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Date: 05 Jun 2006 03:32:14
From: Grolch
Subject: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.


Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce the
garbage if everybodies being baited.






 
Date: 17 Jun 2006 14:49:42
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2006 22:09:26 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> >> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> >> >> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >> >> >> >> interesting
> >> >> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
> >> >> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
> >> >> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> would say.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
> >> >> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
> >> >> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
> >> >> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> >> >> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jim McNaa
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
> >> >> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
> >> >> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
> >> >> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
> >> >> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
> >> >> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
> >> >> >> know my true worth!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
> >> >> >second thought, pleass do.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Jim McNaa
> >> >>
> >> >> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
> >> >> human race has expired?
> >> >
> >> >Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
> >> >statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
> >> >tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
> >> >certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
> >> >membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
> >> >over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
> >> >follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
> >> >consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
> >> >another. Have you set a date yet?
> >>
> >> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
> >
> >Obviously, like Dolan. you have run out of material and have to resort
> >to repetition. How creative ... NOT!!!.
>
> Obviously, you can't read. Ed didn't write that.

Obviously, you can't read and furthermore, you are as perceptive as the
average tree stump. The comment was directected at its author ... you
... dunderhead.

Jim McNaa

> >> >> >> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
> >> >> >> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> >> >> aka
> >> >> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
> >> >> >> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
> >> >> >> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
> >> >> ===
> >> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> >> >>
> >> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> >> ===
> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> >>
> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



 
Date: 17 Jun 2006 14:13:50
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Edward Dolan wrote:
> <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1150175216.848314.283230@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> >> wrote:
> [...]
> >> >Jim McNaa is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust
> >> >me
> >> >on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most
> >> >longwinded
> >> >adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a
> >> >candle
> >> >to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
> >>
> >> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
> >> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
> >> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
> >> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
> >> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
> >> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.
> >
> > ... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
> > describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
> > has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
>
> Here is Jim playing at being the asshole yet once again - or is he one for
> real?

Opinion state ad fact. Truth hurts doesn' t, Ed???

> > Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
> > prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
> > (particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
> > his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
> > of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
> > audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.
>
> The Great Ed Dolan posts mainly to ARBR to tweak all the idiots, morons and
> imbeciles who infest the group like the plague. Jim is about par for the
> group, although he is into nothing but his vendettas and has become that
> most pitiful of all creatures, a stalker. Very sad!

Yeah whatever ... same old nonsense and whining.

> Beyond
> > the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
> > differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
> > Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.
>
> Jim should never attempt wit as it is the one thing he sorely lacks. He does
> best at being earnest, the importance of which never seems to escape him.
> Hmm ... I think someone once wrote a play entitled "The Importance of Being
> Earnest." This is required reading for Jim if you ask me.

You wouldn't know wit if it slppae up upside your hard head. Look ....
no one takes you seriously, so why bother offering your worthless
opinions? Here's a book for your reading pleasure ... How to Win
Friends and Influence People, speaking of required reading for the
HEADward the GRATE.

Jim McNaa

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



 
Date: 12 Jun 2006 22:09:26
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> >> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >> >> >> interesting
> >> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
> >> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
> >> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> would say.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
> >> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
> >> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
> >> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> >> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jim McNaa
> >> >>
> >> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
> >> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
> >> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
> >> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
> >> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
> >> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
> >> >> know my true worth!
> >> >
> >> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
> >> >second thought, pleass do.
> >> >
> >> >Jim McNaa
> >>
> >> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
> >> human race has expired?
> >
> >Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
> >statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
> >tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
> >certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
> >membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
> >over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
> >follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
> >consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
> >another. Have you set a date yet?
>
> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.

Obviously, like Dolan. you have run out of material and have to resort
to repetition. How creative ... NOT!!!.

Jim McNaa

> >> >> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
> >> >> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> >> aka
> >> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
> >> >> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
> >> >> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
> >> ===
> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> >>
> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



  
Date: 13 Jun 2006 16:17:47
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On 12 Jun 2006 22:09:26 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> >> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>> >> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>> >> >> >> interesting
>> >> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
>> >> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
>> >> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> would say.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
>> >> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
>> >> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
>> >> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>> >> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jim McNaa
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
>> >> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
>> >> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
>> >> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
>> >> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
>> >> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
>> >> >> know my true worth!
>> >> >
>> >> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>> >> >second thought, pleass do.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jim McNaa
>> >>
>> >> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>> >> human race has expired?
>> >
>> >Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>> >statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>> >tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>> >certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>> >membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>> >over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>> >follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>> >consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>> >another. Have you set a date yet?
>>
>> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>
>Obviously, like Dolan. you have run out of material and have to resort
>to repetition. How creative ... NOT!!!.

Obviously, you can't read. Ed didn't write that.

>Jim McNaa
>
>> >> >> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
>> >> >> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >> >> aka
>> >> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
>> >> >> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
>> >> >> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
>> >> ===
>> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>> >>
>> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


 
Date: 12 Jun 2006 22:06:56
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
> >> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no
> >>>> >> >> > troll
> >>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
> >>>> >> >> > reduce
> >>>> >> >> > the
> >>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >>>> >> >> interesting
> >>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you
> >>>> >> >> kill
> >>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
> >>>> >> >> most
> >>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
> >>>> >> >> myself who
> >>>> >> >> are
> >>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities
> >>>> >> >> right
> >>>> >> >> I
> >>>> >> >> would say.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both
> >>>> >> > have
> >>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
> >>>> >> > figuratively
> >>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
> >>>> >> > you.
> >>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> >>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Jim McNaa
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
> >>>> >> That is
> >>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
> >>>> >> doubt
> >>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
> >>>> >> urge
> >>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
> >>>> >> admire
> >>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
> >>>> >> me how
> >>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
> >>>> >> Beethoven, I
> >>>> >> know my true worth!
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
> >>>> >second thought, pleass do.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Jim McNaa
> >>>>
> >>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
> >>>> human race has expired?
> >>>
> >>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
> >>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
> >>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
> >>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
> >>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
> >>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
> >>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
> >>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
> >>>another. Have you set a date yet?
> >>
> >> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
> >
> >Jim McNaa is own of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
> >on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
> >adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
> >to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
>
> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.

... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim McNaa

> Since you are a
> much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to beat me at
> this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and the Oral
> History folks drooling over their laptops already....
>
> I have never been that
> >short with him and so he and I will go round and round for all eternity,
> >just like you and Curtiss do. I think it is part of Usenet to get stuck with
> >characters like these and I have gotten used to it. The only question is,
> >who has more time to waste, me or Jim?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >aka
> >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



  
Date: 13 Jun 2006 16:15:47
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On 12 Jun 2006 22:06:56 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
>> >> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> >>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no
>> >>>> >> >> > troll
>> >>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
>> >>>> >> >> > reduce
>> >>>> >> >> > the
>> >>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>> >>>> >> >> interesting
>> >>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you
>> >>>> >> >> kill
>> >>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
>> >>>> >> >> most
>> >>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
>> >>>> >> >> myself who
>> >>>> >> >> are
>> >>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities
>> >>>> >> >> right
>> >>>> >> >> I
>> >>>> >> >> would say.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both
>> >>>> >> > have
>> >>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
>> >>>> >> > figuratively
>> >>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
>> >>>> >> > you.
>> >>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>> >>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Jim McNaa
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
>> >>>> >> That is
>> >>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
>> >>>> >> doubt
>> >>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
>> >>>> >> urge
>> >>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
>> >>>> >> admire
>> >>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
>> >>>> >> me how
>> >>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
>> >>>> >> Beethoven, I
>> >>>> >> know my true worth!
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>> >>>> >second thought, pleass do.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Jim McNaa
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>> >>>> human race has expired?
>> >>>
>> >>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>> >>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>> >>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>> >>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>> >>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>> >>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>> >>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>> >>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>> >>>another. Have you set a date yet?
>> >>
>> >> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>> >
>> >Jim McNaa is own of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
>> >on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
>> >adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
>> >to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
>>
>> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
>> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
>> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
>> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
>> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
>> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.
>
>... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
>describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
>has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
>Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
>prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
>(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
>his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
>of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
>audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.

At least Ed is entertaining. You guys' posts are WORTHLESS. No
redeeming value whatsoever.

Beyond
>the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
>differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
>Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Have your mommy look up "homophobia" in the dictionary.

>Jim McNaa
>
>> Since you are a
>> much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to beat me at
>> this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and the Oral
>> History folks drooling over their laptops already....
>>
>> I have never been that
>> >short with him and so he and I will go round and round for all eternity,
>> >just like you and Curtiss do. I think it is part of Usenet to get stuck with
>> >characters like these and I have gotten used to it. The only question is,
>> >who has more time to waste, me or Jim?
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >aka
>> >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>> >
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


  
Date: 13 Jun 2006 10:34:45
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1150175216.848314.283230@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>> wrote:
[...]
>> >Jim McNaa is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust
>> >me
>> >on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most
>> >longwinded
>> >adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a
>> >candle
>> >to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
>>
>> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
>> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
>> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
>> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
>> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
>> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.
>
> ... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
> describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
> has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.

Here is Jim playing at being the asshole yet once again - or is he one for
real?

> Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
> prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
> (particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
> his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
> of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
> audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.

The Great Ed Dolan posts mainly to ARBR to tweak all the idiots, morons and
imbeciles who infest the group like the plague. Jim is about par for the
group, although he is into nothing but his vendettas and has become that
most pitiful of all creatures, a stalker. Very sad!

Beyond
> the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
> differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
> Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim should never attempt wit as it is the one thing he sorely lacks. He does
best at being earnest, the importance of which never seems to escape him.
Hmm ... I think someone once wrote a play entitled "The Importance of Being
Earnest." This is required reading for Jim if you ask me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




  
Date: 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12
From: Sven Hobenstein
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
<Snip of troll drivel >
>
> ... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
> describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
> has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
> Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
> prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
> (particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
> his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
> of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
> audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
> the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
> differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
> Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.
>
> Jim McNaa
>
<snip of more troll crap >

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!




   
Date: 13 Jun 2006 16:16:33
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Why Do Mountain Bikers Always Resort to VIOLENCE? (was Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.)
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12 -0400, "Sven Hobenstein" <SVHob@ums.edu >
wrote:

><Snip of troll drivel>
>>
>> ... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
>> describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
>> has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
>> Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
>> prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
>> (particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
>> his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
>> of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
>> audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
>> the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
>> differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
>> Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.
>>
>> Jim McNaa
>>
><snip of more troll crap>
>
>AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


 
Date: 12 Jun 2006 21:58:22
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
> > On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no
> >>> >> >> > troll
> >>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
> >>> >> >> > reduce
> >>> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >>> >> >> interesting
> >>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you
> >>> >> >> kill
> >>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
> >>> >> >> most
> >>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
> >>> >> >> myself who
> >>> >> >> are
> >>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities
> >>> >> >> right
> >>> >> >> I
> >>> >> >> would say.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both
> >>> >> > have
> >>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
> >>> >> > figuratively
> >>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
> >>> >> > you.
> >>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> >>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Jim McNaa
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
> >>> >> That is
> >>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
> >>> >> doubt
> >>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
> >>> >> urge
> >>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
> >>> >> admire
> >>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
> >>> >> me how
> >>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
> >>> >> Beethoven, I
> >>> >> know my true worth!
> >>> >
> >>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
> >>> >second thought, pleass do.
> >>> >
> >>> >Jim McNaa
> >>>
> >>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
> >>> human race has expired?
> >>
> >>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
> >>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
> >>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
> >>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
> >>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
> >>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
> >>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
> >>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
> >>another. Have you set a date yet?
> >
> > Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>
> Jim McNaa is own of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
> on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
> adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
> to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him. I have never been that
> short with him and so he and I will go round and round for all eternity,
> just like you and Curtiss do. I think it is part of Usenet to get stuck with
> characters like these and I have gotten used to it. The only question is,
> who has more time to waste, me or Jim?

YOU. How's that for a one-liner ... one-worder, even???

Jim McNaa

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



 
Date: 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >> >>
> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >> >> interesting
> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
> >> >> are
> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
> >> >> I
> >> >> would say.
> >> >
> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >> >
> >> > Jim McNaa
> >>
> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
> >> know my true worth!
> >
> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
> >second thought, pleass do.
> >
> >Jim McNaa
>
> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
> human race has expired?

Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
another. Have you set a date yet?

Jim McNaa

> >> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
> >> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> aka
> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
> >> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
> >> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



  
Date: 11 Jun 2006 18:49:35
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>> >> >> interesting
>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> would say.
>> >> >
>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Jim McNaa
>> >>
>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
>> >> know my true worth!
>> >
>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>> >second thought, pleass do.
>> >
>> >Jim McNaa
>>
>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>> human race has expired?
>
>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>another. Have you set a date yet?

Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.

>Jim McNaa
>
>> >> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
>> >> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >> aka
>> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
>> >> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
>> >> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


   
Date: 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no
>>> >> >> > troll
>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
>>> >> >> > reduce
>>> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>>> >> >> interesting
>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you
>>> >> >> kill
>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
>>> >> >> most
>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
>>> >> >> myself who
>>> >> >> are
>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities
>>> >> >> right
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> would say.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both
>>> >> > have
>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
>>> >> > figuratively
>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
>>> >> > you.
>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jim McNaa
>>> >>
>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
>>> >> That is
>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
>>> >> doubt
>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
>>> >> urge
>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
>>> >> admire
>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
>>> >> me how
>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
>>> >> Beethoven, I
>>> >> know my true worth!
>>> >
>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>>> >second thought, pleass do.
>>> >
>>> >Jim McNaa
>>>
>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>>> human race has expired?
>>
>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>>another. Have you set a date yet?
>
> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.

Jim McNaa is own of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him. I have never been that
short with him and so he and I will go round and round for all eternity,
just like you and Curtiss do. I think it is part of Usenet to get stuck with
characters like these and I have gotten used to it. The only question is,
who has more time to waste, me or Jim?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




    
Date: 12 Jun 2006 15:57:22
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net >
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
>> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no
>>>> >> >> > troll
>>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
>>>> >> >> > reduce
>>>> >> >> > the
>>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>>>> >> >> interesting
>>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you
>>>> >> >> kill
>>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
>>>> >> >> most
>>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
>>>> >> >> myself who
>>>> >> >> are
>>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities
>>>> >> >> right
>>>> >> >> I
>>>> >> >> would say.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both
>>>> >> > have
>>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
>>>> >> > figuratively
>>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
>>>> >> > you.
>>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Jim McNaa
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
>>>> >> That is
>>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
>>>> >> doubt
>>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
>>>> >> urge
>>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
>>>> >> admire
>>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
>>>> >> me how
>>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
>>>> >> Beethoven, I
>>>> >> know my true worth!
>>>> >
>>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>>>> >second thought, pleass do.
>>>> >
>>>> >Jim McNaa
>>>>
>>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>>>> human race has expired?
>>>
>>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>>>another. Have you set a date yet?
>>
>> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>
>Jim McNaa is own of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
>on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
>adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
>to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.

It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike. Since you are a
much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to beat me at
this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and the Oral
History folks drooling over their laptops already....

I have never been that
>short with him and so he and I will go round and round for all eternity,
>just like you and Curtiss do. I think it is part of Usenet to get stuck with
>characters like these and I have gotten used to it. The only question is,
>who has more time to waste, me or Jim?
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


     
Date: 13 Jun 2006 10:12:56
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:4a3r82hm3vcil8ofrj8jk075vc77pvsvif@4ax.com...

[RBM newsgroup deleted]

> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
>>> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>>>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow,
>>>>> >> >> > no
>>>>> >> >> > troll
>>>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
>>>>> >> >> > reduce
>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>>>>> >> >> interesting
>>>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If
>>>>> >> >> you
>>>>> >> >> kill
>>>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
>>>>> >> >> most
>>>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
>>>>> >> >> myself who
>>>>> >> >> are
>>>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your
>>>>> >> >> priorities
>>>>> >> >> right
>>>>> >> >> I
>>>>> >> >> would say.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you
>>>>> >> > both
>>>>> >> > have
>>>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
>>>>> >> > figuratively
>>>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
>>>>> >> > you.
>>>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas
>>>>> >> > you
>>>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Jim McNaa
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
>>>>> >> That is
>>>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
>>>>> >> doubt
>>>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
>>>>> >> urge
>>>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
>>>>> >> admire
>>>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
>>>>> >> me how
>>>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
>>>>> >> Beethoven, I
>>>>> >> know my true worth!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>>>>> >second thought, pleass do.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Jim McNaa
>>>>>
>>>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>>>>> human race has expired?
>>>>
>>>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>>>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>>>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>>>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>>>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>>>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>>>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>>>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>>>>another. Have you set a date yet?
>>>
>>> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>>
>>Jim McNaa is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
>>on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
>>adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
>>to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
>
> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike. Since you are a
> much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to beat me at
> this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and the Oral
> History folks drooling over their laptops already....

You and I are on the same page here Mike. I have often thought that whoever
can say the least with the most meaning wins the game of Usenet. However, I
occasionally like to get a bit longwinded myself, but only for my own
amusement.

I have noted how Curtiss goes on and on with you and you have so little to
ever say to him. Very strange to say the least!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota






      
Date: 13 Jun 2006 16:19:37
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:12:56 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net >
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:4a3r82hm3vcil8ofrj8jk075vc77pvsvif@4ax.com...
>
>[RBM newsgroup deleted]
>
>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
>>>> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow,
>>>>>> >> >> > no
>>>>>> >> >> > troll
>>>>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
>>>>>> >> >> > reduce
>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>>>>>> >> >> interesting
>>>>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If
>>>>>> >> >> you
>>>>>> >> >> kill
>>>>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
>>>>>> >> >> most
>>>>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
>>>>>> >> >> myself who
>>>>>> >> >> are
>>>>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your
>>>>>> >> >> priorities
>>>>>> >> >> right
>>>>>> >> >> I
>>>>>> >> >> would say.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you
>>>>>> >> > both
>>>>>> >> > have
>>>>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
>>>>>> >> > figuratively
>>>>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
>>>>>> >> > you.
>>>>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas
>>>>>> >> > you
>>>>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Jim McNaa
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
>>>>>> >> That is
>>>>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
>>>>>> >> doubt
>>>>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
>>>>>> >> urge
>>>>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
>>>>>> >> admire
>>>>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
>>>>>> >> me how
>>>>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
>>>>>> >> Beethoven, I
>>>>>> >> know my true worth!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>>>>>> >second thought, pleass do.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Jim McNaa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
>>>>>> human race has expired?
>>>>>
>>>>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
>>>>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
>>>>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
>>>>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
>>>>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
>>>>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
>>>>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
>>>>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
>>>>>another. Have you set a date yet?
>>>>
>>>> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>>>
>>>Jim McNaa is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
>>>on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
>>>adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
>>>to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
>>
>> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
>> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
>> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
>> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
>> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
>> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike. Since you are a
>> much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to beat me at
>> this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and the Oral
>> History folks drooling over their laptops already....
>
>You and I are on the same page here Mike. I have often thought that whoever
>can say the least with the most meaning wins the game of Usenet. However, I
>occasionally like to get a bit longwinded myself, but only for my own
>amusement.
>
>I have noted how Curtiss goes on and on with you and you have so little to
>ever say to him. Very strange to say the least!

Yeah. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Not much of a challenge....

>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


       
Date: 13 Jun 2006 15:52:55
From: Chris Foster
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
Mike Vandeman <mjvande@pacbell.net > wrote in
news:dbpt82130lde3993vv1jluhe5o0a4h5rm6@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:12:56 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>news:4a3r82hm3vcil8ofrj8jk075vc77pvsvif@4ax.com...
>>
>>[RBM newsgroup deleted]
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
>>>>> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and,
>>>>>>> >> >> > whaddayaknow, no
>>>>>>> >> >> > troll
>>>>>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file
>>>>>>> >> >> > doesn't reduce
>>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say
>>>>>>> >> >> the most interesting
>>>>>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of
>>>>>>> >> >> themselves. If you
>>>>>>> >> >> kill
>>>>>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups
>>>>>>> >> >> worthwhile. But most
>>>>>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters
>>>>>>> >> >> like myself who
>>>>>>> >> >> are
>>>>>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your
>>>>>>> >> >> priorities
>>>>>>> >> >> right
>>>>>>> >> >> I
>>>>>>> >> >> would say.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that
>>>>>>> >> > you both
>>>>>>> >> > have
>>>>>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
>>>>>>> >> > figuratively
>>>>>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged
>>>>>>> >> > against you.
>>>>>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis,
>>>>>>> >> > whereas you
>>>>>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Jim McNaa
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from
>>>>>>> >> embarrassment. That is
>>>>>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They
>>>>>>> >> also no doubt
>>>>>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due
>>>>>>> >> adulation. I urge
>>>>>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how
>>>>>>> >> much you admire
>>>>>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want
>>>>>>> >> to tell me how
>>>>>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness.
>>>>>>> >> Like Beethoven, I
>>>>>>> >> know my true worth!
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath.
>>>>>>> >On second thought, pleass do.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Jim McNaa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership
>>>>>>> in the human race has expired?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of
>>>>>>Dolan's statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he
>>>>>>had his tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is
>>>>>>most certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that
>>>>>>my membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had
>>>>>>gone right over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not
>>>>>>logically follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual
>>>>>>admiration society consisting of ONLY two members. You two are
>>>>>>just perfect for one another. Have you set a date yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
>>>>
>>>>Jim McNaa is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created.
>>>>Trust me on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the
>>>>most longwinded adversary you have ever met in your life. Even
>>>>Curtiss can't hold a candle to him. However, your one-liners are
>>>>perfect for him.
>>>
>>> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
>>> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
>>> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate!
>>> I have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left
>>> on a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously,
>>> none of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike. Since you
>>> are a much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to
>>> beat me at this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and
>>> the Oral History folks drooling over their laptops already....
>>
>>You and I are on the same page here Mike. I have often thought that
>>whoever can say the least with the most meaning wins the game of
>>Usenet. However, I occasionally like to get a bit longwinded myself,
>>but only for my own amusement.
>>
>>I have noted how Curtiss goes on and on with you and you have so
>>little to ever say to him. Very strange to say the least!
>
> Yeah. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Not much of a challenge....

Did you say something??


>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>aka
>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>
>>
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
>


--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



 
Date: 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
> >> > the
> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >>
> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >> interesting
> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
> >> are
> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
> >> I
> >> would say.
> >
> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >
> > Jim McNaa
>
> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
> know my true worth!

Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
second thought, pleass do.

Jim McNaa

> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.



  
Date: 10 Jun 2006 19:26:09
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>> >> > the
>> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>> >>
>> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>> >> interesting
>> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
>> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
>> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
>> >> are
>> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
>> >> I
>> >> would say.
>> >
>> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
>> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
>> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
>> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>> >
>> > Jim McNaa
>>
>> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
>> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
>> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
>> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
>> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
>> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
>> know my true worth!
>
>Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
>second thought, pleass do.
>
>Jim McNaa

The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
human race has expired?

>> "Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
>> tombstone in Ohio graveyard
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>
>>
>> >> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
>> >> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
>> >> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 07:09:24
From: JimmyMac
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >
> >
> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce the
> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>
> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most interesting
> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who are
> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right I
> would say.

... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!

Jim McNaa

> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  
Date: 17 Jun 2006 14:26:02
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2006 22:06:56 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:9cpo829r4upfvr6nbcui3kdhc9c19sqc5u@4ax.com...
> >> >> On 11 Jun 2006 05:59:25 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> >>>> On 10 Jun 2006 08:08:44 -0700, jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >>>> >> "JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>> >> news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >>>> >> >> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>> >> >> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
> >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no
> >> >>>> >> >> > troll
> >> >>>> >> >> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't
> >> >>>> >> >> > reduce
> >> >>>> >> >> > the
> >> >>>> >> >> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
> >> >>>> >> >> interesting
> >> >>>> >> >> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you
> >> >>>> >> >> kill
> >> >>>> >> >> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But
> >> >>>> >> >> most
> >> >>>> >> >> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like
> >> >>>> >> >> myself who
> >> >>>> >> >> are
> >> >>>> >> >> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities
> >> >>>> >> >> right
> >> >>>> >> >> I
> >> >>>> >> >> would say.
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both
> >> >>>> >> > have
> >> >>>> >> > in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are
> >> >>>> >> > figuratively
> >> >>>> >> > deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against
> >> >>>> >> > you.
> >> >>>> >> > Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> >> >>>> >> > think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > Jim McNaa
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment.
> >> >>>> >> That is
> >> >>>> >> why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no
> >> >>>> >> doubt
> >> >>>> >> think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I
> >> >>>> >> urge
> >> >>>> >> others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you
> >> >>>> >> admire
> >> >>>> >> the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell
> >> >>>> >> me how
> >> >>>> >> Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like
> >> >>>> >> Beethoven, I
> >> >>>> >> know my true worth!
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >Admiration, adulation, praise ????? Don't hold your breath. On
> >> >>>> >second thought, pleass do.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >Jim McNaa
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The irony just went right over your head. Maybe your membership in the
> >> >>>> human race has expired?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Even in the absence of an emoticon, the ironny (incongruity) of Dolan's
> >> >>>statements did not escape me attention. I presume that he had his
> >> >>>tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. If not, then he is most
> >> >>>certainly delusional. What is ironic is your contention that my
> >> >>>membership in the human race expired. Even if the irony had gone right
> >> >>>over my head, and it did not, your conlcusion does not logically
> >> >>>follow. It is no wonder that you two are a mutual admiration society
> >> >>>consisting of ONLY two members. You two are just perfect for one
> >> >>>another. Have you set a date yet?
> >> >>
> >> >> Obviously your membership in the human race has expired.
> >> >
> >> >Jim McNaa is own of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust me
> >> >on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most longwinded
> >> >adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a candle
> >> >to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.
> >>
> >> It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
> >> them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
> >> long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
> >> have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
> >> a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
> >> of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.
> >
> >... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
> >describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
> >has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
> >Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
> >prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
> >(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
> >his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
> >of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
> >audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.
>
> At least Ed is entertaining. You guys' posts are WORTHLESS. No
> redeeming value whatsoever.
>
> Beyond
> >the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
> >differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
> >Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.
>
> Have your mommy look up "homophobia" in the dictionary.

There's no need to look up the word. I know what it means, but beyond
the aspect of prejudice are two distinctly divergent meanings, that
comprise the definition ... one encompassing FEAR and the other
encompassing DISLIKE and if anything the latter might apply. As for
what it applies to, I suspect if I were to look that up, yours or
Dolan's picture would likely accompany the definition. I hope one of
you live in a same-sex riage state.

Jim McNaa

> >> Since you are a
> >> much more talented writer than I am, you should be able to beat me at
> >> this game many times over. I can see the Smithsonian and the Oral
> >> History folks drooling over their laptops already....
> >>
> >> I have never been that
> >> >short with him and so he and I will go round and round for all eternity,
> >> >just like you and Curtiss do. I think it is part of Usenet to get stuck with
> >> >characters like these and I have gotten used to it. The only question is,
> >> >who has more time to waste, me or Jim?
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> >aka
> >> >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >> >
> >> ===
> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> >>
> >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande



  
Date: 07 Jun 2006 12:59:45
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>> >
>> >
>> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>> > the
>> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>
>> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>> interesting
>> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
>> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
>> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
>> are
>> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
>> I
>> would say.
>
> ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
> in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
> deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
> Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
> think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>
> Jim McNaa

I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised. They also no doubt
think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
know my true worth!

"Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
tombstone in Ohio graveyard

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



>> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
>> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
>> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.




   
Date: 09 Jun 2006 15:53:22
From: Mike Vandeman
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:59:45 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net >
wrote:

>
>"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1149689364.681335.297610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net> wrote in message
>>> news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>>> > bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>>> > the
>>> > garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>
>>> Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most
>>> interesting
>>> things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
>>> file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
>>> importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who
>>> are
>>> to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right
>>> I
>>> would say.
>>
>> ... a near perfect analogy since deafness is a trait that you both have
>> in comon, except Beethoven was literally deaf and you are figuratively
>> deaf . You turn a deaf ear to the many complaints lodged against you.
>> Beethoven had an audience that appreciated his genuis, whereas you
>> think you are a genius who goes unapprecatied ... NOT!!!
>>
>> Jim McNaa
>
>I am convinced that others just want to save me from embarrassment. That is
>why they do not praise me as I deserve to be praised.

This is now my new favorite post. :) I have saved it for the
Smithsonian.

They also no doubt
>think it takes away from themselves to give me my due adulation. I urge
>others to just come right out and tell the whole world how much you admire
>the Great Ed Dolan. Shucks! I won't mind at all if you want to tell me how
>Great I am. I am past all embassement at my own Greatness. Like Beethoven, I
>know my true worth!
>
>"Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again." - Epitaph found on
>tombstone in Ohio graveyard
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
>>> The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
>>> obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
>>> deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.
>
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 12:14:46
From: David J. Braden
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
Grolch wrote:
> Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce the
> garbage if everybodies being baited.
>
>

Don't know which newsreader you are using (I could find out with mine,
properly set up, but don't care to). However, with Thunderbird, my
default reader, you can not only block the troll, but the entire ensuing
thread. I filter both for "From" and "Subject".

HTH,

Dave B


  
Date: 07 Jun 2006 13:06:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"David J. Braden" <braden@nowayjose.com > wrote in message
news:Wqzhg.91846$H71.90908@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...

[newsgroups restored]

> Grolch wrote:
>> Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>> bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce the
>> garbage if everybodies being baited.
>
> Don't know which newsreader you are using (I could find out with mine,
> properly set up, but don't care to). However, with Thunderbird, my default
> reader, you can not only block the troll, but the entire ensuing thread. I
> filter both for "From" and "Subject".

Why not just filter the entire newsgroup. That way you will never be
disturbed by anything. Better yet, try to only talk to yourself. That is
what I did for most of my life and it really works - not a single idiot ever
to bother me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




   
Date: 09 Jun 2006 02:39:46
From: cc
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "David J. Braden" <braden@nowayjose.com> wrote in message
> news:Wqzhg.91846$H71.90908@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>
> [newsgroups restored]
>
>
>>Grolch wrote:
>>
>>>Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>>>bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce the
>>>garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>
>>Don't know which newsreader you are using (I could find out with mine,
>>properly set up, but don't care to). However, with Thunderbird, my default
>>reader, you can not only block the troll, but the entire ensuing thread. I
>>filter both for "From" and "Subject".
>
>
> Why not just filter the entire newsgroup. That way you will never be
> disturbed by anything. Better yet, try to only talk to yourself. That is
> what I did for most of my life and it really works - not a single idiot ever
> to bother me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>

Why don't you try it again. Permanently.


    
Date: 09 Jun 2006 08:43:10
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"cc" <cc@nospam.edu > wrote in message news:e6bfl4$efq$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "David J. Braden" <braden@nowayjose.com> wrote in message
>> news:Wqzhg.91846$H71.90908@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>> [newsgroups restored]
>>
>>
>>>Grolch wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>>>>bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>>>>the garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>
>>>Don't know which newsreader you are using (I could find out with mine,
>>>properly set up, but don't care to). However, with Thunderbird, my
>>>default reader, you can not only block the troll, but the entire ensuing
>>>thread. I filter both for "From" and "Subject".
>>
>>
>> Why not just filter the entire newsgroup. That way you will never be
>> disturbed by anything. Better yet, try to only talk to yourself. That is
>> what I did for most of my life and it really works - not a single idiot
>> ever to bother me.
>
> Why don't you try it again. Permanently.

Alas, my many fans will not permit me to retire. They insist on hearing from
me on a daily basis. Do not envy those like me who are Great. It is more
often than not a burden. Oh, to be a humble nobody like you cc. Yea, it is a
fate greatly to be desired. Then I could truly rest from my labors.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




  
Date: 07 Jun 2006 09:06:48
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
David J. Braden wrote:
> Grolch wrote:
>
>> Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>> bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>> the garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>
>
> Don't know which newsreader you are using (I could find out with mine,
> properly set up, but don't care to). However, with Thunderbird, my
> default reader, you can not only block the troll, but the entire ensuing
> thread. I filter both for "From" and "Subject".
>
> HTH,
>
> Dave B

And for those that slip through, there is the "ignore thread" under the
messge tab.

Ken
--
New cycling jersey: $49
new cycling shorts: $39
Not being a slave to the petrol pump: priceless.

contact me here: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/contact.html


   
Date: 07 Jun 2006 13:15:32
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:Z7SdnSYyaYz0UhvZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@giganews.com...

[newsgroups restored]

> David J. Braden wrote:
>> Grolch wrote:
>>
>>> Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
>>> bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce
>>> the garbage if everybodies being baited.
>>>
>>
>> Don't know which newsreader you are using (I could find out with mine,
>> properly set up, but don't care to). However, with Thunderbird, my
>> default reader, you can not only block the troll, but the entire ensuing
>> thread. I filter both for "From" and "Subject".
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Dave B
>
> And for those that slip through, there is the "ignore thread" under the
> messge tab.
>
> Ken
[...]

> New cycling jersey: $49
> new cycling shorts: $39

The main character you want to filter is this Ken guy so you do not ever
have to see his freaking ads for his bicycle clothing again. After all,
jerseys for $49. and shorts for $39. are no bargain. I can get such apparel
for less than half that from Bike Nashbar and Performance.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 07 Jun 2006 01:46:52
From:
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.
Kill them Trolls while their still under the bridge.



 
Date: 05 Jun 2006 02:36:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

"Grolch" <hjwilkeremovenospam@telus.net > wrote in message
news:2BNgg.11898$I61.11458@clgrps13...
>
>
> Just add them to your blocked senders list and, whaddayaknow, no troll
> bait...BUT, adding the flaming trolls to the kill file doesn't reduce the
> garbage if everybodies being baited.

Those of us who are falsely accused of being trolls say the most interesting
things which others MUST respond to in spite of themselves. If you kill
file, you miss everything that makes newsgroups worthwhile. But most
importantly, you miss the original posting of characters like myself who are
to Usenet what Beethoven was to music. Time to get your priorities right I
would say.

The kind of characters you want to kill file are those who resort to
obscenities and sexual innuendo. They are truly worthless types who only
deserve a good swift kick in their dumb asses.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota