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Date: 22 Dec 2006 07:40:36
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad

Are there two different versions of the "new" Bodylink seat pad from HP
Velo?

I ask 'cause the picture of the Bodylink seat pad on HP Velo's site for
their Scorpion trike is different from those pictured on other 'bents
of theirs. I have the latter one, and it shrank a bit during washing
(or machine-drying, more likely). It still fits over the seat itself,
but it's definitely smaller and I'm thinking about getting another set
of Bodylink seat pads, and would therefore get this "new" version
that's always featured on the Scorpion trike, with the, what do you
call it, "side seams"....

Compare <http://hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/scorpion/details_e.html >
with <http://hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/sm/gte/bodylinksitz_e.html >....





 
Date: 23 Dec 2006 07:45:29
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad

Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>
> I know Rolf Garthus, the owner of Hostel Shoppe, as well as anyone. He no
> doubt gets fed up with all the ignorant sort of inquires he gets on a daily
> basis.

You "know" Rolf? LOL...so what did you get him for Christmas?

Ignorance is not knowing your own stock. This is the *third* time I've
brought a discrepancy to their attention, one between their website and
what they tell me over the phone.

> You have to do your own research and solve your own problems. All I ever
> expect of a bike shop is that they sell me a bike - period! Anything beyond
> that is my responsibility. Bikes are not rocket science. There is no reason
> why you can't solve your own freaking problems. For God's sakes, do not
> bother a bike shop with your niggling problems.

My brand new $3.5K bike should not have niggling problems. They're
just a business like any other. Can't wait for Walt to start
selling 'bents and drive these losers out of business, like all the
other pain-in-the-ass mom-and-pop-type stores that get lazy 'cause
there's no competition.

> Solve them yourselves. That
> is what your brain is for.

Hey, I thought they were recumbent specialists. I should have known
they were just putting on the ol' Midwestern country boy act.

I'm getting ActionBents next time. Fuck it, just do it myself --
that's what I wind up doing anyway!

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  
Date: 24 Dec 2006 19:53:03
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166888729.147925.247290@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>
>> I know Rolf Garthus, the owner of Hostel Shoppe, as well as anyone. He no
>> doubt gets fed up with all the ignorant sort of inquires he gets on a
>> daily
>> basis.
>
> You "know" Rolf? LOL...so what did you get him for Christmas?

I NEVER get anyone anything for Xmas. In fact, if you even get a card from
me, you have been honored!

> Ignorance is not knowing your own stock. This is the *third* time I've
> brought a discrepancy to their attention, one between their website and
> what they tell me over the phone.
>
>> You have to do your own research and solve your own problems. All I ever
>> expect of a bike shop is that they sell me a bike - period! Anything
>> beyond
>> that is my responsibility. Bikes are not rocket science. There is no
>> reason
>> why you can't solve your own freaking problems. For God's sakes, do not
>> bother a bike shop with your niggling problems.
>
> My brand new $3.5K bike should not have niggling problems. They're
> just a business like any other. Can't wait for Walt to start
> selling 'bents and drive these losers out of business, like all the
> other pain-in-the-ass mom-and-pop-type stores that get lazy 'cause
> there's no competition.
>
>> Solve them yourselves. That
>> is what your brain is for.
>
> Hey, I thought they were recumbent specialists. I should have known
> they were just putting on the ol' Midwestern country boy act.

Yes, 'Minnesota Nice' wears awfully thin too after a short while!

> I'm getting ActionBents next time. Fuck it, just do it myself --
> that's what I wind up doing anyway!

Yes, it is best to just do it yourself! I had learned this by the time I
was 15 years old.

But still I understand your frustration when you pay 3.5K for a bike. You
expect it to be perfect - but nothing in life ever is. In fact, most
everything we buy, no matter how expensive, turns out to be junk. That is
why I always buy cheap and if it does not work I just junk it unless there
is an easy fix I can do myself.

I NEVER take anything to a repair shop anymore since all they want to do is
to rob you of your hard earned money. Hells Bells, most of these repair
shops want $50. up front before they even will look at what's wrong, let
alone fix it.

My father, back in the 50's shortly before he died, bought a used Jaguar
sports car, something he had always wanted all of his life. The damn thing
was ALWAYS in the repair shop getting some adjustment or another. I don't
think he ever drove the damn thing for more than a few weeks. Let this be an
object lesson to us all. Never want anything fine or expensive because it is
all just hoopla anyway. Thus spake Zarathustra.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 22 Dec 2006 21:19:23
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad

Prisoner at War wrote:
> Are there two different versions of the "new" Bodylink seat pad from HP
> Velo?
>
> I ask 'cause the picture of the Bodylink seat pad on HP Velo's site for
> their Scorpion trike is different from those pictured on other 'bents
> of theirs. I have the latter one, and it shrank a bit during washing
> (or machine-drying, more likely). It still fits over the seat itself,
> but it's definitely smaller and I'm thinking about getting another set
> of Bodylink seat pads, and would therefore get this "new" version
> that's always featured on the Scorpion trike, with the, what do you
> call it, "side seams"....
>
> Compare <http://hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/scorpion/details_e.html>
> with <http://hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/sm/gte/bodylinksitz_e.html>....


Well, HP Velo tells me that there is indeed an updated version of the
Airflow Cushion!

Of course, they said to contact Hostel Shoppe...who had earlier told me
they knew nothing about it...anyone get the feeling that ye olde Hostel
Shoppe is kinda flaky when it comes to 'bents?

Nice folks, to be sure, but I'm not convinced they know what they're
doing all the time...from my badly adjusted SBW telescoping boom to the
defective rear air shock and a host of little niggling things here and
there, I've come to the conclusion that the Hostel Shoppe is merely a
friendlier Mid-Western version of my LBS -- with the emphasis on
"BS"....



  
Date: 22 Dec 2006 23:40:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad

"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166851163.311555.215270@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>
> Prisoner at War wrote:
>> Are there two different versions of the "new" Bodylink seat pad from HP
>> Velo?
>>
>> I ask 'cause the picture of the Bodylink seat pad on HP Velo's site for
>> their Scorpion trike is different from those pictured on other 'bents
>> of theirs. I have the latter one, and it shrank a bit during washing
>> (or machine-drying, more likely). It still fits over the seat itself,
>> but it's definitely smaller and I'm thinking about getting another set
>> of Bodylink seat pads, and would therefore get this "new" version
>> that's always featured on the Scorpion trike, with the, what do you
>> call it, "side seams"....
>>
>> Compare <http://hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/scorpion/details_e.html>
>> with <http://hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/sm/gte/bodylinksitz_e.html>....
>
>
> Well, HP Velo tells me that there is indeed an updated version of the
> Airflow Cushion!
>
> Of course, they said to contact Hostel Shoppe...who had earlier told me
> they knew nothing about it...anyone get the feeling that ye olde Hostel
> Shoppe is kinda flaky when it comes to 'bents?
>
> Nice folks, to be sure, but I'm not convinced they know what they're
> doing all the time...from my badly adjusted SBW telescoping boom to the
> defective rear air shock and a host of little niggling things here and
> there, I've come to the conclusion that the Hostel Shoppe is merely a
> friendlier Mid-Western version of my LBS -- with the emphasis on
> "BS"....

I know Rolf Garthus, the owner of Hostel Shoppe, as well as anyone. He no
doubt gets fed up with all the ignorant sort of inquires he gets on a daily
basis.

You have to do your own research and solve your own problems. All I ever
expect of a bike shop is that they sell me a bike - period! Anything beyond
that is my responsibility. Bikes are not rocket science. There is no reason
why you can't solve your own freaking problems. For God's sakes, do not
bother a bike shop with your niggling problems. Solve them yourselves. That
is what your brain is for.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





   
Date: 23 Dec 2006 10:47:07
From: Steve knight
Subject: Re: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad
There is no reason
>why you can't solve your own freaking problems. For God's sakes, do not
>bother a bike shop with your niggling problems. Solve them yourselves. That
>is what your brain is for.
>
then why have you not killed yourself yet??? take care of your
problems and eliminate them permanently.


    
Date: 24 Dec 2006 19:22:38
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: HP Velo's Bodylink Seat Pad

"Steve knight" <stev19910@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:5buqo29r2uuug05uf2m4crmt96bkr0p87j@4ax.com...
> There is no reason
>>why you can't solve your own freaking problems. For God's sakes, do not
>>bother a bike shop with your niggling problems. Solve them yourselves.
>>That
>>is what your brain is for.
>>
> then why have you not killed yourself yet??? take care of your
> problems and eliminate them permanently.

This is not a bad insult, but it needs more work and some refinement. I urge
Steve Knight to spend more time working on his insults. After all, we
ARBR'ers are used to the very best.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota