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Date: 16 Nov 2005 09:00:33
From: Carl
Subject: Folding Anyone?
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I have become old enough that an Adult Tricycle looks attractive. I used to
ride a 2-wheeler with derailleur shifting, but now have an equilibrium
problem.
Am considering a Worksman Folding Port-A-Trike, 3-speed. After folding, will
fit in the back of my car, which is an advantage to me.
This is a request for comments about the Worksman Port-A-Trike in
particular, folding trikes in general, and adult trikes in general. I have
never ridden or even seen one.
Comments and advice appreciated.
Thanks,
Carl
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Date: 29 Nov 2005 19:29:14
From:
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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I guess you've figured out by now that you are not permitted to get old
on this group. Old is for folks who can't consider a bike at all.
Equilibrium issues? This might be your excuse to get the bike you
should have bought 20 years ago, a tadpole. Strength issues? Get
gears. Stamina issues? Coast a lot. Traffic issues? Get a real loud
horn. Fold to fit in a car? Get the right tr/bike and leave the car at
home. Garage space issues? Keep it in a covered trailer-- ground
level and ready to travel. Us FOG's often prefer something a bit more
upright than the young'uns consider fasionable. Venice Beach maybe?
S&B Recumbents. http://home.pacbell.net/recumbnt/page6.html But I'd
prefer a 63-speed ground hugger, myself. Worlwide, there must be 50
builders of tadpoles. Search carefully and get the very best you can.
Then stay in training so you can keep ahead of the grim reaper, a
confirmed pedestrian.
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Date: 30 Nov 2005 23:20:09
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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On 29 Nov 2005 19:29:14 -0800, dale@goldorb.com said in
<1133321354.633978.146050@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >:
>I guess you've figured out by now that you are not permitted to get old
>on this group. Old is for folks who can't consider a bike at all.
>Equilibrium issues? This might be your excuse to get the bike you
>should have bought 20 years ago, a tadpole. Strength issues? Get
>gears. Stamina issues? Coast a lot. Traffic issues? Get a real loud
>horn. Fold to fit in a car? Get the right tr/bike and leave the car at
>home. Garage space issues? Keep it in a covered trailer-- ground
>level and ready to travel. Us FOG's often prefer something a bit more
>upright than the young'uns consider fasionable. Venice Beach maybe?
>S&B Recumbents. http://home.pacbell.net/recumbnt/page6.html But I'd
>prefer a 63-speed ground hugger, myself. Worlwide, there must be 50
>builders of tadpoles. Search carefully and get the very best you can.
>Then stay in training so you can keep ahead of the grim reaper, a
>confirmed pedestrian.
<applause >
So true, too :-)
Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 19:55:00
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:3v0e2hF13hnctU1@individual.net...
> > Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> >> The Python Police wrote:
> >>>Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com> wrote:
> >>>>Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> >>>>>Tony Raven wrote:
> >>>>>>wvantwiller wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the
> >>>>>>>category of "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>"They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
> >>>>>weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound
> >>>>>coconut."
> >>>>
> >>>>It could be carried by an African swallow
> >>>
> >>>Get yer trousers on sunshine, you're nicked!
> >>
> >> I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
> >
> > The only reason this thread is still on its perch is because it's been
> > nailed to it!
> >
> > Pete.
>
> Groups pared to ARBR only.
>
> The Tony Raven -Tom Sherman dialogues are a prime example of what can happen
> to a newsgroup when mindless banter takes over. It can literally drive a
> newsgroup into nothing but drivel. I give you the Aussie bicycle group as an
> example of what I am talking about. Tony and Tom ought to take their show to
> email instead of subjecting this august and honorable group to their
> mindless banter.
>
> Please note that the Great Ed Dolan has never been guilty of mindless
> banter. My banter has mind connected to it and has always been substantial,
> not mere fluff like this stuff.
NONSENSE!
Rule No. 1 of Usenet. "The Holy Grail" is on-topic on all threads on
all newsgroups.
"The Holy Grail" is to movies what the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer
[TM] [1] is to recumbent bicycles.
[1] The most fun bicycle in the known universe.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 22:37:37
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133236500.744749.164010@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> The Tony Raven -Tom Sherman dialogues are a prime example of what can
>> happen
>> to a newsgroup when mindless banter takes over. It can literally drive a
>> newsgroup into nothing but drivel. I give you the Aussie bicycle group as
>> an
>> example of what I am talking about. Tony and Tom ought to take their show
>> to
>> email instead of subjecting this august and honorable group to their
>> mindless banter.
>>
>> Please note that the Great Ed Dolan has never been guilty of mindless
>> banter. My banter has mind connected to it and has always been
>> substantial,
>> not mere fluff like this stuff.
>
> NONSENSE!
>
> Rule No. 1 of Usenet. "The Holy Grail" is on-topic on all threads on
> all newsgroups.
[...]
The only Holy Grail I know about is the one associated with the opera by
Wagner, "Parsifal." This is one of the longest, most boring operas of all
time. In fact, it is so boring that it is usually only performed during the
Easter season to go along with all the other boring activities associated
with the Resurrection.
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 04:45:38
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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The Python Police wrote:
> Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com> wrote:
>
> > Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> >> Tony Raven wrote:
> >>> wvantwiller wrote:
> >>>> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the
> >>>> category of "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
> >>>>
> >>> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
> >>
> >> "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
> >> weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound
> >> coconut."
> >
> >
> > It could be carried by an African swallow
>
> Get yer trousers on sunshine, you're nicked!
I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 13:14:40
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> The Python Police wrote:
>>Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com> wrote:
>>>Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>>>>Tony Raven wrote:
>>>>>wvantwiller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the
>>>>>>category of "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>>>>
>>>>>"They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>>>>
>>>>"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
>>>>weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound
>>>>coconut."
>>>
>>>It could be carried by an African swallow
>>
>>Get yer trousers on sunshine, you're nicked!
>
> I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
The only reason this thread is still on its perch is because it's been
nailed to it!
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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Date: 29 Nov 2005 04:10:18
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk > wrote in message
news:3v0e2hF13hnctU1@individual.net...
> Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>> The Python Police wrote:
>>>Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com> wrote:
>>>>Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>>>>>Tony Raven wrote:
>>>>>>wvantwiller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the
>>>>>>>category of "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
>>>>>weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound
>>>>>coconut."
>>>>
>>>>It could be carried by an African swallow
>>>
>>>Get yer trousers on sunshine, you're nicked!
>>
>> I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
Quick! Name their weapons!
> The only reason this thread is still on its perch is because it's been
> nailed to it!
>
This thread is pining for the fjords.
(straining to get back on topic)
Which is a reminder that trikes are good on ice in the winter.
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Date: 29 Nov 2005 19:28:19
From: The Python Police
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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In the van, sunshine, you're nicked.
The Python Police
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Date: 29 Nov 2005 20:03:25
From: Tony Raven
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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The Python Police wrote:
> In the van, sunshine, you're nicked.
>
> The Python Police
I didn't join the police force just to wear the helmets you know. That
just happens to be one of the little perks. There are plenty of jobs
where I could have worn a helmet, but not such a nice helmet. This
helmet, I think, beats even some of the more elaborate helmets worn by
the Tsar's private army, the so-called Axi red warriors......
--
Tony
"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 20:37:28
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk > wrote in message
news:3v0e2hF13hnctU1@individual.net...
> Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>> The Python Police wrote:
>>>Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com> wrote:
>>>>Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>>>>>Tony Raven wrote:
>>>>>>wvantwiller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the
>>>>>>>category of "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
>>>>>weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound
>>>>>coconut."
>>>>
>>>>It could be carried by an African swallow
>>>
>>>Get yer trousers on sunshine, you're nicked!
>>
>> I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition!
>
> The only reason this thread is still on its perch is because it's been
> nailed to it!
>
> Pete.
Groups pared to ARBR only.
The Tony Raven -Tom Sherman dialogues are a prime example of what can happen
to a newsgroup when mindless banter takes over. It can literally drive a
newsgroup into nothing but drivel. I give you the Aussie bicycle group as an
example of what I am talking about. Tony and Tom ought to take their show to
email instead of subjecting this august and honorable group to their
mindless banter.
Please note that the Great Ed Dolan has never been guilty of mindless
banter. My banter has mind connected to it and has always been substantial,
not mere fluff like this stuff.
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 01:35:26
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Carl wrote:
> I have become old enough that an Adult Tricycle looks attractive. I used to
> ride a 2-wheeler with derailleur shifting, but now have an equilibrium
> problem.
>
> Am considering a Worksman Folding Port-A-Trike, 3-speed. After folding, will
> fit in the back of my car, which is an advantage to me.
>
> This is a request for comments about the Worksman Port-A-Trike in
> particular, folding trikes in general, and adult trikes in general. I have
> never ridden or even seen one.
If you can afford it:
<http://www.greenspeed.com.au/NewGSweb/web-content/australia/models/design/gt3desgn.html >
or
<http://www.greenspeed.com.au/NewGSweb/web-content/usa/modusa/gt3.html >
for USians.
Greenspeed is one of the "senior" trike manufacturers, and has
consistently produced high quality trikes. The $2,600 price is entirely
reasonable for a trike of this quality.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 20:33:37
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Carl wrote:
>
> SHEESH!
> wHAT happENED To my thREAd?
"And Now for Something Completely Different"
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
"john dear owns a tuscany reserve next door to the bay shore folks" -
G. Daniels
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 20:26:55
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Tony Raven wrote:
> Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> > Tony Raven wrote:
> >> wvantwiller wrote:
> >>> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
> >>> "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
> >>>
> >> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
> >
> > "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
> > weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
> >
>
> It could be carried by an African swallow
"But then of course a-- African swallows are non-migratory."
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 09:50:48
From: Tony Raven
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>
> "But then of course a-- African swallows are non-migratory."
>
It could be on a recumbent tour (to bring it neatly back on topic) ;-)
--
Tony
"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 15:04:16
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Tony Raven wrote:
> wvantwiller wrote:
> >
> > For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
> > "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
> >
>
> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
"Twisting may help if yawl can chew gum and walk." - G. Daniels
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 23:55:39
From: Tony Raven
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>> wvantwiller wrote:
>>> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
>>> "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>
>> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>
> "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
> weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
>
It could be carried by an African swallow
--
Tony
"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 11:22:16
From: The Python Police
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Tony Raven <junk@raven-family.com > wrote:
> Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>> Tony Raven wrote:
>>> wvantwiller wrote:
>>>> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the
>>>> category of "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>>
>>> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>>
>> "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
>> weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound
>> coconut."
>
>
> It could be carried by an African swallow
Get yer trousers on sunshine, you're nicked!
--
The Python Police
Scotland Yard
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 10:39:30
From: DD
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Tony Raven wrote:
> Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>
>> Tony Raven wrote:
>>
>>> wvantwiller wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
>>>> "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>>
>>> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>>
>>
>> "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
>> weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
>>
>
>
> It could be carried by an African swallow
>
I won't swallow that one. I blame the Coriolis Effect for everything.
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 20:43:52
From: Carl
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Tony Raven wrote:
> wvantwiller wrote:
> > For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
> > "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
"Twisting may help if yawl can chew gum and walk." - G. Daniels
"DD" <me@u.com > wrote in message
news:43891c66$0$10252$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Tony Raven wrote:
> Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
>
> Tony Raven wrote:
>
> wvantwiller wrote:
For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
>>> "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>
"It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
>> weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
>> It could be carried by an African swallow
>
>Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> Tony Raven wrote:
>> wvantwiller wrote:
>>> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
>>> "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>>>
>> "They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
>
> "It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of
> weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut."
It could be carried by an African swallow
Tony
"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham I won't swallow that one. I blame the Coriolis Effect for
everything.
SHEESH!
wHAT happENED To my thREAd?
I inquired about Worksman Folding Trikes!!!
Carl
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Date: 28 Nov 2005 05:55:17
From: DD
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Carl wrote:
>
> SHEESH!
> wHAT happENED To my thREAd?
> I inquired about Worksman Folding Trikes!!!
> Carl
>
In that case... have you also considered anything like the Di Blasi
folding trike (http://www.diblasi.it/ )?
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 15:42:10
From: nget
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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SHEESH!
wHAT happENED To my thREAd?
I inquired about Worksman Folding Trikes!!!
Carl
Carl, the trike you want information on is not a recumbent trike. Thi
is an "upright free zone" so you can't blame these people for talkin
about birds and coconuts.
Tadpole pilot,
--
nget
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Date: 19 Nov 2005 12:41:20
From: Steve W
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Folding trike at
http://www.diblasi.it/Folding_Vehicles.asp?Prd=Tricycles&Pag=Gruppo&Lng=En
SW
"Carl" <c@invalid.com > wrote in message
news:RP-dneI0gsM1yubeRVn-tQ@sedona.net...
> I have become old enough that an Adult Tricycle looks attractive. I used
to
> ride a 2-wheeler with derailleur shifting, but now have an equilibrium
> problem.
>
> Am considering a Worksman Folding Port-A-Trike, 3-speed. After folding,
will
> fit in the back of my car, which is an advantage to me.
>
> This is a request for comments about the Worksman Port-A-Trike in
> particular, folding trikes in general, and adult trikes in general. I have
> never ridden or even seen one.
>
> Comments and advice appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
>
>
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Date: 16 Nov 2005 12:35:40
From: George Cherry
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Carl" <c@invalid.com > wrote in message
news:RP-dneI0gsM1yubeRVn-tQ@sedona.net...
>I have become old enough that an Adult Tricycle looks attractive. I used to
>ride a 2-wheeler with derailleur shifting, but now have an equilibrium
>problem.
>
> Am considering a Worksman Folding Port-A-Trike, 3-speed. After folding,
> will fit in the back of my car, which is an advantage to me.
>
> This is a request for comments about the Worksman Port-A-Trike in
> particular, folding trikes in general, and adult trikes in general. I have
> never ridden or even seen one.
>
> Comments and advice appreciated.
I can relate well with your question. I hope
that you get some definitive answers. (I
just bought a Prius and I have a wife and
two medium size dogs. I'd hate to ditch
Patti: she picks up the dog poops!) : o )
Oops, I just took a peek at the Worksman
Folding Port-A-Trike, and I see I've confused
trike and recumbent bicycle. (C'mon, Geo,
"bi" and "tri" aren't that hard!) I want my feet
at about the level of my heart. Trikes don't
do that.
George
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Date: 19 Nov 2005 06:08:08
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
heart. Trikes don't do that.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
elevation as the feet? Would you share?
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 12:40:35
From: George Cherry
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:cjzff.69691$qk4.27360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
> heart. Trikes don't do that.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
The veins in my legs and feet are--ouch!-- "incompetent".
That's the medical diagnosis. The medical prescription
is to elevate my legs (ideally to the level of my heart).
When I must stand or sit, I must wear high-compression
support stockings. Walking's better than standing--
because the muscle action helps pump the bood from
my lower extremities back to my heart. A recumbent
bike appeared an ideal way for me to stay active and
mobile.
George
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 18:55:51
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu > wrote in
message news:lOmdnaAPQ_iHAxXeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>
> "Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:cjzff.69691$qk4.27360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
>> heart. Trikes don't do that.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
>> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
>
> The veins in my legs and feet are--ouch!-- "incompetent".
> That's the medical diagnosis. The medical prescription
> is to elevate my legs (ideally to the level of my heart).
> When I must stand or sit, I must wear high-compression
> support stockings. Walking's better than standing--
> because the muscle action helps pump the bood from
> my lower extremities back to my heart. A recumbent
> bike appeared an ideal way for me to stay active and
> mobile.
>
> George
Groups trimmed to ARBR only.
Our bodies break down for one reason or another as we age. I do not think
Nature intended that we humans live much past 30 years of age. By 40 we are
old, not to say ancient.
There is a resting position for the body and a working position for the
body. I will admit we are having so much fun riding our recumbents that we
don't think of it as work, but that is actually what we are doing. We are
working when we ride our recumbents.
Provided you are young and healthy, you want your legs below your hips, just
as you do when you are walking. Never forget we are designed for walking
above all else. That is our destiny as given to us by our evolution.
When I can no longer ride a bicycle, I will still want to walk. Walking is
basic, cycling is not.
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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Date: 19 Nov 2005 04:10:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
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> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
> heart. Trikes don't do that.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
Several million years of primate evolution has fashioned us. We are upright
bipedal creatures, not sloths which hang upside down by their tails from
trees. Our cardiovascular system (this includes the heart) is designed to
function with our legs below the heart. Elementary my dear Watson!
All recumbent bikes that have the legs much elevated above the hip are
insane. The only advantage of such a position is an aerodynamic one. It goes
against our evolution. I note that even Bacchetta is now coming out with a
recumbent bike that is lowering the BB to a sensible level (the Agio).
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 12:58:11
From: George Cherry
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
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> "Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
>> heart. Trikes don't do that.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
>> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
>
> Several million years of primate evolution has fashioned us. We are
> upright bipedal creatures, not sloths which hang upside down by their
> tails from trees. Our cardiovascular system (this includes the heart) is
> designed to function with our legs below the heart. Elementary my dear
> Watson!
In what position do you sleep at night?
Don't regress--be sure you sleep in an
upright position.
> All recumbent bikes that have the legs much elevated above the hip are
> insane.
They might be sane for folks with certain handicaps.
> The only advantage of such a position is an aerodynamic one.
There may be a circulatory advantage for a few.
> It goes against our evolution.
Yeah, so do airplanes. If human beings were
meant to fly, they would have evolved wings.
> I note that even Bacchetta is now coming out with a recumbent bike that is
> lowering the BB to a sensible level (the Agio).
I'll take a look.
George the humble
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Date: 27 Nov 2005 18:43:22
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu > wrote in
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> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
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>> "Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>>> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
>>> heart. Trikes don't do that.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
>>> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
>>
>> Several million years of primate evolution has fashioned us. We are
>> upright bipedal creatures, not sloths which hang upside down by their
>> tails from trees. Our cardiovascular system (this includes the heart) is
>> designed to function with our legs below the heart. Elementary my dear
>> Watson!
>
> In what position do you sleep at night?
> Don't regress--be sure you sleep in an
> upright position.
My legs are at the level of the heart, not above it. However, this is a
resting position. When you are cycling, that is a working position. We are
best postitoned for work with our legs below our hearts because of our
evolution as upright bipedal creatures.
[...]
>> It goes against our evolution.
>
> Yeah, so do airplanes. If human beings were
> meant to fly, they would have evolved wings.
Technology and inventions don't count when we are discussing human
evolution. As far as I know, there has been no further human evolution for
several hundred thousand years, in other words, not since we became Homo
sapiens.
>> I note that even Bacchetta is now coming out with a recumbent bike that
>> is lowering the BB to a sensible level (the Agio).
>
> I'll take a look.
George, these kind of bikes are greatly underrated because they do not offer
the ultimate in aerodynamics. But the positioning of the body on the bike is
ideal. The legs are slightly below the hips. This is an extremely powerful
pedaling position and also offers good control of the bike. I repeat what I
have previously said: all bikes with high BB's are insane. It goes against
our evolution as upright bipedal creatures.
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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Date: 19 Nov 2005 06:42:13
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
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> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
> heart. Trikes don't do that.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
Well, it's obvious isn't it? When you're in the womb your feet at level with
your heart. Why everything has to relate to that doesn't it?
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 12:44:25
From: George Cherry
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Tom Kunich" <tkunich@earthlink.net > wrote in message
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> "Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
>> heart. Trikes don't do that.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
>> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
>
> Well, it's obvious isn't it? When you're in the womb your feet at level
> with your heart. Why everything has to relate to that doesn't it?
You don't have to go back to being an embryo to
realize that elevating your legs is beneficial. You
sleep in that position every night so that sleep can
knit up your raveled "socks of care".
George
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 14:03:06
From: wvantwiller
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu > wrote in
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> "Tom Kunich" <tkunich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>> "Leo Lichtman" <l.lichtman@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:cjzff.69691$qk4.27360@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>> "George Cherry" wrote: (clip) I want my feet at about the level of my
>>> heart. Trikes don't do that.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> George, do you have a theory for why the heart should be at the same
>>> elevation as the feet? Would you share?
>>
>> Well, it's obvious isn't it? When you're in the womb your feet at level
>> with your heart. Why everything has to relate to that doesn't it?
>
> You don't have to go back to being an embryo to
> realize that elevating your legs is beneficial. You
> sleep in that position every night so that sleep can
> knit up your raveled "socks of care".
>
> George
>
>
For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
"Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
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Date: 26 Nov 2005 19:14:47
From: Tony Raven
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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wvantwiller wrote:
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> For the uninitiated, that sort of reasoning comes under the category of
> "Are You Suggesting Coconuts Migrate", doesn't it??
>
"They could have been carried by a swallow" ;-)
--
Tony
"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham
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Date: 18 Nov 2005 21:48:06
From: Lester L.
Subject: Holy Hi-jacked thread Batman. WAS Re: Folding Anyone? [np]
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:35:40 -0500, "George Cherry"
<GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu > wrote:
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Date: 19 Nov 2005 16:31:19
From: Michael Baugh
Subject: Re: Holy Hi-jacked thread Batman. WAS Re: Folding Anyone? [np]
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Might want to get the recent Consumer's Report, they
discussed EPA mileage ratings. Said some rather terrible
things about actual MPG's of the hybrids.
Lester L. wrote:
> > I can relate well with your question. I hope
> > that you get some definitive answers. (I
> > just bought a Prius and I have a wife and
> > two medium size dogs. I'd hate to ditch
> > Patti: she picks up the dog poops!) : o )
> >
> > Oops, I just took a peek at the Worksman
> > Folding Port-A-Trike, and I see I've confused
> > trike and recumbent bicycle. (C'mon, Geo,
> > "bi" and "tri" aren't that hard!) I want my feet
> > at about the level of my heart. Trikes don't
> > do that.
> >
> > George
> >
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Date: 16 Nov 2005 15:55:55
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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In article <b9ednXrDep5t8ObeRVn-tA@comcast.com >,
"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu > wrote:
> "Carl" <c@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:RP-dneI0gsM1yubeRVn-tQ@sedona.net...
> >I have become old enough that an Adult Tricycle looks attractive. I
> >used to ride a 2-wheeler with derailleur shifting, but now have an
> >equilibrium problem.
> >
> > Am considering a Worksman Folding Port-A-Trike, 3-speed. After
> > folding, will fit in the back of my car, which is an advantage to
> > me.
> >
> > This is a request for comments about the Worksman Port-A-Trike in
> > particular, folding trikes in general, and adult trikes in general.
> > I have never ridden or even seen one.
> >
> > Comments and advice appreciated.
>
> I can relate well with your question. I hope that you get some
> definitive answers. (I just bought a Prius and I have a wife and two
> medium size dogs. I'd hate to ditch Patti: she picks up the dog
> poops!) : o )
>
> Oops, I just took a peek at the Worksman Folding Port-A-Trike, and I
> see I've confused trike and recumbent bicycle. (C'mon, Geo, "bi" and
> "tri" aren't that hard!) I want my feet at about the level of my
> heart. Trikes don't do that.
Recumbent trikes do, and there are a number of options from relatively
reasonable to uber-pricey. They put the two wheels up front and one
wheel in the back (also known as "tadpole trike").
http://home.mindspring.com/~kb7mxu/
http://www.catrike.com/
http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/
http://www.greenspeed.com.au/
Among others, of course. There are recumbent trike makers all over the
world now.
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Date: 17 Nov 2005 21:10:53
From: Rich
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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Tim McNaa wrote:
> Recumbent trikes do, and there are a number of options from relatively
> reasonable to uber-pricey. They put the two wheels up front and one
> wheel in the back (also known as "tadpole trike").
>
> http://home.mindspring.com/~kb7mxu/
>
> http://www.catrike.com/
>
> http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/
>
> http://www.greenspeed.com.au/
I'd add http://www.wizwheelz.com/ to that list.
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Date: 18 Nov 2005 10:58:29
From: wafflycat
Subject: Re: Folding Anyone?
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"Rich" <richa_colorado@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> Tim McNaa wrote:
>
>> Recumbent trikes do, and there are a number of options from relatively
>> reasonable to uber-pricey. They put the two wheels up front and one
>> wheel in the back (also known as "tadpole trike").
>>
>> http://home.mindspring.com/~kb7mxu/
>>
>> http://www.catrike.com/
>>
>> http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/
>>
>> http://www.greenspeed.com.au/
>
> I'd add http://www.wizwheelz.com/ to that list.
Don't forget
http://www.ice.hpv.co.uk/
Cheers, helen s
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