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Date: 12 Mar 2006 06:32:27
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: A Statement and an Aploogy
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Well I finally learned how to filter messages in Outlook Express. I have
setup two rules. One of them deletes messages from a specific person. The
other one deletes messages about a specific person.
Note to specific person (you know who you are): Don't bother responding. I
won't see the response.
My apology to this group for being an active participant in the discussions
for so long. I enjoy a good political or philosophical discussion but in
order to have one you need a sane human being on the other side. I am a
pretty far left liberal and I have some great friends that are pretty far
right conservatives. All of them are sane, however. If this generates a
return rant from a certain person then I apologize yet again. BTW I am not
mentioning his name or my own message would be "kill filed" from me. This is
the last message you will see from me regarding this person.
If anyone uses OE and needs help setting up rules I would be happy to help
you. I have finally had enough.
Regards,
Jeff
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 20:18:54
From: JimmyMac
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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GaryG,
Along with Jeff Gripe and myself, you sure seem to have the HEADward
the GRATE's number. I'm sure that there are others, but we have been
the most vocal. Ed is a therapist's nighte his psyche is so badly
scrambled. There's no fool like and old fool. Ed you listenin' ...
rhetorical. Ed only listens to Ed.
Jim McNaa
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 20:11:00
From: JimmyMac
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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HEADward thte GRATE,
Rave and rant all to you heart's content. Randomly babble incohernetly
and out of context. No on gives a SHIT fool!!!
Jim McNaa
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Date: 13 Mar 2006 04:53:36
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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Gang,
Some of this shit is getting through my filter by failing to mention his
holiness' name.
I did not mean to create yet another vehicle for him to use to rant and rave
but it seems he will take any opportunity presented.
I implore you as I have been implored in the past, DON'T FEED THE TROLL. He
won't disappear overnight. History has shown us that he will create topics
about himself and then respond to his own postings. It is not hard to set up
filters which will keep this from ever reaching your door, however. Finally
if he gets no response, he will move on.
Please just leave him alone. I know his views are so warped that you can't
help but respond but please understand the following:
1. You can't influence or change him.
2. You can't even get him to listen to an opinion that isn't his.
Please don't feed the troll. If you must, please mention by name in your
post. You can do this most easily by quoting his post and leaving in the
part that says "....." wrote or however your news reader quotes.
Many thanks,
Jeff
PS to the great one who I know is an active participant in this thread.
Obviously we on the left fuck like bunnies. We have much better looking
women on the left. As manly men we are designed and built to be attracted to
them. When they consent to be with us, it isn't that we are bragging but
mere exclaiming about how good this god-created experience is. Even the
women of the left who wouldn't be attractive by our current social standard
are wonderful people and fantastic lovers. This makes them equally
attractive to those who possess physical beauty as an attribute. We men of
the left can only hope that we are as good to them as they are to us. We
fuck over here because the fucking is good. All things considered, please
stay over there. I wouldn't want you to contaminate our gene pool.
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1142223060.044144.162680@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> HEADward thte GRATE,
>
> Rave and rant all to you heart's content. Randomly babble incohernetly
> and out of context. No on gives a SHIT fool!!!
>
> Jim McNaa
>
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Date: 13 Mar 2006 08:49:40
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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[newsgroups trimmed]
"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote
> I implore you as I have been implored in the past,
> DON'T FEED THE TROLL.
Actually, don't rise or descend to the bait.
As many people point out, one can filter, either by choosing
which topics and messages to read "manually" or by automating
the process with filters. Both work, the later reduces clutter
and temptation, dramatically.
Effective as filtering, manual or automated is, the curb appeal of
a newsgroup is not determined by these. The curb-appeal or
repel of ARBR is and has been for some time dominated by off-topic
and often insulting, abusive, and not infrequently vulgar and obscene
posts. Imagine coming to ARBR for the first time, not knowing
who/what to ignore. That's the curb-appeal or not-appeal factor.
In the end, it doesn't matter whether trollers actually believe what
they write or are simply posing. But if it helps to realize that you
cannot change a seemingly racist, bigoted, even unbalanced
posters' minds by either responding in measured logical ways or
responding in equally abusive form, then do what it takes to come
to that conclusion. If it helps to realize they may be simply trying
to push your buttons and promote themselves by any attention
and response, then consider that.
USENET newsgroups are communities. We are what we post.
All posts are trolls. Want more posts like Ed's? Respond to
him, take his bait. Bait him. By all means, "engage" him.
Want a different appeal for ARBR? Post more messages like
you want to see. Respond, bait, engage *positively*. Ignore the
negative baiting and take pride in doing so, but don't expect it
to go away any time soon.
Jon Meinecke
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Date: 13 Mar 2006 11:54:21
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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At this point I have his last name filtered from "From", "Subject" and
"Message".
Unless they come out with a recumbent by that name, I won't be missing
anything.
Regarding not taking the bait, I was just a bit slower than I should have
been. I finally realized that actual dialog was impossible and that I would
simply perfer not to see anything from him.
Even his on-topic posts can be unpleasent.
I don't care about the language the people use and I don't mind a wide
variety of opinion. I also am free to change my opinion when I decide to.
For quite a while I said that everyone is welcome here and that his
contribution was important.
As far as I'm concerned he can do whatever he wants but I don't have to read
it. It isn't like he is going to say anything new. There is no real dialog.
I've had conversations (electronically) with people of faith who, when it
came down to "this is what I believe", simply made that statement without
putting down the people who believe differently. Maybe that type of person
is rare. I don't know.
In any case, at this point, I am free from his rants.
Regards,
Jeff
"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@none.non > wrote in message
news:44158548$0$3308$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
> [newsgroups trimmed]
>
> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com> wrote
>> I implore you as I have been implored in the past,
>> DON'T FEED THE TROLL.
>
> Actually, don't rise or descend to the bait.
>
> As many people point out, one can filter, either by choosing
> which topics and messages to read "manually" or by automating
> the process with filters. Both work, the later reduces clutter
> and temptation, dramatically.
>
> Effective as filtering, manual or automated is, the curb appeal of
> a newsgroup is not determined by these. The curb-appeal or
> repel of ARBR is and has been for some time dominated by off-topic
> and often insulting, abusive, and not infrequently vulgar and obscene
> posts. Imagine coming to ARBR for the first time, not knowing
> who/what to ignore. That's the curb-appeal or not-appeal factor.
>
> In the end, it doesn't matter whether trollers actually believe what
> they write or are simply posing. But if it helps to realize that you
> cannot change a seemingly racist, bigoted, even unbalanced
> posters' minds by either responding in measured logical ways or
> responding in equally abusive form, then do what it takes to come
> to that conclusion. If it helps to realize they may be simply trying
> to push your buttons and promote themselves by any attention
> and response, then consider that.
>
> USENET newsgroups are communities. We are what we post.
> All posts are trolls. Want more posts like Ed's? Respond to
> him, take his bait. Bait him. By all means, "engage" him.
>
> Want a different appeal for ARBR? Post more messages like
> you want to see. Respond, bait, engage *positively*. Ignore the
> negative baiting and take pride in doing so, but don't expect it
> to go away any time soon.
>
> Jon Meinecke
>
>
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Date: 14 Mar 2006 20:44:47
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote in message
news:121b91miajavoa3@news.supernews.com...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> At this point I have his last name filtered from "From", "Subject" and
> "Message".
>
> Unless they come out with a recumbent by that name, I won't be missing
> anything.
>
> Regarding not taking the bait, I was just a bit slower than I should have
> been. I finally realized that actual dialog was impossible and that I
> would simply perfer not to see anything from him.
>
> Even his on-topic posts can be unpleasent.
Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. No one here but us monkeys!
> I don't care about the language the people use and I don't mind a wide
> variety of opinion. I also am free to change my opinion when I decide to.
> For quite a while I said that everyone is welcome here and that his
> contribution was important.
>
> As far as I'm concerned he can do whatever he wants but I don't have to
> read it. It isn't like he is going to say anything new. There is no real
> dialog.
>
> I've had conversations (electronically) with people of faith who, when it
> came down to "this is what I believe", simply made that statement without
> putting down the people who believe differently. Maybe that type of person
> is rare. I don't know.
>
> In any case, at this point, I am free from his rants.
Apparently, it has never occurred to Jeff that I am now free of him too. But
I do not have to kill file anyone to be free of someone. Fortunately for me,
I have a brain which is an excellent filter. I can therefore choose who and
what I am going to read and who and what I am going to respond to. That is
why I am Great and why Jeff Grippe is a dwarf - and Jon Meinecke too!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 13 Mar 2006 12:41:53
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote
> In any case, at this point, I am free from his rants.
You always were... %^) They have no power.
Hope you are healing well.
Weather here is trolling more riding, even with the winds.
Can't wait for daylight to catch up with opportunity for rides
after work.
Jon Meinecke
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Date: 14 Mar 2006 20:49:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@none.non > wrote in message
news:4415bbb5$0$3285$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
> "Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com> wrote
>
>> In any case, at this point, I am free from his rants.
>
> You always were... %^) They have no power.
>
> Hope you are healing well.
>
> Weather here is trolling more riding, even with the winds.
> Can't wait for daylight to catch up with opportunity for rides
> after work.
>
> Jon Meinecke
Yes, the two of you bozos can make beautiful music together. You will have
to excuse me from your company however as I cannot tolerate buzzards and
weasels. If and when the two of you ever decide to become human beings, let
me know.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 23:59:16
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1142223060.044144.162680@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> HEADward thte GRATE,
>
> Rave and rant all to you heart's content. Randomly babble incohernetly
> and out of context. No on gives a SHIT fool!!!
Jon Meinecke is monitoring all of this very closely I am sure. I do not know
if he approves of your use of the word 'shit', especially in capital
letters! If I were you I would be on my guard. Jon Meinecke may be calling
your ISP any day now.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 20:07:21
From: JimmyMac
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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TRANSLATION: According to Saint HEADward the GRATET - Order of the
Perpetually Obnoxious ... sexual intercourse between two ried
consulting adults for the purpose of pleasure rather than the
procreation is condemnable, but sexual intercourse between two
unried consulting adults for the purpose of bringing a bastard into
the world is sanctioned.
I'm not taking a position here ... just clarifying someone else's.
Jim McNaa
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 23:35:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1142222841.463470.38160@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> TRANSLATION: According to Saint HEADward the GRATET - Order of the
> Perpetually Obnoxious ... sexual intercourse between two ried
> consulting adults for the purpose of pleasure rather than the
> procreation is condemnable, but sexual intercourse between two
> unried consulting adults for the purpose of bringing a bastard into
> the world is sanctioned.
>
> I'm not taking a position here ... just clarifying someone else's.
Nope, you got that totally wrong. riage is of the essence. Without that,
everything else is an abomination. I do not want to get into the sociology
of the family, but it is the most important thing of all. I am definitely
against bringing bastards into the world. Hells Bells, there are already
enough bastards on these newsgoups, otherwise known as ARBR and RBM.
But Jim is right about one thing. When I refer to someone as a fornicator, I
am not being complementary. I mean to put down such conduct for what it is.
It is not sanctioned by traditional society nor traditional morality. Sex
within riage is one thing, outside of riage it is another.
Anyone who boasts about their sexual prowess outside of riage will get a
rejoinder from the Great Ed Dolan. I do not suffer fools lightly and there
are many names for those who violate the norms of society. I will use them
and you will not like them.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 19:44:25
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote in message
news:12181jrh0oou20e@news.supernews.com...
> Well I finally learned how to filter messages in Outlook Express. I have
> setup two rules. One of them deletes messages from a specific person. The
> other one deletes messages about a specific person.
>
> Note to specific person (you know who you are): Don't bother responding. I
> won't see the response.
But he KNOWS I will respond because of my Greatness!
> My apology to this group for being an active participant in the
> discussions for so long. I enjoy a good political or philosophical
> discussion but in order to have one you need a sane human being on the
> other side. I am a pretty far left liberal and I have some great friends
> that are pretty far right conservatives. All of them are sane, however. If
> this generates a return rant from a certain person then I apologize yet
> again. BTW I am not mentioning his name or my own message would be "kill
> filed" from me. This is the last message you will see from me regarding
> this person.
>
> If anyone uses OE and needs help setting up rules I would be happy to help
> you. I have finally had enough.
Well, I have been having enough of liberals like Jeff Grippe most of my
life. In my long lost youth I was ignorant enough to have certain liberal
views myself, but I outgrew them. Poor Jeff never did.
If Jeff or anyone else comes on these newsgroups and espouses liberal views,
they are going to hear fom me. How reasonable and rational the discussion
will be depends on how far left your views are. If you, like Jeff, think
late term abortions are just fine, then I am going to go ballistic and no
words will be spared to describe you and your noxious view. Jeff was very
far left on most of his social and political views so that no rational
discussion was possible. I always regarded him as a nut case and wanted to
beat him over the head.
You can be a liberal, but you cannot be far left. If you are, I will not
only go ballistic, but I will go into orbit. If you are far left, then get
the f*** out of this country. Maybe go to freaking Canada, or better yet,
freaking France. Yea, that is where you belong, in the land of eternal
treason to Western Civilization.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 06:51:57
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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Jeff Grippe wrote:
> Well I finally learned how to filter messages in Outlook Express. I have
> setup two rules. One of them deletes messages from a specific person. The
> other one deletes messages about a specific person.
>
> Note to specific person (you know who you are): Don't bother responding. I
> won't see the response.
>
> My apology to this group for being an active participant in the discussions
> for so long. I enjoy a good political or philosophical discussion but in
> order to have one you need a sane human being on the other side. I am a
> pretty far left liberal and I have some great friends that are pretty far
> right conservatives. All of them are sane, however. If this generates a
> return rant from a certain person then I apologize yet again. BTW I am not
> mentioning his name or my own message would be "kill filed" from me. This is
> the last message you will see from me regarding this person.
>
> If anyone uses OE and needs help setting up rules I would be happy to help
> you. I have finally had enough.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>
Filters can be your friend. BUT you have to be pretty annoying to get
into my filter list. I don't think I have added anyone to the filters
since the highracer blog guy stopped posting his dribble.
Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles
Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 18:13:26
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"Ken C. M." <kencmjr-nospam@netzero.net > wrote in message
news:GL2dnZulYrvAlonZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Jeff Grippe wrote:
>> Well I finally learned how to filter messages in Outlook Express. I have
>> setup two rules. One of them deletes messages from a specific person. The
>> other one deletes messages about a specific person.
>>
>> Note to specific person (you know who you are): Don't bother responding.
>> I won't see the response.
>>
>> My apology to this group for being an active participant in the
>> discussions for so long. I enjoy a good political or philosophical
>> discussion but in order to have one you need a sane human being on the
>> other side. I am a pretty far left liberal and I have some great friends
>> that are pretty far right conservatives. All of them are sane, however.
>> If this generates a return rant from a certain person then I apologize
>> yet again. BTW I am not mentioning his name or my own message would be
>> "kill filed" from me. This is the last message you will see from me
>> regarding this person.
>>
>> If anyone uses OE and needs help setting up rules I would be happy to
>> help you. I have finally had enough.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeff
> Filters can be your friend. BUT you have to be pretty annoying to get into
> my filter list. I don't think I have added anyone to the filters since the
> highracer blog guy stopped posting his dribble.
>
> Ken
Ken, I have been subject to every outrage and indignity that it is possible
for a human being to suffer on these blasted newsgroups, but it has never
even occurred to me to kill file anyone. I want to know what is being said
to me or about me. Any other course is for fearful children, not men of the
world like you and me.
Jeff Grippe is a fearful liberal who cannot brook any opposition to his
liberal ideology. The g.d Liberals have had their way all of my life and now
finally we Conservatives are getting our two cents in - and they can't stand
it. Well, screw them all the way to hell and back!
Jeff is a baby killer (favors abortion) and so he is anathema to me in my
scheme of things. He has also boasted of being a fornicator. He does not
like to be called out for what he is and so he kill files me. But I will
always be here to take on those who outrage common sense. These are mostly
liberals, but some conservatives can also outrage common sense.
I am the champion of the common man who has retained the common sense he was
born with. That is why I consider myself Great.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 17:50:09
From: GaryG
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:ArmdnaFAutCzJInZRVn-vQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Ken C. M." <kencmjr-nospam@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:GL2dnZulYrvAlonZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > Jeff Grippe wrote:
> >> Well I finally learned how to filter messages in Outlook Express. I
have
> >> setup two rules. One of them deletes messages from a specific person.
The
> >> other one deletes messages about a specific person.
> >>
> >> Note to specific person (you know who you are): Don't bother
responding.
> >> I won't see the response.
> >>
> >> My apology to this group for being an active participant in the
> >> discussions for so long. I enjoy a good political or philosophical
> >> discussion but in order to have one you need a sane human being on the
> >> other side. I am a pretty far left liberal and I have some great
friends
> >> that are pretty far right conservatives. All of them are sane, however.
> >> If this generates a return rant from a certain person then I apologize
> >> yet again. BTW I am not mentioning his name or my own message would be
> >> "kill filed" from me. This is the last message you will see from me
> >> regarding this person.
> >>
> >> If anyone uses OE and needs help setting up rules I would be happy to
> >> help you. I have finally had enough.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jeff
> > Filters can be your friend. BUT you have to be pretty annoying to get
into
> > my filter list. I don't think I have added anyone to the filters since
the
> > highracer blog guy stopped posting his dribble.
> >
> > Ken
>
> Ken, I have been subject to every outrage and indignity that it is
possible
> for a human being to suffer on these blasted newsgroups, but it has never
> even occurred to me to kill file anyone. I want to know what is being said
> to me or about me. Any other course is for fearful children, not men of
the
> world like you and me.
Limp-dick ED a "man of the world"!!?? That's too damned funny. By your own
admission, you are so fearful of human contact that you have no social life
whatsoever (outside of usenet), and you're so afraid of sexual intimacy that
it's entirely possible that you're a virgin (you've been asked this question
many times, and refused to answer).
That hardly qualifies you for "man of the world" status.
>
> Jeff Grippe is a fearful liberal who cannot brook any opposition to his
> liberal ideology. The g.d Liberals have had their way all of my life and
now
> finally we Conservatives are getting our two cents in - and they can't
stand
> it. Well, screw them all the way to hell and back!
>
> Jeff is a baby killer (favors abortion) and so he is anathema to me in my
> scheme of things. He has also boasted of being a fornicator. He does not
> like to be called out for what he is and so he kill files me. But I will
> always be here to take on those who outrage common sense. These are mostly
> liberals, but some conservatives can also outrage common sense.
>
> I am the champion of the common man who has retained the common sense he
was
> born with. That is why I consider myself Great.
Funny...nobody else considers you "great". Most of us consider you a
pathetic, lonely, homophobic, misogynistic loser whose only human contact is
as the largest asshole on ARBR.
If there have been posts coming to the defense of your silly "greatness",
please provide links to same.
GG
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 20:41:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
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"GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com > wrote in message
news:8d4Rf.629$ts.595@fe05.lga...
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:ArmdnaFAutCzJInZRVn-vQ@prairiewave.com...
[...]
>> Ken, I have been subject to every outrage and indignity that it is
> possible
>> for a human being to suffer on these blasted newsgroups, but it has never
>> even occurred to me to kill file anyone. I want to know what is being
>> said
>> to me or about me. Any other course is for fearful children, not men of
> the
>> world like you and me.
>
> Limp-dick ED a "man of the world"!!?? That's too damned funny. By your
> own
> admission, you are so fearful of human contact that you have no social
> life
> whatsoever (outside of usenet), and you're so afraid of sexual intimacy
> that
> it's entirely possible that you're a virgin (you've been asked this
> question
> many times, and refused to answer).
>
> That hardly qualifies you for "man of the world" status.
A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my idea
of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just fine
and dandy.
>> Jeff Grippe is a fearful liberal who cannot brook any opposition to his
>> liberal ideology. The g.d Liberals have had their way all of my life and
> now
>> finally we Conservatives are getting our two cents in - and they can't
> stand
>> it. Well, screw them all the way to hell and back!
>>
>> Jeff is a baby killer (favors abortion) and so he is anathema to me in my
>> scheme of things. He has also boasted of being a fornicator. He does not
>> like to be called out for what he is and so he kill files me. But I will
>> always be here to take on those who outrage common sense. These are
>> mostly
>> liberals, but some conservatives can also outrage common sense.
>>
>> I am the champion of the common man who has retained the common sense he
> was
>> born with. That is why I consider myself Great.
>
> Funny...nobody else considers you "great". Most of us consider you a
> pathetic, lonely, homophobic, misogynistic loser whose only human contact
> is
> as the largest asshole on ARBR.
"A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my idea
of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just fine
and dandy." - Ed Dolan
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 20:39:01
From: GaryG
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:B-ednQwb6d9WRonZRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com> wrote in message
> news:8d4Rf.629$ts.595@fe05.lga...
> > "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> > news:ArmdnaFAutCzJInZRVn-vQ@prairiewave.com...
> [...]
> >> Ken, I have been subject to every outrage and indignity that it is
> > possible
> >> for a human being to suffer on these blasted newsgroups, but it has
never
> >> even occurred to me to kill file anyone. I want to know what is being
> >> said
> >> to me or about me. Any other course is for fearful children, not men of
> > the
> >> world like you and me.
> >
> > Limp-dick ED a "man of the world"!!?? That's too damned funny. By your
> > own
> > admission, you are so fearful of human contact that you have no social
> > life
> > whatsoever (outside of usenet), and you're so afraid of sexual intimacy
> > that
> > it's entirely possible that you're a virgin (you've been asked this
> > question
> > many times, and refused to answer).
> >
> > That hardly qualifies you for "man of the world" status.
>
> A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
idea
> of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just fine
> and dandy.
Well, ED, you're the one who has claimed to be highly intelligent and
educated, and also claimed to be a "man of the world". If you were the
former, you would know that you're certainly not the latter.
FWIW, a "man of the world" is an idiomatic expression, meaning "someone who
has a lot of experience of life, and is not usually shocked by the way
people behave."
You clearly lack experience in many important areas of life (women, sex,
social skills, etc.), and you are continually shocked and disgusted by
common forms of behavior...so, by any rational analysis, you're not a "man
of the world".
GG
>
> >> Jeff Grippe is a fearful liberal who cannot brook any opposition to his
> >> liberal ideology. The g.d Liberals have had their way all of my life
and
> > now
> >> finally we Conservatives are getting our two cents in - and they can't
> > stand
> >> it. Well, screw them all the way to hell and back!
> >>
> >> Jeff is a baby killer (favors abortion) and so he is anathema to me in
my
> >> scheme of things. He has also boasted of being a fornicator. He does
not
> >> like to be called out for what he is and so he kill files me. But I
will
> >> always be here to take on those who outrage common sense. These are
> >> mostly
> >> liberals, but some conservatives can also outrage common sense.
> >>
> >> I am the champion of the common man who has retained the common sense
he
> > was
> >> born with. That is why I consider myself Great.
> >
> > Funny...nobody else considers you "great". Most of us consider you a
> > pathetic, lonely, homophobic, misogynistic loser whose only human
contact
> > is
> > as the largest asshole on ARBR.
>
> "A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
idea
> of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just fine
> and dandy." - Ed Dolan
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
>
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 23:52:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
"GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com > wrote in message
news:sH6Rf.1205$pV1.1138@fe02.lga...
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:B-ednQwb6d9WRonZRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
[...]
>> > That hardly qualifies you for "man of the world" status.
>>
>> A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
> idea
>> of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just fine
>> and dandy.
>
> Well, ED, you're the one who has claimed to be highly intelligent and
> educated, and also claimed to be a "man of the world". If you were the
> former, you would know that you're certainly not the latter.
"A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
fine
and dandy." - Ed Dolan
> FWIW, a "man of the world" is an idiomatic expression, meaning "someone
> who
> has a lot of experience of life, and is not usually shocked by the way
> people behave."
"A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
fine
and dandy." - Ed Dolan
> You clearly lack experience in many important areas of life (women, sex,
> social skills, etc.), and you are continually shocked and disgusted by
> common forms of behavior...so, by any rational analysis, you're not a "man
> of the world".
"A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
fine
and dandy." - Ed Dolan
By the way, I have traveled extensively all over the world and I have
encountered no cultures where it is acceptable to boast about one's sexual
prowess in public. Only complete slobs and reprobates do that sort of thing.
Sex outside of riage is universally condemned and excoriated. The family
and its values reign supreme everywhere.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 22:09:07
From: GaryG
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:XcCdnX9vqaA0lYjZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com> wrote in message
> news:sH6Rf.1205$pV1.1138@fe02.lga...
> > "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> > news:B-ednQwb6d9WRonZRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
> [...]
> >> > That hardly qualifies you for "man of the world" status.
> >>
> >> A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
> > idea
> >> of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
fine
> >> and dandy.
> >
> > Well, ED, you're the one who has claimed to be highly intelligent and
> > educated, and also claimed to be a "man of the world". If you were the
> > former, you would know that you're certainly not the latter.
>
> "A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
> idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
> fine
> and dandy." - Ed Dolan
>
> > FWIW, a "man of the world" is an idiomatic expression, meaning "someone
> > who
> > has a lot of experience of life, and is not usually shocked by the way
> > people behave."
>
> "A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
> idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
> fine
> and dandy." - Ed Dolan
Thanks for clearing that up ED. Your non-responsiveness, repetition, and
snipping of the subject matter prove yet again that you are a lightweight
and an idiot.
But, just so we have our facts straight, you're the one who claimed to be
educated *and* a "man of the world". Clearly, both of those claims are
untrue. An educated person would know the definition of a "man of the
world", and your stated aversion to sexuality rules you out as being a "man
of the world".
>
> > You clearly lack experience in many important areas of life (women, sex,
> > social skills, etc.), and you are continually shocked and disgusted by
> > common forms of behavior...so, by any rational analysis, you're not a
"man
> > of the world".
>
> "A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
> idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
> fine
> and dandy." - Ed Dolan
>
> By the way, I have traveled extensively all over the world and I have
> encountered no cultures where it is acceptable to boast about one's sexual
> prowess in public. Only complete slobs and reprobates do that sort of
thing.
Where have I boasted about my sexual prowess? I've said I have an active
and enjoyable sex life...so what? Sex is a natural form of human activity
and emotional and physical expression. That you are so afraid of it ks
you as aberrant.
> Sex outside of riage is universally condemned and excoriated. The
family
> and its values reign supreme everywhere.
Oh, poor, ED...you live such a sheltered and sad life.
BTW - it's ironic that you should talk about "family values", when you've
lived your life as a misogynistic celibate.
GG
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 13 Mar 2006 01:01:57
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
"GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com > wrote in message
news:X%7Rf.695$ts.579@fe05.lga...
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:XcCdnX9vqaA0lYjZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
[...]
>> "A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
>> idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is just
>> fine
>> and dandy." - Ed Dolan
>
> Thanks for clearing that up ED. Your non-responsiveness, repetition, and
> snipping of the subject matter prove yet again that you are a lightweight
> and an idiot.
>
> But, just so we have our facts straight, you're the one who claimed to be
> educated *and* a "man of the world". Clearly, both of those claims are
> untrue. An educated person would know the definition of a "man of the
> world", and your stated aversion to sexuality rules you out as being a
> "man
> of the world".
Nope, you have your definition and I have mine. You are a sexual slob and
moral cretin to boot. You are not my man of the world, unless that world be
some kind of underworld.
[...]
>> By the way, I have traveled extensively all over the world and I have
>> encountered no cultures where it is acceptable to boast about one's
>> sexual
>> prowess in public. Only complete slobs and reprobates do that sort of
> thing.
>
> Where have I boasted about my sexual prowess? I've said I have an active
> and enjoyable sex life...so what? Sex is a natural form of human activity
> and emotional and physical expression. That you are so afraid of it ks
> you as aberrant.
There! You just said it again! You are an immoral slob of the first rank. In
a traditional culture, you would be taken out and stoned to death. Sex is
only for the ried and only for the purpose of creating new life (babies).
This is just all so elementary I feel like I am talking to a child about the
birds and the bees.
>> Sex outside of riage is universally condemned and excoriated. The
> family
>> and its values reign supreme everywhere.
>
> Oh, poor, ED...you live such a sheltered and sad life.
>
> BTW - it's ironic that you should talk about "family values", when you've
> lived your life as a misogynistic celibate.
There is almost no person alive today who did not come out of a family. Of
course, I realize that GaryG may not have come out of a family since his
morality is so skewed.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 23:59:08
From: GaryG
Subject: Re: ED - "man of the world" - LOL!
|
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:1-OdnX9iOP5whYjZRVn-uw@prairiewave.com...
>
> "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com> wrote in message
> news:X%7Rf.695$ts.579@fe05.lga...
> > "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> > news:XcCdnX9vqaA0lYjZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
> [...]
> >> "A shameless fornicator who boasts of it on a public forum is hardly my
> >> idea of a man of the world, but maybe that is what liberals think is
just
> >> fine
> >> and dandy." - Ed Dolan
> >
> > Thanks for clearing that up ED. Your non-responsiveness, repetition,
and
> > snipping of the subject matter prove yet again that you are a
lightweight
> > and an idiot.
> >
> > But, just so we have our facts straight, you're the one who claimed to
be
> > educated *and* a "man of the world". Clearly, both of those claims are
> > untrue. An educated person would know the definition of a "man of the
> > world", and your stated aversion to sexuality rules you out as being a
> > "man
> > of the world".
>
> Nope, you have your definition and I have mine. You are a sexual slob and
> moral cretin to boot. You are not my man of the world, unless that world
be
> some kind of underworld.
ED, you moron...I didn't claim to be a man of the world...you did! I merely
pointed out the common definition* of the expression, and noted that you
cannot be considered to fall within that definition.
You claim to be educated, so you should know better than to use the "you
have your definition and I have mine" argument. Words have meanings, as you
should know, and you can't alter them just to try and avoid looking stupid
(again).
* A "man of the world" is an idiomatic expression, meaning "someone who
has a lot of experience of life, and is not usually shocked by the way
people behave."
> [...]
>
> >> By the way, I have traveled extensively all over the world and I have
> >> encountered no cultures where it is acceptable to boast about one's
> >> sexual
> >> prowess in public. Only complete slobs and reprobates do that sort of
> > thing.
> >
> > Where have I boasted about my sexual prowess? I've said I have an
active
> > and enjoyable sex life...so what? Sex is a natural form of human
activity
> > and emotional and physical expression. That you are so afraid of it
ks
> > you as aberrant.
>
> There! You just said it again! You are an immoral slob of the first rank.
In
> a traditional culture, you would be taken out and stoned to death. Sex is
> only for the ried and only for the purpose of creating new life
(babies).
That's clearly a reflection of your fear of sexuality...most people don't
have your intense inhibitions and fears when it comes to something as
natural as sex.
> This is just all so elementary I feel like I am talking to a child about
the
> birds and the bees.
Here's hoping that never happens in the real world.
GG
>
> >> Sex outside of riage is universally condemned and excoriated. The
> > family
> >> and its values reign supreme everywhere.
> >
> > Oh, poor, ED...you live such a sheltered and sad life.
> >
> > BTW - it's ironic that you should talk about "family values", when
you've
> > lived your life as a misogynistic celibate.
>
> There is almost no person alive today who did not come out of a family. Of
> course, I realize that GaryG may not have come out of a family since his
> morality is so skewed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 13 Mar 2006 02:56:51
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: ED - "man of the world" - LOL!
|
"GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com > wrote in message
news:4D9Rf.1341$CZ2.1120@fe07.lga...
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:1-OdnX9iOP5whYjZRVn-uw@prairiewave.com...
[...]
>> Nope, you have your definition and I have mine. You are a sexual slob and
>> moral cretin to boot. You are not my man of the world, unless that world
> be
>> some kind of underworld.
>
> ED, you moron...I didn't claim to be a man of the world...you did! I
> merely
> pointed out the common definition* of the expression, and noted that you
> cannot be considered to fall within that definition.
>
> You claim to be educated, so you should know better than to use the "you
> have your definition and I have mine" argument. Words have meanings, as
> you
> should know, and you can't alter them just to try and avoid looking stupid
> (again).
>
> * A "man of the world" is an idiomatic expression, meaning "someone who
> has a lot of experience of life, and is not usually shocked by the way
> people behave."
[...]
Screw that definition! A man of the world is someone who has some
sophistication. It has absolutely nothing to do with approving immorality.
The village idiot has no sophistication and is therefore not a man of the
world. Someone who has been to most of the capitals of Europe and enjoyed
various cultural events has some sophistication and is therefore a man of
the world. I am such a man and I heartily condemn all immorality. Therefore,
there is something wrong with your definition. Elementary, my dear Watson!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 09:30:48
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
Well a certain racist, sexist, very frequent poster has finally demonstrated
in one of his recent postings that he is clearly on the other side of
sanity. If there is no hope of a rational discussion then I don't need to
have the discussion. I also don't need to read racist and sexist drivel. So
my filter is in place. There could be 50 replies from said person and I
wouldn't see any of them. I also don't have to see his postings about what a
wonderful and saintly human being he considers himself to be.
Cheers,
Jeff
"Ken C. M." <kencmjr-nospam@netzero.net > wrote in message
news:GL2dnZulYrvAlonZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Jeff Grippe wrote:
>> Well I finally learned how to filter messages in Outlook Express. I have
>> setup two rules. One of them deletes messages from a specific person. The
>> other one deletes messages about a specific person.
>>
>> Note to specific person (you know who you are): Don't bother responding.
>> I won't see the response.
>>
>> My apology to this group for being an active participant in the
>> discussions for so long. I enjoy a good political or philosophical
>> discussion but in order to have one you need a sane human being on the
>> other side. I am a pretty far left liberal and I have some great friends
>> that are pretty far right conservatives. All of them are sane, however.
>> If this generates a return rant from a certain person then I apologize
>> yet again. BTW I am not mentioning his name or my own message would be
>> "kill filed" from me. This is the last message you will see from me
>> regarding this person.
>>
>> If anyone uses OE and needs help setting up rules I would be happy to
>> help you. I have finally had enough.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeff
> Filters can be your friend. BUT you have to be pretty annoying to get into
> my filter list. I don't think I have added anyone to the filters since the
> highracer blog guy stopped posting his dribble.
>
> Ken
> --
> You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
> having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles
>
> Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 09:38:11
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
Jeff Grippe wrote:
> Well a certain racist, sexist, very frequent poster has finally demonstrated
> in one of his recent postings that he is clearly on the other side of
> sanity. If there is no hope of a rational discussion then I don't need to
> have the discussion. I also don't need to read racist and sexist drivel. So
> my filter is in place. There could be 50 replies from said person and I
> wouldn't see any of them. I also don't have to see his postings about what a
> wonderful and saintly human being he considers himself to be.
Well I tend to agree with you in general. I see no reason for some of
the things that get posted to some newsgroups. But mostly I just use an
adaptive filter, the human mind. I find it works just as good or better
than technical filters. Besides sometimes people who post dribble also
post things I consider worth reading and wouldn't want to miss those posts.
Ken
-
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles
Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 13:31:49
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
I tried that approach for a good long time and the evidence is there to see.
I don't even mind the NG going off topic but I have reached my limit with
one individual in particular. In this one case, I'm not worried about
missing anything important and I'm sure the volumes that I am missing are
better off missed.
Jeff
"Ken C. M." <kencmjr-nospam@netzero.net > wrote in message
news:PdSdnZVkK9HOr4nZRVn-sw@giganews.com...
> Jeff Grippe wrote:
>> Well a certain racist, sexist, very frequent poster has finally
>> demonstrated in one of his recent postings that he is clearly on the
>> other side of sanity. If there is no hope of a rational discussion then I
>> don't need to have the discussion. I also don't need to read racist and
>> sexist drivel. So my filter is in place. There could be 50 replies from
>> said person and I wouldn't see any of them. I also don't have to see his
>> postings about what a wonderful and saintly human being he considers
>> himself to be.
>
> Well I tend to agree with you in general. I see no reason for some of the
> things that get posted to some newsgroups. But mostly I just use an
> adaptive filter, the human mind. I find it works just as good or better
> than technical filters. Besides sometimes people who post dribble also
> post things I consider worth reading and wouldn't want to miss those
> posts.
>
> Ken
> -
> You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
> having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles
>
> Homepage: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/
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Date: 12 Mar 2006 18:23:46
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A Statement and an Aploogy
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote in message
news:1218q4tccc40h5e@news.supernews.com...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>I tried that approach for a good long time and the evidence is there to
>see. I don't even mind the NG going off topic but I have reached my limit
>with one individual in particular. In this one case, I'm not worried about
>missing anything important and I'm sure the volumes that I am missing are
>better off missed.
Will anyone on these newsgroups miss Jeff Grippe if he were to drop dead?
Hardly! He is nothing if not a walking paradigm of every liberal nostrum
that has ever failed in the past century.
But he is a fool if he thinks he can now say anything that flits into his
dunderhead without getting a riposte from the Great One. He had better not
get off-topic with his liberal smut as Ed Dolan the Great will know how to
deal with him and his noxious views.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> "Ken C. M." <kencmjr-nospam@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:PdSdnZVkK9HOr4nZRVn-sw@giganews.com...
>> Jeff Grippe wrote:
>>> Well a certain racist, sexist, very frequent poster has finally
>>> demonstrated in one of his recent postings that he is clearly on the
>>> other side of sanity. If there is no hope of a rational discussion then
>>> I don't need to have the discussion. I also don't need to read racist
>>> and sexist drivel. So my filter is in place. There could be 50 replies
>>> from said person and I wouldn't see any of them. I also don't have to
>>> see his postings about what a wonderful and saintly human being he
>>> considers himself to be.
>>
>> Well I tend to agree with you in general. I see no reason for some of the
>> things that get posted to some newsgroups. But mostly I just use an
>> adaptive filter, the human mind. I find it works just as good or better
>> than technical filters. Besides sometimes people who post dribble also
>> post things I consider worth reading and wouldn't want to miss those
>> posts.
>>
>> Ken
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