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Date: 19 Oct 2007 14:59:46
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Subject: questions to enter races
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I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
likes.
I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/will-bicycling-to-work-get-you-killed/
LYNDA
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Date: 24 Oct 2007 15:40:24
From: amit.ghosh@gmail.com
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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On Oct 24, 9:25 am, cyclin...@gmail.com wrote:
> And this is from CANADIANS who value themselves as the most
> intelligent and logical people on the planet.
and the best dancers too.
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Date: 24 Oct 2007 06:28:24
From:
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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On Oct 22, 11:52 am, WeaselPoopPower <wea...@poop.ca > wrote:
>
> I started on the internet before AOL is well, what is such a big deal
> about that? You me
> Kunich and possibly a few others. What I find interesting about some of
> the most vocal opponents of AOL is that they themselves contributed to
> it's inevitable creation through elitist behavior and truly believing
> that only someone as intelligent as themselves could ever use something
> so intricate and complicated as "the internet".
Proof that you're a liar and a fraud. You really haven't a clue what
the internet was do you?
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Date: 24 Oct 2007 06:25:41
From:
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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On Oct 22, 9:25 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net > wrote:
> WeaselPoopPower <wea...@poop.ca> wrote:
>
> > and all those who send props Gores way are
> > what, AOL using idiots?
>
> Stooges and shills.
I have to say, Michael, that you're a great deal kinder than I would
be. Imagine the morons who think that AOL was the start of the
internet telling us how the world revolves around Al Gore and his
theories of Global Warming Castastrophe!
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm
"Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James
Cook University, in Australia gives what, for many Canadians, is a
surprising assessment: "Gore's circumstantial arguments are so weak
that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his
film, are commanding public attention.""
And this is from CANADIANS who value themselves as the most
intelligent and logical people on the planet.
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 14:09:35
From:
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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On Oct 22, 11:52 am, WeaselPoopPower <wea...@poop.ca > wrote:
>
> too bad pro bike racing has become as lame as politics, and this thread.
Which was my point earlier. We aren't seeing "racing", we're seeing
politicians telling us that the racing isn't "fair". These are the
same guys who say that the very fact that Armstrong never tested
positive proves that he was using drugs.
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 13:31:18
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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bikinglynda@yahoo.com wrote:
> my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
> really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
> know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
> laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
Well, LYNDA, the first thing you've got to do is resolve that
gender confusion thing you've got going. And ideally you'd do
it before you show up at the registration table and have to
tell someone which race you want to do.
Will I see you at the start line in Durand in April? We've
had women show up in the past that would kick your ass, that's
another reason to have it sorted out before then.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 10:51:35
From: Marian
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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On Oct 19, 10:59 pm, bikingly...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
> weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
> about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
> there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
> are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
> almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
> he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
> likes.
I'm in Hainan, PRC.
> I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
> to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
> really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
> know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
> laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
You start by being 14 years old and being bike crazy enough that your
mom and dad look for a coach.
If you are already over the age of 16 you can probably forget about
ever competing professionally.
On the other hand if you possess other useful skills (for example I'm
a Chinese/English English/Chinese translator) you might manage to find
your way into the organizations that hold bike races and get to at
least hang out with the riders and see their cool equipment.
-M
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 13:30:22
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Marian wrote:
> If you are already over the age of 16 you can probably forget about
> ever competing professionally.
Unless you're Ludo Dierckxsens.
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 04:34:19
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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In article <471b384d$0$9715$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Marian wrote:
> > If you are already over the age of 16 you can probably forget about
> > ever competing professionally.
>
> Unless you're Ludo Dierckxsens.
Holy moly...when did he start racing?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 09:17:34
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Marian wrote:
>> > If you are already over the age of 16 you can probably forget about
>> > ever competing professionally.
Donald Munro wrote:
>> Unless you're Ludo Dierckxsens.
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> Holy moly...when did he start racing?
He turned pro at 30 and raced until he was 41 (and won a stage in
the TDF in 1999).
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 18:26:09
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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In article <471c4f37$0$2954$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com >,
Donald Munro <fat-dumbass@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Marian wrote:
> >> > If you are already over the age of 16 you can probably forget about
> >> > ever competing professionally.
>
> Donald Munro wrote:
> >> Unless you're Ludo Dierckxsens.
>
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > Holy moly...when did he start racing?
>
> He turned pro at 30 and raced until he was 41 (and won a stage in
> the TDF in 1999).
Wow. There's hope for me yet.
Well no, not really.
But how did he manage to not be pro until 30?!
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 22:07:36
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Marian wrote:
>> >> > If you are already over the age of 16 you can probably forget about
>> >> > ever competing professionally.
Donald Munro wrote:
>> >> Unless you're Ludo Dierckxsens.
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> > Holy moly...when did he start racing?
Donald Munro wrote:
>> He turned pro at 30 and raced until he was 41 (and won a stage in
>> the TDF in 1999).
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> But how did he manage to not be pro until 30?!
I think he started cycling relatively late, perhaps in his twenties,
and was a top amateur for a while. If Bart was still around he would
probably be able to tell you more (although BART wouldn't have been
much help).
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 02:44:18
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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* bikinglynda@yahoo.com a écrit profondement:
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 08:44:32
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Davey Crockett wrote:
> * bikinglynda@yahoo.com a =E9crit profondement:
>
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 08:13:54
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was INSTRUMENTAL
in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
"WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca > wrote in message
news:3r-dnVYbOeLcm4fanZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Davey Crockett wrote:
> * bikinglynda@yahoo.com a écrit profondement:
>
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 11:19:48
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was still lo=
oking for TK's brain.
Ha perhaps some insight...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/15/opinion/15krugman.html
<snip >
What is it about Mr. Gore that drives right-wingers insane?
Partly it=92s a reaction to what happened in 2000, when the American=20
people chose Mr. Gore but his opponent somehow ended up in the White=20
House. Both the personality cult the right tried to build around=20
President Bush and the often hysterical denigration of Mr. Gore were, I=20
believe, largely motivated by the desire to expunge the stain of=20
illegitimacy from the Bush administration.
And now that Mr. Bush has proved himself utterly the wrong man for the=20
job =97 to be, in fact, the best president Al Qaeda=92s recruiters could =
have hoped for =97 the symptoms of Gore derangement syndrome have grown=20
even more extreme.
The worst thing about Mr. Gore, from the conservative point of view, is=20
that he keeps being right. In 1992, George H. W. Bush mocked him as the=20
=93ozone man,=94 but three years later the scientists who discovered the =
threat to the ozone layer won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. In 2002 he=20
warned that if we invaded Iraq, =93the resulting chaos could easily pose =
a=20
far greater danger to the United States than we presently face from=20
Saddam.=94 And so it has proved.
But Gore hatred is more than personal. When National Review decided to=20
name its anti-environmental blog Planet Gore, it was trying to discredit =
the message as well as the messenger. For the truth Mr. Gore has been=20
telling about how human activities are changing the climate isn=92t just =
inconvenient. For conservatives, it=92s deeply threatening.
</snip >
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 12:56:47
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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"WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca > wrote in message
news:aN6dnTSwDZk5t4fanZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@comcast.com...
What is it about Mr. Gore that drives right-wingers insane?
Partly it's a reaction to what happened in 2000, when the American
people chose Mr. Gore but his opponent somehow ended up in the White
House.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, it is a great laugh that you actually believe that sort of thing. I'm
betting you also believe in UFO's, that Bill Clinton didn't have anything to
do with the Mena Massacre and that Hillary is a deep thinking honorable
person who ought to be President.
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 23:48:33
From: Howard Kveck
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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In article <13hknc41aq96nd1@corp.supernews.com >, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com>
wrote:
> [I'm betting you also believe that Bill Clinton didn't have anything to do] with
> the Mena Massacre [...]
Hahaha! What a nutcase.
--
tanx,
Howard
Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 18:05:13
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> Well, it is a great laugh that you actually believe that sort of thing. I'm
> betting you also believe in UFO's,
Where on earth do you think the blue cooler boxes came from ?
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 09:17:10
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> "WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca> wrote in message
> news:aN6dnTSwDZk5t4fanZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@comcast.com...
> What is it about Mr. Gore that drives right-wingers insane?
>
> Partly it's a reaction to what happened in 2000, when the American
> people chose Mr. Gore but his opponent somehow ended up in the White
> House.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Well, it is a great laugh that you actually believe that sort of thing.
> I'm betting you also believe in UFO's, that Bill Clinton didn't have
> anything to do with the Mena Massacre and that Hillary is a deep
> thinking honorable person who ought to be President.
>
>
Thanks for keeping this group mildly entertaining. Despite that fact
folks like you are what ruined usenet from day one, this group is so sad
these days you're about all thats left.
Peace, ride hard and enjoy life
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 09:21:03
From: Carl Sundquist
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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"WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca > wrote in message
news:74OdnVe_JdP6wobanZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> "WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca> wrote in message
>> news:aN6dnTSwDZk5t4fanZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@comcast.com...
>> What is it about Mr. Gore that drives right-wingers insane?
>>
>> Partly it's a reaction to what happened in 2000, when the American
>> people chose Mr. Gore but his opponent somehow ended up in the White
>> House.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Well, it is a great laugh that you actually believe that sort of thing.
>> I'm betting you also believe in UFO's, that Bill Clinton didn't have
>> anything to do with the Mena Massacre and that Hillary is a deep thinking
>> honorable person who ought to be President.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for keeping this group mildly entertaining. Despite that fact folks
> like you are what ruined usenet from day one, this group is so sad these
> days you're about all thats left.
That's not a fact, that's an opinion. When you're attacking someone, you
should know the difference.
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 16:18:08
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> "WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca> wrote in message
> news:74OdnVe_JdP6wobanZ2dnUVZ_rWtnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> "WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:aN6dnTSwDZk5t4fanZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> What is it about Mr. Gore that drives right-wingers insane?
>>>
>>> Partly it's a reaction to what happened in 2000, when the American
>>> people chose Mr. Gore but his opponent somehow ended up in the White
>>> House.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Well, it is a great laugh that you actually believe that sort of
>>> thing. I'm betting you also believe in UFO's, that Bill Clinton
>>> didn't have anything to do with the Mena Massacre and that Hillary is
>>> a deep thinking honorable person who ought to be President.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for keeping this group mildly entertaining. Despite that fact
>> folks like you are what ruined usenet from day one, this group is so
>> sad these days you're about all thats left.
>
> That's not a fact, that's an opinion. When you're attacking someone, you
> should know the difference.
Sorry, TK is mildly entertaining. It's a fact.
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 11:10:36
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was=20
> INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock=20
among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read =
this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are=20
intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone=20
else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the=20
internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
Leonard Kleinrock (ARPANET the worlds first switched network was=20
developed in his lab circa 1969)
http://www.lk.cs.ucla.edu/PS/paper224.pdf
"A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al =
Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted=20
legislation that resulted in President George Bush signing the High=20
Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated=20
$600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the=20
National Research and Education Network [13=9614]. The NREN brought=20
together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to=20
accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking."
Robert Kahn (inventor of TCP/IP protocol) and Vinton Cerf (one of the=20
"Founding Fathers" of the internet)
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0009/msg00311.html
[Originally To: Declan McCullaugh <declan {AT} well.com >, farber {AT}=20
cis.upenn.edu
Cc: rkahn {AT} cnri.reston.va.us]
Dave and Declan,
I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief summary of Al
Gore's Internet involvement, prepared by Bob Kahn and me. As you know,
there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice
president for his assertion that he "took the initiative in creating the
Internet."
Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for=
his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet.
I thought you might find this short summary of sufficient interest to
share it with Politech and the IP lists, respectively.
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Al Gore and the Internet
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf
Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the=
Internet and to promote and support its development.
No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people=
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, t=
o
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role=
=2E
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people hav=
e
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,=
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving=
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel i=
t
is timely to offer our perspective.
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed=
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impac=
t
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily=
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was stil=
l
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.
As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secure=
d
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.
As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as=
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencie=
s
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of th=
e
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.
There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this=
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.
The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value=
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to America=
n
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
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WorldCom
22001 Loudoun County Parkway
Building F2, Room 4115, ATTN: Vint Cerf
Ashburn, VA 20147
Telephone (703) 886-1690
FAX (703) 886-0047
"INTERNET IS FOR EVERYONE!"
INET 2001: Internet Global Summit
5-8 June 2001
Sweden International Fairs
Stockholm, Sweden
http://www.isoc.org/inet2001
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_=
technology#The_Webbys
The Webbys
On 06 June 2005, Gore was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award "for=20
three decades of contributions to the Internet" at The Webby Awards. In=20
giving him the award, Tiffany Shlain (the awards' founder and=20
chairwoman) stated that she "wanted to set the record straight [...]=20
it's just one of those instances someone did amazing work for three=20
decades as Congressman, Senator and Vice President and it got spun=20
around into this political mess." [43] Gore, during his acceptance=20
speech (limited to five words according to Webby Awards rules), joked:=20
"Please don't recount this vote". [44]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore_Bill
The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (HPCA) was=20
a bill created and introduced by then Senator Al Gore (it was thus=20
referred to as the Gore Bill [1]). It was passed on December 9, 1991. [2]=
This bill led to the development of the National Research and Education=20
Network (NREN) [3][4][5] (which was referred to with the rhetoric of the =
Information Superhighway[6]). It also led to the development of the=20
National Information Infrastructure (also discussed through the rhetoric =
of the Information Superhighway [7]) the High-Performance Computing and=20
Communications Initiative (an off-shoot of the HPCA), the web browser=20
Mosaic[8], and the creation of a high-speed fiber optic network that,=20
when utilized, would help stimulate the economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_=
technology#White_House_website
White House website
The Clinton-Gore administration launched the first official White House=20
website on 21 October 1994. [21], [22] It would be followed by three=20
more versions, resulting in the final edition launched in 2000.[23],=20
[24] The White House website was part of a general movement by this=20
administration towards web based communication: "Clinton and Gore were=20
responsible for pressing almost all federal agencies, the U.S. court=20
system and the U.S. military onto the Internet, thus opening up=20
America's government to more of America's citizens than ever before. On=20
17 July 1996. President Clinton issued Executive Order 13011 - Federal=20
Information Technology, ordering the heads of all federal agencies to=20
fully utilize information technology to make the information of the=20
agency easily accessible to the public." [25]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_=
technology#Electronic_Bill_of_Rights
Electronic Bill of Rights
In 1998 Gore gave a speech concerning an "Electronic Bill of Rights" in=20
which he introduced methods of protecting privacy in the age of digital=20
technology: "We need an electronic bill of rights for this electronic=20
age," Vice President Gore said in an event in the Roosevelt Room at the=20
White House. "You should have the right to choose whether your personal=20
information is disclosed; you should have the right to know how, when,=20
and how much of that information is being used; and you should have the=20
right to see it yourself, to know if it's accurate." [26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_=
technology#Apple_and_Google
Apple and Google
He has been a member of the board of directors of Apple Inc. since 2003=20
and serves as a Senior Advisor to Google Inc.[42]
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 13:06:18
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
In article
<Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com >,
WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca > wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
> > How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
> > INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
>
> Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
> among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
> this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
> intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
> else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
> internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
Nevertheless, Gore said
"I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet."
What he said is not so.
As for the internet, I and many others were using it
as a tool in day-to-day work well before the time
Gore made AOL possible.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 09:05:11
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca> wrote:
>
>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
>>> INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
>> Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
>> among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
>> this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
>> intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
>> else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
>> internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
>
> Nevertheless, Gore said
> "I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet."
>
> What he said is not so.
That quote is accurate.
He's a politician.
The initial quote in this thread is not.
>
> As for the internet, I and many others were using it
> as a tool in day-to-day work well before the time
> Gore made AOL possible.
Wow really? Man you are cool and all those who send props Gores way are
what, AOL using idiots?
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 16:25:11
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
In article
<vIqdnR2ddLYFwYbanZ2dnUVZ_rSrnZ2d@comcast.com >,
WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > In article
> > <Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
> >>> INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
> >> Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
> >> among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
> >> this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
> >> intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
> >> else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
> >> internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
> >
> > Nevertheless, Gore said
> > "I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet."
> >
> > What he said is not so.
>
> That quote is accurate.
> He's a politician.
> The initial quote in this thread is not.
Among all the quotes testifying to what an important guy
Gore is to the internet you failed to quote exactly what
Gore did say.
What Gore said is a lie. You say he is a politician.
Why? To explain away the lie? Why the long list of
encomiums? Are you a political stooge?
> > As for the internet, I and many others were using it
> > as a tool in day-to-day work well before the time
> > Gore made AOL possible.
>
> Wow really? Man you are cool
Aw, shucks.
> and all those who send props Gores way are
> what, AOL using idiots?
Stooges and shills.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 13:52:42
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <vIqdnR2ddLYFwYbanZ2dnUVZ_rSrnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca> wrote:
>
>> Michael Press wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
>>>>> INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
>>>> Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
>>>> among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
>>>> this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
>>>> intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
>>>> else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
>>>> internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
>>> Nevertheless, Gore said
>>> "I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet."
>>>
>>> What he said is not so.
>> That quote is accurate.
>> He's a politician.
>> The initial quote in this thread is not.
>
> Among all the quotes testifying to what an important guy
> Gore is to the internet you failed to quote exactly what
> Gore did say.
You mean other than my initial posting this correct quote in response to
Davey Crocket that started this TK fest? "During my service in the
United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
and acknowledging the correctly attributed quote just a few lines above?
>
> What Gore said is a lie. You say he is a politician.
> Why? To explain away the lie? Why the long list of
> encomiums? Are you a political stooge?
Politicians talk 24x7. They Lie. They stretch. They do anything it takes
for themselves, their parties and their cau$e$. In turn the media, the
opposing political parties and the shouters take the words and twist,
turn and often respin them into lies themselves for their advantage,
especially in this age of personal attack in lieu of intelligent
discussion. I choose to analyze the words. In this case the claim that
Gore said he "invented" the internet is a spin invented by the
republican party during the 2000 election to discredit Gore, check the
fact that the quote went unnoticed by almost everyone for a full year
but was only drug out and "spun" during the election. Gore did state
that "I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet" which is
chest pounding politician bullshit. So instead of swallowing the medias
load I took a look to see if Gore actually had done anything related to
the internet. Appears he has. Obviously irrelevant to some in these days
where yelling "he's a liar" loud enough somehow supplants actual ideas,
policies and actions.
Whatever... no one I would ever trust to run this country has been nor
will be elected during my lifetime and unfortunately I see it getting
worse not better. BUT IF I SHOUT LIAR enough for MY TEAM it apparently
is supposed to make me feel better, so let me have a few lights beers
and lets nuke them fooking Irainian bastards off the planet!!!
>
>>> As for the internet, I and many others were using it
>>> as a tool in day-to-day work well before the time
>>> Gore made AOL possible.
>> Wow really? Man you are cool
>
> Aw, shucks.
I started on the internet before AOL is well, what is such a big deal
about that? You me
Kunich and possibly a few others. What I find interesting about some of
the most vocal opponents of AOL is that they themselves contributed to
it's inevitable creation through elitist behavior and truly believing
that only someone as intelligent as themselves could ever use something
so intricate and complicated as "the internet". Also helped develop
Microshaft Winblows as market leader...
>
>> and all those who send props Gores way are
>> what, AOL using idiots?
>
> Stooges and shills.
>
Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock are stooges and shills.
Damn.
too bad pro bike racing has become as lame as politics, and this thread. :)
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 01:26:30
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
Michael Press wrote:
> As for the internet, I and many others were using it
> as a tool in day-to-day work well before the time
> Gore made AOL possible.
Gore created AOL ? Perhaps he should be sentenced to a year
in Guantanamo with Kunich and Rush Limbaugh as cellmates.
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 16:14:51
From: GoneBeforeMyTime
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:rubrum-591E6C.13061820102007@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> In article
> <Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> WeaselPoopPower <weasel@poop.ca> wrote:
>
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
> > > INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
> >
> > Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
> > among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
> > this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
> > intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
> > else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
> > internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
>
> Nevertheless, Gore said
> "I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet."
>
> What he said is not so.
>
> As for the internet, I and many others were using it
> as a tool in day-to-day work well before the time
> Gore made AOL possible.
>
> --
> Michael Press
Come on guys and gals, I knew most of this stuff already before my first
lesson on the first day of my Cisco class. I was certified CCNA, but my
license expired, and I haven't renewed it, who cares. I don't! I don't hate
Gore either, but this is a cycling group. Have you been to the computers
groups? Easy to find.
GBMT
--------------------------------
Pay attention:
In 1989 Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web, an internet-based
hypermedia initiative for global information sharing while at CERN, the
European Particle Physics Laboratory. He wrote the first web client and
server in 1990. His specifications of URIs, HTTP and HTML were refined as
Web technology spread. In the beginning, the main users of the Internet were
scientists, academia, and the government. Since that time, a variety of
languages and protocols were developed and have evolved within the
Internet's continually growing structure. Since its first development in
1961, HTML (Hypertext Markup Language) has advanced considerably.
The Internet started in the late 1960s and early 1970s as an experiment by
the U.S. Department of Defense as a way to communicate with its contractors
and researchers at large universities. The government laid cables between
its contractors and created a protocol, which is a set of rules that allow
computers on a network to talk to one another. E-mail and Usenet, a
worldwide bulletin board system that contains newsgroups, were among the
first services developed for the Internet.
In the 1980s, Bitnet, DNS, and NNTP were developed. Bitnet, started as a
cooperative effort at City University of New York, is especially important
in Internet history because it is the first time a part of the Internet was
specifically set aside for activities not specific to military or academic
goals. In 1984, the Domain Name Server (DNS) was introduced, which maps
Internet domain names to IP addresses. Toward the end of the 1980s, parts of
the Internet became available as community or commercial venues.
Technologies such as Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) were designed to
enhance existing news performance.
The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) was created in October 1994 by Tim
Berners-Lee to ensure its interoperability. Today, W3C has more than 500
Member organizations from around the world and has earned international
recognition for its contributions to the growth of the World Wide Web. The
job of the Consortium is to oversee the standardization of HTML, as well as
the various protocols and languages related to the World Wide Web, including
XML, CSS, and SMIL.
HTML was created in 1961.
HTML 2.0 in 1994, 3.0 in 1996, 4.0 in 1997.
1971 - first floppy drive.
Arpanet was commissioned in 1969 and also Unix OS was created.
1972 - came Telnet and FTP
1974 - TCP/IP, and the first international connections to Arpanet.
Microsoft founded in 1975.
Apple founded in 1976.
Compuserve was founded in 1979.
1977 - Email
1978 - BBS
1979 - Usenet
SGI founded in 1981
1981 - IBM PC/DOS
1982 - NSFNET upgraded to 1.5 Mbps and then 56k.
EUNet connected European cities.
Arpanet stopped around 1983.
Apple Lisa, first graphical inteface created in 1983.
Macintosh releashed in 1984.
Microsoft Windows in 1986.
First Micropressors, which I have one, the old IBM 8088. (1983)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PC_XT
First hard drive in 1983.
Domain name servers were introduced in 1984.
AOL founded 1990.
First Laptop computer in 1990.
NSFNET upgraded to 44.7 Mbps in 1991.
WWW invented in 1991.
In 1991 NSF allowed commercial use of the internet.
Mosiac came in 1992 which I remember well pulling my hair out!
InterNIC created in 1993.
Pentium in 1993.
Netscape came in 1995.
Also IE 1.0 came in 1995.
Organzations...
ISOC
The Internet Society (ISOC) is a non-governmental, non-profit organization
dedicated to maintaining and enhancing the Internet. Through its affiliated
organizations, such as the Internet Advisory Board (IAB) and the Internet
Engineering Task Force (IETF), ISOC is responsible for developing and
approving new Internet standards and protocols.
IAB
The IAB (Internet Architecture Board) is the technical advisory group of
ISOC that oversees the evolution of the Internet. The IAB supervises the
Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), the Internet Research Task Force
(IRTF), and the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA).
IETF
The IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) is the body that defines standard
Internet operating protocols, such as TCP/IP. The IETF is a large
international community of network designers, operators, vendors, and
researchers concerned with the evolution of the Internet architecture and
the smooth operation of the Internet. Standards are expressed in the form of
Requests For Comments (RFCs).
IRTF
The IRTF (Internet Research Task Force), under the direction of IAB, works
to develop new network technologies.
IANA
IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) is responsible for assigning
domain names, IP addresses, and protocol numbers.
ICANN
ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) is a private,
non-profit corporation that is responsible for IP addressing, space
allocation, protocol parameter assignment, domain name system management,
and root system server management functions.
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 12:54:57
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
You really are stupid and mindless - I was using the internet LONG before
1991. This newsgroup was operation long before then.
But don't let facts get in the way of a political belief system.
Al Gore was SOMEWHAT supportive of an expansion bill and of course the
people like you who are far more interested in political points than truth
will make whatever you like of it. The fact is that the government should
never have gotten involved in the internet since it was supposed to be
purely educational and was supported by colleges and universities. After Al
Gore's BS we are now blessed with spam, viruses, and every other useless
waste of taxpayer's money.
Bet you're a porn buyer and so love the Al Gore version of the internet.
"WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca > wrote in message
news:Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com...
Tom Kunich wrote:
> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
> INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
Leonard Kleinrock (ARPANET the worlds first switched network was
developed in his lab circa 1969)
http://www.lk.cs.ucla.edu/PS/paper224.pdf
"A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al
Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted
legislation that resulted in President George Bush signing the High
Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated
$600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the
National Research and Education Network [13-14]. The NREN brought
together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to
accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking."
Robert Kahn (inventor of TCP/IP protocol) and Vinton Cerf (one of the
"Founding Fathers" of the internet)
http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0009/msg00311.html
[Originally To: Declan McCullaugh <declan {AT} well.com >, farber {AT}
cis.upenn.edu
Cc: rkahn {AT} cnri.reston.va.us]
Dave and Declan,
I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief summary of Al
Gore's Internet involvement, prepared by Bob Kahn and me. As you know,
there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice
president for his assertion that he "took the initiative in creating the
Internet."
Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for
his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet.
I thought you might find this short summary of sufficient interest to
share it with Politech and the IP lists, respectively.
==============================================================
Al Gore and the Internet
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf
Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.
No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.
As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.
As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.
There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.
The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
Version 1.2
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WorldCom
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Building F2, Room 4115, ATTN: Vint Cerf
Ashburn, VA 20147
Telephone (703) 886-1690
FAX (703) 886-0047
"INTERNET IS FOR EVERYONE!"
INET 2001: Internet Global Summit
5-8 June 2001
Sweden International Fairs
Stockholm, Sweden
http://www.isoc.org/inet2001
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#The_Webbys
The Webbys
On 06 June 2005, Gore was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award "for
three decades of contributions to the Internet" at The Webby Awards. In
giving him the award, Tiffany Shlain (the awards' founder and
chairwoman) stated that she "wanted to set the record straight [...]
it's just one of those instances someone did amazing work for three
decades as Congressman, Senator and Vice President and it got spun
around into this political mess." [43] Gore, during his acceptance
speech (limited to five words according to Webby Awards rules), joked:
"Please don't recount this vote". [44]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore_Bill
The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (HPCA) was
a bill created and introduced by then Senator Al Gore (it was thus
referred to as the Gore Bill [1]). It was passed on December 9, 1991. [2]
This bill led to the development of the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) [3][4][5] (which was referred to with the rhetoric of the
Information Superhighway[6]). It also led to the development of the
National Information Infrastructure (also discussed through the rhetoric
of the Information Superhighway [7]) the High-Performance Computing and
Communications Initiative (an off-shoot of the HPCA), the web browser
Mosaic[8], and the creation of a high-speed fiber optic network that,
when utilized, would help stimulate the economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#White_House_website
White House website
The Clinton-Gore administration launched the first official White House
website on 21 October 1994. [21], [22] It would be followed by three
more versions, resulting in the final edition launched in 2000.[23],
[24] The White House website was part of a general movement by this
administration towards web based communication: "Clinton and Gore were
responsible for pressing almost all federal agencies, the U.S. court
system and the U.S. military onto the Internet, thus opening up
America's government to more of America's citizens than ever before. On
17 July 1996. President Clinton issued Executive Order 13011 - Federal
Information Technology, ordering the heads of all federal agencies to
fully utilize information technology to make the information of the
agency easily accessible to the public." [25]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#Electronic_Bill_of_Rights
Electronic Bill of Rights
In 1998 Gore gave a speech concerning an "Electronic Bill of Rights" in
which he introduced methods of protecting privacy in the age of digital
technology: "We need an electronic bill of rights for this electronic
age," Vice President Gore said in an event in the Roosevelt Room at the
White House. "You should have the right to choose whether your personal
information is disclosed; you should have the right to know how, when,
and how much of that information is being used; and you should have the
right to see it yourself, to know if it's accurate." [26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#Apple_and_Google
Apple and Google
He has been a member of the board of directors of Apple Inc. since 2003
and serves as a Senior Advisor to Google Inc.[42]
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 09:12:01
From: WeaselPoopPower
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
|
Tom Kunich wrote:
> You really are stupid and mindless - I was using the internet LONG
> before 1991. This newsgroup was operation long before then.
Um who said you weren't polluting Usenet long before 1991.
I wasn't aware crack was available before 1991 but if you were online
well then I guess it was.
>
> But don't let facts get in the way of a political belief system.
Facts are apparently getting in the way of some internet pioneers.
What's in your way?
>
> Al Gore was SOMEWHAT supportive of an expansion bill and of course the
> people like you who are far more interested in political points than
> truth will make whatever you like of it. The fact is that the government
> should never have gotten involved in the internet since it was supposed
> to be purely educational and was supported by colleges and universities.
> After Al Gore's BS we are now blessed with spam, viruses, and every
> other useless waste of taxpayer's money.
>
> Bet you're a porn buyer and so love the Al Gore version of the internet.
I actually operate the single largest Pron operation in the world and I
started it in 1962 on a secret network available only to retard crack
monkeys.
>
>
> "WeaselPoopPower" <weasel@poop.ca> wrote in message
> news:Y7-dnW-4MYbhtYfanZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>> How about you kiss my nether regions? Al Gore said that he was
>> INSTRUMENTAL in the FOUNDING OF THE INTERNET.
>
> Luckily I listen to I Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn and Leonard Kleinrock
> among others not your ass or your ass spew media. I know you won't read
> this because like WMDs your mind is nowhere to be found. Others who are
> intelligent may be able to make up there own minds and not have someone
> else do it for them, for them read on... because the INVENTORS of the
> internet give Al Gore credit over and over.
>
> Leonard Kleinrock (ARPANET the worlds first switched network was
> developed in his lab circa 1969)
> http://www.lk.cs.ucla.edu/PS/paper224.pdf
> "A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al
> Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted
> legislation that resulted in President George Bush signing the High
> Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated
> $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the
> National Research and Education Network [13-14]. The NREN brought
> together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to
> accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking."
>
>
> Robert Kahn (inventor of TCP/IP protocol) and Vinton Cerf (one of the
> "Founding Fathers" of the internet)
> http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0009/msg00311.html
>
> [Originally To: Declan McCullaugh <declan {AT} well.com>, farber {AT}
> cis.upenn.edu
> Cc: rkahn {AT} cnri.reston.va.us]
>
> Dave and Declan,
>
> I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief summary of Al
> Gore's Internet involvement, prepared by Bob Kahn and me. As you know,
> there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice
> president for his assertion that he "took the initiative in creating the
> Internet."
>
> Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for
> his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet.
>
> I thought you might find this short summary of sufficient interest to
> share it with Politech and the IP lists, respectively.
>
> ==============================================================
>
> Al Gore and the Internet
>
> By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf
>
> Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
> Internet and to promote and support its development.
>
> No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
> Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
> people in government and the university community. But as the two people
> who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
> Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
> Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
> our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
> time.
>
> Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
> He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
> initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
> argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
> there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
> initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
> Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
> promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
> is timely to offer our perspective.
>
> As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
> telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
> improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
> to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
> than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
> forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
> concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
> earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
> we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
> in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
> intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
> benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
> sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
> areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
> disasters and other crises.
>
> As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
> what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
> into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
> officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
> the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
> 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
> Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
> spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.
>
> As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
> well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
> that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
> continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
> sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
> extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
> approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
> provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
> Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
> operation.
>
> There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
> growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
> support for its privatization and continued support for research in
> advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
> intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
> Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
> effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.
>
> The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
> of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
> consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
> citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
>
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>
> WorldCom
> 22001 Loudoun County Parkway
> Building F2, Room 4115, ATTN: Vint Cerf
> Ashburn, VA 20147
> Telephone (703) 886-1690
> FAX (703) 886-0047
>
> "INTERNET IS FOR EVERYONE!"
> INET 2001: Internet Global Summit
> 5-8 June 2001
> Sweden International Fairs
> Stockholm, Sweden
> http://www.isoc.org/inet2001
>
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#The_Webbys
>
> The Webbys
> On 06 June 2005, Gore was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award "for
> three decades of contributions to the Internet" at The Webby Awards. In
> giving him the award, Tiffany Shlain (the awards' founder and
> chairwoman) stated that she "wanted to set the record straight [...]
> it's just one of those instances someone did amazing work for three
> decades as Congressman, Senator and Vice President and it got spun
> around into this political mess." [43] Gore, during his acceptance
> speech (limited to five words according to Webby Awards rules), joked:
> "Please don't recount this vote". [44]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore_Bill
> The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (HPCA) was
> a bill created and introduced by then Senator Al Gore (it was thus
> referred to as the Gore Bill [1]). It was passed on December 9, 1991. [2]
>
> This bill led to the development of the National Research and Education
> Network (NREN) [3][4][5] (which was referred to with the rhetoric of the
> Information Superhighway[6]). It also led to the development of the
> National Information Infrastructure (also discussed through the rhetoric
> of the Information Superhighway [7]) the High-Performance Computing and
> Communications Initiative (an off-shoot of the HPCA), the web browser
> Mosaic[8], and the creation of a high-speed fiber optic network that,
> when utilized, would help stimulate the economy.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#White_House_website
>
> White House website
> The Clinton-Gore administration launched the first official White House
> website on 21 October 1994. [21], [22] It would be followed by three
> more versions, resulting in the final edition launched in 2000.[23],
> [24] The White House website was part of a general movement by this
> administration towards web based communication: "Clinton and Gore were
> responsible for pressing almost all federal agencies, the U.S. court
> system and the U.S. military onto the Internet, thus opening up
> America's government to more of America's citizens than ever before. On
> 17 July 1996. President Clinton issued Executive Order 13011 - Federal
> Information Technology, ordering the heads of all federal agencies to
> fully utilize information technology to make the information of the
> agency easily accessible to the public." [25]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#Electronic_Bill_of_Rights
>
> Electronic Bill of Rights
> In 1998 Gore gave a speech concerning an "Electronic Bill of Rights" in
> which he introduced methods of protecting privacy in the age of digital
> technology: "We need an electronic bill of rights for this electronic
> age," Vice President Gore said in an event in the Roosevelt Room at the
> White House. "You should have the right to choose whether your personal
> information is disclosed; you should have the right to know how, when,
> and how much of that information is being used; and you should have the
> right to see it yourself, to know if it's accurate." [26]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore's_contributions_to_the_Internet_and_technology#Apple_and_Google
>
> Apple and Google
> He has been a member of the board of directors of Apple Inc. since 2003
> and serves as a Senior Advisor to Google Inc.[42]
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 18:27:28
From: Dave
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Davey Crockett wrote:
> * bikinglynda@yahoo.com a écrit profondement:
>
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 14:18:02
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Firstly - if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. Whenever
there's an anonymous group like this, there will be people who try to take
advantage of the fact that they can't be identified to say the most bizarre
things.
Secondly, this group as bad as it gets is MILES better than most of the
other discussion groups on Usenet.
And Thirdly - no one was complaining about questions - it was your blind
assertions that women were better riders because they had to work harder to
go slower. I'm one person among many here who have supported women's racing
and the fact is that women are not nearly as competitive minded as well as
the fact that physically they simply aren't a comparison for the top flight
men. That's not to say that they can't beat MOST men, but then so can I and
I don't pretend to be any sort of athlete.
If you want to start racing you should firstly find a local women's racing
team. I don't know nor much care where you live but most areas have some
women's teams within not to difficult driving distance.
Racing is quite insulting at first. You're dropped so fast and so thoroughly
that it will cause most people to simply stop racing after the first race or
two. If you're on a team you'll get moral support and generally good advice.
Women's teams usually are very supportive even of women who will never be
good racers. Men's team are OFTEN supportive of women but not if they don't
show promise pretty quickly.
So you should find a local team to train with and get pointers and you
should get ready to really feel like a boob in the racing for a couple of
years. I think that the first year I never finished a race on the same lap
as the group except the last race of the season. The second year I rode at
the back which is the worst place to be in a race since they're yo-yoing
back and forth and working far harder than those near the front. The third
year and thereafter I was able to ride in the front group of my class (Old,
slow and in the way class) and eventually I felt like a real racer when I
discovered I was riding up what used to be a horrendous hill in my big chain
ring and not feeling like I was working.
It took about five years for that sort of riding strength to work its way
out of my system and I'm a slow rider again but I now have the confidence to
know that I can do any ride I set my mind on. At the end of a 10 day tour
I'm generally riding stronger than at the beginning now while everyone else
is slowing up. On climbs I am no longer dreading what's around the next turn
even if it's more climbing.
I can recommend racing to anyone that has the stamina to put up with the
amount of training necessary to move up in the ranks. Racing bicycles is
simply too hard for someone to play weekend warrior though - you have to
ride and train a whole lot to become good. You have to devote a good part of
your attention to it and not treat it as a lark unless you are unusually
gifted as some I've ridden with.
Welcome to cycling and long may you enjoy it.
Tom
<bikinglynda@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1192805986.884137.209020@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
> weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
> about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
> there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
> are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
> almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
> he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
> likes.
>
>
> I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
> to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
> really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
> know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
> laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
> here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
> says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.
>
> http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/will-bicycling-to-work-get-you-killed/
>
> LYNDA
>
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 18:49:30
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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In article
<1192805986.884137.209020@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com >
,
bikinglynda@yahoo.com wrote:
> I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup
Not a google group.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 16:56:53
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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wrote:
> I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
> weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
> about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
> there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
> are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
> almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
> he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
> likes.
>
>
> I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
> to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
> really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
> know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
> laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
> here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
> says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.
>
> http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/will-bicycling-to-work
> -get-you-killed/
>
> LYNDA
>
>
They didn't really name a series of women's bike races the Toona Tour did
they?
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 09:55:58
From: GoneBeforeMyTime
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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<bikinglynda@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1192805986.884137.209020@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> I thought I might be done writing to this googlegroup because it was
> weird to me how someone knew where I lived? but my friend who told me
> about this googlegroup in the first place said that was normal, that
> there was some way for people to do that on the internet. what states
> are you people from? I dont know how to look it up. he also said
> almost everyone on here was nice, even if they do some teasing. but
> he did say there is one person on here i should avoid that no one
> likes.
>
>
> I'm sorry some people haven't liked my questions. I am really going
> to try better. my question now is, those links that gmbt gave me were
> really great and I read a lot about womens races. Thanks I want to
> know more about the world cups ad the toona tour. I hope you won't
> laugh but I want to enter them someday, how do I do that?
> here is another thing, I read this article my friend sent to me that
> says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.
>
>
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/will-bicycling-to-work-get-
you-killed/
>
> LYNDA
Troll or not,
Sadly, a very timely article. Just yesterday I read in the local paper a guy
here got killed in this small town riding his bike to work. He rides his
bike everyday to work at Happy Burger. Well, when he didn't show up to work,
the boss Mr. Fritz called his family which said he did in fact leave for
work. I have many a time been in there for breakfast on his shift. Right
away the Sheriff started a search of roads as did his family and Mr. Fritz.
Mr Fritz started backtracking his daily route. One part of the road which I
know quite well having going through the steep gravel bed with my mountain
bike is a bit tricky. Well, Mr Fritz found his body off to side down a
ravine in a heavily wooden area. He saw the bike first and then the guy was
in the thick brush. It appeared he had a severe head injury. It's not clear
if he was wearing a helmet. I just know that section is really steep, maybe
28 percent or 30, and you need to be careful going down to the creek bed. I
always go slow, it's pretty dicey. It was foggy and poor visibility, so they
think he lost site of the road and went off into the ravine before he knew
what was happening. Fog will do that, I don't like riding in the fog. It's
very rare, in fact I can't ever remember a local being killed here on a
bike, but perhaps tourists biking to Yosemite. I read more about rock
climbers getting killed climbing El. Cap. or drowning in the Merced river.
GBMT
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 23:27:11
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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in message <fs2dnW1VQaUDfYXanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@sti.net >, GoneBeforeMyTime
('Fans@EuroForums.com') wrote:
>
> <bikinglynda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1192805986.884137.209020@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>> I read this article my friend sent to me that
>> says biking can be dangerous, what do you think.
>
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/18/will-bicycling-to-work-get-
> you-killed/
>>
>> LYNDA
>
> Troll or not,
>
> Sadly, a very timely article. Just yesterday I read in the local paper a
> guy here got killed in this small town riding his bike to work. He rides
> his bike everyday to work at Happy Burger. Well, when he didn't show up
> to work, the boss Mr. Fritz called his family which said he did in fact
> leave for work.
Look, let's be serious about this. Accidents do happen, and they're very
sad when they do. But cycling is about 50% safer, per kilometer travelled,
than walking (source: Department for Transport); and there is on average
one fatal accident in the UK for every twenty one and a half million miles
cycled (source: Office for National Statistics). We're not talking about a
dangerous activity here. We're talking about a very, very safe activity.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
Error 1109: There is no message for this error
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 00:07:26
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> Look, let's be serious about this. Accidents do happen, and they're
> very sad when they do. But cycling is about 50% safer, per kilometer
> travelled, than walking (source: Department for Transport); and there
> is on average one fatal accident in the UK for every twenty one and a
> half million miles cycled (source: Office for National Statistics).
> We're not talking about a dangerous activity here. We're talking about
> a very, very safe activity.
>
<snort > Maybe if you ride like a girl.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 17:30:27
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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"William Asher" <gcnp58@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:Xns99CEAE30FB927FkldeltaC@130.133.1.4...
> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> Look, let's be serious about this. Accidents do happen, and they're
>> very sad when they do. But cycling is about 50% safer, per kilometer
>> travelled, than walking (source: Department for Transport); and there
>> is on average one fatal accident in the UK for every twenty one and a
>> half million miles cycled (source: Office for National Statistics).
>> We're not talking about a dangerous activity here. We're talking about
>> a very, very safe activity.
>>
>
> <snort> Maybe if you ride like a girl.
The best riders NEVER fall down. I suppose that neatly classifies you Asher.
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 16:40:57
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> The best riders NEVER fall down.
and Frank Schleck won the Giro di Lombardia
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 00:35:37
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Tom Kunich wrote:
<snip >
> The best riders NEVER fall down. I suppose that neatly classifies you
> Asher.
Why is it that when I am out trolling for bluefin all I can catch are
goddamned cunners?
http://www.thejump.net/id/cunner.htm
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 20 Oct 2007 11:22:45
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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William Asher wrote:
> Why is it that when I am out trolling for bluefin all I can catch are
> goddamned cunners?
You're lucky you didn't catch a red herring.
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Date: 22 Oct 2007 16:35:45
From: William Asher
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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Donald Munro wrote:
> William Asher wrote:
>> Why is it that when I am out trolling for bluefin all I can catch are
>> goddamned cunners?
>
> You're lucky you didn't catch a red herring.
You should have seen the one that got away.
--
Bill Asher
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Date: 19 Oct 2007 10:15:26
From: GoneBeforeMyTime
Subject: Re: questions to enter races
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"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fans@EuroForums.com > wrote in message
news:fs2dnW1VQaUDfYXanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@sti.net...
> Sadly, a very timely article. Just yesterday I read in the local paper a
guy
> here got killed in this small town riding his bike to work.
Merced online paper ran the story...
Thursday, Oct. 18, 2007
Man dies in 'unfortunate' bike accident
Police say no cars or foul play appear to have been involved.
By VICTOR A. PATTON
mercedsun-star.com
MARIPOSA -- A terrible fall during a routine biking trek accidentally ended
the life of a man described as a friendly, outgoing person who majored in
music at Merced College.
Mariposa County Sheriff's investigators believe Norman Tablett, 46, died on
Saturday while riding his bike from home on the 4300 block of Bridgeport
Drive to his job at Happy Burger Diner at Highway 140 and 12th Street,
according to Mariposa County Assistant Coroner Gail Sgambellone.
Sgambellone said investigators concluded that Tablett, whose body was found
about four miles from his home near Mormon Bar Crossing and Old Highway, had
fallen and hit his head after his bike left the roadway. She said
investigators did not discover any signs of foul play or indications that
his bike could have been hit by a car. Investigators don't have any
witnesses to the incident, which they have deemed a tragic accident.
"He went off the road and over an embankment -- and the embankment was a
rocky, shrubbed area. So apparently when he went over the side he fell and
hit his head on rocks which caused a very obvious head injury. And that's
what the cause of death was," Sgambellone said. "This was just an isolated
incident. We don't have a history of this happening in this particular area.
It's just an unfortunate accident."
Sgambellone said investigators are not aware of any pre-existing medical
conditions that would have caused Tablett to have the accident.
Tablett was last seen alive around 4 a.m. on Oct. 13, leaving his home to
ride 11 miles to his job, Sgambellone said. His father, Lester, became
worried after hearing that his son had never arrived at work and notified
the sheriff's department around 8:30 a.m. The owners of the Happy Burger
Diner, Greg Fritz and his wife, Dianne (who is also a Mariposa County
Supervisor), discovered Tablett's body around 3:30 p.m. while searching for
him that day.
Greg Fritz said Tablett was an extremely dependable person who never missed
a day of work, which is one reason why it was odd when he did not arrive for
his shift on Oct. 13. "He was a friendly guy. His shift started at 6:30 a.m.
and he would always be here at 5:30 a.m. He'd come in, shoot the breeze and
drink coffee before he started his shift," Fritz said. "That's why we knew
there was something wrong."
Fritz said Tablett had ridden his bike to and from work for several years --
even when he held previous jobs at a doughnut shop and another local
restaurant. His wife spotted Talbett's bike in the brush and called his
name. "It was very thick brush. Brambles and berry thorns. I could tell very
easily that he had been gone since the morning," he said. "Then we made the
911 call."
Friends and family members described Tablett as a quiet, kind person who had
developed a passionate love for jazz music in recent years. "He was always
cheerful and he never had a bad word to say about people," said his brother
Dave, 40. "He was always willing to jump in and help when help was needed."
A 1979 graduate of Richard Gahr High School in Cerritos, Tablett served
honorably in the California Army National Guard from 1979 until 1990, where
he worked as a combat telecom center operator and audio visual equipment
repairman, according to his brother Thomas. During his 11 years of service
he was awarded the California Commendation Medal, the Commanding General's
Meritorious Unit Citation and Army Service Ribbon.
"He was quiet, but he was very intellectual," said Jessica Tablett, his
sister-in-law. "He was a beautiful person, and he is going to be very missed
by a lot of us."
Merced College music professor John Albano, who had Tablett as a student in
a jazz history class this semester, remembered him as a deeply involved and
enthusiastic student. "He was an 'A' student, and his comments were always
insightful in class," Albano said. "I could tell that he enjoyed being there
and he enjoyed learning."
Tablett was the eldest of five brothers and the son of Lester Tablett, 72,
and his late wife Marilyn Tablett. He is survived by his brothers Michael,
45, of Oakdale; James, 42, of Fresno; David, 40, of Mariposa and Thoma, 37,
of Fresno. He was never married and had no children.
Services for Tablett are scheduled for Oct. 27 at Mariposa Funeral Home,
located at 4981 9th St. A viewing is scheduled for at 9 a.m., while the
funeral is scheduled for 11 a.m.
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