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Date: 27 Apr 2005 22:59:45
From: Ed Gin
Subject: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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For those who follow BROL and their ideals, a priy objective as of
late is the elimination of any references to Monkey Island specifically
as they claim the site's posts posed a disastrous effect on their little
niche of a community.
Just yesterday, SJ the owner of the now defunct Monkey Island site
stipulated he has the weblogs to prove the source of the vile posts from
the isle.
Apparantly upstanding members of the recumbent community AND
manufacturers were the responsible parties!
BROL, it's members, siteowner Bryan Ball, and it's manufacturers /
advertisers need look no further than themselves for their source of
anguish and concern.
This occurance adds to the string of corruption within BROL's own ranks
as they fail to acknowledge their own faults and continue to point the
finger elsewhere. Their policy of banning, editing, and deleting
posts is ludricous.
The below material was onsite for 4 hours prior to removal.
Interestingly, BROL left the rest of the post intact. See it at their
forums under HPV racing, last page of RAMM revisited thread.
Clearly a case of censorship, fear, and denial of facts presented,
BROL is a fine example of hypocrisy.
Ed Gin
Below is the portion excised:
I have the weblogs to prove it. The worshipful 'bent masses would be
VERY surprised to see which "leading and upstanding" members of the
recumbent community --including manufacturers -- were among the most
vile posters on Monkey Island -- may it rest in peace.
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Date: 29 Apr 2005 09:58:09
From:
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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AL Lumiminium,
Nice guy? Yeah right. Why don't you tow get ried. You'd make a
nice couple.
Monkey Islanders,
Ed Gin, Alan Arial and the rest of you Monkey Islanders, do us all a
favor and kindly take leave of ARBR's uncensored sanctuary. Your
monkey crap is once again beginning to pile up and stink up the place.
With the exception of your small circle of adolescent Monkey Islanders
who have forged a supportive alliance, you have no friends here.
You've trashed all who ride anything but a recumbent and all who don't
ride a lowracer, and all who don't ride fast, forum moderators,
respected members in the recumbent arena including manufacturers, and
the list goes on and on. Rather than encourage caaderie and unity
through diversity, you have systematically wreaked created havoc on
every forum that you have infested with your profuse stream of
worthless drivel. Deservedly so, you have been banned and censored
countless times. Ask yourself ... just who is the common denominator
in all this? You need look no further than yourselves ... and the
"myopic visionaries" that comprise you obnoxious Lilliputian lowracer
community of hooligans. Monkey Island was a suitable residence for
your lot and your juvenile shenanigans, isolated from the cycling
circles that you are so contemptuous of. You are no more welcome here
than you are on moderated forums that find you objectionable. Allow me
to suggest that you put your tail between your legs and return to
Monkey Island where you belong.
Jim McNaa
Al Luminium wrote:
> "blah blah blah" <howdy@nowhere.snafu> wrote in message
> news:tq1371leq4327mqdm8b5vp3vvu5p5950ch@4ax.com...
> > After all your childish ravings about a certain bike that were
> > plastered all over usenet, do you really think anyone gives a shit
> > about anything you have to say on any subject at all?
> >
> > I am glad you are banned from BROL. It is a much nicer place
because
> > you are not there.
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, you can eat shit and bark at the moon.
>
> Ya know what? Ed's a pretty nice guy, but whomever the fuck you are,
your a
> moronic piece of shit. You should go back to BROL and stick you
tongue up
> Bryan's ass, you syncophantic dickwad.
>
>
>
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 19:26:39
From:
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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blah blah blah wrote:
> After all your childish ravings about a certain bike that were
> plastered all over usenet, do you really think anyone gives a shit
> about anything you have to say on any subject at all?
>
> I am glad you are banned from BROL. It is a much nicer place because
> you are not there.
>
> As far as I am concerned, you can eat shit and bark at the moon.
ROTFLMAO! This diatribe makes BROL so much more enjoyable and
civilized. This "my tinker-toy beats your tinker-toy" nonsense is so
stupid, that it is enjoyable (as well as cheap advertising for
tinker-toys). Gotta spend dieing recumbent days somehow! (Or didn't
I hear that question in 1992?)
Santa Cruz is doing a big turn around- from bike friendly to a bike
unfriendly place; with no recumbents as in past years, no mayors ride
show, lousy roads with those dangerous patches, car drivers acting like
left overs from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome- addicted to oil, and so on.
Between this nocom, frequent religious jabs and this unvanishing tempt
of intellectual one-up-manship ; this keyboard pastime is humorous as
well as a way to spend time.
With the highboys vanishing from Santa Cruz, I will have to find
something else to beat soundly. Until then I have imaginary babbling
to pacify my spare time on the computer.
And Gee! Aren't those tinker-toys durable! (hee hee hee).
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 20:04:29
From: blah blah blah
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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After all your childish ravings about a certain bike that were
plastered all over usenet, do you really think anyone gives a shit
about anything you have to say on any subject at all?
I am glad you are banned from BROL. It is a much nicer place because
you are not there.
As far as I am concerned, you can eat shit and bark at the moon.
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 21:11:43
From: Al Luminium
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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"blah blah blah" <howdy@nowhere.snafu > wrote in message
news:tq1371leq4327mqdm8b5vp3vvu5p5950ch@4ax.com...
> After all your childish ravings about a certain bike that were
> plastered all over usenet, do you really think anyone gives a shit
> about anything you have to say on any subject at all?
>
> I am glad you are banned from BROL. It is a much nicer place because
> you are not there.
>
> As far as I am concerned, you can eat shit and bark at the moon.
Ya know what? Ed's a pretty nice guy, but whomever the fuck you are, your a
moronic piece of shit. You should go back to BROL and stick you tongue up
Bryan's ass, you syncophantic dickwad.
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 09:19:36
From:
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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HEAD Gin,
Yeah, like freedom of speech existed on Monkey Island? Bullshit! On
several occasions, you boasted how I was banned and could no longer
post. It appeared that way because MadRatorMan (read Ed-Monkey Island
forum moderator-Gin) deleted every post I made no matter how innocuous.
Why? Because I made it and that was more than reason enough. How
telling. You castigate BROL and refer to the policy of banning and
deleting of posts as ludicrous. Have you forgotten that this is
precisely what you did in your capacity as Monkey Island's forum
moderator? What's ludicrous is that you only consider this to be
ludicrous when you're the "victim". I guess it's all just a
matter of perspective. It's amazing how when the tables are turned,
one's perspective changes as well. With umbrage, you express your
disdain for BROL's (Bryan Ball's) hypocrisy. You call BROL and Bryan
Ball to task for doing the very same things that you did in your
capacity as Monkey Island's forum moderator, but it wasn't hypocritical
when you were doing it ... was it? How peculiar. I refer you to my
previous statement about the turning of tables and change in
perspective. So, in the final analysis, just how different was Monkey
Island than BROL in this particular respect that you are objecting to?
Well, not different at all really. What we basically have here is a
case of the pot calling the kettle black. Now that's what I'd call
ludicrous. That's what I'd call hypocrisy. When are you going to stop
accusing others of things that you yourself are guilty of? You know
... he who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones.
Jim
P.S. From the other responses here, it would appear that the
readiership is finally beginning to understand you for what and who you
are and it is about time too.
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Date: 29 Apr 2005 00:29:49
From: nget
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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Ed Gin Wrote:
> For those who follow BROL and their ideals, a priy objective as of
> late is the elimination of any references to Monkey Islan
> specifically
> as they claim the site's posts posed a disastrous effect on thei
> little
> niche of a community.
>
> Just yesterday, SJ the owner of the now defunct Monkey Island site
> stipulated he has the weblogs to prove the source of the vile post
> from
> the isle.
>
> Apparantly upstanding members of the recumbent community AND
> manufacturers were the responsible parties!
>
> BROL, it's members, siteowner Bryan Ball, and it's manufacturers /
> advertisers need look no further than themselves for their source of
> anguish and concern.
>
> This occurance adds to the string of corruption within BROL's ow
> ranks
> as they fail to acknowledge their own faults and continue to point the
> finger elsewhere. Their policy of banning, editing, and deleting
> posts is ludricous.
>
> The below material was onsite for 4 hours prior to removal.
> Interestingly, BROL left the rest of the post intact. See it a
> their
> forums under HPV racing, last page of RAMM revisited thread.
>
> Clearly a case of censorship, fear, and denial of facts presented,
> BROL is a fine example of hypocrisy.
>
> Ed Gin
>
> Below is the portion excised:
>
> I have the weblogs to prove it. The worshipful 'bent masses would be
> VERY surprised to see which "leading and upstanding" members of the
> recumbent community --including manufacturers -- were among the most
> vile posters on Monkey Island -- may it rest in peace.
Is it not whitewashing with a wide brush that will set things arigh
with the bent world.If you have a credibility problem whose fault i
it?Agood name has great value in this world,you should look at getting
one
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nget
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 07:49:12
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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"Ed Gin" <edgin@sbcglobal.net > wrote and cross posted
[newsgroups trimmed]
> Clearly a case of censorship,
Perhaps, but only within the context of private publishing
choices.
> BROL is a fine example of [...]
Private enterprise.
> [...] hypocrisy.
Such assertions seem well suited for a pot and kettle
didactic color commentary. Betting on the dead horse
to win, place, or show?
Jon Meinecke
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 12:22:49
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: BROL a study in hypocrisy and corruption
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:59:45 GMT, Ed Gin <edgin@sbcglobal.net > wrote:
>For those who follow BROL and their ideals, a priy objective as of
>late is the elimination of any references to Monkey Island specifically
>as they claim the site's posts posed a disastrous effect on their little
>niche of a community.
Here is a full and exhaustive list of all those who care:
That is all.
Guy
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