture this. Joe the lab guy was snorting Vicks sinus inhaler all
night because he
ran out of sick days, which he used to go skiing last winter. He's
working on your sample
and "achew", he sneezes. Now, what do you think the odds are that the
sample will
test positive for say 0.0001 of a banned substance? Care to place your
career on that?
IMHO
The only fair solution is to start having each sample sent out to
multiple labs(min 3) for
analysis and then comparing the results.
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 12:57:04
From: MMan
Subject: Re: journal: strenuous exercise creates false positives for rEPO test
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Burt wrote:
> http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2006/12/wow-this-sucks-for-wada_17.html
WADA will now ban strenuous exercise.
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 10:37:27
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: journal: strenuous exercise creates false positives for rEPO test
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On 18 Dec 2006 12:57:04 -0800, "MMan" <mman37x@cs.com > wrote:
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>Burt wrote:
>> http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2006/12/wow-this-sucks-for-wada_17.html
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>WADA will now ban strenuous exercise.
It does give some an advantage over those like myself who refrain from such
unnatural performance enhancing techniques.
Ron
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 21:12:43
From: Dan Connelly
Subject: Re: journal: strenuous exercise creates false positives for rEPO
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MMan wrote:
> Burt wrote:
>> http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2006/12/wow-this-sucks-for-wada_17.html
>
> WADA will now ban strenuous exercise.
>
http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/full/108/5/1778
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 18:47:04
From: Steven L. Sheffield
Subject: Re: journal: strenuous exercise creates false positives for rEPO
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On 12/18/06 2:12 PM, in article
evDhh.34715$wP1.16540@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net, "Dan Connelly"
<d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o.c_o_m > wrote:
> MMan wrote:
>> Burt wrote:
>>>
http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2006/12/wow-this-sucks-for-wada_17.htm >>>
l
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>> WADA will now ban strenuous exercise.
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> http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/full/108/5/1778
Hmmm ... Is it any surprise that the director of a WADA sanctioned
laboratory would say that WADA tests are flawless?
--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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Date: 18 Dec 2006 16:23:32
From: nobody
Subject: Re: journal: strenuous exercise creates false positives for rEPO test
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:12:43 GMT, Dan Connelly
<d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o.c_o_m > wrote:
>MMan wrote:
>> Burt wrote:
>>> http://doucheblogcycling.blogspot.com/2006/12/wow-this-sucks-for-wada_17.html
>>
>> WADA will now ban strenuous exercise.
>>
>http://www.bloodjournal.org/cgi/content/full/108/5/1778
http://veloptimum.net/courses/athletes/Jeanson/E/6/DelangheReport.html
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