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Date: 18 May 2007 03:27:16
From: Callistus Valerius
Subject: tour day france
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I hope this trial will once and for all decide who won the tdf last year.
Shouldn't we have a declared winner, before we start the next one?
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Date: 18 May 2007 10:38:29
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: tour day france
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in message <o293i.16630$3P3.5609@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
Callistus Valerius ('jazzyboss@hotmail.com') wrote:
> I hope this trial will once and for all decide who won the tdf last year.
> Shouldn't we have a declared winner, before we start the next one?
David Millar. Everyone knows that...
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simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; If you're doing this for fun, do what seems fun. If you're
;; doing it for money, stop now.
;; Rainer Deyke
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Date: 17 May 2007 22:44:16
From: Bob Schwartz
Subject: Re: tour day france
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Callistus Valerius wrote:
> I hope this trial will once and for all decide who won the tdf last year.
> Shouldn't we have a declared winner, before we start the next one?
In a perfect world, yes. But it may take a while for them to
disqualify everyone up to Dessel, who is as pure as newly
fallen snow.
When you consider how Operation Puerto is turning out for the
footballers compared to the cyclists it seems clear that the
answer is for cycling to have as much money in it as football.
That is what it would take to clean up the sport.
Bob Schwartz
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Date: 18 May 2007 11:45:01
From: Dan Gregory
Subject: Re: tour day france
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
> When you consider how Operation Puerto is turning out for the
> footballers compared to the cyclists it seems clear that the
> answer is for cycling to have as much money in it as football.
> That is what it would take to clean up the sport.
Well at least Blatter the head of FIFA has asked for all the Puerto docs
to be sent to them so he is trying to take it further....
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Date: 18 May 2007 21:30:45
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: tour day france
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In article <5b5eb5F2ptidsU1@mid.individual.net >,
Dan Gregory <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk > wrote:
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
> > When you consider how Operation Puerto is turning out for the
> > footballers compared to the cyclists it seems clear that the
> > answer is for cycling to have as much money in it as football.
> > That is what it would take to clean up the sport.
>
> Well at least Blatter the head of FIFA has asked for all the Puerto docs
> to be sent to them so he is trying to take it further....
Or exercise maximum damage control. $$$$$$$$$$$$
(no Euro or Swiss Franc sign here)
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Michael Press
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Date: 18 May 2007 13:17:46
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: tour day france
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Dans le message de news:5b5eb5F2ptidsU1@mid.individual.net,
Dan Gregory <dangregory@brakes.palaver.freeserve.co.uk > a réfléchi, et puis
a déclaré :
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
>> When you consider how Operation Puerto is turning out for the
>> footballers compared to the cyclists it seems clear that the
>> answer is for cycling to have as much money in it as football.
>> That is what it would take to clean up the sport.
>
> Well at least Blatter the head of FIFA has asked for all the Puerto
> docs to be sent to them so he is trying to take it further....
In yesterday's post-race chat on Rai3, the minister of sport and the drug
prosecutor were both needled about their failing to go after richer sports.
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Date: 18 May 2007 09:10:56
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: tour day france
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:17:46 +0200, "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr > wrote:
>> Well at least Blatter the head of FIFA has asked for all the Puerto
>> docs to be sent to them so he is trying to take it further....
>
>In yesterday's post-race chat on Rai3, the minister of sport and the drug
>prosecutor were both needled about their failing to go after richer sports.
Any chance they are trying to set up precedence and procedure against
the weaker sport before they go after football?
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 18 May 2007 15:15:23
From: Sandy
Subject: Re: tour day france
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Dans le message de news:5ucr4353l58qgfoh4kgneofb5e9p89q84l@4ax.com,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:17:46 +0200, "Sandy" <leurre@frree.fr> wrote:
>
>>> Well at least Blatter the head of FIFA has asked for all the Puerto
>>> docs to be sent to them so he is trying to take it further....
>>
>> In yesterday's post-race chat on Rai3, the minister of sport and the
>> drug prosecutor were both needled about their failing to go after
>> richer sports.
>
> Any chance they are trying to set up precedence and procedure against
> the weaker sport before they go after football?
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...
Actually, I think it's just easier going after a sport which has long-time
dope control than initiating a new one. After the UEFA final Wednesday, I
didn't see any evidence that the players were going to be tested after the
match. I tried to get ASO to disclose if they did any testing after the
Paris marathon, with no result. I could go on, but really, no other sport
is tested as much, although track & field seems to get a little scrutiny.
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Bonne route !
Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR
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Date: 18 May 2007 12:48:21
From: Donald Munro
Subject: Re: tour day france
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
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>> When you consider how Operation Puerto is turning out for the
>> footballers compared to the cyclists it seems clear that the
>> answer is for cycling to have as much money in it as football.
>> That is what it would take to clean up the sport.
Dan Gregory wrote:
> Well at least Blatter the head of FIFA has asked for all the Puerto docs
> to be sent to them so he is trying to take it further....
The only problem being many of the relevant blood bags have been
disappeared.
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Date: 18 May 2007 04:50:39
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: tour day france
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In article <mi93i.760$C96.443@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net >,
Bob Schwartz <bob.schwartz@REMOVEsbcglobal.net > wrote:
> Callistus Valerius wrote:
> > I hope this trial will once and for all decide who won the tdf last year.
> > Shouldn't we have a declared winner, before we start the next one?
>
> In a perfect world, yes. But it may take a while for them to
> disqualify everyone up to Dessel, who is as pure as newly
> fallen snow.
Ah, if only it were that easy. 58 must fall:
59 David Millar (GBr) Saunier Duval 2.04.10
It's Millar's time.
> When you consider how Operation Puerto is turning out for the
> footballers compared to the cyclists it seems clear that the
> answer is for cycling to have as much money in it as football.
> That is what it would take to clean up the sport.
The only way to win is not to play.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 18 May 2007 11:31:55
From: Ewoud Dronkert
Subject: Re: tour day france
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Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> The only way to win is not to play.
Very good Joshua.
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E. Dronkert
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Date: 19 May 2007 01:06:41
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: tour day france
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In article <464d728b$0$328$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >,
Ewoud Dronkert <firstname@lastname.net.invalid > wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau schreef:
> > The only way to win is not to play.
>
> Very good Joshua.
Thank you Dr. Falken!
Think of what the next generation has to live with, between The Net and
Hackers.
Though I didn't realize until recently that the latter movie was one of
Ms. Jolie's earliest films.
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Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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