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Date: 16 Feb 2005 15:43:58
From: Zach
Subject: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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This writeup is a month late but I've been very busy and finally have time to write this. Every year around the time of the winter solstice in December Craig Robertson of a loosely knit San Francisco penninsula bike club called Bikeaholics puts on the Winter Solstice Double Century and Century. Since 2001 I've been doing the century version. This year the WSDC was postponed to 8 January and due to a massive storm that weekend it was once again pushed up to 15 January. I decided to do the full double century version this year because I'm literally sick of doing double centuries in hot weather so here was my chance to do a double century without worrying about heat, hydration and electrolyte loss. Ken Holloway graciously hosts the start and finish of the WSDC at his home in San Jose. From San Jose it goes through Los Gatos to Gilroy where it picks up the century riders, then goes out to Pinacles, back to Gilroy via a different route and then back to San Jose. As has become my tradition for double centuries that start in relatively distant places I stayed at the starting area the night before in my van. This was my first time driving in three weeks. My alarm went off at the unreasonable hour of 4:15 but that was just on time for the double century which started at 5:00. Here is a photo taken of me signing in at Ken's house, looking like I just woke up and don't want to be up both of which were the case: http://www.campyonly.com/images/ride_photos/2005/1-15-05_wsdc/img_0043.jpg Also here I am with another rider who looks to be in the same situation: http://www.campyonly.com/images/ride_photos/2005/1-15-05_wsdc/img_0042.jpg At 5:00 I joined 14 other men for the mass start in front of Ken's house. I expected to see Nicole Honda there who I had crewed for on the Furnace Creek 508 last year but it turned out the later date conflicted with her holiday so there weren't any women on the double. As I got onto my Bacchetta Aero and started my Polar heart rate monitor/altimeter I realised I wasn't wearing my HRM transmitter. It wasn't in the Radical Solo seat bag where I keep it so this was going to be just one more of many doubles done without a HRM. That was really no big deal as I wasn't planning on going hard this early in the year, it just would have been nice to know what my average heart rate was. Here is a photo taken at the start, I'm standing on the right of the photo with my Aero: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15315-q1-480x360.html Most of the riders were familiar from double centuries and brevets. There was one other recumbent rider, Tim Woudenberg, riding a Barcroft Virginia with fogged up Mueller front fairing. A couple guys were on fixed gear bikes, true masochists I guess. The temperature was freezing with frost on the roofs and lawns. We initially rode as a group as there were lots of turns on residential streets. I kept up with the group going up the first major climb but on the next major climb I let many of the group and Tim gradually drift ahead and out of sight as they are stronger riders (Tim road a Lightning on Team RAAM last year) and I didn't want to go too hard this early in the year. I rode by myself on the rolling hills south of Los Gatos enjoying the scenery of frost covered fields. Despite wearing liner gloves with outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come and go but nothing else was too cold. After about an hour it was time to eat the first Clif Bar. That is when I discovered the bag of eight Clif Bars was missing from my seat bag. I saw SAG driver Tom Lawrence pulled over at one of the turns and asked if he had any food. He didn't but said he'd try to get some. Down the road he pulled over and gave me several cookie like things that were in clear plastic bags. I later found out these were experimental pumpkin based energy bars produced by one of the men on the ride and his physician wife. They were excellent and much easier to chew than Clif Bars. I ended up having many more of these throughout the ride. I believe they are test keting these and might be going into production but forgot the names. After 72 kilometres I pulled into the first rest stop at Christmas Hill Park in Gilroy. The riders who were ahead of me were still there. Craig's wife Lorna Toyota had food and coffee on the folding table where riders were signing in. Normally I don't drink coffee but given the temperature and the fact I hadn't had my green tea that morning I drank a cup of coffee. I wasn't the only one with numb fingers as I heard Tim say he wished he could dip his fingers in the coffee to thaw them out and he had the benefit of a front fairing. I noted the post I leaned my Aero up against had a covering of ice on the top and the grass in the park was covered with frost. Here is a photo of the Aero and myself at the Gilroy rest stop: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15323-q1-480x360.html I saw Ed Wesley of the Grizzly Peak Cyclists in Gilroy starting the century version of the ride. He had arrived in Gilroy with his road bike not knowing he would end up captaining a tandem on the century for a spunky woman named Annie who apparently approached him at the start and invited him to ride her tandem. The ride from Gilroy to Pinnacles was uneventful and it gradually warmed up though I ended up wearing my shoe covers and sock bags for the entire ride. I rode solo the whole way to Pinnacles getting passed by just one rider on the climb and later passing him on another part of the climb. At the top of the climb to Pinnacles I saw Tim repairing a puncture. I would have stopped to help him out but I felt a bit of a time crunch as I wanted to minimise night riding so I could do the whole ride on one Light & Motion lithium-ion battery pack without having to plug in my spare battery. These batteries run the ARC headlight 3.5 hours. I also figured being faster Tim would catch up to me later on. For lunch at the Pinnacles stop I ate numerous sweet rice balls. They are sweet and salty and go down and digest easily. The last time I had these was the year before on the Winter Solstice Century. I wish more rides had these at the rest stops. The only problem with them is they leave a sticky mess on the hands. While refilling my Platypus 2-litre hydration bladder I discovered the tube had rubbed against the rear tyre at some point and had a small hole in it. One of the SAG drivers named Graham gave me some duct tape to patch this up. Tim pulled in to the lunch stop just as I was pulling out. It turns out he had a rear puncture and had also bonked from going too hard. I told him he'd see me down the road but he didn't seem so sure. Coming down the descent from Pinnacles I could see the other riders who were still heading out to Pinnacles. Ed on the tandem cheered me on. I rode back to Gilroy solo only encountering one other rider going my direction, the same guy who I had encountered climbing the hill and at Gilroy I found out he was doing the century version. On the ride back to Gilroy I started to have some knee tendon pain inboard of my right patella and behind my left knee. Nothing about the bike adjustment had changed and I had done three hilly double centuries on this bike the year before so I attributed the pain to a combination of the first long ride in a while and the cold temperatures. I was wearing fairly thick tights but not my thickest ones as those were damaged in a tricycle accident in December. I again indulged in the rice balls, this time handling them with a plastic bag so as to keep the residue off my hands. The nice thing about riding in cooler weather is you don't have to be so worried about hydration. I topped off my hydration bladder but only to half full thus saving weight. At this rest stop Tom Lawrence noticed the Rotor Cranks on my Aero. He is an engineer and had never seen these before. He was fascinated with them moving the cranks around trying to figure out how they worked. After some discussion about the Rotors I grabbed some more energy bars and was on my way. Some where near Los Gatos the sun started setting and I watched the low pressure sodium vapour street lights start to strike red neon arcs in their arc tubes as they warmed up and gradually shifted to yellow. Low pressure sodium vapour lamps are more efficient than the high pressure sodium lamps common in North America and also put out less glare as they have much longer arc tubes, more like fluorescent. I guess they aren't so common in the US because their light output is monochromatic yellow with zero colour rendition unlike the HPS lamps which put out a more amber light that has some colour rendition though still not much. In the southern part of the Silicon Valley almost all the street lights are LPS due to Lick Observatory being atop neary Mt. Hamilton. It is easier for them to filter out one wavelength of yellow on their telescope. It was a nice treat to see all these LPS street lights in action. Around this time I pulled into the carpark of a chain restaurant for a brief break and fired up my own discharge lamp, the Light & Motion ARC metal halide light on the front of my Aero. Its beam looked more blue then ever in contrast to the monochromatic yellow street lights. There were a bunch of turns near the end and Tom waited in his car for me at each turn to show me where to go. There was a potluck party and showers available at Ken's house at the finish. The fast riders had been in for a while but plenty of riders came in well after me so I was probably some where in the middle. Tim Woudenberg came in 35 minutes after me. I was feeling good but pretty tired from inadequate sleep. I told Ken I'd stay out in the van and leave the next morning. He invited me to stay in the house but I prefer staying in my own bed so I stayed out in the van. The next morning I discovered my HRM transmitter sitting on the edge of the road. It had been there over 24 hours and must have fallen out of my seat bag when I was getting ready for the ride the previous morning. If anyone in Northern California wants to do a double century that isn't in the heat of the summer I highly recommend the Winter Solstice Double. The rest stops are far apart but it is well supported and the scenery once you get out of the suburban area is nice. Thanks to all the volunteers who helped support this ride. Ride statistics: 320.61 km (199.2178179 miles) Average rolling speed 26.1 km/h (16.2177881 mph) Maximum speed: 72.6 km/h (45.1115486 mph) Total climbing: 2370 metres (7,775.5905512 feet) Maximum altitude: 450 metres (1,476.3779528 feet) Total time including stops: 13:57 Rolling time (12:16:40) Here is the link to the page of photos taken by fixie rider Eric Norris: http://www.campyonly.com/mypages/wsdc_2005.html Here is the link to the page of photos taken by Tom Lawrence on the WSDC: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/ Here are the links to photos my Aero and I are in: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15344-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15345-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15346-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15366-q1-480x360.html Here are links to photos of Tim Woudenberg and his Barcroft Dakota: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15327-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15337-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15338-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15362-q1-480x360.html Here are links to photos of Ed Wesley captaining with Annie stoking: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15354-q1-480x360.html http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15355-q1-480x360.html -------------------------------------------- Zach Kaplan Cycles Alameda, Northern California, North America 510-522-BENT (2368) zakaplan-at-earthlink-dot-net
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Date: 18 Feb 2005 20:09:36
From: Zach
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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Freewheeling wrote: > Zach: > > "I saw Ed Wesley of the Grizzly Peak Cyclists in Gilroy starting the > century version of the ride. He had arrived in Gilroy with his road > bike not knowing he would end up captaining a tandem on the century for > a spunky woman named Annie who apparently approached him at the start > and invited him to ride her tandem." > > I have a friend who, in his divorce, insisted on getting the tandem, > figuring it would be a great way to meet women. Worked out pretty well for > him. > > -- > --Scott I've heard of men doing that but it is unusual for a woman to keep a tandem in her minivan along with her single bike on the off chance that a guy at the start of a century would want to captain it for her. I still have my Double Vision but it doesn't get out much. The last ride I did on it was picking up John Tetz at the Amtrak station in June of 2004 and the last ride on it before that was doing the Davis Double Century in May 2004 with a road bike rider in my bike club who broke his shoulder going over the handlebars and had his arm in a sling. I thought about taking it to Burning Man last year to give rides to women but it would have been a hassle to split the frame to get it into the motorhome and I feared there would be rear wheel traction problems riding it solo on the sometimes loose surface of the Playa. It is good I didn't bring it because I had enough traction problems with my HP Velotechnik Street Machine GT. The BiGHA I took to Burning Man in 2003 was better suited to those off-road conditions. Zach
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 15:25:29
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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Zach: "I saw Ed Wesley of the Grizzly Peak Cyclists in Gilroy starting the century version of the ride. He had arrived in Gilroy with his road bike not knowing he would end up captaining a tandem on the century for a spunky woman named Annie who apparently approached him at the start and invited him to ride her tandem." I have a friend who, in his divorce, insisted on getting the tandem, figuring it would be a great way to meet women. Worked out pretty well for him. -- --Scott "Zach" <zakaplan@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in message news:1108597438.029696.248620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > This writeup is a month late but I've been very busy and finally have > time to write this. > > Every year around the time of the winter solstice in December Craig > Robertson of a loosely knit San Francisco penninsula bike club called > Bikeaholics puts on the Winter Solstice Double Century and Century. > Since 2001 I've been doing the century version. This year the WSDC was > postponed to 8 January and due to a massive storm that weekend it was > once again pushed up to 15 January. I decided to do the full double > century version this year because I'm literally sick of doing double > centuries in hot weather so here was my chance to do a double century > without worrying about heat, hydration and electrolyte loss. > > Ken Holloway graciously hosts the start and finish of the WSDC at his > home in San Jose. From San Jose it goes through Los Gatos to Gilroy > where it picks up the century riders, then goes out to Pinacles, back > to Gilroy via a different route and then back to San Jose. > > As has become my tradition for double centuries that start in > relatively distant places I stayed at the starting area the night > before in my van. This was my first time driving in three weeks. My > alarm went off at the unreasonable hour of 4:15 but that was just on > time for the double century which started at 5:00. Here is a photo > taken of me signing in at Ken's house, looking like I just woke up and > don't want to be up both of which were the case: > http://www.campyonly.com/images/ride_photos/2005/1-15-05_wsdc/img_0043.jpg > > Also here I am with another rider who looks to be in the same > situation: > http://www.campyonly.com/images/ride_photos/2005/1-15-05_wsdc/img_0042.jpg > > At 5:00 I joined 14 other men for the mass start in front of Ken's > house. I expected to see Nicole Honda there who I had crewed for on the > Furnace Creek 508 last year but it turned out the later date conflicted > with her holiday so there weren't any women on the double. As I got > onto my Bacchetta Aero and started my Polar heart rate > monitor/altimeter I realised I wasn't wearing my HRM transmitter. It > wasn't in the Radical Solo seat bag where I keep it so this was going > to be just one more of many doubles done without a HRM. That was really > no big deal as I wasn't planning on going hard this early in the year, > it just would have been nice to know what my average heart rate was. > Here is a photo taken at the start, I'm standing on the right of the > photo with my Aero: > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15315-q1-480x360.html > > Most of the riders were familiar from double centuries and brevets. > There was one other recumbent rider, Tim Woudenberg, riding a Barcroft > Virginia with fogged up Mueller front fairing. A couple guys were on > fixed gear bikes, true masochists I guess. The temperature was freezing > with frost on the roofs and lawns. We initially rode as a group as > there were lots of turns on residential streets. > > I kept up with the group going up the first major climb but on the next > major climb I let many of the group and Tim gradually drift ahead and > out of sight as they are stronger riders (Tim road a Lightning on Team > RAAM last year) and I didn't want to go too hard this early in the > year. > > I rode by myself on the rolling hills south of Los Gatos enjoying the > scenery of frost covered fields. Despite wearing liner gloves with > outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed > numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come > and go but nothing else was too cold. After about an hour it was time > to eat the first Clif Bar. That is when I discovered the bag of eight > Clif Bars was missing from my seat bag. I saw SAG driver Tom Lawrence > pulled over at one of the turns and asked if he had any food. He didn't > but said he'd try to get some. Down the road he pulled over and gave me > several cookie like things that were in clear plastic bags. I later > found out these were experimental pumpkin based energy bars produced by > one of the men on the ride and his physician wife. They were excellent > and much easier to chew than Clif Bars. I ended up having many more of > these throughout the ride. I believe they are test keting these and > might be going into production but forgot the names. > > After 72 kilometres I pulled into the first rest stop at Christmas Hill > Park in Gilroy. The riders who were ahead of me were still there. > Craig's wife Lorna Toyota had food and coffee on the folding table > where riders were signing in. Normally I don't drink coffee but given > the temperature and the fact I hadn't had my green tea that morning I > drank a cup of coffee. I wasn't the only one with numb fingers as I > heard Tim say he wished he could dip his fingers in the coffee to thaw > them out and he had the benefit of a front fairing. I noted the post I > leaned my Aero up against had a covering of ice on the top and the > grass in the park was covered with frost. > > Here is a photo of the Aero and myself at the Gilroy rest stop: > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15323-q1-480x360.html > > I saw Ed Wesley of the Grizzly Peak Cyclists in Gilroy starting the > century version of the ride. He had arrived in Gilroy with his road > bike not knowing he would end up captaining a tandem on the century for > a spunky woman named Annie who apparently approached him at the start > and invited him to ride her tandem. > > The ride from Gilroy to Pinnacles was uneventful and it gradually > warmed up though I ended up wearing my shoe covers and sock bags for > the entire ride. I rode solo the whole way to Pinnacles getting passed > by just one rider on the climb and later passing him on another part of > the climb. At the top of the climb to Pinnacles I saw Tim repairing a > puncture. I would have stopped to help him out but I felt a bit of a > time crunch as I wanted to minimise night riding so I could do the > whole ride on one Light & Motion lithium-ion battery pack without > having to plug in my spare battery. These batteries run the ARC > headlight 3.5 hours. I also figured being faster Tim would catch up to > me later on. > > For lunch at the Pinnacles stop I ate numerous sweet rice balls. They > are sweet and salty and go down and digest easily. The last time I had > these was the year before on the Winter Solstice Century. I wish more > rides had these at the rest stops. The only problem with them is they > leave a sticky mess on the hands. > > While refilling my Platypus 2-litre hydration bladder I discovered the > tube had rubbed against the rear tyre at some point and had a small > hole in it. One of the SAG drivers named Graham gave me some duct tape > to patch this up. > > Tim pulled in to the lunch stop just as I was pulling out. It turns out > he had a rear puncture and had also bonked from going too hard. I told > him he'd see me down the road but he didn't seem so sure. > > Coming down the descent from Pinnacles I could see the other riders who > were still heading out to Pinnacles. Ed on the tandem cheered me on. I > rode back to Gilroy solo only encountering one other rider going my > direction, the same guy who I had encountered climbing the hill and at > Gilroy I found out he was doing the century version. > > On the ride back to Gilroy I started to have some knee tendon pain > inboard of my right patella and behind my left knee. Nothing about the > bike adjustment had changed and I had done three hilly double centuries > on this bike the year before so I attributed the pain to a combination > of the first long ride in a while and the cold temperatures. I was > wearing fairly thick tights but not my thickest ones as those were > damaged in a tricycle accident in December. > > I again indulged in the rice balls, this time handling them with a > plastic bag so as to keep the residue off my hands. The nice thing > about riding in cooler weather is you don't have to be so worried about > hydration. I topped off my hydration bladder but only to half full thus > saving weight. At this rest stop Tom Lawrence noticed the Rotor Cranks > on my Aero. He is an engineer and had never seen these before. He was > fascinated with them moving the cranks around trying to figure out how > they worked. After some discussion about the Rotors I grabbed some more > energy bars and was on my way. > > Some where near Los Gatos the sun started setting and I watched the low > pressure sodium vapour street lights start to strike red neon arcs in > their arc tubes as they warmed up and gradually shifted to yellow. Low > pressure sodium vapour lamps are more efficient than the high pressure > sodium lamps common in North America and also put out less glare as > they have much longer arc tubes, more like fluorescent. I guess they > aren't so common in the US because their light output is monochromatic > yellow with zero colour rendition unlike the HPS lamps which put out a > more amber light that has some colour rendition though still not much. > In the southern part of the Silicon Valley almost all the street lights > are LPS due to Lick Observatory being atop neary Mt. Hamilton. It is > easier for them to filter out one wavelength of yellow on their > telescope. It was a nice treat to see all these LPS street lights in > action. Around this time I pulled into the carpark of a chain > restaurant for a brief break and fired up my own discharge lamp, the > Light & Motion ARC metal halide light on the front of my Aero. Its beam > looked more blue then ever in contrast to the monochromatic yellow > street lights. > > There were a bunch of turns near the end and Tom waited in his car for > me at each turn to show me where to go. There was a potluck party and > showers available at Ken's house at the finish. The fast riders had > been in for a while but plenty of riders came in well after me so I was > probably some where in the middle. Tim Woudenberg came in 35 minutes > after me. I was feeling good but pretty tired from inadequate sleep. I > told Ken I'd stay out in the van and leave the next morning. He invited > me to stay in the house but I prefer staying in my own bed so I stayed > out in the van. The next morning I discovered my HRM transmitter > sitting on the edge of the road. It had been there over 24 hours and > must have fallen out of my seat bag when I was getting ready for the > ride the previous morning. > > If anyone in Northern California wants to do a double century that > isn't in the heat of the summer I highly recommend the Winter Solstice > Double. The rest stops are far apart but it is well supported and the > scenery once you get out of the suburban area is nice. Thanks to all > the volunteers who helped support this ride. > > Ride statistics: > 320.61 km (199.2178179 miles) > Average rolling speed 26.1 km/h (16.2177881 mph) > Maximum speed: 72.6 km/h (45.1115486 mph) > Total climbing: 2370 metres (7,775.5905512 feet) > Maximum altitude: 450 metres (1,476.3779528 feet) > Total time including stops: 13:57 > Rolling time (12:16:40) > > Here is the link to the page of photos taken by fixie rider Eric > Norris: > http://www.campyonly.com/mypages/wsdc_2005.html > > Here is the link to the page of photos taken by Tom Lawrence on the > WSDC: http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/ > > Here are the links to photos my Aero and I are in: > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15344-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15345-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15346-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15366-q1-480x360.html > > Here are links to photos of Tim Woudenberg and his Barcroft Dakota: > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15327-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15337-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15338-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15362-q1-480x360.html > > Here are links to photos of Ed Wesley captaining with Annie stoking: > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15354-q1-480x360.html > > http://daddylonglegs.bikeaholics.org/2005-TomLawrenceWSDC/html/T_15355-q1-480x360.html > > -------------------------------------------- > Zach Kaplan Cycles > Alameda, Northern California, North America > 510-522-BENT (2368) > zakaplan-at-earthlink-dot-net >
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 07:41:55
From: 98GTW
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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"Zach" <zakaplan@yahoo.co.uk > wrote in news:1108597438.029696.248620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > This writeup is a month late but I've been very busy and finally have > time to write this. .... > > Zach, Thanks for the reminder that there is still riding to be done. Nice write- up, and great scenery. -- Dave 98GTW inari77snospam@netacc.net (remove nospam to reply directly) Presto, Screamer
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Date: 16 Feb 2005 19:24:51
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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Zach wrote: > ...Despite wearing liner gloves with > outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed > numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come > and go but nothing else was too cold.... In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) than on a hard-shell. -- Tom Sherman - Earth
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Date: 16 Feb 2005 19:55:33
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... > Zach wrote: > > > ...Despite wearing liner gloves with > > outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed > > numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come > > and go but nothing else was too cold.... > > In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to > warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) than > on a hard-shell. > > -- > Tom Sherman - Earth I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of us use gloves instead
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Date: 16 Feb 2005 20:47:23
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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k Leuck wrote: > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... > >>Zach wrote: >> >> >>>...Despite wearing liner gloves with >>>outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed >>>numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come >>>and go but nothing else was too cold.... >> >>In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to >>warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) than >>on a hard-shell. >> >>-- >>Tom Sherman - Earth > > > I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of us use gloves > instead It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. -- Tom Sherman - Earth
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 22:50:19
From: Sputnick
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. -- Tom Sherman - Earth Where's Texas? Glen -- Sputnick
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 20:07:22
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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Sputnick wrote from down under: > It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. > > -- > Tom Sherman - Earth > > > > Where's Texas? Texas is an insignificant piece of land between the southeastern and southwestern portions of the United States of America. ;) -- Tom Sherman - Earth
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 00:10:42
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message news:37iem0F5d3nmfU1@individual.net... > k Leuck wrote: > > > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > > news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... > > > >>Zach wrote: > >> > >> > >>>...Despite wearing liner gloves with > >>>outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed > >>>numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come > >>>and go but nothing else was too cold.... > >> > >>In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to > >>warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) than > >>on a hard-shell. > >> > >>-- > >>Tom Sherman - Earth > > > > > > I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of us use gloves > > instead > > It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. > > -- > Tom Sherman - Earth That is just an ugly rumor, compared to my original home in Indiana this is a sauna during the winter
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 20:04:59
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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k Leuck wrote: > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > news:37iem0F5d3nmfU1@individual.net... > >>k Leuck wrote: >> >> >>>"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message >>>news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... >>> >>> >>>>Zach wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>...Despite wearing liner gloves with >>>>>outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed >>>>>numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come >>>>>and go but nothing else was too cold.... >>>> >>>>In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to >>>>warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) than >>>>on a hard-shell. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Tom Sherman - Earth >>> >>> >>>I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of us use > > gloves > >>>instead >> >>It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. >> >>-- >>Tom Sherman - Earth > > > That is just an ugly rumor, compared to my original home in Indiana this is > a sauna during the winter I actually was in the greater Fort Worth-Dallas area in 1975 when it snowed at Christmas. -- Tom Sherman - Earth
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 20:44:00
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message news:37l0ifF5dddg2U2@individual.net... > k Leuck wrote: > > > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > > news:37iem0F5d3nmfU1@individual.net... > > > >>k Leuck wrote: > >> > >> > >>>"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > >>>news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... > >>> > >>> > >>>>Zach wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>...Despite wearing liner gloves with > >>>>>outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed > >>>>>numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come > >>>>>and go but nothing else was too cold.... > >>>> > >>>>In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to > >>>>warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) than > >>>>on a hard-shell. > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>Tom Sherman - Earth > >>> > >>> > >>>I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of us use > > > > gloves > > > >>>instead > >> > >>It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. > >> > >>-- > >>Tom Sherman - Earth > > > > > > That is just an ugly rumor, compared to my original home in Indiana this is > > a sauna during the winter > > I actually was in the greater Fort Worth-Dallas area in 1975 when it > snowed at Christmas. > > -- > Tom Sherman - Earth Fort Worth doesn't count
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 15:32:31
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message news:FImdnSxi7JQ_qInfRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > news:37iem0F5d3nmfU1@individual.net... >> k Leuck wrote: >> >> > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message >> > news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... >> > >> >>Zach wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>...Despite wearing liner gloves with >> >>>outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers I developed >> >>>numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness would come >> >>>and go but nothing else was too cold.... >> >> >> >>In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the other to >> >>warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS) >> >>than >> >>on a hard-shell. >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Tom Sherman - Earth >> > >> > >> > I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of us use > gloves >> > instead >> >> It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. >> >> -- >> Tom Sherman - Earth > > That is just an ugly rumor, compared to my original home in Indiana this > is > a sauna during the winter I went to Culver, and can recall running to class with frozen sweat on my legs. Not comfy in winter at all on Lake Maxinkuckee. >
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Date: 17 Feb 2005 18:57:08
From: nget
Subject: Re: First double century of the year 15 January 2005
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k Leuck Wrote: > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > news:37iem0F5d3nmfU1@individual.net... > > k Leuck wrote: > > > > > "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message > > > news:37i9r9F5f03hmU1@individual.net... > > > > > >>Zach wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>...Despite wearing liner gloves with > > >>>outer gloves, plastic bags over wool socks and shoe covers > developed > > >>>numb fingers and toes on this stretch of road. The numbness woul > come > > >>>and go but nothing else was too cold.... > > >> > > >>In cold weather, I often steer with one hand and sit on the othe > to > > >>warm it up. This probably works better on a padded seat (e.g. RANS > than > > >>on a hard-shell. > > >> > > >>-- > > >>Tom Sherman - Earth > > > > > > > > > I have a hard-shell and you can still do it although some of u > use > gloves > > > instead > > > > It also gets cold once per decade in north Texas. > > > > -- > > Tom Sherman - Earth > > That is just an ugly rumor, compared to my original home in Indian > this is > a sauna during the winter These two guys Tom and k could go on for days talking about th weather.ARBR is the new home for those who are brain dead -- nget
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