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Date: 15 Jul 2007 06:02:12
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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Some of you may well ask why Ed Dolan the Great continues to hang around
these freaking cycling newsgroups (all one word) when he has such contempt
for the lot of you. Well, it is all due to Tom Sherman of ARBR.
I value intellect above all else. Tom Sherman has that and he also has the
courage to expound his views. His liberal views do not bother me in the
slightest since I once held all those views myself, perhaps even more
extreme than him. Yea, I read Marx and Lenin and Engles and was bamboozled
by what I had read. It took me many years to overcome those childish
illusions. It mainly happened when I lived in NYC in the 60's and witnessed
first hand how all the scofflaws gamed the Great Society of Lyndon Johnson.
I do not regard Tom Sherman as an enemy at all but as a true antagonist with
whom I can connect. Even his defense of Ed Gin, the most notorious criminal
vandal troll who ever ruined a newsgroup, was mainly due to his loyalty to a
friend, so this is not totally reprehensible. Of course, he should have
defended the newsgroup, but still I can see his loyalty to a friend.
I cannot stay on these cycling newsgroups unless I occasionally encounter an
intellectual like Tom Sherman. Idiots are not interesting at all. But I am
not going to let any of them have the last word regardless. But it is only
due to Tom Sherman that I stay here at all.
Despite what he may think I will defend him if and when he ever comes under
attack from an idiot. He knows more about recumbents than anyone, even
including Robert Bryant, the editor of RCN (Recumbent Cyclist News). He is a
pleasure to read when he is talking about recumbents. ARBR would be next to
nothing without him.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 13:23:49
From: JimmyMac
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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This is pure rubbish. Ed isn't here because of Tom. He is here for
himself. and because he has nothing better to do with his time. and
because he enjoys seeing his gibberish in print, the writer's
equivalent of liking the sound of his own voice. If he were here just
for Tom, then when Tom appeared to have left ARBR and hadn't posted
in many months, he would not have stayed on. Instead of departing
himself, Ed made numerous "Where's Tom Sherman" posts. The archives
stand in testimony. Ed was obviously convinced that Tom had left for
good and yet he remained with much weeping and gnahing of teeth over
Tom's absence, so don't buy any of his bullshit as to why he is here.
We know why he's here and I suspect that he knows that we know why
he's here.
The peculiar thing is that Ed Dolan writes quite often about the
proximity of his imminent demise and yet inexplicably squanders the
time he has remaining spewing nonsense in cyberspace forums. Time is
a precious commodity ... one which Ed Dolan has not yet mastered to
waste wisely.
Jim McNamara
This is pure rubbish. Ed isn't here because of Tom. He is here for
himself. and because he has nothing better to do with his time. and
because he enjoys seeing his gibberish in print, the writer's
equivalent of liking the sound of his own voice. If he were here just
for Tom, then when Tom appeared to have left ARBR and hadn't posted
in many months, he would not have stayed on. Instead of departing
himself, Ed made numerous "Where's Tom Sherman" posts. The archives
stand in testimony. Ed was obviously convinced that Tom had left for
good and yet he remained with much weeping and gnahing of teeth over
Tom's absence, so don't buy any of his bullshit as to why he is here.
We know why he's here and I suspect that he knows that we know why
he's here.
The peculiar thing is that Ed Dolan writes quite often about the
proximity of his imminent demise and yet inexplicably squanders the
time he has remaining spewing nonsense in cyberspace forums. Time is
a precious commodity ... one which Ed Dolan has not yet mastered to
waste wisely.
Jim McNamara
P.S.. Top posted to give the curmudgeon the opportunity to predictably
pitch a bitch.
On Jul 15, 6:02 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> Some of you may well ask why Ed Dolan the Great continues to hang around
> these freaking cycling newsgroups (all one word) when he has such contempt
> for the lot of you. Well, it is all due to Tom Sherman of ARBR.
>
> I value intellect above all else. Tom Sherman has that and he also has the
> courage to expound his views. His liberal views do not bother me in the
> slightest since I once held all those views myself, perhaps even more
> extreme than him. Yea, I read Marx and Lenin and Engles and was bamboozled
> by what I had read. It took me many years to overcome those childish
> illusions. It mainly happened when I lived in NYC in the 60's and witnessed
> first hand how all the scofflaws gamed the Great Society of Lyndon Johnson.
>
> I do not regard Tom Sherman as an enemy at all but as a true antagonist with
> whom I can connect. Even his defense of Ed Gin, the most notorious criminal
> vandal troll who ever ruined a newsgroup, was mainly due to his loyalty to a
> friend, so this is not totally reprehensible. Of course, he should have
> defended the newsgroup, but still I can see his loyalty to a friend.
>
> I cannot stay on these cycling newsgroups unless I occasionally encounter an
> intellectual like Tom Sherman. Idiots are not interesting at all. But I am
> not going to let any of them have the last word regardless. But it is only
> due to Tom Sherman that I stay here at all.
>
> Despite what he may think I will defend him if and when he ever comes under
> attack from an idiot. He knows more about recumbents than anyone, even
> including Robert Bryant, the editor of RCN (Recumbent Cyclist News). He is a
> pleasure to read when he is talking about recumbents. ARBR would be next to
> nothing without him.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 05:42:12
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1184790229.382660.87050@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> This is pure rubbish. Ed isn't here because of Tom. He is here for
> himself. and because he has nothing better to do with his time. and
> because he enjoys seeing his gibberish in print, the writer's
> equivalent of liking the sound of his own voice. If he were here just
> for Tom, then when Tom appeared to have left ARBR and hadn't posted
> in many months, he would not have stayed on. Instead of departing
> himself, Ed made numerous "Where's Tom Sherman" posts. The archives
> stand in testimony. Ed was obviously convinced that Tom had left for
> good and yet he remained with much weeping and gnahing of teeth over
> Tom's absence, so don't buy any of his bullshit as to why he is here.
> We know why he's here and I suspect that he knows that we know why
> he's here.
All of the above is proof that I needed Tom Sherman as a worthy foil.
Besides, I knew he wasn't gone for good.
Hells Bells, I have been talking to myself all of my life, but it is such a
pleasure to get someone like Tom Sherman who will talk back to my
mutterings. He is yin to my yang. The reason why he succeeds in interesting
me is because he will occasionally take me on with some intelligence,
something the rest of you are incapable of doing.
> The peculiar thing is that Ed Dolan writes quite often about the
> proximity of his imminent demise and yet inexplicably squanders the
> time he has remaining spewing nonsense in cyberspace forums. Time is
> a precious commodity ... one which Ed Dolan has not yet mastered to
> waste wisely.
Who knows what amount of time any of us have left? But whether much or
little, I do not think it is a precious commodity. After all, the world
existed long before I came into it and it will continue to exist long after
I have left it.
Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again.
- Epitaph found on tombstone in Ohio graveyard
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
[...]
> On Jul 15, 6:02 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> Some of you may well ask why Ed Dolan the Great continues to hang around
>> these freaking cycling newsgroups (all one word) when he has such
>> contempt
>> for the lot of you. Well, it is all due to Tom Sherman of ARBR.
>>
>> I value intellect above all else. Tom Sherman has that and he also has
>> the
>> courage to expound his views. His liberal views do not bother me in the
>> slightest since I once held all those views myself, perhaps even more
>> extreme than him. Yea, I read Marx and Lenin and Engles and was
>> bamboozled
>> by what I had read. It took me many years to overcome those childish
>> illusions. It mainly happened when I lived in NYC in the 60's and
>> witnessed
>> first hand how all the scofflaws gamed the Great Society of Lyndon
>> Johnson.
>>
>> I do not regard Tom Sherman as an enemy at all but as a true antagonist
>> with
>> whom I can connect. Even his defense of Ed Gin, the most notorious
>> criminal
>> vandal troll who ever ruined a newsgroup, was mainly due to his loyalty
>> to a
>> friend, so this is not totally reprehensible. Of course, he should have
>> defended the newsgroup, but still I can see his loyalty to a friend.
>>
>> I cannot stay on these cycling newsgroups unless I occasionally encounter
>> an
>> intellectual like Tom Sherman. Idiots are not interesting at all. But I
>> am
>> not going to let any of them have the last word regardless. But it is
>> only
>> due to Tom Sherman that I stay here at all.
>>
>> Despite what he may think I will defend him if and when he ever comes
>> under
>> attack from an idiot. He knows more about recumbents than anyone, even
>> including Robert Bryant, the editor of RCN (Recumbent Cyclist News). He
>> is a
>> pleasure to read when he is talking about recumbents. ARBR would be next
>> to
>> nothing without him.
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Date: 16 Jul 2007 10:03:27
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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Ed Dolan has 0 friends, so yes that is a true subject line.
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 05:23:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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"Mike A Schwab" <mike.a.schwab@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1184580207.533492.112830@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> Ed Dolan has 0 friends, so yes that is a true subject line.
Nonsense, when you have a really good enemy like Tom Sherman, then you have
a true friend. I don't know anyone else I have been fighting with for over 4
years who will still speak to me. Yea, he is a friend for sure!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 18:43:30
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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In article <SoCdnXA9df4rYwTbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@prairiewave.com >,
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > writes:
> Some of you may well ask why Ed Dolan the Great continues to hang around
> these freaking cycling newsgroups (all one word) when he has such contempt
> for the lot of you.
You're a mirror in which we perceive the worst of ourselves.
You bring the worst in everybody out into the light of day,
and then we can deal with it, if we're so inclined and
have the jam to.
You should've been a minor league hockey coach.
I love you! <big, slobbery, Bugs Bunny smooch >
You take care o' yerself now, y'hear?
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 05:13:24
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:2gie7f.ba.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
> In article <SoCdnXA9df4rYwTbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@prairiewave.com>,
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> writes:
>
>> Some of you may well ask why Ed Dolan the Great continues to hang around
>> these freaking cycling newsgroups (all one word) when he has such
>> contempt
>> for the lot of you.
>
> You're a mirror in which we perceive the worst of ourselves.
>
> You bring the worst in everybody out into the light of day,
> and then we can deal with it, if we're so inclined and
> have the jam to.
>
> You should've been a minor league hockey coach.
>
> I love you! <big, slobbery, Bugs Bunny smooch>
>
>
> You take care o' yerself now, y'hear?
I fear that Tom Keats may almost be to the point of understanding me.
Horrors! I do not want to be understood. I only want to be free to excoriate
the lot of you. Please do not get in my way while I do this.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 16:44:19
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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Where is ED anyway? Not seeing any posts form him.
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 06:35:21
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:2gie7f.ba.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
>
> You're a mirror in which we perceive the worst of ourselves.
>
> You bring the worst in everybody out into the light of day,
> and then we can deal with it, if we're so inclined and
> have the jam to.
>
There isn't really a "worst of ourselves" and there is nothing to deal with.
There is plenty to observe, however.
Without dark there is no distinction called light. Everything would simply
be the same.
The part about other people being mirrors in which we can perceive aspects
of ourselves resonates for me as well. When we say that we are all one it
does not mean that we are undifferentiated. If that were the case then the
entire universe as we are able to know it wouldn't exist.
As long as there is an I that can distinguish itself from you then we have
the whole ball of wax. Where it all came from and where it is all going, I
haven't a clue but I'm pleased to be along for the ride. Thanks for the
opportunity to reflect.
Jeff
Note: I wish I could claim these ideas as my own original thought but, alas,
I can not. These ideas came to me from Alan Watts who is possible the
greatest philosopher of our time.
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 05:17:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Ed Dolan & Tom Sherman - Enemies Forever?
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"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote in message
news:139rr8egnnkft77@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2gie7f.ba.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
>>
>> You're a mirror in which we perceive the worst of ourselves.
>>
>> You bring the worst in everybody out into the light of day,
>> and then we can deal with it, if we're so inclined and
>> have the jam to.
>>
>
> There isn't really a "worst of ourselves" and there is nothing to deal
> with. There is plenty to observe, however.
>
> Without dark there is no distinction called light. Everything would simply
> be the same.
>
> The part about other people being mirrors in which we can perceive aspects
> of ourselves resonates for me as well. When we say that we are all one it
> does not mean that we are undifferentiated. If that were the case then the
> entire universe as we are able to know it wouldn't exist.
>
> As long as there is an I that can distinguish itself from you then we have
> the whole ball of wax. Where it all came from and where it is all going, I
> haven't a clue but I'm pleased to be along for the ride. Thanks for the
> opportunity to reflect.
>
> Jeff
>
> Note: I wish I could claim these ideas as my own original thought but,
> alas, I can not. These ideas came to me from Alan Watts who is possible
> the greatest philosopher of our time.
Jeff, I have never had an original idea in my entire life and I never will.
But that does not matter. All that matters is that we take from others
whatever is worth taking and then give it our own spin. Hells Bells, that is
all any of us can ever do.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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