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Date: 18 Apr 2005 07:42:36
From: Al Kubeluis
Subject: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Hi arbr'ers,
I haven't been following arbr for months but decided to check in a
couple of days ago. Very few posts. What's happened?
Al K
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 17:03:27
From:
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Hi,
Ed Dolan is back and, since he mentioned my name several times, I guess
I should be too, if for only a short duration. I was never accused of
being a troll but there is no disagreement that Ed Gin was and still
is. He just happens to be "trolling" elsewhere for the moment. Here
is my take on what is being rehashed here from a historical
perspective...
The bane of an unmoderated forum, the egocentric troll Ed Gin has
proven himself to be a malignant, festering pestilence that
periodically plagues this newsgroup like a pervasive, parasitic
infestation. The longer he lingers and the more posts he makes, the
more he confirms his prima facie role as the resident, quintessential
troll here at ARBR. The oratory of Ed Gin, is telling. Language is an
instant indicator of class and education and Ed's assault of the
English language ... his battered gram, mangled prose,
prevarications and obscenities speak volumes about the shortcomings of
a man who expects to be respected and demands to be revered. I am
reasonably certain that the readership has long been glutted with Ed
Gin's Johnny NoCom nonsense and the ensuing flame wars that emerged
involving Ed Gin and his supportive menagerie of sock puppets that
spewed an unremitting discharge of gibberish, self-serving juvenile
nonsense and tasteless vulgarity.
Some tradek characteristics by which to identify the troll ... Ed
Gin
- Unrestrained ego run amuck
- Egregious character assassination based on an assortment of
fabricated allegations
- Profuse use of tasteless profanity
- Malicious prevarication portrayed as fact without a shred of
substantiating evidence
- Deliberate misinterpretation of an adversary's comments in order to
avoid having to make a direct response
- Accusations toward a nemesis that the troll is demonstrably guilty of
- Irrelevant and illogical cyclical argumentation
- Disrespectful mockery of an antagonist's given name
- A plethora of posts exhibiting a look at me ... aren't I wonderful,
flavor of immaturity and insecurity
- Posting of nonsensical, off-topic gibberish spawned by an infertile
imagination
- Cloaked behind a proxy email server, posts anonymously and
impersonates an adversary's email address
- Cowardly employment of a menagerie of sock puppets in support of an
adolescent agenda to garner attention
For those of you who are have had more than enough of Ed Gin's crap,
should he begin anew, I recommend that you email abuse@newsfeeds.com
and include examples of the specific acceptable use policies (listed
below) that Ed Gin persistently violates. It is of utmost importance
that you include the entire email header. Click "show options" and
then "Show original" to view the entire header with the proxy
identification information for this pathetic, contemptible troll. The
rest is elementary ... highlight, cut and paste.
TERMS OF SERVICE
Newsfeeds.com has a zero-tolerance policy for the following activities,
and performing any of them will cause permanent suspension of your
posting ability. These activities include, but are not limited to:
Flooding: Attempting to take over a newsgroup by flooding it with
your posts.
Trolling: Harassing or annoying other newsgroup users repeatedly.
Posting Off-Topic: Posting something that does not belong in that
newsgroup, as indicated by its charter or FAQ article.
Harassment/Cyberstalking: Threatening or provoking confrontation with
another party, causing fear for one's personal safety. Posting
anyone's
personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, social security
numbers, etc. without that person's prior consent also falls under this
category.
Forgery or impersonation: Adding, removing or modifying identifying
network header information in an effort to deceive or mislead is
prohibited. Attempting to impersonate any person by using forged
headers or other identifying information is prohibited. Falsifying
email information for the sole purpose of attributing a post to someone
else very likely qualifies as a serious abuse of service that would
result in account termination.
Posting ability is a privilege, not a right. Your posting access may be
suspended at any time without notice at the discretion of our abuse
department. If I use these services in violation of this agreement, I
understand I may be in violation of local, federal and or civil laws. I
agree to be responsible for all legal fees and loss of any income that
I owe to the providers, owners, Corporate Officers, and/or creators of
this site as a result of my activities. I understand that my membership
will be canceled without notice or refund in such situations.
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Date: 26 Apr 2005 04:44:53
From: Joshua Goldberg
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Oh Pleeeez
The 2 Edwards have left the building and a post like this will just give
them a reason to
return to counter your statements and the bitch slapping will begin all over
again. I "on purpose" kicked off a Flame War on Yahoo and 3 days later ended
it...Hell everyone loves a good Flame War now and then....but ya'll Monkey
Island folk are making a career out of it. Really simple stuff here, you
call everyone a horses ass and you sit back for 3 days and watch everyone
blow a fuse and then you end it, kiss and make up and move on. You DON'T
start a Flame War and let it run out of control till Dodge has burned to the
ground and THEN move on. Ya'll try to out intellectualize one another and
for men who claim to be so bloody intelligent, you cannot even pull off a
simple Flame War without screwing that up.
It will take some time for ARBR to recover and waltzing back in to get in
one last boot to the crotch will just make that recovery slower.
It is over..live with it, let the Group heal before returning and further
embarrassing your species.
And we now return to our regularly scheduled program
Joshua (Head Lemming)
<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1114473807.616646.65700@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Ed Dolan is back and, since he mentioned my name several times, I guess
> I should be too, if for only a short duration. I was never accused of
> being a troll but there is no disagreement that Ed Gin was and still
> is. He just happens to be "trolling" elsewhere for the moment. Here
> is my take on what is being rehashed here from a historical
> perspective...
>
> The bane of an unmoderated forum, the egocentric troll Ed Gin has
> proven himself to be a malignant, festering pestilence that
> periodically plagues this newsgroup like a pervasive, parasitic
> infestation. The longer he lingers and the more posts he makes, the
> more he confirms his prima facie role as the resident, quintessential
> troll here at ARBR. The oratory of Ed Gin, is telling. Language is an
> instant indicator of class and education and Ed's assault of the
> English language ... his battered gram, mangled prose,
> prevarications and obscenities speak volumes about the shortcomings of
> a man who expects to be respected and demands to be revered. I am
> reasonably certain that the readership has long been glutted with Ed
> Gin's Johnny NoCom nonsense and the ensuing flame wars that emerged
> involving Ed Gin and his supportive menagerie of sock puppets that
> spewed an unremitting discharge of gibberish, self-serving juvenile
> nonsense and tasteless vulgarity.
>
>
> Some tradek characteristics by which to identify the troll ... Ed
> Gin
>
> - Unrestrained ego run amuck
>
> - Egregious character assassination based on an assortment of
> fabricated allegations
>
> - Profuse use of tasteless profanity
>
> - Malicious prevarication portrayed as fact without a shred of
> substantiating evidence
>
> - Deliberate misinterpretation of an adversary's comments in order to
> avoid having to make a direct response
>
> - Accusations toward a nemesis that the troll is demonstrably guilty of
>
> - Irrelevant and illogical cyclical argumentation
>
> - Disrespectful mockery of an antagonist's given name
>
> - A plethora of posts exhibiting a look at me ... aren't I wonderful,
> flavor of immaturity and insecurity
>
> - Posting of nonsensical, off-topic gibberish spawned by an infertile
> imagination
>
> - Cloaked behind a proxy email server, posts anonymously and
> impersonates an adversary's email address
>
> - Cowardly employment of a menagerie of sock puppets in support of an
> adolescent agenda to garner attention
>
>
> For those of you who are have had more than enough of Ed Gin's crap,
> should he begin anew, I recommend that you email abuse@newsfeeds.com
> and include examples of the specific acceptable use policies (listed
> below) that Ed Gin persistently violates. It is of utmost importance
> that you include the entire email header. Click "show options" and
> then "Show original" to view the entire header with the proxy
> identification information for this pathetic, contemptible troll. The
> rest is elementary ... highlight, cut and paste.
>
>
> TERMS OF SERVICE
>
> Newsfeeds.com has a zero-tolerance policy for the following activities,
> and performing any of them will cause permanent suspension of your
> posting ability. These activities include, but are not limited to:
>
> Flooding: Attempting to take over a newsgroup by flooding it with
> your posts.
>
> Trolling: Harassing or annoying other newsgroup users repeatedly.
>
> Posting Off-Topic: Posting something that does not belong in that
> newsgroup, as indicated by its charter or FAQ article.
>
> Harassment/Cyberstalking: Threatening or provoking confrontation with
> another party, causing fear for one's personal safety. Posting
> anyone's
> personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, social security
> numbers, etc. without that person's prior consent also falls under this
> category.
>
> Forgery or impersonation: Adding, removing or modifying identifying
> network header information in an effort to deceive or mislead is
> prohibited. Attempting to impersonate any person by using forged
> headers or other identifying information is prohibited. Falsifying
> email information for the sole purpose of attributing a post to someone
> else very likely qualifies as a serious abuse of service that would
> result in account termination.
>
> Posting ability is a privilege, not a right. Your posting access may be
> suspended at any time without notice at the discretion of our abuse
> department. If I use these services in violation of this agreement, I
> understand I may be in violation of local, federal and or civil laws. I
> agree to be responsible for all legal fees and loss of any income that
> I owe to the providers, owners, Corporate Officers, and/or creators of
> this site as a result of my activities. I understand that my membership
> will be canceled without notice or refund in such situations.
>
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Date: 27 Apr 2005 01:15:20
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Joshua Goldberg Wrote:
> Oh Pleeeez
> The 2 Edwards have left the building and a post like this will jus
> give
> them a reason to
> return to counter your statements and the bitch slapping will begin al
> over
> again. I "on purpose" kicked off a Flame War on Yahoo and 3 days late
> ended
> it...Hell everyone loves a good Flame War now and then....but ya'l
> Monkey
> Island folk are making a career out of it. Really simple stuff here
> you
> call everyone a horses ass and you sit back for 3 days and watc
> everyone
> blow a fuse and then you end it, kiss and make up and move on. Yo
> DON'T
> start a Flame War and let it run out of control till Dodge has burne
> to the
> ground and THEN move on. Ya'll try to out intellectualize one anothe
> and
> for men who claim to be so bloody intelligent, you cannot even pull of
> a
> simple Flame War without screwing that up.
>
> It will take some time for ARBR to recover and waltzing back in to ge
> in
> one last boot to the crotch will just make that recovery slower.
>
> It is over..live with it, let the Group heal before returning an
> further
> embarrassing your species.
>
> And we now return to our regularly scheduled program
>
> Joshua (Head Lemming)
>
> Don't you think that what took place here was more than just a simpl
> flame war?You got most of this right Joshua but those who pulled thi
> scam off were hitting below the belt.I happen to know that they eve
> cross over to the dark side from time to time.
> What is really troublesome to me is that if you move to my side of th
> continent I could be looking at higher prices for pasteries.It's al
> about supply and demand.
> If I never see or touch a monkey again I will be much better off.
> would like to add that there are some of them that don't stink to bad
--
nget
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Date: 26 Apr 2005 20:51:35
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"nget" <nget.1o3qon@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.1o3qon@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
[...]
>> Don't you think that what took place here was more than just a simple
>> flame war?You got most of this right Joshua but those who pulled this
>> scam off were hitting below the belt.I happen to know that they even
>> cross over to the dark side from time to time. ...
It was more like the Rape of ARBR with the victims not even knowing they are
being screwed. Flame wars are mostly just fun and games. We all know them
when we see them, but Gin and his crowd are not into flame wars - they are
into criminal behavior pure and simple. But Jim McNaa in his bill of
particulars has provided us with the solution. Let us hope that next time
some of you will have the moxie to object to being raped instead of just
standing there like dumb oxen and letting it happen.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 27 Apr 2005 02:23:54
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Gin/Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:bYydnQSbk8azbfPfRVn-gg@prairiewave.com...
>
> "nget" <nget.1o3qon@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> news:nget.1o3qon@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
> [...]
> >> Don't you think that what took place here was more than just a simple
> >> flame war?You got most of this right Joshua but those who pulled this
> >> scam off were hitting below the belt.I happen to know that they even
> >> cross over to the dark side from time to time. ...
>
> It was more like the Rape of ARBR with the victims not even knowing they
are
> being screwed. Flame wars are mostly just fun and games. We all know them
> when we see them, but Gin and his crowd are not into flame wars - they are
> into criminal behavior pure and simple. But Jim McNaa in his bill of
> particulars has provided us with the solution. Let us hope that next time
> some of you will have the moxie to object to being raped instead of just
> standing there like dumb oxen and letting it happen.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
Poor Ed, it takes you 20 messages saying you are leaving, 20 messages as you
leave and 20 messages coming back explaining again why you left. And I hate
to ruin your uncanny Perry Mason logic but it's not criminal to make fun of
someone on a newsgroup as they did you, it was as entertaining watching you
squirm then as it is now
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Date: 27 Apr 2005 03:44:12
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:9NydnUeVpqaco_LfRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Gin/Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:bYydnQSbk8azbfPfRVn-gg@prairiewave.com...
Here is Leuck is altering a header above, ever the k of a scoundrel! That
is what Gin does all the time.
>>
>> "nget" <nget.1o3qon@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
>> news:nget.1o3qon@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>> [...]
>> >> Don't you think that what took place here was more than just a simple
>> >> flame war?You got most of this right Joshua but those who pulled this
>> >> scam off were hitting below the belt.I happen to know that they even
>> >> cross over to the dark side from time to time. ...
>>
>> It was more like the Rape of ARBR with the victims not even knowing they
> are
>> being screwed. Flame wars are mostly just fun and games. We all know them
>> when we see them, but Gin and his crowd are not into flame wars - they
>> are
>> into criminal behavior pure and simple. But Jim McNaa in his bill of
>> particulars has provided us with the solution. Let us hope that next time
>> some of you will have the moxie to object to being raped instead of just
>> standing there like dumb oxen and letting it happen.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Poor Ed, it takes you 20 messages saying you are leaving, 20 messages as
> you
> leave and 20 messages coming back explaining again why you left. And I
> hate
> to ruin your uncanny Perry Mason logic but it's not criminal to make fun
> of
> someone on a newsgroup as they did you, it was as entertaining watching
> you
> squirm then as it is now
I am only on this one thread and here I will stay. I have no interest in any
other current threads on ARBR. Do you?
There was no "they." Maybe you could educate yourself on the subject of sock
puppets. We were always dealing with only one miscreant and his name was Gin
(what a stupid name). Jim has already explained in great detail what Gin was
doing. He was violating every rule of posting to a newsgroup, and some were
quite serious violations too. But apparently nothing can ever penetrate your
thick skull. I am the one who is into fun and games but I always observe
every rule of proper posting (except briefly when I get carried away by scum
posters like Gin).
If you know so much about computers and posting, maybe you could look up one
of Gin's old posts (try the name Fred) and tell us who his ISP is and who we
are to complain to about him. I mean give us a specific address. In other
words, make yourself useful.
Poor Leuck. All it would take to bring him on board is for Gin to forge his
name to a scurrilous post. But like all dummies, until it happens to you
personally, you are oblivious to it.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 27 Apr 2005 21:10:30
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Gin/Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:7-ydnSuf4ut-zfLfRVn-sw@prairiewave.com...
>
> There was no "they." Maybe you could educate yourself on the subject of
sock
> puppets. We were always dealing with only one miscreant and his name was
Gin
> (what a stupid name). Jim has already explained in great detail what Gin
was
> doing. He was violating every rule of posting to a newsgroup, and some
were
> quite serious violations too. But apparently nothing can ever penetrate
your
> thick skull. I am the one who is into fun and games but I always observe
> every rule of proper posting (except briefly when I get carried away by
scum
> posters like Gin).
Maybe you could educate yourself, nobody knows how many/few people were
posting, maybe they were the same person and maybe not, I personally could
have cared less
> If you know so much about computers and posting, maybe you could look up
one
> of Gin's old posts (try the name Fred) and tell us who his ISP is and who
we
> are to complain to about him. I mean give us a specific address. In other
> words, make yourself useful.
I could care less what your ISP and address is much less his, it doesn't
interest me
> Poor Leuck. All it would take to bring him on board is for Gin to forge
his
> name to a scurrilous post. But like all dummies, until it happens to you
> personally, you are oblivious to it.
>
> Ed Gin/Dolan the Great - Minnesota
And unlike you I know what the "Ignore" function does, I suggest such an
educated person such as yourself learn what it does, feel free to spend
another 20 messages whining and crying about that evil bad ole Ed Gin
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 01:54:56
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:aY6dnRUTlOmW2-3fRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:7-ydnSuf4ut-zfLfRVn-sw@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> There was no "they." Maybe you could educate yourself on the subject of
> sock
>> puppets. We were always dealing with only one miscreant and his name was
> Gin
>> (what a stupid name). Jim has already explained in great detail what Gin
> was
>> doing. He was violating every rule of posting to a newsgroup, and some
> were
>> quite serious violations too. But apparently nothing can ever penetrate
> your
>> thick skull. I am the one who is into fun and games but I always observe
>> every rule of proper posting (except briefly when I get carried away by
> scum
>> posters like Gin).
>
> Maybe you could educate yourself, nobody knows how many/few people were
> posting, maybe they were the same person and maybe not, I personally could
> have cared less
Jim McNaa knows everything there is to know about Gin and has told us all
what we need to know about him, but if you do not care, then you do not
care. Ignorance is bliss apparently.
>> If you know so much about computers and posting, maybe you could look up
> one
>> of Gin's old posts (try the name Fred) and tell us who his ISP is and who
> we
>> are to complain to about him. I mean give us a specific address. In other
>> words, make yourself useful.
>
> I could care less what your ISP and address is much less his, it doesn't
> interest me
I am challenging you to find out what Gin's ISP address is if you think you
are so computer literate. As far as I can tell, unlike you and me who are
open and above board, he hides behind proxies. Look up "Fred" and see what
you can make of it.
>> Poor Leuck. All it would take to bring him on board is for Gin to forge
> his
>> name to a scurrilous post. But like all dummies, until it happens to you
>> personally, you are oblivious to it.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> And unlike you I know what the "Ignore" function does, I suggest such an
> educated person such as yourself learn what it does, feel free to spend
> another 20 messages whining and crying about that evil bad ole Ed Gin
The world is full of characters like Gin and I do not waste my time on them.
But the others on the group are not like him. They are mostly just dumb and
ignorant and do not know any better. They "ignore" like you do to the
detriment of the group. When Gin attacks you, I will chip in in your
defense - which is more than you ever did for me, or anyone else for that
matter. Why belong to a group in the first place if you do not feel some
obligation and loyalty to the group. No one cares about your two cents worth
on anything, let alone recumbents. Try to be a person for a change instead
of "I could care less" sort of non-person.
By the way, I ignore 95% of the messages on ARBR because they do not
interest me and I also ignore certain posters for the same reason. But those
messages and posters that do interest me get my full attention, as you
should well know by now.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 21:15:08
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:d9udnW5KYoBVFe3fRVn-vA@prairiewave.com...
>
> I am challenging you to find out what Gin's ISP address is if you think
you
> are so computer literate. As far as I can tell, unlike you and me who are
> open and above board, he hides behind proxies. Look up "Fred" and see what
> you can make of it.
fred n. 1) a person who spends a lot of money on his bike and clothing, but
still can't ride. "What a fred -- too much Lycra and titanium and not enough
skill." Synonym for poser. Occasionally called a "barney". 2) (from road
riding) a person who has a mishmash of old gear, does't care at all about
technology or fashion, didn't race or follow racing, etc. Often identified
by chainring ks on white calf socks. Used by "serious" roadies to
disparage utility cyclists and touring riders, especially after these
totally unfashionable "freds" drop the "serious" roadies on hills because
the "serious" guys were really posers. According to popular myth, "Fred" was
a well-known grumpy old touring rider, who really was named Fred.
Fred sounds a lot like you Ed...wait I forgot you don't have a recumbent or
ride
> The world is full of characters like Gin and I do not waste my time on
them.
Sure you do, you haven't stopped talking about him/them
> But the others on the group are not like him. They are mostly just dumb
and
> ignorant and do not know any better. They "ignore" like you do to the
> detriment of the group. When Gin attacks you, I will chip in in your
> defense - which is more than you ever did for me, or anyone else for that
> matter.
Aww nobody came to poor Ed Gin..er Ed Dolan's defense, gosh can't imagine
why
> Why belong to a group in the first place if you do not feel some
> obligation and loyalty to the group. No one cares about your two cents
worth
> on anything, let alone recumbents. Try to be a person for a change instead
> of "I could care less" sort of non-person.
Then leave already, nobody wants you here, go back to your supposed dozen or
so recumbents laying around your house
> By the way, I ignore 95% of the messages on ARBR because they do not
> interest me and I also ignore certain posters for the same reason. But
those
> messages and posters that do interest me get my full attention, as you
> should well know by now.
Sure Ed sure
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Date: 28 Apr 2005 22:29:44
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:pJCdnR7sTMa7BOzfRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:d9udnW5KYoBVFe3fRVn-vA@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> I am challenging you to find out what Gin's ISP address is if you think
> you
>> are so computer literate. As far as I can tell, unlike you and me who are
>> open and above board, he hides behind proxies. Look up "Fred" and see
>> what
>> you can make of it.
>
> fred n. 1) a person who spends a lot of money on his bike and clothing,
> but
> still can't ride. "What a fred -- too much Lycra and titanium and not
> enough
> skill." Synonym for poser. Occasionally called a "barney". 2) (from road
> riding) a person who has a mishmash of old gear, does't care at all about
> technology or fashion, didn't race or follow racing, etc. Often identified
> by chainring ks on white calf socks. Used by "serious" roadies to
> disparage utility cyclists and touring riders, especially after these
> totally unfashionable "freds" drop the "serious" roadies on hills because
> the "serious" guys were really posers. According to popular myth, "Fred"
> was
> a well-known grumpy old touring rider, who really was named Fred.
>
> Fred sounds a lot like you Ed...wait I forgot you don't have a recumbent
> or
> ride
Can't get beyond the proxy - can you.
>> The world is full of characters like Gin and I do not waste my time on
> them.
>
> Sure you do, you haven't stopped talking about him/them
There is no them, just him. Note that I am talking ABOUT him, not TO him.
And I am only talking about him in relationship to this group. The group is
my focus, not him. Also, please note that in this thread I am talking TO
you, not ABOUT you. That is because I do not believe I am wasting my time
with you.
>> But the others on the group are not like him. They are mostly just dumb
> and
>> ignorant and do not know any better. They "ignore" like you do to the
>> detriment of the group. When Gin attacks you, I will chip in in your
>> defense - which is more than you ever did for me, or anyone else for that
>> matter.
>
> Aww nobody came to poor Ed Gin..er Ed Dolan's defense, gosh can't imagine
> why
Never mind me, you did not come to the defense of the group, as if you were
not part of it even though you have been posting here like forever. But
maybe you are just slumming here like so many others. But why stay so long
if that is the case?
>> Why belong to a group in the first place if you do not feel some
>> obligation and loyalty to the group. No one cares about your two cents
> worth
>> on anything, let alone recumbents. Try to be a person for a change
>> instead
>> of "I could care less" sort of non-person.
>
> Then leave already, nobody wants you here, go back to your supposed dozen
> or
> so recumbents laying around your house
Can't be a person, can you? Just a sorry caricature of a person.
>> By the way, I ignore 95% of the messages on ARBR because they do not
>> interest me and I also ignore certain posters for the same reason. But
> those
>> messages and posters that do interest me get my full attention, as you
>> should well know by now.
>
> Sure Ed sure
You bet Leuck! You are NOT one of the few posters here on ARBR who interest
me, but rather with you it is always the subject, trivial though it may be.
You are not on the abysmal low level of Slugger, but you are far from the
rarefied heights of Ed Dolan the Great!
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 29 Apr 2005 00:25:09
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:_7mdnX-sUMuvN-zfRVn-3g@prairiewave.com...
> > Fred sounds a lot like you Ed...wait I forgot you don't have a recumbent
> > or
> > ride
>
> Can't get beyond the proxy - can you.
Don't really care to either
> >> The world is full of characters like Gin and I do not waste my time on
> > them.
> >
> > Sure you do, you haven't stopped talking about him/them
>
> There is no them, just him. Note that I am talking ABOUT him, not TO him.
> And I am only talking about him in relationship to this group. The group
is
> my focus, not him. Also, please note that in this thread I am talking TO
> you, not ABOUT you. That is because I do not believe I am wasting my time
> with you.
No you are talking about him because he bugs you, you can't help but talk
about him. He really got to you
> > Aww nobody came to poor Ed Gin..er Ed Dolan's defense, gosh can't
imagine
> > why
>
> Never mind me, you did not come to the defense of the group, as if you
were
> not part of it even though you have been posting here like forever. But
> maybe you are just slumming here like so many others. But why stay so long
> if that is the case?
Defense of the group? you could have had everyone against the guy(s) and he
still would have posted, he/they could have cared less
> > Sure Ed sure
>
> You bet Leuck! You are NOT one of the few posters here on ARBR who
interest
> me, but rather with you it is always the subject, trivial though it may
be.
> You are not on the abysmal low level of Slugger, but you are far from the
> rarefied heights of Ed Dolan the Great!
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
You mean "Ed Dolan the Coward - Minnesota"
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Date: 29 Apr 2005 04:14:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
|
"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:IcWdnT80jt0tWOzfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:_7mdnX-sUMuvN-zfRVn-3g@prairiewave.com...
>
>> > Fred sounds a lot like you Ed...wait I forgot you don't have a
>> > recumbent
>> > or
>> > ride
>>
>> Can't get beyond the proxy - can you.
>
> Don't really care to either
I think that is the whole purpose of a proxy, to remain forever anonymous so
one can act like a scoundrel with no consequences.
>> >> The world is full of characters like Gin and I do not waste my time on
>> > them.
>> >
>> > Sure you do, you haven't stopped talking about him/them
>>
>> There is no them, just him. Note that I am talking ABOUT him, not TO him.
>> And I am only talking about him in relationship to this group. The group
> is
>> my focus, not him. Also, please note that in this thread I am talking TO
>> you, not ABOUT you. That is because I do not believe I am wasting my time
>> with you.
>
> No you are talking about him because he bugs you, you can't help but talk
> about him. He really got to you
What really bugged me is the way the group reacted to him by not reacting. I
would not have believed it if I hadn't witnessed it. I assure you, he did
not get to me. But the group did. That is why I am conversing with you right
now.
>> > Aww nobody came to poor Ed Gin..er Ed Dolan's defense, gosh can't
> imagine
>> > why
>>
>> Never mind me, you did not come to the defense of the group, as if you
> were
>> not part of it even though you have been posting here like forever. But
>> maybe you are just slumming here like so many others. But why stay so
>> long
>> if that is the case?
>
> Defense of the group? you could have had everyone against the guy(s) and
> he
> still would have posted, he/they could have cared less
I think you are right, but still everyone should have said at least
something. The silence was deafening.
>> > Sure Ed sure
>>
>> You bet Leuck! You are NOT one of the few posters here on ARBR who
> interest
>> me, but rather with you it is always the subject, trivial though it may
> be.
>> You are not on the abysmal low level of Slugger, but you are far from the
>> rarefied heights of Ed Dolan the Great!
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> You mean "Ed Dolan the Coward - Minnesota"
No, I mean Ed Dolan the Great. I spoke up, you did not.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 26 Apr 2005 04:57:38
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Joshua Goldberg" <evsolutions@rogers.com > wrote in message
news:uuKdndl9kbgYYvDfRVn-1A@rogers.com...
> Oh Pleeeez
> The 2 Edwards have left the building and a post like this will just give
> them a reason to
> return to counter your statements and the bitch slapping will begin all
> over again. I "on purpose" kicked off a Flame War on Yahoo and 3 days
> later ended it...Hell everyone loves a good Flame War now and then....but
> ya'll Monkey Island folk are making a career out of it. Really simple
> stuff here, you call everyone a horses ass and you sit back for 3 days and
> watch everyone blow a fuse and then you end it, kiss and make up and move
> on. You DON'T start a Flame War and let it run out of control till Dodge
> has burned to the ground and THEN move on. Ya'll try to out
> intellectualize one another and for men who claim to be so bloody
> intelligent, you cannot even pull off a simple Flame War without screwing
> that up.
>
> It will take some time for ARBR to recover and waltzing back in to get in
> one last boot to the crotch will just make that recovery slower.
>
> It is over..live with it, let the Group heal before returning and further
> embarrassing your species.
>
> And we now return to our regularly scheduled program
>
> Joshua (Head Lemming)
Hi Joshua. You ever make it to Vancouver or are you still stuck in dowdy old
Toronto?
Do not confuse me with Jim McNaa. He is a gentleman and took the high
road with Ed Gin. I took the low road as that is the only way to deal with
scum. However, Gin turned out to be even worse scum than I thought existed.
Gin is guilty of every one of the particulars which Jim was good enough to
list for our edification. There is no intellect involved in any of this.
ARBR is not capable of that.
I will never address Gin again directly in any manner whatsoever as I regard
him as nothing more or less than a criminal. He is most likely crazy to
boot. What I will do is report him to his ISP when he next transgresses. He
certainly does not deserve to have a distinguished first name like Edward.
By the way, I have never intentionally kicked off a flame war in my life.
They just seem to happen because others can't take a bit of straight talk. I
am always the soul of moderation and good sense. If others had any wisdom
they would attempt to emulate me. I do not refer to myself as Ed Dolan the
Great for nothing. Too bad if others can't see through to my genius.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 23:57:31
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1114473807.616646.65700@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> Ed Dolan is back and, since he mentioned my name several times, I guess
> I should be too, if for only a short duration. I was never accused of
> being a troll but there is no disagreement that Ed Gin was and still
> is. He just happens to be "trolling" elsewhere for the moment. Here
> is my take on what is being rehashed here from a historical
> perspective...
>
> The bane of an unmoderated forum, the egocentric troll Ed Gin has
> proven himself to be a malignant, festering pestilence that
> periodically plagues this newsgroup like a pervasive, parasitic
> infestation. The longer he lingers and the more posts he makes, the
> more he confirms his prima facie role as the resident, quintessential
> troll here at ARBR. The oratory of Ed Gin, is telling. Language is an
> instant indicator of class and education and Ed's assault of the
> English language ... his battered gram, mangled prose,
> prevarications and obscenities speak volumes about the shortcomings of
> a man who expects to be respected and demands to be revered. I am
> reasonably certain that the readership has long been glutted with Ed
> Gin's Johnny NoCom nonsense and the ensuing flame wars that emerged
> involving Ed Gin and his supportive menagerie of sock puppets that
> spewed an unremitting discharge of gibberish, self-serving juvenile
> nonsense and tasteless vulgarity.
>
>
> Some tradek characteristics by which to identify the troll ... Ed
> Gin
>
> - Unrestrained ego run amuck
>
> - Egregious character assassination based on an assortment of
> fabricated allegations
>
> - Profuse use of tasteless profanity
>
> - Malicious prevarication portrayed as fact without a shred of
> substantiating evidence
>
> - Deliberate misinterpretation of an adversary's comments in order to
> avoid having to make a direct response
>
> - Accusations toward a nemesis that the troll is demonstrably guilty of
>
> - Irrelevant and illogical cyclical argumentation
>
> - Disrespectful mockery of an antagonist's given name
>
> - A plethora of posts exhibiting a look at me ... aren't I wonderful,
> flavor of immaturity and insecurity
>
> - Posting of nonsensical, off-topic gibberish spawned by an infertile
> imagination
>
> - Cloaked behind a proxy email server, posts anonymously and
> impersonates an adversary's email address
>
> - Cowardly employment of a menagerie of sock puppets in support of an
> adolescent agenda to garner attention
>
>
> For those of you who are have had more than enough of Ed Gin's crap,
> should he begin anew, I recommend that you email abuse@newsfeeds.com
> and include examples of the specific acceptable use policies (listed
> below) that Ed Gin persistently violates. It is of utmost importance
> that you include the entire email header. Click "show options" and
> then "Show original" to view the entire header with the proxy
> identification information for this pathetic, contemptible troll. The
> rest is elementary ... highlight, cut and paste.
>
>
> TERMS OF SERVICE
>
> Newsfeeds.com has a zero-tolerance policy for the following activities,
> and performing any of them will cause permanent suspension of your
> posting ability. These activities include, but are not limited to:
>
> Flooding: Attempting to take over a newsgroup by flooding it with
> your posts.
>
> Trolling: Harassing or annoying other newsgroup users repeatedly.
>
> Posting Off-Topic: Posting something that does not belong in that
> newsgroup, as indicated by its charter or FAQ article.
>
> Harassment/Cyberstalking: Threatening or provoking confrontation with
> another party, causing fear for one's personal safety. Posting
> anyone's
> personal information such as phone numbers, addresses, social security
> numbers, etc. without that person's prior consent also falls under this
> category.
>
> Forgery or impersonation: Adding, removing or modifying identifying
> network header information in an effort to deceive or mislead is
> prohibited. Attempting to impersonate any person by using forged
> headers or other identifying information is prohibited. Falsifying
> email information for the sole purpose of attributing a post to someone
> else very likely qualifies as a serious abuse of service that would
> result in account termination.
>
> Posting ability is a privilege, not a right. Your posting access may be
> suspended at any time without notice at the discretion of our abuse
> department. If I use these services in violation of this agreement, I
> understand I may be in violation of local, federal and or civil laws. I
> agree to be responsible for all legal fees and loss of any income that
> I owe to the providers, owners, Corporate Officers, and/or creators of
> this site as a result of my activities. I understand that my membership
> will be canceled without notice or refund in such situations.
Wow! The best and ultimate post on the Ed Gin episode. I have no doubt that
he will be back because ARBR is easy pickings for him. What you have to say
in your above message ABOUT him and HOW to handle him should be an eye
opener for all the dunderheads in the group.
This business about just sitting back and taking it, the predominant
position of the group, is very bad policy and unworthy of the group. All it
would ever take is just a few complaints to his ISP to bring it to a halt.
Let us hope that your words to the wise will be sufficient to cover future
contingencies. It is either that or the group will die (it is already half
dead).
I hope everyone will save Jim's post and refer to it in the future for what
to do when Ed Gin and his sock puppets next rear their ugly heads on ARBR.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Apr 2005 21:03:31
From:
Subject: Re: has Librulizm bit the dust?
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LOL! "My political bent"??? You mean Alfred E Newman lost? Swear to
that on a stack of Holy Bibles? ;-)
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Date: 22 Apr 2005 12:49:01
From: LoGo USA
Subject: Re: has Librulizm bit the dust?
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nget ngarrulously ngushed:
>Only a liberal like Wayne...
I'm a LIBERAL? GASP! That's an odd proposition.
If John Birch gets the word on this new definition,
They'll be calling themselves neo-moderates, maybe;
And the NEW RIGHT, I guess, will insist that a baby
Has full rights from the instant of seminal spurting,
And that condoms are evil devices subverting
All the pleasures of sex to the work of the devil...
No, I'm kidding, of course; I should say (on the level):
All the folks here who know me will have a good laugh
At nget's rash assumption with this ngoofy ngaffe.
I'm afraid he has earned a swift swat on his tush;
>From the way that I voted last year - NOT FOR BUSH -
My political bent can be simply condensed:
Mr. Kerry's the guy that I voted AGAINST!
When one posts to a newgroup he shouldn't condemn
A comparative stranger; this 'US versus THEM'
Predilection's a sad and frustrating condition;
When a guy's so comitted - a man on a mission -
That he leaps to such blatantly errant conclusions,
He perhaps should consider he suffers delusions.
As I've stated before, ev'ry newsgroup consumer
Clearly needs, most of all, an intact sense of humor.
Keep smiling [PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!]
Wayne
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 08:58:35
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
|
LoGo USA Wrote:
> nget ngarrulously ngushed:
>
> >Only a liberal like Wayne...
>
> I'm a LIBERAL? GASP! That's an odd proposition.
> If John Birch gets the word on this new definition,
> They'll be calling themselves neo-moderates, maybe;
> And the NEW RIGHT, I guess, will insist that a baby
> Has full rights from the instant of seminal spurting,
> And that condoms are evil devices subverting
> All the pleasures of sex to the work of the devil...
> No, I'm kidding, of course; I should say (on the level):
> All the folks here who know me will have a good laugh
> At nget's rash assumption with this ngoofy ngaffe.
>
> I'm afraid he has earned a swift swat on his tush;
> >From the way that I voted last year - NOT FOR BUSH -
> My political bent can be simply condensed:
> Mr. Kerry's the guy that I voted AGAINST!
> When one posts to a newgroup he shouldn't condemn
> A comparative stranger; this 'US versus THEM'
> Predilection's a sad and frustrating condition;
> When a guy's so comitted - a man on a mission -
> That he leaps to such blatantly errant conclusions,
> He perhaps should consider he suffers delusions.
>
> As I've stated before, ev'ry newsgroup consumer
> Clearly needs, most of all, an intact sense of humor.
>
> Keep smiling [PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!]
> Wayne
You are most likely a closet liberal,and this may just be your bes
chance to come out.
Along with a sense of humor,a sense of fair play would be refreshing.I
order for the group to become something of value a certain amount o
trust should be in place.
Bottom line is Chicago monkeys wiped their butts on this place the
left.Before they had their own board which they also trashed.End
--
nget
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 00:01:20
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"nget" <nget.1nwwxz@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.1nwwxz@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> LoGo USA Wrote:
>> nget ngarrulously ngushed:
>>
>> >Only a liberal like Wayne...
>>
>> I'm a LIBERAL? GASP! That's an odd proposition.
>> If John Birch gets the word on this new definition,
>> They'll be calling themselves neo-moderates, maybe;
>> And the NEW RIGHT, I guess, will insist that a baby
>> Has full rights from the instant of seminal spurting,
>> And that condoms are evil devices subverting
>> All the pleasures of sex to the work of the devil...
>> No, I'm kidding, of course; I should say (on the level):
>> All the folks here who know me will have a good laugh
>> At nget's rash assumption with this ngoofy ngaffe.
>>
>> I'm afraid he has earned a swift swat on his tush;
>> >From the way that I voted last year - NOT FOR BUSH -
>> My political bent can be simply condensed:
>> Mr. Kerry's the guy that I voted AGAINST!
>> When one posts to a newgroup he shouldn't condemn
>> A comparative stranger; this 'US versus THEM'
>> Predilection's a sad and frustrating condition;
>> When a guy's so comitted - a man on a mission -
>> That he leaps to such blatantly errant conclusions,
>> He perhaps should consider he suffers delusions.
>>
>> As I've stated before, ev'ry newsgroup consumer
>> Clearly needs, most of all, an intact sense of humor.
>>
>> Keep smiling [PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!]
>> Wayne
>
> You are most likely a closet liberal,and this may just be your best
> chance to come out.
> Along with a sense of humor,a sense of fair play would be refreshing.In
> order for the group to become something of value a certain amount of
> trust should be in place.
> Bottom line is Chicago monkeys wiped their butts on this place then
> left.Before they had their own board which they also trashed.End.
Right you are nget! All the nonsense poetry in the world cannot obscure the
fact of what happened here with Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders nor how the
rest of the group stood by and let it happen. Meinecke and Sherman proved
themselves to be the cowards that they are by not coming to the defense of
the group. There were only a few of us who had any self respect, let alone
decency.
I frankly no longer give a damn about this group. I can stand stupid folks
since there are so many, but I can't stand cowardly folks - and that is what
ARBR is full of. Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders will be back to rub your
noses in their shit yet once again. Learn to like it since you are cowards.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 01:29:50
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
|
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:fZadneYPIrM5S_TfRVn-iw@prairiewave.com...
>
>
> I frankly no longer give a damn about this group. I can stand stupid folks
> since there are so many, but I can't stand cowardly folks - and that is
what
> ARBR is full of. Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders will be back to rub your
> noses in their shit yet once again. Learn to like it since you are
cowards.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
Goodbye Ed, don't let the door hit you on the way out
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 02:58:54
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
|
"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:x8GdnVOm3aPGdvTfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:fZadneYPIrM5S_TfRVn-iw@prairiewave.com...
>>
>>
>> I frankly no longer give a damn about this group. I can stand stupid
>> folks
>> since there are so many, but I can't stand cowardly folks - and that is
> what
>> ARBR is full of. Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders will be back to rub your
>> noses in their shit yet once again. Learn to like it since you are
> cowards.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Goodbye Ed, don't let the door hit you on the way out
Everyone please note the lack of a period at the end of Leuck's brainless
comment.
I will only look in on the group periodically (and rarely) to see how it is
doing. However, threads having to do with the demise of ARBR from it's
former greatness will always interest me since I am one of the few who knows
what happened and why it happened.
Recumbent related subjects on this group are for the birds - always have
been and always will be because of various scoundrels who infest the group.
If anyone is genuinely interested in learning something about recumbents, I
suggest any moderated forum where scum like Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders
are excluded.
The rest of you will have to settle for the likes of Leuck, Meinecke and
Sherman - quite a let down I know after having had the privilege of reading
the late great Ed Dolan. But nothing good lasts forever.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 05:02:41
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:d6adnY7OcryinfffRVn-iA@prairiewave.com...
>
> I will only look in on the group periodically (and rarely) to see how it
is
> doing. However, threads having to do with the demise of ARBR from it's
> former greatness will always interest me since I am one of the few who
knows
> what happened and why it happened.
Wow got us all on pins and needles in anticipation
> Recumbent related subjects on this group are for the birds - always have
> been and always will be because of various scoundrels who infest the
group.
> If anyone is genuinely interested in learning something about recumbents,
I
> suggest any moderated forum where scum like Ed Gin and his Monkey
Islanders
> are excluded.
Unlike you Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders at least talked about recumbents
> The rest of you will have to settle for the likes of Leuck, Meinecke and
> Sherman - quite a let down I know after having had the privilege of
reading
> the late great Ed Dolan. But nothing good lasts forever.
<yawn >
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 00:49:43
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:YuKdnYruFLOigPffRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:d6adnY7OcryinfffRVn-iA@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> I will only look in on the group periodically (and rarely) to see how it
> is
>> doing. However, threads having to do with the demise of ARBR from it's
>> former greatness will always interest me since I am one of the few who
> knows
>> what happened and why it happened.
>
> Wow got us all on pins and needles in anticipation
I think ARBR is now most likely on your low intellectual level (oh
period-less one) and that is why you could care less about improving it. At
least Meinecke always wanted to see ARBR improve, although he never had the
slightest notion about how it could be accomplished other than by censoring
everyone with whom he disagreed.
>> Recumbent related subjects on this group are for the birds - always have
>> been and always will be because of various scoundrels who infest the
> group.
>> If anyone is genuinely interested in learning something about recumbents,
> I
>> suggest any moderated forum where scum like Ed Gin and his Monkey
> Islanders
>> are excluded.
>
> Unlike you Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders at least talked about
> recumbents
They talked about recumbents in the most stupid way possible. And so do you
for that matter. But at least you are responsive and that counts for a lot
with me. Now if I could only get you to put a period at the end of your
sentences!
>> The rest of you will have to settle for the likes of Leuck, Meinecke and
>> Sherman - quite a let down I know after having had the privilege of
> reading
>> the late great Ed Dolan. But nothing good lasts forever.
>
> <yawn>
There is no one in the known universe who can keep a thread going like yours
truly. And I do it fair and square by being responsive, not trolling inanely
and insanely like Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders. Try to make some
meaningful discriminations, why don't you?
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 24 Apr 2005 02:29:37
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
|
k Leuck Wrote:
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:d6adnY7OcryinfffRVn-iA@prairiewave.com...
> >
> > I will only look in on the group periodically (and rarely) to see ho
> it
> is
> > doing. However, threads having to do with the demise of ARBR fro
> it's
> > former greatness will always interest me since I am one of the fe
> who
> knows
> > what happened and why it happened.
>
> Wow got us all on pins and needles in anticipation
>
> > Recumbent related subjects on this group are for the birds - alway
> have
> > been and always will be because of various scoundrels who infest the
> group.
> > If anyone is genuinely interested in learning something abou
> recumbents,
> I
> > suggest any moderated forum where scum like Ed Gin and his Monkey
> Islanders
> > are excluded.
>
> Unlike you Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders at least talked abou
> recumbents
>
> > The rest of you will have to settle for the likes of Leuck, Meineck
> and
> > Sherman - quite a let down I know after having had the privilege of
> reading
> > the late great Ed Dolan. But nothing good lasts forever.
>
> <yawn>
Leuck seems to have a brain although it appears to be small o
stature,however he does seem to lack a spine
--
nget
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 00:59:11
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"nget" <nget.1nya3z@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.1nya3z@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> k Leuck Wrote:
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:d6adnY7OcryinfffRVn-iA@prairiewave.com...
>> >
>> > I will only look in on the group periodically (and rarely) to see how
>> it
>> is
>> > doing. However, threads having to do with the demise of ARBR from
>> it's
>> > former greatness will always interest me since I am one of the few
>> who
>> knows
>> > what happened and why it happened.
>>
>> Wow got us all on pins and needles in anticipation
>>
>> > Recumbent related subjects on this group are for the birds - always
>> have
>> > been and always will be because of various scoundrels who infest the
>> group.
>> > If anyone is genuinely interested in learning something about
>> recumbents,
>> I
>> > suggest any moderated forum where scum like Ed Gin and his Monkey
>> Islanders
>> > are excluded.
>>
>> Unlike you Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders at least talked about
>> recumbents
>>
>> > The rest of you will have to settle for the likes of Leuck, Meinecke
>> and
>> > Sherman - quite a let down I know after having had the privilege of
>> reading
>> > the late great Ed Dolan. But nothing good lasts forever.
>>
>> <yawn>
>
> Leuck seems to have a brain although it appears to be small of
> stature, however he does seem to lack a spine.
Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only ones who showed
any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and were not to
be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the insanity. But it is
good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they can be treated with the
contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask where was Leuck while all this
was happening?
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 11:15:36
From: Bent For Evermore
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:adCdnQJPkMevGvHfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
[....]
> Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only ones who
> showed any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and were
> not to be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the insanity. But
> it is good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they can be treated
> with the contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask where was Leuck
> while all this was happening?
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
What a joke.
Your absurd so called "defense of the newsgroup" most likely increased the
duration and intensity of the monkey stink by a factor of ten. It did
nothing to end it. Nothing. Your obnoxiousness was the complete equal to
that of the monkey fool. The rest of the group showed excellent judgment
when they "headed for the tall grass and were not to be seen or heard from
for the entire duration of the insanity". Only the fools stayed to
participate.
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 15:32:02
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Bent For Evermore" <bentforevermore@bentmania.com > wrote in message
news:XYadnY9HgN4-ivDfRVn-sQ@giganews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:adCdnQJPkMevGvHfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> [....]
>> Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only ones who
>> showed any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and
>> were not to be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the
>> insanity. But it is good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they
>> can be treated with the contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask
>> where was Leuck while all this was happening?
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>
> What a joke.
>
> Your absurd so called "defense of the newsgroup" most likely increased the
> duration and intensity of the monkey stink by a factor of ten. It did
> nothing to end it. Nothing. Your obnoxiousness was the complete equal to
> that of the monkey fool. The rest of the group showed excellent judgment
> when they "headed for the tall grass and were not to be seen or heard from
> for the entire duration of the insanity". Only the fools stayed to
> participate.
Was Bent For Evermore here for the insanity or is he just slumming here like
everyone else now. Congratulations for the phrase "monkey stink" and
"monkey fool" at least, but you needed to say that when the battle was
raging. I was only obnoxious in response. Jim McNaa and Nget are
gentlemen, but I decided long ago it was a waste of time to be a gentleman
with this group - way too may slobs and jerks here.
But your point is nevertheless well taken. I shall not in the future bother
with scum like Ed Gin and his Monkey Islanders. However, for everyone to
remain silent in the face of these kinds of assaults is not good policy
either. All that is required for evil to prevail is that good men do
nothing. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in believing that you are
a good man, but still certain things need to be said at certain times. If
you were here and said nothing, it does NOT redound to your credit.
But I am reserving a special venom for Sherman, one of the mainstays of this
group who took a powder at the critical moment. It appears he has left the
group. If so, good riddance!
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 15:04:37
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Bent For Evermore" <bentforevermore@bentmania.com > wrote in message
news:XYadnY9HgN4-ivDfRVn-sQ@giganews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:adCdnQJPkMevGvHfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> [....]
>> Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only ones who
>> showed any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and
>> were not to be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the
>> insanity. But it is good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they
>> can be treated with the contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask
>> where was Leuck while all this was happening?
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>
> What a joke.
>
> Your absurd so called "defense of the newsgroup" most likely increased the
> duration and intensity of the monkey stink by a factor of ten. It did
> nothing to end it. Nothing. Your obnoxiousness was the complete equal to
> that of the monkey fool. The rest of the group showed excellent judgment
> when they "headed for the tall grass and were not to be seen or heard from
> for the entire duration of the insanity". Only the fools stayed to
> participate.
>
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 06:34:31
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:adCdnQJPkMevGvHfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only ones who
showed
> any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and were not to
> be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the insanity. But it is
> good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they can be treated with
the
> contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask where was Leuck while all
this
> was happening?
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
Leuck was laughing his ass off watching you auto respond to the monkey
island folks, face it Ed you have no spine either since you left too.
Or should I say "kind of left" since as usual you really haven't really left
here yet, now be a good boy and say goodbye to us cowards, knaves and
spineless folk. I'm sure another newsgroup would be more than happy seeing
your posts, might I recommend alt.rec.pompous.windbags?
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Date: 25 Apr 2005 15:03:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:cZGdneKlzKFdSPHfRVn-vw@comcast.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:adCdnQJPkMevGvHfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only ones who
> showed
>> any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and were not
>> to
>> be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the insanity. But it is
>> good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they can be treated with
> the
>> contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask where was Leuck while all
> this
>> was happening?
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Leuck was laughing his ass off watching you auto respond to the monkey
> island folks, face it Ed you have no spine either since you left too.
My God, a period at the end of a Leuck sentence!
There was no point in hanging around this group since no one would defend it
with one or two exceptions. You have never cared about this group - that is
for sure. All your comments are two bit phrases with little or no thought
behind them. Try to write an extended essay to this group on a subject of
your own choosing which you think might be of general interest just once why
don't you and see if anyone responds (besides me of course).
> Or should I say "kind of left" since as usual you really haven't really
> left
> here yet, now be a good boy and say goodbye to us cowards, knaves and
> spineless folk. I'm sure another newsgroup would be more than happy seeing
> your posts, might I recommend alt.rec.pompous.windbags?
All newsgroups are for jerks and scoundrels which is the reason you are on
more than one newsgroup as you are a bigger jerk and scoundrel than most.
But I do give you credit for being responsive. So there is hope for you.
Hang in there and some day you will be as great as I am.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 26 Apr 2005 00:33:47
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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k Leuck Wrote:
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:adCdnQJPkMevGvHfRVn-jQ@prairiewave.com...
> >
> > Nget along with McNaa and myself were just about the only one
> who
> showed
> > any spine. The rest of the group headed for the tall grass and wer
> not to
> > be seen or heard from for the entire duration of the insanity. But i
> is
> > good to know who the cowards and knaves are so they can be treate
> with
> the
> > contempt they so richly deserve. I might ask where was Leuck whil
> all
> this
> > was happening?
> >
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> Leuck was laughing his ass off watching you auto respond to the monkey
> island folks, face it Ed you have no spine either since you left too.
>
> Or should I say "kind of left" since as usual you really haven't reall
> left
> here yet, now be a good boy and say goodbye to us cowards, knaves and
> spineless folk. I'm sure another newsgroup would be more than happ
> seeing
> your posts, might I recommend alt.rec.pompous.windbags?
k you should go back to your last post where you thought others o
this board would be interested in wheather or not you wear underpants.
Because you sleep with monkeys your lack of moral fiber is there fo
all to see.If Ed never made you chuckle from at least some of his post
may I say you are a stick in the mud.If monkeys get you to laugh the
you should go find where they live and do whatever it is that please
them.
Now go and do the right thing
--
nget
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Date: 26 Apr 2005 01:03:35
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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nget Wrote:
> k you should go back to your last post where you thought others o
> this board would be interested in wheather or not you wear underpants.
> Because you sleep with monkeys your lack of moral fiber is there fo
> all to see.If Ed never made you chuckle from at least some of his post
> may I say you are a stick in the mud.If monkeys get you to laugh the
> you should go find where they live and do whatever it is that please
> them.
> Now go and do the right thing.
Please overlook the small a in whether,if it will help I will go clos
the screen door on the digits of my left hand.Thank
--
nget
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Date: 22 Apr 2005 00:05:05
From: LoGo USA
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Nget posted (somewhat nonsensically, AFAICS):
>There can be no victory in cowardice for those who post nonsence.
If it's nonsence you're seeking (however you spell it),
It's most likely to come from the pen of a zealot.
I'm just trying to lighten this up, 'cuz it seems
That some folks may be going to rabid extremes
With their ranting and raving about who's to blame
For the 'death' of this newsgroup; they fume and they flame!
But I'd like to remind you: it's isn't that serious,
That although an old TROLL is a tad deleterious -
He's obtrusive, unpleasant, a bit of a bragger -
In the end he is merely a virtual tagger.
So he postures and lectures, he's rude and insulting -
There's a lot more that's said than is done, thus resulting
In an e-hood that's littered with too much graffiti,
But it's merely a nuisance. My honest entreaty
Is to please mellow out, and to keep your perspective;
What's the point of a battle with bitter invective?
It's a newsgroup - GOOD GRIEF! - mostly chatting and prattle,
Why defend it as though it is real (or chattel)?
I for one have enjoyed these few weeks without TROLLS;
Would a motion to keep it that way sweep the polls?
Keep smiling [PLEASE!],
Wayne
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 00:17:25
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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LoGo USA Wrote:
> Nget posted (somewhat nonsensically, AFAICS):
>
> >There can be no victory in cowardice for those who post nonsence.
>
> If it's nonsence you're seeking (however you spell it),
> It's most likely to come from the pen of a zealot.
>
> I'm just trying to lighten this up, 'cuz it seems
> That some folks may be going to rabid extremes
> With their ranting and raving about who's to blame
> For the 'death' of this newsgroup; they fume and they flame!
> But I'd like to remind you: it's isn't that serious,
> That although an old TROLL is a tad deleterious -
> He's obtrusive, unpleasant, a bit of a bragger -
> In the end he is merely a virtual tagger.
>
> So he postures and lectures, he's rude and insulting -
> There's a lot more that's said than is done, thus resulting
> In an e-hood that's littered with too much graffiti,
> But it's merely a nuisance. My honest entreaty
> Is to please mellow out, and to keep your perspective;
> What's the point of a battle with bitter invective?
> It's a newsgroup - GOOD GRIEF! - mostly chatting and prattle,
> Why defend it as though it is real (or chattel)?
>
> I for one have enjoyed these few weeks without TROLLS;
> Would a motion to keep it that way sweep the polls?
>
> Keep smiling [PLEASE!],
> Wayne
Only a liberal like Wayne could say that he wants to lighten things u
while at the same time he attacks and flames away.Who has Time for suc
nonsense?I wrote what I know to be true for me.
You now have an option to reread my post and let it sink in or perhap
you and flash can go bounce off a few walls just for your enjoyment.
Life is good without the mental disorder of liberalism
--
nget
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Date: 22 Apr 2005 10:00:09
From: LioNiNoiL_a t_Y a h 0 0_d 0 t_c 0 m
Subject: has Librulizm bit the dust?
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nget wrote:
> Can those on the far left only have fun if they shout down
> the conservative and limit free speech?
> ...
> Only a liberal like Wayne could say that he wants to lighten
> things up while at the same time he attacks and flames away.
> ...
> Life is good without the mental disorder of liberalism.
"Librul Orphant Annie" (with apologies to James Whitcomb Riley):
At one time a Lib-er-ul 'ud allus laugh an' grin,
An' make fun of ever' one, an' all they blood-an'-kin;
An' wunst, when they was "company", Conservatives wuz there,
He mocked 'em an' he shocked 'em, an' said he didn't care!
An' thist as he kicked his heels, an' turn't to run an' hide,
They wuz two great big Men In Black a-standin' by his side,
An' they snatched him out the door afore he knowed what he's about!
An' the Neo-cons 'll git you
Ef you
Don't
Watch
Out!
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Date: 21 Apr 2005 21:24:24
From: LoGo USA
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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In reply to Jon Meinecke's comment:
>Trolls... likely will return...
One whose name should not be mentioned responded:
>We great ones... are now gone, most likely never to return.
Inspiring me (once again) to have a bit of funky fun:
Jon was right in his doubts that non-trolls won a victory.
With a message itself just a tad contradictory,
One annoying old TROLL, who berated and cussed us,
Like a zombie, came back - non-poetic injustice!
When you read where a TROLL makes a promise (or threatens)
That he's gone, disappeared, like those furry Tibetans
Which most people suspect are just mythical creatures,
Don't believe it; TROLL bookings may be double features.
You relax, and the TROLL (much more vile than a Yeti)
May pop up like a landmine - SURPRISE! Bouncing Betty!
Though he swears he's "most likely to never return",
Don't take bets unless you have some money to burn!
Keep smiling,
Wayne
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 03:49:20
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"LoGo USA" <wayne@logo-us.com > wrote in message
news:1114143864.909522.287470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> In reply to Jon Meinecke's comment:
>
>>Trolls... likely will return...
>
> One whose name should not be mentioned responded:
>
>>We great ones... are now gone, most likely never to return.
>
> Inspiring me (once again) to have a bit of funky fun:
>
> Jon was right in his doubts that non-trolls won a victory.
> With a message itself just a tad contradictory,
> One annoying old TROLL, who berated and cussed us,
> Like a zombie, came back - non-poetic injustice!
>
> When you read where a TROLL makes a promise (or threatens)
> That he's gone, disappeared, like those furry Tibetans
> Which most people suspect are just mythical creatures,
> Don't believe it; TROLL bookings may be double features.
>
> You relax, and the TROLL (much more vile than a Yeti)
> May pop up like a landmine - SURPRISE! Bouncing Betty!
> Though he swears he's "most likely to never return",
> Don't take bets unless you have some money to burn!
>
> Keep smiling,
> Wayne
Your verse would have been truly appreciated in the good old days, but the
Ed Gin - Monkey Islanders episode has permanently soured this group to all
levity, wit and intelligence. Besides, those types have long since gone from
here and what is left now are the dregs of society - homo stupidus in all
his glory.
Do not waste any effort or your talent on this group as they are not worth
it. However, I think you are quite the poet (and witty too). I wish I could
do that but I never could write a single line of verse. Also, I never
attempt wit because I do not have the intelligence for it. The saddest sight
in the world are dumbbells who think they are witty. Sherman is a prime
example of that. It is better to be total plodder like Meinecke.
The trouble with writing verse is that no one will read it. It belongs to
the previous centuries, not to this century. It may be that rap is all we
are capable of anymore. I much prefer well written prose myself as I am
never sure what the poets are going on and on about. I once read Lord
Byron's works and finally decided it was beautiful but it never made much
sense - or at least it was not worth thinking about. But I am a lazy man if
nothing else and I never like to work at anything. I have always found
poetry to be hard work.
Best Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 22 Apr 2005 15:56:25
From: nget
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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LoGo USA Wrote:
> In reply to Jon Meinecke's comment:
>
> >Trolls... likely will return...
>
> One whose name should not be mentioned responded:
>
> >We great ones... are now gone, most likely never to return.
>
> Inspiring me (once again) to have a bit of funky fun:
>
> Jon was right in his doubts that non-trolls won a victory.
> With a message itself just a tad contradictory,
> One annoying old TROLL, who berated and cussed us,
> Like a zombie, came back - non-poetic injustice!
>
> When you read where a TROLL makes a promise (or threatens)
> That he's gone, disappeared, like those furry Tibetans
> Which most people suspect are just mythical creatures,
> Don't believe it; TROLL bookings may be double features.
>
> You relax, and the TROLL (much more vile than a Yeti)
> May pop up like a landmine - SURPRISE! Bouncing Betty!
> Though he swears he's "most likely to never return",
> Don't take bets unless you have some money to burn!
>
> Keep smiling,
> Wayne
There can be no victory in cowardice for those who post nonsence.Wil
you as a spider spin a web for others and rewrite the history of ARBR?
believe before the Chicago gang of monkeys came to this place there wa
an order to the posting.In their extreme hatred they trashed th
place.
Ed Dolan is mostly right about this group.I for one would like to sa
that his post was refreshing to see.
Can those on the far left only have fun if they shout down th
conservative and limit free speech
--
nget
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Date: 18 Apr 2005 05:41:28
From: BentJay
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Why did the trolls go away? Is someone monitoring this newsgroup now?
BentJay
GS GTO
See my tour journal at: http://aroundthelake.crazyguyonabike.com
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Date: 18 Apr 2005 13:47:36
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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BentJay wrote:
> Why did the trolls go away? Is someone monitoring this newsgroup now?
I suspect they got bored coz eveyone ignored / killfiled them. That is the
way it is with trolls. 'tis still and unmoderated 'froup.
--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ >
Flies are the work of Stan, and should be killed by all means available.
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Date: 23 Apr 2005 04:58:19
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Dave Larrington" <smert.spamionam@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:3chp7aF6ps2hcU1@individual.net...
> BentJay wrote:
>> Why did the trolls go away? Is someone monitoring this newsgroup now?
>
> I suspect they got bored coz eveyone ignored / killfiled them. That is
> the
> way it is with trolls. 'tis still and unmoderated 'froup.
In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. But I have two eyes and
they were both wide open for the entire episode.
I can tell you what killed this group and it was not the so-called "trolls"
which have been with us from the beginning or any kill filing going on
either. It was a particular criminal troll by the name of Ed Gin with help
from his group known as the Monkey Islanders. He was a criminal troll
because his posts did not relate to anything that had gone before, he
interleaved his posts into other threads that were not relevant, he was
never responsive, he used every name and address in the book (sock puppets),
but even worse than that he used real names not his own so as to mislead
others as to who was saying what. He was also a computer hacker or at least
one of his associates was.
But Larrington laid low like most of the other cowards here and saw no evil,
heard no evil and said nothing. But I know who spoke up and who didn't speak
up and I am not about to gloss over it like so many others. Only McNaa
and a few others spoke up. The rest of you buried your heads in the sand
like ostriches hoping it would all go away. Now you know why I have such
contempt for this group overall and for a few members in particular whom I
had always regarded as the mainstay of the group.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 18 Apr 2005 09:45:00
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Dave Larrington" <smert.spamionam@privacy.net > wrote
> BentJay wrote:
> > Why did the trolls go away? Is someone monitoring this newsgroup now?
Many of us "monitor" the newsgroup, as in "read it", but no one can
censor the content of others (other than their service providers). ARBR
is, as it has been, an unmoderated newsgroup. Any apparent "moderation"
now is self-imposed. It would take an RFD and vote to change it to be
formally moderated now.
> I suspect they got bored coz everyone ignored / killfiled them. That is
the
> way it is with trolls. 'tis still and unmoderated 'froup.
Trolls bored, perhaps, temporarily,-- they likely will return in same guises
or others. Contentiousness for contentiousness sake is cheap. We've seen
how far it can degenerate pretty quickly. These things seem to go in
cycles,
but in my experience, the ARBR episode lasted longer than most,-- more
than a year.
Maybe we've learned something, maybe not... In the end, little can
be done if someone is dedicated to "vandalizing" a newsgroup. It's the
nature of the beast. One of the things some people learned is that there
are other forums, less subject to derailment.
Taking the opportunity of this lull to build/rebuild the community is
advised.
Fewer messages is not necessarily bad.
Jon Meinecke
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Date: 20 Apr 2005 02:16:23
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:1113835488.aa05edfff32d304e4f4457b28ef89f4f@teranews...
> "Dave Larrington" <smert.spamionam@privacy.net> wrote
>> BentJay wrote:
>> > Why did the trolls go away? Is someone monitoring this newsgroup now?
>
> Many of us "monitor" the newsgroup, as in "read it", but no one can
> censor the content of others (other than their service providers). ARBR
> is, as it has been, an unmoderated newsgroup. Any apparent "moderation"
> now is self-imposed. It would take an RFD and vote to change it to be
> formally moderated now.
>
>> I suspect they got bored coz everyone ignored / killfiled them. That is
> the
>> way it is with trolls. 'tis still and unmoderated 'froup.
>
> Trolls bored, perhaps, temporarily,-- they likely will return in same
> guises
> or others. Contentiousness for contentiousness sake is cheap. We've seen
> how far it can degenerate pretty quickly. These things seem to go in
> cycles,
> but in my experience, the ARBR episode lasted longer than most,-- more
> than a year.
>
> Maybe we've learned something, maybe not... In the end, little can
> be done if someone is dedicated to "vandalizing" a newsgroup. It's the
> nature of the beast. One of the things some people learned is that there
> are other forums, less subject to derailment.
>
> Taking the opportunity of this lull to build/rebuild the community is
> advised.
> Fewer messages is not necessarily bad.
>
> Jon Meinecke
Poor Jon Meinecke never had a clue about this group, not from day one and
not from the last day either. It was the criminal troll Ed Gin who killed
this group. But Meinecke thinks all trolls are equal. Ed Gin was a criminal
troll and that is what killed the group.
It was the likes of me who gave life to the group. But Meinecke prefers
things to be dead like he is. That is the way it is now so he should be
happy. A dead man consorting with other dead men. No one with any
intelligence or a spark of life will have anything to do with this group.
But that is what happens when a group takes the cowardly way out and lets a
criminal troll like Ed Gin dominate the group with his totally insane posts.
I will look in on this group periodically to see just how dead it is going
to get. I think eventually it will end up with Meinecke babbling to himself
like the crazy old man that he is.
We great ones who were once the heart and soul of ARBR are now gone, most
likely never to return. Now you have dwarfs like Meinecke and criminal
trolls like Ed Gin to amuse you. Enjoy! You all deserve one another.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 18 Apr 2005 12:59:26
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Has a.r.b.r. bit the dust?
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Al Kubeluis wrote:
> Hi arbr'ers,
>
> I haven't been following arbr for months but decided to check in a
> couple of days ago. Very few posts. What's happened?
The trolls went away.
--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ >
Flies are the work of Stan, and should be killed by all means available.
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