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Date: 21 Jul 2007 17:03:38
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: ready to be enlightened....
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This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
baffled.
question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador, or
Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?
question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
mountain biker in a previous life? And if it comes down to Evans and
Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American team
of Discovery, and why?
question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than a
few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about the
pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 13:19:31
From: Kurgan Gringioni
Subject: Re: Hey, Morten! (was Re: ready to be enlightened....)
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On Jul 22, 1:04 pm, Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk > wrote:
> in message <td7bn4-o94....@wm.reippuert.dk>, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
>
> ('s...@reippuert.dk') wrote:
> > Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
> > declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
> > recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
> > this year.
>
> How is this going down in Denmark? Does the cycling fan in the street see
> Rasmussen as a new national hero, or a tainted crook? Are the Danish
> cycling authorities reflecting public opinion in dropping him from the
> team?
>
> Rasmussen's never struck me as a particularly likable guy, and he may well
> have ruffled a few feathers... but dropping him from the team for missed
> paperwork looks like a huge over-reaction.
Dumbass -
Either that or there may be some rumours floating around to which the
rest of the world isn't privy.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 16:43:33
From: RonSonic
Subject: Re: ready to be enlightened....
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:03:38 GMT, "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
>don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
>expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
>baffled.
>
>question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador, or
>Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?
Doesn't much matter what they say, It'll be whoever can get the best result
>question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
>mountain biker in a previous life?
So is the yellow jersey wearer this year and last year's winner.
>And if it comes down to Evans and
>Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American team
>of Discovery, and why?
Take your pick, Contador is young and brilliant and will be amazing.
>question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
>don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than a
>few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about the
>pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.
Don't think the tires would make a damn bit of difference.
Ron
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 23:36:59
From: Doug Taylor
Subject: Re: ready to be enlightened....
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:43:33 -0400, RonSonic
<ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com > wrote:
>>question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
>>mountain biker in a previous life?
>
>So is the yellow jersey wearer this year
True, and what is really sudden is the yellow jersey wearer's ability
to TT. Just when he gets booted off the Danish team for missing
out-of-competition dope tests.
Hmmm... Why does that remind me of Roberto Heras in the 2005 Vuelta?
> and last year's winner.
Did I miss something? When did that get confirmed?
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 07:43:57
From: Morten Reippuert Knudsen
Subject: Re: ready to be enlightened....
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Doug Taylor <dtaylor@dreamscape.com > wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:43:33 -0400, RonSonic
> <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >>question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
> >>mountain biker in a previous life?
> >
> >So is the yellow jersey wearer this year
> True, and what is really sudden is the yellow jersey wearer's ability
> to TT. Just when he gets booted off the Danish team for missing
> out-of-competition dope tests.
Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
this year.
--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) <http://blog.reippuert.dk >
Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 21:04:30
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Hey, Morten! (was Re: ready to be enlightened....)
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in message <td7bn4-o94.ln1@wm.reippuert.dk >, Morten Reippuert Knudsen
('spam@reippuert.dk') wrote:
> Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
> declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
> recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
> this year.
How is this going down in Denmark? Does the cycling fan in the street see
Rasmussen as a new national hero, or a tainted crook? Are the Danish
cycling authorities reflecting public opinion in dropping him from the
team?
Rasmussen's never struck me as a particularly likable guy, and he may well
have ruffled a few feathers... but dropping him from the team for missed
paperwork looks like a huge over-reaction.
Isn't it?
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simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
The Conservative Party now has the support of a smaller proportion of
the electorate in Scotland than Sinn Fein have in Northern Ireland.
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 10:10:58
From: Davey Crockett
Subject: Re: ready to be enlightened....
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen<spam@reippuert.dk > writes:
> Doug Taylor <dtaylor@dreamscape.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:43:33 -0400, RonSonic
>> <ronsonic@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> >>question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
>> >>mountain biker in a previous life?
>> >
>> >So is the yellow jersey wearer this year
>
>> True, and what is really sudden is the yellow jersey wearer's ability
>> to TT. Just when he gets booted off the Danish team for missing
>> out-of-competition dope tests.
>
> Actually he didn't miss any tests, he sendt his where-abouts
> declaration too late acording to the rules but the UCI/ADD still
> recived them ahead of scedule. MR has been tested out of competition
> this year.
>
It's merely Paddy McBoggy and his Megalomaniac Mentor Verbruggen
firing off yet another Salvo from the Poop Deck of their Sinking Ship
Pro-Tour.
Politics as usual. Just contemplate how many "News" items where the
"Facts" have been known to the "Sources" for a considerable or at
least reasonable length of time break immediately Prior to or During a
Significant RCS-UniPublic-ASO event.
But it's going to be Inchon and Saigon for the Terrible Twins because
it's a War they cannot possibly win.
All that needs to happen is that (using France/ASO as an example
although the Scenario is Equally Valid in most Civilized Cycling
Nations) ASO simply amend the Rules of Engagement for its Races to
delete any reference to UCI and FFC-FCI-CCA or
Whatever_National_UCI_Affiliate and substitute therefor UFOLEP and the
UCI is Hors Combat as the Lads rush to get UFOLEP Licenses. Except for
the Olympic Follies which are Moribund anyway as the New World Order
gains Momentum, McBoggy And Heinie will be Flapping around like Fish
out of Water. And of course, Verbruggen will go back to Peddling
Carnation Milk or Mars Bars leaving his Bum-Boy to Stumble, Blindly as
ever, towards the Welfare Line.
The Sponsors and Riders could care less who Governs the Races or What
License is Required to Ride them; they simply want to Race without
Power Hungry Politicos like Verbruggen and his Bum-Boy Paddy Who
Fucking them Over.
Verbruggen and McBoggy might think they're Big Wheels, but we all know
what Dogs do to Big Wheels.
(UFOLEP http://www.ufolep.org/default.asp?page=presentationuk
Virtually All if not in fact All ASO Sportif events, of which there
are a staggering number, already accept UFOLEP or other National
Equivalent Licenses -- ie A UCI affiliate License is NOT Required)
--
Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
-
Idly wondering what happened to the Thirteenth Amendment to the US
Constitution. The one that would have stripped Citizenship from the
likes of Sir Rudy Giuliani, Sir Colin Powell and Sir Ronald Reagan and
which was ratified by Virginia, the 13th and last requisite State to
ratify an Amendment at that time, on March 12, 1819.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 20:20:08
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: ready to be enlightened....
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in message <K%qoi.9463$tj6.5870@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
Callistus Valerius ('jazzyboss@hotmail.com') wrote:
> This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
> don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
> expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
> baffled.
>
> question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador,
> or Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?
Contador. He's got talent, and a future.
> question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden? Wasn't he a
> mountain biker in a previous life?
So was Rasmussen. So was Landis. So what?
> And if it comes down to Evans and
> Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American
> team of Discovery, and why?
Why should the (first) language they speak, and the nation they're from,
affect your judgement of a cyclist? Rasmussen, Gerdemann, and even Vino
all speak better English than most Americans (and, indeed, more coherent
English than Mark Cavendish).
> question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
> don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than
> a
> few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about
> the pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.
Millar said in an interview after his run that he had advised Iban Mayo to
put road tyres on - presumably meaning 23mm@120psi rather than 20mm@180.
--
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; this is not a .sig
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 11:28:12
From: Mark
Subject: Re: ready to be enlightened....
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Callistus Valerius wrote:
> This is why I come to rbr, so I can be enlightened, to learn something I
> don't know. Unfortunately I come in here (rbr), and I find out I'm the
> expert doing the educating, but after today's ITT results, I'm truly
> baffled.
>
> question 1: who should Discovery say is their No. 1 man, is it Contador, or
> Levi? Who should it be, and will it be?
>
> question 2: how did Cadel Evans get so good all of sudden?
Hmmm... Maglia Rosa in the mountains of the Giro in 2002(for only a day
before imploding, but still). Ended up 14th overall.
It ain't "all of a sudden."
Wasn't he a
> mountain biker in a previous life? And if it comes down to Evans and
> Contador, should I pull for the english speaking Evans, or the American team
> of Discovery, and why?
Geez, cheer for anybody you like.
>
> question 3: if the descent is so slick, that Millar almost stopped, why
> don't they put wider tires on. Isn't it better to lose 20 seconds, than a
> few minutes or a trip to the hospital if you crash? I'm talking about the
> pack-fill, not the top 10 who have a chance to win.
a) They probably haven't got any particularly wide tires on hand, and
more importantly, b) They can't predict the weather much better than you
or I.
Mark J.
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