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Date: 14 May 2006 07:52:13
From: NYC XYZ
Subject: Asian Recumbents
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I think this is one of ActionBents' links on their
website...interesting to see some of the Asian recumbent designs.
Seems much more varied than what we see out of Europe and North
America! Not sure if any of them hold a candle to the HP Velo SMGTe
for comfort, though -- or to one of the Challenge speedsters for
speed...but interesting to see, all the same! Particularly as they
seem like every-day low-maintenance kind of machines, the sort you just
pick up and go with and not really worry about.
I wonder in which Asian country recumbents will first really pick up
and take off...China, with its tradition of bike-riding; Taiwan, where
most bikes are (had been?) made; Japan, whose citizens love novelty and
gadgets and funny-looking contraptions? One big factor *against*
"recumbency" would be the typically tight spaces of most Asian
environments, plus the some of the worst impulses of '50s-era US auto
culture....
http://batcha.dtdns.net:2280/clocker/030316arakawa/index.htm
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Date: 21 May 2006 10:51:04
From: drydem
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> drydem wrote:
> > NYC XYZ wrote:
> >
> >
> > The hi speed man power recumbent cycle systems
> > have a wind canopy to reduce wind drag. Hi speed man
> > power vehicles can go very fast when a properly trained
> > athlete is running it. The low drag profile of
> > the recumbent frame might also lend itself to improving
> > the speed of a man power flying vehicle.
>
>
> A recent issue of "Velo Vision" magazine from the UK has a short
> article on just such a contraption[1]. The Frenchman, IIRC, has already
> flown the pedal-powered zepplin over land and water, and his goal is a
> trans-Atlantic flight!
I was referring to a heavier-than air flying machines
not lighter-than-air flying machines.
Here is photo of a heavier than air human powered flying machine (69
lbs)
which is designed around a a recumbent cycle frame
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Photo/Daedalus/Large/index.html
which of course is not the only one...
below is some photos of other human powered flying vehicles
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/j_d_mcintyre/news.HTM
if you look closer at the above website you'll
find downloadable plans to build one...
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/j_d_mcintyre/hpag.htm
[1] Pedals in the air - A human-powered airship prepares for a
Channel crossing - before tackling the Atlantic. Velo Vision. Issue.
#19. Sept 2005. page 14
http://www.velovision.co.uk/cgi-bin/show_comments.pl?storynum=733
( I was unable to find a sumy )
However, here is an example of a lighter than air human powered airship
called "The white Dwarf" .....
http://home.teleport.com/%7Ereedg/whitedwarf.html
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Date: 18 May 2006 20:59:22
From: NYC XYZ
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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drydem wrote:
> NYC XYZ wrote:
>
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> The hi speed man power recumbent cycle systems
> have a wind canopy to reduce wind drag. Hi speed man
> power vehicles can go very fast when a properly trained
> athlete is running it. The low drag profile of
> the recumbent frame might also lend itself to improving
> the speed of a man power flying vehicle.
A recent issue of "Velo Vision" magazine from the UK has a short
article on just such a contraption. The Frenchman, IIRC, has already
flown the pedal-powered zepplin over land and water, and his goal is a
trans-Atlantic flight!
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Date: 17 May 2006 17:43:49
From: drydem
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> drydem wrote:
> > one of them looks like a bicycle drive fitted onto a portable scooter
> > frame.
> >
> > The low rider cycle frame look like cycling frames used by hi speed
> > man power vehicles san the shell.
>
>
> Pretty cool, huh, Walt?
>
> Oh, here're some videos from another page of the site:
>
> http://batcha.dtdns.net:2280/clocker/1102-05suzuka/index.htm
The hi speed man power recumbent cycle systems
have a wind canopy to reduce wind drag. Hi speed man
power vehicles can go very fast when a properly trained
athlete is running it. The low drag profile of
the recumbent frame might also lend itself to improving
the speed of a man power flying vehicle.
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Date: 14 May 2006 12:57:19
From: NYC XYZ
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
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> My favorite is the square-tubed front-wheel drive one. Makes me want to
> go dig my welder out of the garage.
>
> Joseph
It's awful small, though...in another photo (from one of the dozen of
links on the main page), a guy trying to walk it has to really stoop
over -- on bended knees!
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Date: 14 May 2006 12:08:42
From:
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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NYC XYZ wrote:
> I think this is one of ActionBents' links on their
> website...interesting to see some of the Asian recumbent designs.
> Seems much more varied than what we see out of Europe and North
> America! Not sure if any of them hold a candle to the HP Velo SMGTe
> for comfort, though -- or to one of the Challenge speedsters for
> speed...but interesting to see, all the same! Particularly as they
> seem like every-day low-maintenance kind of machines, the sort you just
> pick up and go with and not really worry about.
>
> I wonder in which Asian country recumbents will first really pick up
> and take off...China, with its tradition of bike-riding; Taiwan, where
> most bikes are (had been?) made; Japan, whose citizens love novelty and
> gadgets and funny-looking contraptions? One big factor *against*
> "recumbency" would be the typically tight spaces of most Asian
> environments, plus the some of the worst impulses of '50s-era US auto
> culture....
>
>
> http://batcha.dtdns.net:2280/clocker/030316arakawa/index.htm
My favorite is the square-tubed front-wheel drive one. Makes me want to
go dig my welder out of the garage.
Joseph
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Date: 14 May 2006 09:59:57
From: NYC XYZ
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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drydem wrote:
> one of them looks like a bicycle drive fitted onto a portable scooter
> frame.
>
> The low rider cycle frame look like cycling frames used by hi speed
> man power vehicles san the shell.
Pretty cool, huh, Walt?
Oh, here're some videos from another page of the site:
http://batcha.dtdns.net:2280/clocker/1102-05suzuka/index.htm
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Date: 14 May 2006 08:48:48
From: drydem
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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one of them looks like a bicycle drive fitted onto a portable scooter
frame.
The low rider cycle frame look like cycling frames used by hi speed
man power vehicles san the shell.
NYC XYZ wrote:
> I think this is one of ActionBents' links on their
> website...interesting to see some of the Asian recumbent designs.
> Seems much more varied than what we see out of Europe and North
> America! Not sure if any of them hold a candle to the HP Velo SMGTe
> for comfort, though -- or to one of the Challenge speedsters for
> speed...but interesting to see, all the same! Particularly as they
> seem like every-day low-maintenance kind of machines, the sort you just
> pick up and go with and not really worry about.
>
> I wonder in which Asian country recumbents will first really pick up
> and take off...China, with its tradition of bike-riding; Taiwan, where
> most bikes are (had been?) made; Japan, whose citizens love novelty and
> gadgets and funny-looking contraptions? One big factor *against*
> "recumbency" would be the typically tight spaces of most Asian
> environments, plus the some of the worst impulses of '50s-era US auto
> culture....
>
>
> http://batcha.dtdns.net:2280/clocker/030316arakawa/index.htm
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Date: 14 May 2006 14:12:13
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Asian Recumbents
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drydem wrote:
> one of them looks like a bicycle drive fitted onto a portable scooter
> frame.
>
> The low rider cycle frame look like cycling frames used by hi speed
> man power vehicles san the shell.
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>
>
What photo number are you talking about?
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Most of the "utilitarian" bikes seem to be home-made flevobikes.
It's interesting to see all the tiny-wheel bikes though, uprights and
bents--probably most of them are folding bikes, very popular in Japan I
know (can be taken on mass-transit). Not any long bikes at all; there's
the combo-tandem but I don't see one LWB anywhere.....
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