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Date: 19 Jun 2007 14:34:56
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Death to Liberals!
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Ed Dolan the Great is death on liberals. Why? Because they will not defend
this nation against its enemies.
You poor dumb slobs seem to think that individuals count for something,.
They don't and they never have. We humans are group animals. We are only
what our groups determine us to be. That is why only group identification
matters. A lone individual counts for nothing. Soc 101.
So what group do you belong to? Americans? Yea, and you had better believe
that in the end that is all that counts.
In the contest of groups against groups, you had better get with it or you
are one dead son of a bitch. Everyone hates individuals who do not get with
the group when it is a matter of life and death. The group will turn on such
individuals and kill them without remorse, regarding them as traitors and
cowards. Traitors and cowards - just the terms for liberals who do not have
the brains to know anything about group identification.
We are now engaged in a war with other groups (Islamics) who would like to
see each and everyone of us dead. What does Ed Dolan care about? He only
cares about America - the nation, not the g.d. Constitution or anything else
you can dredge up, but only the nation. You can die for the nation if need
be, but it is far more important that you kill for the nation. Let the other
poor bastard die for his nation.
I truly do hate liberals with a passion because they are unable to make this
very elementary group identification. I spent 4 years in the Navy and all
that counted was the uniform. You were either Navy or you were nowhere. It
is like that with the nation at large, You are either an American or you are
nowhere.
I say death to fucking liberals. They are not fit to be Americans. I
consider them to be cowards and traitors. They will not defend this nation
against its enemies. I do not even consider them to be human beings. They
are human scum better off dead.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 08:57:43
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 23, 11:22 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182566637.562779.146080@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > what this turkey does is say something unberabley stupid then wait for
> > your response so he can laugh at you-
> > i am the great why"?
> > because
> > because WHAT?
> > one man counts for nothing?
> > WHAT?
> > conservative ideology is that ONE MAN COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING.
> > yawl wasting your electrons
> > try alt.liberalism
>
> Datakoll has obviously never taken a course in sociology or anthropology. He
> is typical of the average American who is ignorant of all the social
> sciences. Sociology 101. Cultural Anthropology 101.
>
> Would the history of Europe been any different if Napoleon had never lived?
> Yea or nay? If you believe in the individual, you will answer one way; if
> you believe in the abstract forces of history, you will answer another way.
> Even the great writer Tolstoy was confused by this conundrum. Philosophy of
> History 101.
>
> Here is another interesting question for Datakoll to consider. Would the
> course of science have been any different if the great inventor Edison had
> never lived? How about Einstein? Yea or nay? Philosophy of Science 101.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Actually, Gene's posts are very refreshing, well informed, amusing.
His responses are infused with all kinds of metanarratives, that
indicate sociological and anthropological knowledge. They require some
reading skills. He is certainly "Saint Datakoll, the Great Master of
the Metaphor"
Andres
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Date: 25 Jun 2007 11:22:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1182700663.520785.80720@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 23, 11:22 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182566637.562779.146080@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > what this turkey does is say something unberabley stupid then wait for
>> > your response so he can laugh at you-
>> > i am the great why"?
>> > because
>> > because WHAT?
>> > one man counts for nothing?
>> > WHAT?
>> > conservative ideology is that ONE MAN COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING.
>> > yawl wasting your electrons
>> > try alt.liberalism
>>
>> Datakoll has obviously never taken a course in sociology or anthropology.
>> He
>> is typical of the average American who is ignorant of all the social
>> sciences. Sociology 101. Cultural Anthropology 101.
>>
>> Would the history of Europe been any different if Napoleon had never
>> lived?
>> Yea or nay? If you believe in the individual, you will answer one way; if
>> you believe in the abstract forces of history, you will answer another
>> way.
>> Even the great writer Tolstoy was confused by this conundrum. Philosophy
>> of
>> History 101.
>>
>> Here is another interesting question for Datakoll to consider. Would the
>> course of science have been any different if the great inventor Edison
>> had
>> never lived? How about Einstein? Yea or nay? Philosophy of Science 101.
>
> Actually, Gene's posts are very refreshing, well informed, amusing.
> His responses are infused with all kinds of metanarratives, that
> indicate sociological and anthropological knowledge. They require some
> reading skills. He is certainly "Saint Datakoll, the Great Master of
> the Metaphor"
Andres is playing the role of the humorist here which only Ed Dolan the
Great has the wit to appreciate. However, one should bear in mind that fools
are only amusing for short periods of time. They soon wear out whatever
welcome they initially had.
In the end, it is all about gravitas. Either get serious or get lost! Fools
are only fools after all.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 25 Jun 2007 11:13:34
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1182700663.520785.80720@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 23, 11:22 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "datakoll" <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182566637.562779.146080@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > what this turkey does is say something unberabley stupid then wait for
>> > your response so he can laugh at you-
>> > i am the great why"?
>> > because
>> > because WHAT?
>> > one man counts for nothing?
>> > WHAT?
>> > conservative ideology is that ONE MAN COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING.
>> > yawl wasting your electrons
>> > try alt.liberalism
>>
>> Datakoll has obviously never taken a course in sociology or anthropology.
>> He
>> is typical of the average American who is ignorant of all the social
>> sciences. Sociology 101. Cultural Anthropology 101.
>>
>> Would the history of Europe been any different if Napoleon had never
>> lived?
>> Yea or nay? If you believe in the individual, you will answer one way; if
>> you believe in the abstract forces of history, you will answer another
>> way.
>> Even the great writer Tolstoy was confused by this conundrum. Philosophy
>> of
>> History 101.
>>
>> Here is another interesting question for Datakoll to consider. Would the
>> course of science have been any different if the great inventor Edison
>> had
>> never lived? How about Einstein? Yea or nay? Philosophy of Science 101.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
> Actually, Gene's posts are very refreshing, well informed, amusing.
> His responses are infused with all kinds of metanarratives, that
> indicate sociological and anthropological knowledge. They require some
> reading skills. He is certainly "Saint Datakoll, the Great Master of
> the Metaphor"
>
> Andres
>
>
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 08:27:41
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 24, 10:22 am, Ted Bennett wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > The above paragraph is pure crap and nothing but Bush hatred. It is what is
> > going to insure the defeat of the Dems in the next election because the
> > American people are not yet ready to commit suicide, even if the liberal
> > Dems are.
>
> I think you meant to say "ensure" rather than "insure", Ed.
Maybe Mr. Ed had a bad experience <http://ensure.com/ >?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 23 Jun 2007 02:43:57
From: datakoll
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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what this turkey does is say something unberabley stupid then wait for
your response so he can laugh at you-
i am the great why"?
because
because WHAT?
one man counts for nothing?
WHAT?
conservative ideology is that ONE MAN COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING.
yawl wasting your electrons
try alt.liberalism
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 00:22:16
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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"datakoll" <datakoll@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1182566637.562779.146080@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> what this turkey does is say something unberabley stupid then wait for
> your response so he can laugh at you-
> i am the great why"?
> because
> because WHAT?
> one man counts for nothing?
> WHAT?
> conservative ideology is that ONE MAN COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING.
> yawl wasting your electrons
> try alt.liberalism
Datakoll has obviously never taken a course in sociology or anthropology. He
is typical of the average American who is ignorant of all the social
sciences. Sociology 101. Cultural Anthropology 101.
Would the history of Europe been any different if Napoleon had never lived?
Yea or nay? If you believe in the individual, you will answer one way; if
you believe in the abstract forces of history, you will answer another way.
Even the great writer Tolstoy was confused by this conundrum. Philosophy of
History 101.
Here is another interesting question for Datakoll to consider. Would the
course of science have been any different if the great inventor Edison had
never lived? How about Einstein? Yea or nay? Philosophy of Science 101.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 19:34:54
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 22, 6:23 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> <andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182552649.067867.129940@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 22, 9:02 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> >> <andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1182359020.372342.30460@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Which liberals do you mean?
>
> >> > The economic liberals or the social liberals?
>
> >> I mean the political liberals like Tom Sherman of ARBR. He is one of the
> >> worst ideologues ever to disgrace these cycling newsgroups. I believe he
> >> may
> >> well have been a Communist of the Stalinist stripe all during the Cold
> >> War.
> >> He will not answer this very basic question: Are you now or were you ever
> >> a
> >> member of the Communist Party?
>
> > Both economic and social liberals are political.
>
> I think it is possible to be a social liberal in some respects without being
> a political liberal. I give you the present governor of California as an
> example. Even President Bush went for the medical prescription drug benefit
> for older folks. I myself would not object to a universal health care
> program for this nation even though I am politically conservative in most
> respects.
>
> The liberal Dems are very weak on defending this nation against its enemies.
> This is the ultimate test of one's political coloration as far as I am
> concerned. I consider liberal Dems to be far left of center and I color them
> pink, if not red. However, maybe their true color is simply yellow!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
The association between liberal democrats and communism, Marxism, etc
totally inaccurate and I am not sure if this is strategic red baiting
or simple ignorance. Fact is liberal ideas originate in Europe and
date from the 16th and 17th centuries and they are the basis for
modern US government and other western European nations. Liberalism is
grounded in the idea of a social contract. Marxism and Communism which
dates from the 19th century is a reaction against European liberalism.
Marx concluded that European liberalism had not worked. and he argued
that the working class was going to rise up and take over the means of
production.
Ultimately, American liberalism stands in direct opposition to
communism, Marxisms, etc. The association is usually used as a form of
red baiting as I said before. Uninformed people usually fall for that
type of discourse, but I think that most readers of this newsgroup may
be a little more sophisticated.
So whether or not, liberals are pussies has nothing to do with the
them being reds. An interesting fact though is that during the Clinton
administration there was peace in the US and we didn't fear terrorist
attacks. Since Bush, our very macho dude, we have been in constant
fear of terrorists. I personally, didn't like Clinton, nor I like
Bush. However, historically, the Clinton admin created much more
safety in the US than what we have right now. This is true both in
terms of economics and international relationships. Back then, aside
from overwhelming poverty in some parts of the country, the only thing
we had to worry about was Paris Hilton and Clinton's sex adventures.
Now, we have much worse poverty all over the country. We don't have a
national guard to protect us from internal crises, we are at war in
Afghanistan, Iraq and almost at war with iran, and we still have to
worry about Paris Hilton.
Ultimately, poverty has gotten worse and the economy is worse. I don't
know if Clinton was more of a pussy, but he certainly got more. Story
is that when Napoleon didn't get any, he would go to war. i don't know
if Bush gets any bush, even though we know he gets dick. But, even
though he goes to war, he doesn't win. I personally considered giving
up bush because of the association. However, I would be much less
incline towards dick.
Andres
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 00:05:15
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1182566094.438425.35200@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 6:23 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> <andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182552649.067867.129940@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 22, 9:02 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> >> <andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1182359020.372342.30460@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > Which liberals do you mean?
>>
>> >> > The economic liberals or the social liberals?
>>
>> >> I mean the political liberals like Tom Sherman of ARBR. He is one of
>> >> the
>> >> worst ideologues ever to disgrace these cycling newsgroups. I believe
>> >> he
>> >> may
>> >> well have been a Communist of the Stalinist stripe all during the Cold
>> >> War.
>> >> He will not answer this very basic question: Are you now or were you
>> >> ever
>> >> a
>> >> member of the Communist Party?
>>
>> > Both economic and social liberals are political.
>>
>> I think it is possible to be a social liberal in some respects without
>> being
>> a political liberal. I give you the present governor of California as an
>> example. Even President Bush went for the medical prescription drug
>> benefit
>> for older folks. I myself would not object to a universal health care
>> program for this nation even though I am politically conservative in most
>> respects.
>>
>> The liberal Dems are very weak on defending this nation against its
>> enemies.
>> This is the ultimate test of one's political coloration as far as I am
>> concerned. I consider liberal Dems to be far left of center and I color
>> them
>> pink, if not red. However, maybe their true color is simply yellow!
>
> The association between liberal democrats and communism, Marxism, etc
> totally inaccurate and I am not sure if this is strategic red baiting
> or simple ignorance. Fact is liberal ideas originate in Europe and
> date from the 16th and 17th centuries and they are the basis for
> modern US government and other western European nations. Liberalism is
> grounded in the idea of a social contract. Marxism and Communism which
> dates from the 19th century is a reaction against European liberalism.
> Marx concluded that European liberalism had not worked. and he argued
> that the working class was going to rise up and take over the means of
> production.
All of the above is true. However, it has become irrelevant to present day
circumstances. Liberals, at least since my time here on this earth, have
been left-leaning throughout the Cold War and have totally disgraced
themselves as a consequence of it.
The 20th century was all about going to the left as far as possible. I
consider the European fascisms to be essentially leftists (National
Socialism = Nazism). American and Western European liberals were notoriously
sympathetic to the Soviet Union. Their anti-capitalism has seriously
deranged them. I give you Mr. Tom Sherman of ARBR as a prime example of this
species of traitor to Western Civilization.
> Ultimately, American liberalism stands in direct opposition to
> communism, Marxisms, etc. The association is usually used as a form of
> red baiting as I said before. Uninformed people usually fall for that
> type of discourse, but I think that most readers of this newsgroup may
> be a little more sophisticated.
American liberals were anything but a direct opposition to communism. It was
Republican conservatives which saved America and the West from leftist
ideology by standing firm against the gangster regimes of the left. It will
also be Republican conservatives which save America and the West from the
regimes of the Islamic gangsters. American liberals want to accommodate
Islamic gangster regimes just as they formerly wanted to accommodate
communist gangster regimes.
> So whether or not, liberals are pussies has nothing to do with the
> them being reds. An interesting fact though is that during the Clinton
> administration there was peace in the US and we didn't fear terrorist
> attacks.
Andres is crazy as a bed bug! We were under attack constantly during the
Clinton years but were too stupid to recognize it.
Since Bush, our very macho dude, we have been in constant
> fear of terrorists. I personally, didn't like Clinton, nor I like
> Bush. However, historically, the Clinton admin created much more
> safety in the US than what we have right now. This is true both in
> terms of economics and international relationships. Back then, aside
> from overwhelming poverty in some parts of the country, the only thing
> we had to worry about was Paris Hilton and Clinton's sex adventures.
> Now, we have much worse poverty all over the country. We don't have a
> national guard to protect us from internal crises, we are at war in
> Afghanistan, Iraq and almost at war with iran, and we still have to
> worry about Paris Hilton.
A few more years of Clinton and we would have had Islamic atom bombs going
off all over the US. There are none so stupid who do not even know when they
are being attacked. Clinton should have put this nation on a war footing
from the very first attack. It took 9/11 to wake us up. The liberal Dems
were not even much in favor of going into Afghanistan let alone Iraq. Some
of them are so god damn stupid that they still don't think we were attacked.
> Ultimately, poverty has gotten worse and the economy is worse. I don't
> know if Clinton was more of a pussy, but he certainly got more. Story
> is that when Napoleon didn't get any, he would go to war. i don't know
> if Bush gets any bush, even though we know he gets dick. But, even
> though he goes to war, he doesn't win. I personally considered giving
> up bush because of the association. However, I would be much less
> incline towards dick.
The above paragraph is pure crap and nothing but Bush hatred. It is what is
going to insure the defeat of the Dems in the next election because the
American people are not yet ready to commit suicide, even if the liberal
Dems are.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 24 Jun 2007 15:22:30
From: Ted Bennett
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote:
> The above paragraph is pure crap and nothing but Bush hatred. It is what is
> going to insure the defeat of the Dems in the next election because the
> American people are not yet ready to commit suicide, even if the liberal
> Dems are.
I think you meant to say "ensure" rather than "insure", Ed.
--
Ted Bennett
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Date: 25 Jun 2007 11:34:46
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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"Ted Bennett" <tedbennett@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:tedbennett-2BF49D.08222824062007@news.west.earthlink.net...
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> The above paragraph is pure crap and nothing but Bush hatred. It is what
>> is
>> going to insure the defeat of the Dems in the next election because the
>> American people are not yet ready to commit suicide, even if the liberal
>> Dems are.
>
> I think you meant to say "ensure" rather than "insure", Ed.
Well, I looked it up because I am an intellectual despite what others might
think on these freaking cycling newsgroups. Actually, either one would be
correct. It is just another one of the many idiosyncrasies of the English
language which only connoisseurs like Ted Bennett and I can appreciate.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 15:50:49
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 22, 9:02 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> <andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182359020.372342.30460@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Which liberals do you mean?
>
> > The economic liberals or the social liberals?
>
> I mean the political liberals like Tom Sherman of ARBR. He is one of the
> worst ideologues ever to disgrace these cycling newsgroups. I believe he may
> well have been a Communist of the Stalinist stripe all during the Cold War.
> He will not answer this very basic question: Are you now or were you ever a
> member of the Communist Party?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> PS. Ah, for the good old days of Senator Joesph McCarthy!
Both economic and social liberals are political.
Andres
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 19:23:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1182552649.067867.129940@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 9:02 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> <andresm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1182359020.372342.30460@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Which liberals do you mean?
>>
>> > The economic liberals or the social liberals?
>>
>> I mean the political liberals like Tom Sherman of ARBR. He is one of the
>> worst ideologues ever to disgrace these cycling newsgroups. I believe he
>> may
>> well have been a Communist of the Stalinist stripe all during the Cold
>> War.
>> He will not answer this very basic question: Are you now or were you ever
>> a
>> member of the Communist Party?
>
> Both economic and social liberals are political.
I think it is possible to be a social liberal in some respects without being
a political liberal. I give you the present governor of California as an
example. Even President Bush went for the medical prescription drug benefit
for older folks. I myself would not object to a universal health care
program for this nation even though I am politically conservative in most
respects.
The liberal Dems are very weak on defending this nation against its enemies.
This is the ultimate test of one's political coloration as far as I am
concerned. I consider liberal Dems to be far left of center and I color them
pink, if not red. However, maybe their true color is simply yellow!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 15:12:35
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 20, 7:08 pm, "Bill Sornson" <a...@ask.me > wrote:
> Donald Gillies wrote:
> > Hey Ed Trollen,
>
> > why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??
> > Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that now you can
> > never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
>
> Will you similarly flame, say, Jobst (Brandt @ Stanford yada yada...) the
> next time he starts an off-topic, mean-spirited political thread?
>
> Just wondering...
Well, most likely he won't do that. Because he likely doesn't feel
about Jobst the way you do. OTOH, just because you will criticize
Jobst, why would you expect others to do it too. On another note, I
personally don't think that you can compare Jobst's posts and the post
from the above dude. I know that whatever Jobst posts he means. On the
other hand, I don't even know if Ed Dolan exists, if he is serious or
if he is just trolling. In terms of content I tend to agree with a lot
of what Jobst has to say, but that is subjective. Also, while you may
disagree considerably, the quality of Jobst posts and of this "Ed
Dolan" dude, do not compare. So, the comparison is does not fit.
Andres
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 10:41:28
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1182463955.984578.87510@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 7:08 pm, "Bill Sornson" <a...@ask.me> wrote:
>> Donald Gillies wrote:
>> > Hey Ed Trollen,
>>
>> > why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??
>> > Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that now you can
>> > never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
>>
>> Will you similarly flame, say, Jobst (Brandt @ Stanford yada yada...) the
>> next time he starts an off-topic, mean-spirited political thread?
>>
>> Just wondering...
>
> Well, most likely he won't do that. Because he likely doesn't feel
> about Jobst the way you do. OTOH, just because you will criticize
> Jobst, why would you expect others to do it too. On another note, I
> personally don't think that you can compare Jobst's posts and the post
> from the above dude. I know that whatever Jobst posts he means. On the
> other hand, I don't even know if Ed Dolan exists, if he is serious or
> if he is just trolling. In terms of content I tend to agree with a lot
> of what Jobst has to say, but that is subjective. Also, while you may
> disagree considerably, the quality of Jobst posts and of this "Ed
> Dolan" dude, do not compare. So, the comparison is does not fit.
It all has to do with whatever political bias you are saddled with. It is
well-known that cyclists who post to Usenet are almost without exception
liberal scofflaws. Bike shop owners seem to be especially cursed with
liberal bias. I think it is all due to too much tinkering with the minutiae
of bicycles. It makes them small in every way.
I am here to be bring some Great Thoughts to all these small-minded liberal
pip-squeaks. It is what I feel I owe to the lowly of the earth. Yea, it is
merely part of my Noblesse Oblige as a Great Personage and Lord of the
Manor. By the way, I am also a Great Saint too - if you are interested.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 16:12:33
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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andresmuro@aol.com wrote:
> On Jun 20, 7:08 pm, "Bill Sornson" <a...@ask.me> wrote:
>> Donald Gillies wrote:
>>> Hey Ed Trollen,
>>
>>> why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel
>>> good?? Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that
>>> now you can never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
>>
>> Will you similarly flame, say, Jobst (Brandt @ Stanford yada
>> yada...) the next time he starts an off-topic, mean-spirited
>> political thread?
>>
>> Just wondering...
>
> Well, most likely he won't do that. Because he likely doesn't feel
> about Jobst the way you do.
Has nothing to do with how anyone /feels/ about anyone. Has to do with
introducing blatant political hit pieces as NEW TOPICS on cycling
newsgroups. (Especially hypocritical when JB does it since he once flamed
someone for posting a RIDE REPORT in .misc instead of .rides. THE HORROR.)
HTH
***
> OTOH, just because you will criticize
> Jobst, why would you expect others to do it too. On another note, I
> personally don't think that you can compare Jobst's posts and the post
> from the above dude. I know that whatever Jobst posts he means. On the
> other hand, I don't even know if Ed Dolan exists, if he is serious or
> if he is just trolling. In terms of content I tend to agree with a lot
> of what Jobst has to say, but that is subjective. Also, while you may
> disagree considerably, the quality of Jobst posts and of this "Ed
> Dolan" dude, do not compare. So, the comparison is does not fit.
>
> Andres
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 03:55:31
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 20, 11:13 pm, Bill Sornson wrote:
> "DI" wrote:
> > "Bill Baka wrote in message
> >news:Y7lei.41234$5j1.34083@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>
> >> That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the mess
> >> of military record keeping. What made that day memorable was that
> >> the Army bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit in the
> >> heat until another bus could pick us up. It was only about a 45 mile
> >> trip from San Jose up to Oakland and some of us were joking that if
> >> our guns were that good we really didn't want to be in the Army.
> >> The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we all had to
> >> strip butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks, 3 or 4 guys
> >> got erections and were immediately shown to the door.
> >> That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
> >> The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's
> >> Restaurant". I don't know how you would look it up but there must be
> >> some records of proceedings at the induction center dating to back
> >> then. It's true, even if strange.
> >> Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no
> >> respect for authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
> >> Bill (I tried) Baka
>
> > Your last sentence makes a little sense, except they had guys called
> > "Drill Sergeants" that could solve that situation. I was draft age
> > during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and enlisted in the Air Force only
> > to flunk the physical, by Vietnam I had a family, if not I would have
> > been drafted even with the handicap. About the only requirements
> > for draft eligibility was a warm body and be able to walk.
>
> I personally know a guy who tells a story of getting in a brawl (he's got
> monstrous guns to this day) and hitting a cop. Bottom line choice he got
> was go to prison or enlist in the military. Next stop, Vietnam.
>
> Yet Bill says they rejected him for a few too many traffic tix! LOL
>
> What a maroon. (If only the police had records, the Army had records, his
> MOTHER had records, /then/ we'd all know he's not a bullshitter! LOL
> indeed...)
But did this guy have a police record for going too fast at age 3 on a
kiddie trike???
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 09:31:05
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Johnny Sunset wrote:
> On Jun 20, 11:13 pm, Bill Sornson wrote:
{SNIP}
>> I personally know a guy who tells a story of getting in a brawl
>> (he's got monstrous guns to this day) and hitting a cop. Bottom
>> line choice he got was go to prison or enlist in the military. Next
>> stop, Vietnam.
>>
>> Yet Bill {Baka}says they rejected him for a few too many traffic tix!
>> LOL
>>
>> What a maroon. (If only the police had records, the Army had
>> records, his MOTHER had records, /then/ we'd all know he's not a
>> bullshitter! LOL indeed...)
> But did this guy have a police record for going too fast at age 3 on a
> kiddie trike???
Highly doubt it. (I used to mountain bike with this guy, and for a big
bad-ass love-to-fight muldoon, he was VERY cautious on the trails.)
Only the Legendary William "Iron Bill" Baka could break 50 on a kid's
tricycle. (Check with the local cops; may still be on their books! LOL )
BS (and how)
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 18:36:31
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: A suggestion for Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman
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On Jun 20, 7:57 pm, Johnny Sunset <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:58 pm, Donald Gillies wrote:
>
> > Hey Ed Trollen,
>
> > why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??...
>
> The secret to Mr. Ed is to never take him seriously. Then he becomes
> amusing.
>
>
If you feel the need to feed Trollin Dolan, why don't you trim the
cross posts and keep it in ARBR? It's the civil thing to do, you know.
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 10:20:47
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: A suggestion for Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman
|
"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1182389791.930475.44190@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 7:57 pm, Johnny Sunset <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 20, 1:58 pm, Donald Gillies wrote:
>>
>> > Hey Ed Trollen,
>>
>> > why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel
>> > good??...
>>
>> The secret to Mr. Ed is to never take him seriously. Then he becomes
>> amusing.
>>
>>
>
> If you feel the need to feed Trollin Dolan, why don't you trim the
> cross posts and keep it in ARBR? It's the civil thing to do, you know.
Because if he does that he will hear from me in no uncertain terms. I know
who I want to read my messages and it is not up to others to decide
otherwise. Get you own fucking threads if you don't like mine.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 17:57:04
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
On Jun 20, 1:58 pm, Donald Gillies wrote:
> Hey Ed Trollen,
>
> why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??...
The secret to Mr. Ed is to never take him seriously. Then he becomes
amusing.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 10:16:58
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
"Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1182387424.637782.4660@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 20, 1:58 pm, Donald Gillies wrote:
>> Hey Ed Trollen,
>>
>> why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??...
>
> The secret to Mr. Ed is to never take him seriously. Then he becomes
> amusing.
Yea, we Conservatives are sane and sensible folks, unlike liberals like Mr.
Sherman. He thinks he matters in the grand scheme of things and I can tell
him absolutely that he does not matter in the slightest, ... nay, not in the
grand scheme of things and not even in the tiny scheme of things.
Here is some wisdom for all of us to ponder:
"Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again."
- Epitaph found on tombstone in Ohio graveyard
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 11:58:15
From: Donald Gillies
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
Hey Ed Trollen,
why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??
Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that now you can
never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 10:07:53
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
"Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca > wrote in message
news:f5btc7$emq$1@cascade.cs.ubc.ca...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS, NOR DOES HE EVEN POST ANY OF THE MESSAGE TO WHIC
HE IS RESPONDING.
> Hey Ed Trollen,
>
> why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??
> Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that now you can
> never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
Why do liberals think it is OK for them to persecute others, but not for
others to persecute them? Also, have you never heard that the best defense
is a good offense? All I am doing is taking play leafs out of the Book of
Liberalism.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 09:39:34
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Edward Dolan wrote:
> Why do liberals think it is OK for them to persecute others, but not
> for others to persecute them?
/Exactly/ like radical Islamists, if you've noticed. Have a 12-year-old boy
cut the head off a helpless, innocent, screaming hostage; or blow up
civilians on a bus or in a cafe -- no problem. But DRAW A CARTOON OF
MOHAMMED -- blasphemy! Outrage! THAT is not acceptable.
Bill "if I could draw a cartoon it would be of Jimmy Carter" S.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 18:08:17
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
Donald Gillies wrote:
> Hey Ed Trollen,
>
> why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??
> Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that now you can
> never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
Will you similarly flame, say, Jobst (Brandt @ Stanford yada yada...) the
next time he starts an off-topic, mean-spirited political thread?
Just wondering...
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 11:59:49
From: doofy
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
Donald Gillies wrote:
> Hey Ed Trollen,
>
> why do you have to bring other people down so that you can feel good??
> Did your mommy verbally abuse you so badly as a child that now you can
> never get even ?? What a waste of a person you are.
>
>
>
plonk.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 10:03:40
From: andresmuro@aol.com
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Which liberals do you mean?
The economic liberals or the social liberals?
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 10:02:43
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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<andresmuro@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1182359020.372342.30460@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Which liberals do you mean?
>
> The economic liberals or the social liberals?
I mean the political liberals like Tom Sherman of ARBR. He is one of the
worst ideologues ever to disgrace these cycling newsgroups. I believe he may
well have been a Communist of the Stalinist stripe all during the Cold War.
He will not answer this very basic question: Are you now or were you ever a
member of the Communist Party?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
PS. Ah, for the good old days of Senator Joesph McCarthy!
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 09:34:19
From: Ted
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Bill Baka said "I did volunteer
for the draft"
How do you "volunteer" for the draft? I thought they were mutually
exclusive.
Ted.
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 00:19:53
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Ted wrote:
> Bill Baka said "I did volunteer
> for the draft"
>
> How do you "volunteer" for the draft? I thought they were mutually
> exclusive.
>
> Ted.
>
It was an alternative to just waiting, with the fringe benefit of having
to do only a 2 year service period as opposed to the 3 years of a
regular draftee. The other upside was that you got more respect from you
fellow soldiers than an unwilling draftee. I still wanted to get into
the Air Force and play with planes and avionics, but I got turned down
by the Air Force every year and never got drafted. I did go down to the
Oakland induction center with a bus load of other candidates so I
thought my number was coming up after I passed. 6 months later I called
them, and they said "Don't call us, we'll call you.". ??????
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 20:05:52
From: DI
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:Jujei.15374$2v1.3759@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> Ted wrote:
>> Bill Baka said "I did volunteer
>> for the draft"
>>
>> How do you "volunteer" for the draft? I thought they were mutually
>> exclusive.
>>
>> Ted.
>>
> It was an alternative to just waiting, with the fringe benefit of having
> to do only a 2 year service period as opposed to the 3 years of a regular
> draftee. The other upside was that you got more respect from you fellow
> soldiers than an unwilling draftee. I still wanted to get into the Air
> Force and play with planes and avionics, but I got turned down by the Air
> Force every year and never got drafted. I did go down to the Oakland
> induction center with a bus load of other candidates so I thought my
> number was coming up after I passed. 6 months later I called them, and
> they said "Don't call us, we'll call you.". ??????
> Bill Baka
You're so full of crap.
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 02:12:08
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
DI wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Jujei.15374$2v1.3759@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>> Ted wrote:
>>> Bill Baka said "I did volunteer
>>> for the draft"
>>>
>>> How do you "volunteer" for the draft? I thought they were mutually
>>> exclusive.
>>>
>>> Ted.
>>>
>> It was an alternative to just waiting, with the fringe benefit of having
>> to do only a 2 year service period as opposed to the 3 years of a regular
>> draftee. The other upside was that you got more respect from you fellow
>> soldiers than an unwilling draftee. I still wanted to get into the Air
>> Force and play with planes and avionics, but I got turned down by the Air
>> Force every year and never got drafted. I did go down to the Oakland
>> induction center with a bus load of other candidates so I thought my
>> number was coming up after I passed. 6 months later I called them, and
>> they said "Don't call us, we'll call you.". ??????
>> Bill Baka
>
> You're so full of crap.
>
>
That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the mess of
military record keeping. What made that day memorable was that the Army
bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit in the heat until
another bus could pick us up. It was only about a 45 mile trip from San
Jose up to Oakland and some of us were joking that if our guns were that
good we really didn't want to be in the Army.
The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we all had to strip
butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks, 3 or 4 guys got
erections and were immediately shown to the door.
That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's Restaurant".
I don't know how you would look it up but there must be some records of
proceedings at the induction center dating to back then.
It's true, even if strange.
Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no respect
for authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
Bill (I tried) Baka
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Date: 22 Jun 2007 09:54:44
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:Y7lei.41234$5j1.34083@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
> DI wrote:
>> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Jujei.15374$2v1.3759@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Ted wrote:
>>>> Bill Baka said "I did volunteer
>>>> for the draft"
>>>>
>>>> How do you "volunteer" for the draft? I thought they were mutually
>>>> exclusive.
>>>>
>>>> Ted.
>>>>
>>> It was an alternative to just waiting, with the fringe benefit of having
>>> to do only a 2 year service period as opposed to the 3 years of a
>>> regular draftee. The other upside was that you got more respect from you
>>> fellow soldiers than an unwilling draftee. I still wanted to get into
>>> the Air Force and play with planes and avionics, but I got turned down
>>> by the Air Force every year and never got drafted. I did go down to the
>>> Oakland induction center with a bus load of other candidates so I
>>> thought my number was coming up after I passed. 6 months later I called
>>> them, and they said "Don't call us, we'll call you.". ??????
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> You're so full of crap.
> That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the mess of
> military record keeping. What made that day memorable was that the Army
> bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit in the heat until
> another bus could pick us up. It was only about a 45 mile trip from San
> Jose up to Oakland and some of us were joking that if our guns were that
> good we really didn't want to be in the Army.
> The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we all had to strip
> butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks, 3 or 4 guys got erections
> and were immediately shown to the door.
> That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
> The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's Restaurant".
> I don't know how you would look it up but there must be some records of
> proceedings at the induction center dating to back then.
> It's true, even if strange.
> Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no respect for
> authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
> Bill (I tried) Baka
Every newsgroup needs a story teller like Bill Baka. He is actually quite a
good story teller because at least he has a sense of humor about things.
Anyone who can make me smile is a good guy and ought to be cherished by the
group.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 21:35:35
From: DI
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:Y7lei.41234$5j1.34083@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
> That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the mess of
> military record keeping. What made that day memorable was that the Army
> bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit in the heat until
> another bus could pick us up. It was only about a 45 mile trip from San
> Jose up to Oakland and some of us were joking that if our guns were that
> good we really didn't want to be in the Army.
> The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we all had to strip
> butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks, 3 or 4 guys got erections
> and were immediately shown to the door.
> That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
> The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's Restaurant".
> I don't know how you would look it up but there must be some records of
> proceedings at the induction center dating to back then.
> It's true, even if strange.
> Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no respect for
> authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
> Bill (I tried) Baka
Your last sentence makes a little sense, except they had guys called "Drill
Sergeants" that could solve that situation. I was draft age during the
Cuban Missile Crisis, and enlisted in the Air Force only to flunk the
physical, by Vietnam I had a family, if not I would have been drafted even
with the handicap. About the only requirements for draft eligibility was a
warm body and be able to walk.
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 21:13:19
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
DI wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Y7lei.41234$5j1.34083@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>
>> That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the mess
>> of military record keeping. What made that day memorable was that
>> the Army bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit in the
>> heat until another bus could pick us up. It was only about a 45 mile
>> trip from San Jose up to Oakland and some of us were joking that if
>> our guns were that good we really didn't want to be in the Army.
>> The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we all had to
>> strip butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks, 3 or 4 guys
>> got erections and were immediately shown to the door.
>> That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
>> The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's
>> Restaurant". I don't know how you would look it up but there must be
>> some records of proceedings at the induction center dating to back
>> then. It's true, even if strange.
>> Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no
>> respect for authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
>> Bill (I tried) Baka
>
> Your last sentence makes a little sense, except they had guys called
> "Drill Sergeants" that could solve that situation. I was draft age
> during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and enlisted in the Air Force only
> to flunk the physical, by Vietnam I had a family, if not I would have
> been drafted even with the handicap. About the only requirements
> for draft eligibility was a warm body and be able to walk.
I personally know a guy who tells a story of getting in a brawl (he's got
monstrous guns to this day) and hitting a cop. Bottom line choice he got
was go to prison or enlist in the military. Next stop, Vietnam.
Yet Bill says they rejected him for a few too many traffic tix! LOL
What a maroon. (If only the police had records, the Army had records, his
MOTHER had records, /then/ we'd all know he's not a bullshitter! LOL
indeed...)
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Date: 21 Jun 2007 16:40:07
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
Bill Sornson wrote:
:: DI wrote:
::: "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
::: news:Y7lei.41234$5j1.34083@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
::::::
:::: That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the
:::: mess of military record keeping. What made that day memorable was
:::: that the Army bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit
:::: in the heat until another bus could pick us up. It was only about
:::: a 45 mile trip from San Jose up to Oakland and some of us were
:::: joking that if our guns were that good we really didn't want to be
:::: in the Army. The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we
:::: all had to strip butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks,
:::: 3 or 4 guys got erections and were immediately shown to the door.
:::: That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
:::: The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's
:::: Restaurant". I don't know how you would look it up but there must
:::: be some records of proceedings at the induction center dating to
:::: back then. It's true, even if strange.
:::: Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no
:::: respect for authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
:::: Bill (I tried) Baka
:::
::: Your last sentence makes a little sense, except they had guys called
::: "Drill Sergeants" that could solve that situation. I was draft
::: age during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and enlisted in the Air Force
::: only to flunk the physical, by Vietnam I had a family, if not I
::: would have been drafted even with the handicap. About the only
::: requirements for draft eligibility was a warm body and be able to
::: walk.
::
:: I personally know a guy who tells a story of getting in a brawl
:: (he's got monstrous guns to this day) and hitting a cop. Bottom
:: line choice he got was go to prison or enlist in the military. Next
:: stop, Vietnam.
::
:: Yet Bill says they rejected him for a few too many traffic tix! LOL
Maybe his memory is bad, Bill....perhaps get got erected for that other
reason they sent "guys" packing. :)
::
:: What a maroon. (If only the police had records, the Army had
:: records, his MOTHER had records, /then/ we'd all know he's not a
:: bullshitter! LOL indeed...)
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 20:05:32
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
DI wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Y7lei.41234$5j1.34083@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...
>> That's a true story, so it should be on record somewhere in the mess of
>> military record keeping. What made that day memorable was that the Army
>> bus that we started on broke down and we had to sit in the heat until
>> another bus could pick us up. It was only about a 45 mile trip from San
>> Jose up to Oakland and some of us were joking that if our guns were that
>> good we really didn't want to be in the Army.
>> The other little off the wall tidbit was that when we all had to strip
>> butt naked and bend over for hemorrhoids checks, 3 or 4 guys got erections
>> and were immediately shown to the door.
>> That was in the days of "No queers allowed.".
>> The whole experience reminded me of Arlo Guthrie and "Alice's Restaurant".
>> I don't know how you would look it up but there must be some records of
>> proceedings at the induction center dating to back then.
>> It's true, even if strange.
>> Basically, they told me I had too many traffic tickets and no respect for
>> authority, so I wouldn't make a good little soldier.
>> Bill (I tried) Baka
>
> Your last sentence makes a little sense, except they had guys called "Drill
> Sergeants" that could solve that situation. I was draft age during the
> Cuban Missile Crisis, and enlisted in the Air Force only to flunk the
> physical, by Vietnam I had a family, if not I would have been drafted even
> with the handicap. About the only requirements for draft eligibility was a
> warm body and be able to walk.
>
>
You forgot the requirement for a 'trigger finger'. One guy got rejected
because he lost his right finger in an accident and was right handed, so
they figured he would not be able to fire a gun properly. I also
remember the huge black medic who stuck me about 5 times before getting
a vein to draw blood, with a BIG needle. Interesting day, all in all.
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Jun 2007 18:11:36
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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DI wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Jujei.15374$2v1.3759@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>> Ted wrote:
>>> Bill Baka said "I did volunteer
>>> for the draft"
>>>
>>> How do you "volunteer" for the draft? I thought they were mutually
>>> exclusive.
>>>
>>> Ted.
>>>
>> It was an alternative to just waiting, with the fringe benefit of
>> having to do only a 2 year service period as opposed to the 3 years
>> of a regular draftee. The other upside was that you got more respect
>> from you fellow soldiers than an unwilling draftee. I still wanted
>> to get into the Air Force and play with planes and avionics, but I
>> got turned down by the Air Force every year and never got drafted. I
>> did go down to the Oakland induction center with a bus load of other
>> candidates so I thought my number was coming up after I passed. 6
>> months later I called them, and they said "Don't call us, we'll call
>> you.". ?????? Bill Baka
>
> You're so full of crap.
DI posts the understatement of the day.
BS (not)
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 18:16:22
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 19, 5:52 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jun 19, 3:55 pm, doofy <n...@notme.com> wrote:
>
> > Plonk to the ones who respond to him too.
>
> How he made it out of my kill file is a mystery.
>
> Kill file for Google users:
>
> http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
Geez, if everyone will just ignore Trollin Dolan, he'll go away.
Killfile if ya must, but a little willpower goes a long way in
dispatching this impotent POS.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 18:10:44
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 19, 3:24 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> ...Even the savage Japanese had some standards....
The Japanese have lots of standards: <http://www.jsa.or.jp/
default_english.asp >.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 22:52:29
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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On Jun 19, 3:55 pm, doofy <n...@notme.com > wrote:
> Plonk to the ones who respond to him too.
How he made it out of my kill file is a mystery.
Kill file for Google users:
http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 20:01:00
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Edward Dolan wrote:
> Ed Dolan the Great is death on liberals. Why? Because they will not defend
> this nation against its enemies.
>
> You poor dumb slobs seem to think that individuals count for something,.
> They don't and they never have. We humans are group animals. We are only
> what our groups determine us to be. That is why only group identification
> matters. A lone individual counts for nothing. Soc 101.
>
> So what group do you belong to? Americans? Yea, and you had better believe
> that in the end that is all that counts.
>
> In the contest of groups against groups, you had better get with it or you
> are one dead son of a bitch. Everyone hates individuals who do not get with
> the group when it is a matter of life and death. The group will turn on such
> individuals and kill them without remorse, regarding them as traitors and
> cowards. Traitors and cowards - just the terms for liberals who do not have
> the brains to know anything about group identification.
>
> We are now engaged in a war with other groups (Islamics) who would like to
> see each and everyone of us dead. What does Ed Dolan care about? He only
> cares about America - the nation, not the g.d. Constitution or anything else
> you can dredge up, but only the nation. You can die for the nation if need
> be, but it is far more important that you kill for the nation. Let the other
> poor bastard die for his nation.
>
> I truly do hate liberals with a passion because they are unable to make this
> very elementary group identification. I spent 4 years in the Navy and all
> that counted was the uniform. You were either Navy or you were nowhere.
No shit. You spent 4 years kissing ass and saying "Yes sir.". I tried to
enlist in the Navy and Air Force in 1967 but they said they were full up
and to go join the Army (bad) or the Marines (suicidal). I did volunteer
for the draft so I figured I would be getting a letter and going to see
nice foreign people and then kill them, but it never happened.
It
> is like that with the nation at large, You are either an American or you are
> nowhere.
>
> I say death to fucking liberals. They are not fit to be Americans. I
> consider them to be cowards and traitors. They will not defend this nation
> against its enemies. I do not even consider them to be human beings. They
> are human scum better off dead.
Hey scumbag, will you be happy when they have a camera in every room of
your (presumed) house or institution? Read 1984 again (if you ever did
in the first place) and you will see where the terrorists have convinced
Bush to put us. We can't declare war on an unknown enemy and expect
world support. 9/11 wasn't Pearl Harbor. We knew than who did it.
For all we know, the entire suicide group may have been the total of all
the terrorists and we went to war for nothing.
You, blow hard (and way too much) are an idiot.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 13:55:48
From: doofy
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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Bill wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> Ed Dolan the Great is death on liberals. Why? Because they will not
>> defend this nation against its enemies.
>>
>> You poor dumb slobs seem to think that individuals count for
>> something,. They don't and they never have. We humans are group
>> animals. We are only what our groups determine us to be. That is why
>> only group identification matters. A lone individual counts for
>> nothing. Soc 101.
>>
>> So what group do you belong to? Americans? Yea, and you had better
>> believe that in the end that is all that counts.
>>
>> In the contest of groups against groups, you had better get with it or
>> you are one dead son of a bitch. Everyone hates individuals who do not
>> get with the group when it is a matter of life and death. The group
>> will turn on such individuals and kill them without remorse, regarding
>> them as traitors and cowards. Traitors and cowards - just the terms
>> for liberals who do not have the brains to know anything about group
>> identification.
>>
>> We are now engaged in a war with other groups (Islamics) who would
>> like to see each and everyone of us dead. What does Ed Dolan care
>> about? He only cares about America - the nation, not the g.d.
>> Constitution or anything else you can dredge up, but only the nation.
>> You can die for the nation if need be, but it is far more important
>> that you kill for the nation. Let the other poor bastard die for his
>> nation.
>>
>> I truly do hate liberals with a passion because they are unable to
>> make this very elementary group identification. I spent 4 years in the
>> Navy and all that counted was the uniform. You were either Navy or you
>> were nowhere.
>
>
> No shit. You spent 4 years kissing ass and saying "Yes sir.". I tried to
> enlist in the Navy and Air Force in 1967 but they said they were full up
> and to go join the Army (bad) or the Marines (suicidal). I did volunteer
> for the draft so I figured I would be getting a letter and going to see
> nice foreign people and then kill them, but it never happened.
>
> It
>
>> is like that with the nation at large, You are either an American or
>> you are nowhere.
>>
>> I say death to fucking liberals. They are not fit to be Americans. I
>> consider them to be cowards and traitors. They will not defend this
>> nation against its enemies. I do not even consider them to be human
>> beings. They are human scum better off dead.
>
>
> Hey scumbag, will you be happy when they have a camera in every room of
> your (presumed) house or institution? Read 1984 again (if you ever did
> in the first place) and you will see where the terrorists have convinced
> Bush to put us. We can't declare war on an unknown enemy and expect
> world support. 9/11 wasn't Pearl Harbor. We knew than who did it.
> For all we know, the entire suicide group may have been the total of all
> the terrorists and we went to war for nothing.
> You, blow hard (and way too much) are an idiot.
> Bill Baka
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
Plonk to the ones who respond to him too.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 15:24:44
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:0CWdi.147$K44.98@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> Ed Dolan the Great is death on liberals. Why? Because they will not
>> defend this nation against its enemies.
>>
>> You poor dumb slobs seem to think that individuals count for something,.
>> They don't and they never have. We humans are group animals. We are only
>> what our groups determine us to be. That is why only group identification
>> matters. A lone individual counts for nothing. Soc 101.
>>
>> So what group do you belong to? Americans? Yea, and you had better
>> believe that in the end that is all that counts.
>>
>> In the contest of groups against groups, you had better get with it or
>> you are one dead son of a bitch. Everyone hates individuals who do not
>> get with the group when it is a matter of life and death. The group will
>> turn on such individuals and kill them without remorse, regarding them as
>> traitors and cowards. Traitors and cowards - just the terms for liberals
>> who do not have the brains to know anything about group identification.
>>
>> We are now engaged in a war with other groups (Islamics) who would like
>> to see each and everyone of us dead. What does Ed Dolan care about? He
>> only cares about America - the nation, not the g.d. Constitution or
>> anything else you can dredge up, but only the nation. You can die for the
>> nation if need be, but it is far more important that you kill for the
>> nation. Let the other poor bastard die for his nation.
>>
>> I truly do hate liberals with a passion because they are unable to make
>> this very elementary group identification. I spent 4 years in the Navy
>> and all that counted was the uniform. You were either Navy or you were
>> nowhere.
>
> No shit. You spent 4 years kissing ass and saying "Yes sir.". I tried to
> enlist in the Navy and Air Force in 1967 but they said they were full up
> and to go join the Army (bad) or the Marines (suicidal). I did volunteer
> for the draft so I figured I would be getting a letter and going to see
> nice foreign people and then kill them, but it never happened.
Well, you missed out. But according to Brickston you seem to be a general
fuck-up overall. The fact is that the military does not want fuck-ups like
you. This is especially true now that we have an all-volunteer professional
military. Nope, sorry, no room for fuck-ups like you!
> It
>> is like that with the nation at large, You are either an American or you
>> are nowhere.
>>
>> I say death to fucking liberals. They are not fit to be Americans. I
>> consider them to be cowards and traitors. They will not defend this
>> nation against its enemies. I do not even consider them to be human
>> beings. They are human scum better off dead.
>
> Hey scumbag, will you be happy when they have a camera in every room of
> your (presumed) house or institution? Read 1984 again (if you ever did in
> the first place) and you will see where the terrorists have convinced Bush
> to put us. We can't declare war on an unknown enemy and expect world
> support. 9/11 wasn't Pearl Harbor.
It was actually much worse than Pearl Harbor. We are dealing with any enemy
that has no morality at all. Even the savage Japanese had some standards.
We knew than who did it.
> For all we know, the entire suicide group may have been the total of all
> the terrorists and we went to war for nothing.
> You, blow hard (and way too much) are an idiot.
Bill Baka, Brickston is 100% right about you. You are an idiot pure and
simple. Actually, I rather enjoy idiots like you. Complex idiots are far
more trouble than they are worth, but I can dispose of a simple idiot like
you with the most elementary paradigms.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 13:48:51
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
|
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:0CWdi.147$K44.98@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> Ed Dolan the Great is death on liberals. Why? Because they will not
>>> defend this nation against its enemies.
>>>
>>> You poor dumb slobs seem to think that individuals count for something,.
>>> They don't and they never have. We humans are group animals. We are only
>>> what our groups determine us to be. That is why only group identification
>>> matters. A lone individual counts for nothing. Soc 101.
>>>
>>> So what group do you belong to? Americans? Yea, and you had better
>>> believe that in the end that is all that counts.
>>>
>>> In the contest of groups against groups, you had better get with it or
>>> you are one dead son of a bitch. Everyone hates individuals who do not
>>> get with the group when it is a matter of life and death. The group will
>>> turn on such individuals and kill them without remorse, regarding them as
>>> traitors and cowards. Traitors and cowards - just the terms for liberals
>>> who do not have the brains to know anything about group identification.
>>>
>>> We are now engaged in a war with other groups (Islamics) who would like
>>> to see each and everyone of us dead. What does Ed Dolan care about? He
>>> only cares about America - the nation, not the g.d. Constitution or
>>> anything else you can dredge up, but only the nation. You can die for the
>>> nation if need be, but it is far more important that you kill for the
>>> nation. Let the other poor bastard die for his nation.
>>>
>>> I truly do hate liberals with a passion because they are unable to make
>>> this very elementary group identification. I spent 4 years in the Navy
>>> and all that counted was the uniform. You were either Navy or you were
>>> nowhere.
>> No shit. You spent 4 years kissing ass and saying "Yes sir.". I tried to
>> enlist in the Navy and Air Force in 1967 but they said they were full up
>> and to go join the Army (bad) or the Marines (suicidal). I did volunteer
>> for the draft so I figured I would be getting a letter and going to see
>> nice foreign people and then kill them, but it never happened.
>
> Well, you missed out. But according to Brickston you seem to be a general
> fuck-up overall. The fact is that the military does not want fuck-ups like
> you. This is especially true now that we have an all-volunteer professional
> military. Nope, sorry, no room for fuck-ups like you!
I really missed out, huh? I was an honor roll college student who made
the dean's list and made lots of money in electronics. Real fuck up.
Brickston is the fuck up who is fucked up in the head.
>
>> It
>>> is like that with the nation at large, You are either an American or you
>>> are nowhere.
>>>
>>> I say death to fucking liberals. They are not fit to be Americans. I
>>> consider them to be cowards and traitors. They will not defend this
>>> nation against its enemies. I do not even consider them to be human
>>> beings. They are human scum better off dead.
>> Hey scumbag, will you be happy when they have a camera in every room of
>> your (presumed) house or institution? Read 1984 again (if you ever did in
>> the first place) and you will see where the terrorists have convinced Bush
>> to put us. We can't declare war on an unknown enemy and expect world
>> support. 9/11 wasn't Pearl Harbor.
>
> It was actually much worse than Pearl Harbor. We are dealing with any enemy
> that has no morality at all. Even the savage Japanese had some standards.
Like the Bataan Death march or the random killing of whoever they felt
like? We need a country for a legitimate war and not just war on Muslims
and Islamics. We would have to kill over a billion people to get rid of
them all. Until we get out or commit genocide we are stuck with this shit.
>
> We knew than who did it.
>> For all we know, the entire suicide group may have been the total of all
>> the terrorists and we went to war for nothing.
>> You, blow hard (and way too much) are an idiot.
>
> Bill Baka, Brickston is 100% right about you. You are an idiot pure and
> simple. Actually, I rather enjoy idiots like you. Complex idiots are far
> more trouble than they are worth, but I can dispose of a simple idiot like
> you with the most elementary paradigms.
Your improper use of a simple word like paradigms just proved my point.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 16:20:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Death to Liberals!
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"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:0jXdi.5172$bP5.359@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:0CWdi.147$K44.98@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> Ed Dolan the Great is death on liberals. Why? Because they will not
>>>> defend this nation against its enemies.
>>>>
>>>> You poor dumb slobs seem to think that individuals count for
>>>> something,. They don't and they never have. We humans are group
>>>> animals. We are only what our groups determine us to be. That is why
>>>> only group identification matters. A lone individual counts for
>>>> nothing. Soc 101.
>>>>
>>>> So what group do you belong to? Americans? Yea, and you had better
>>>> believe that in the end that is all that counts.
>>>>
>>>> In the contest of groups against groups, you had better get with it or
>>>> you are one dead son of a bitch. Everyone hates individuals who do not
>>>> get with the group when it is a matter of life and death. The group
>>>> will turn on such individuals and kill them without remorse, regarding
>>>> them as traitors and cowards. Traitors and cowards - just the terms for
>>>> liberals who do not have the brains to know anything about group
>>>> identification.
>>>>
>>>> We are now engaged in a war with other groups (Islamics) who would like
>>>> to see each and everyone of us dead. What does Ed Dolan care about? He
>>>> only cares about America - the nation, not the g.d. Constitution or
>>>> anything else you can dredge up, but only the nation. You can die for
>>>> the nation if need be, but it is far more important that you kill for
>>>> the nation. Let the other poor bastard die for his nation.
>>>>
>>>> I truly do hate liberals with a passion because they are unable to make
>>>> this very elementary group identification. I spent 4 years in the Navy
>>>> and all that counted was the uniform. You were either Navy or you were
>>>> nowhere.
>>> No shit. You spent 4 years kissing ass and saying "Yes sir.". I tried to
>>> enlist in the Navy and Air Force in 1967 but they said they were full up
>>> and to go join the Army (bad) or the Marines (suicidal). I did volunteer
>>> for the draft so I figured I would be getting a letter and going to see
>>> nice foreign people and then kill them, but it never happened.
>>
>> Well, you missed out. But according to Brickston you seem to be a general
>> fuck-up overall. The fact is that the military does not want fuck-ups
>> like you. This is especially true now that we have an all-volunteer
>> professional military. Nope, sorry, no room for fuck-ups like you!
>
> I really missed out, huh? I was an honor roll college student who made the
> dean's list and made lots of money in electronics. Real fuck up.
> Brickston is the fuck up who is fucked up in the head.
So why couldn't you get into the military? It was an elementary duty that we
owed our country back in the 60's.
>>> It
>>>> is like that with the nation at large, You are either an American or
>>>> you are nowhere.
>>>>
>>>> I say death to fucking liberals. They are not fit to be Americans. I
>>>> consider them to be cowards and traitors. They will not defend this
>>>> nation against its enemies. I do not even consider them to be human
>>>> beings. They are human scum better off dead.
>>> Hey scumbag, will you be happy when they have a camera in every room of
>>> your (presumed) house or institution? Read 1984 again (if you ever did
>>> in the first place) and you will see where the terrorists have convinced
>>> Bush to put us. We can't declare war on an unknown enemy and expect
>>> world support. 9/11 wasn't Pearl Harbor.
>>
>> It was actually much worse than Pearl Harbor. We are dealing with any
>> enemy that has no morality at all. Even the savage Japanese had some
>> standards.
>
> Like the Bataan Death march or the random killing of whoever they felt
> like? We need a country for a legitimate war and not just war on Muslims
> and Islamics. We would have to kill over a billion people to get rid of
> them all. Until we get out or commit genocide we are stuck with this shit.
It is mainly the Arab Muslims of the Middle East we need to concentrate on.
The others are no threat to us, at least not yet. The Iranians are not Arabs
of course, but they are now the number one threat and we are going to have
to deal with them sooner or later.
>> We knew than who did it.
>>> For all we know, the entire suicide group may have been the total of all
>>> the terrorists and we went to war for nothing.
>>> You, blow hard (and way too much) are an idiot.
>>
>> Bill Baka, Brickston is 100% right about you. You are an idiot pure and
>> simple. Actually, I rather enjoy idiots like you. Complex idiots are far
>> more trouble than they are worth, but I can dispose of a simple idiot
>> like you with the most elementary paradigms.
>
> Your improper use of a simple word like paradigms just proved my point.
> Bill Baka
"paradigm
A standard or typical example"
You are a common idiot which is to be found everywhere in these United
States. In fact, California is the original loony bin.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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