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Date: 29 Jun 2005 04:09:07
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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Some of you may have seen my earlier post offering to trade my WindCheetah
for a Greenspeed or other high end trike.
Yesterday I went to see someone who had two different trikes to trade. The
first one was an Optima Rhino and the second was a Greenspeed GT3.
I went there really hoping to love the Rhino. It was fully suspended. It had
a transmission consisting of a Rohloff Speedhub and a Schlumph Speed Drive.
It was clearly well suited for both on and off road riding. It was a thing
of beauty to behold.
Unfortunately it had some of the same problems that made the WindCheetah a
bad choice for me.
1. The seat was too narrow. It was comfortable and if that were the worst
problem, it could be lived with but...
2. The most comfortable postion for the handlebars left your hands very
close to the wheels. Even adjusting them back a bit still left you with
hands that were too close.and....
3. When cornering, the wheels came very close to or could even touch my legs
and finally...
4. When I was at the end of my pedal stroke with my leg extended, my thigh
was resting on the spring that was built into the shock. This wasn't a
problem in the parking lot but I could see where it could be one in actual
use.
So this trike, which was clearly a thing of beauty, and loaded with great
features, was not the trike for me. I kept looking at it and really wanted
it to be the one but it wasn't. Alas.
Jeff
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Date: 29 Jun 2005 18:06:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7 > wrote in message
news:11c4lokqgqmau3a@news.supernews.com...
> Some of you may have seen my earlier post offering to trade my WindCheetah
> for a Greenspeed or other high end trike.
>
> Yesterday I went to see someone who had two different trikes to trade. The
> first one was an Optima Rhino and the second was a Greenspeed GT3.
>
> I went there really hoping to love the Rhino. It was fully suspended. It
> had a transmission consisting of a Rohloff Speedhub and a Schlumph Speed
> Drive. It was clearly well suited for both on and off road riding. It was
> a thing of beauty to behold.
>
> Unfortunately it had some of the same problems that made the WindCheetah a
> bad choice for me.
>
> 1. The seat was too narrow. It was comfortable and if that were the worst
> problem, it could be lived with but...
>
> 2. The most comfortable postion for the handlebars left your hands very
> close to the wheels. Even adjusting them back a bit still left you with
> hands that were too close.and....
>
> 3. When cornering, the wheels came very close to or could even touch my
> legs and finally...
>
> 4. When I was at the end of my pedal stroke with my leg extended, my thigh
> was resting on the spring that was built into the shock. This wasn't a
> problem in the parking lot but I could see where it could be one in actual
> use.
>
> So this trike, which was clearly a thing of beauty, and loaded with great
> features, was not the trike for me. I kept looking at it and really wanted
> it to be the one but it wasn't. Alas.
>
> Jeff
Look for a trike in an extra large size. Be aware also that there is
generally a 300 pound weight limit on most of them. Maybe you could lose
some weight and trim down. Bikes are not really designed for giants.
It may be that you would look very good on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
That way you could do your own thing and be a rebellious lout. In other
words, you could be you and not have to post the way the rest of us do here
on ARBR. Those motorcycle guys on their newsgroups might even appreciate
your manner of posting. You could be just one of the guys. Hey! I did things
MY WAY!
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 05:44:51
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com...
> Look for a trike in an extra large size. Be aware also that there is
> generally a 300 pound weight limit on most of them. Maybe you could lose
> some weight and trim down. Bikes are not really designed for giants.
Fortunately I'm not in the 300 pound range (or higher). I'm under 250 these
days so that puts me in the range for the Greenspeed GT3 which I traded for
the WindCheetah. It felt as good as I remember Greedspeed trike feeling.
>
> It may be that you would look very good on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
> That way you could do your own thing and be a rebellious lout. In other
> words, you could be you and not have to post the way the rest of us do
> here on ARBR. Those motorcycle guys on their newsgroups might even
> appreciate your manner of posting. You could be just one of the guys. Hey!
> I did things MY WAY!
I do everything my way but I don't do motors. Remember my parting....
I wish you many happy miles on the pedal powered vehicle of your choice.
Pedal powered is key here.
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 04:08:00
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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In article <9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:
> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7> wrote in message
> news:11c4lokqgqmau3a@news.supernews.com...
> > Some of you may have seen my earlier post offering to trade my WindCheetah
> > for a Greenspeed or other high end trike.
> >
> > Yesterday I went to see someone who had two different trikes to trade. The
> > first one was an Optima Rhino and the second was a Greenspeed GT3.
> >
> > I went there really hoping to love the Rhino. It was fully suspended. It
> > had a transmission consisting of a Rohloff Speedhub and a Schlumph Speed
> > Drive. It was clearly well suited for both on and off road riding. It was
> > a thing of beauty to behold.
> >
> > Unfortunately it had some of the same problems that made the WindCheetah a
> > bad choice for me.
> >
> > 1. The seat was too narrow. It was comfortable and if that were the worst
> > problem, it could be lived with but...
> >
> > 2. The most comfortable postion for the handlebars left your hands very
> > close to the wheels. Even adjusting them back a bit still left you with
> > hands that were too close.and....
> >
> > 3. When cornering, the wheels came very close to or could even touch my
> > legs and finally...
> >
> > 4. When I was at the end of my pedal stroke with my leg extended, my thigh
> > was resting on the spring that was built into the shock. This wasn't a
> > problem in the parking lot but I could see where it could be one in actual
> > use.
> >
> > So this trike, which was clearly a thing of beauty, and loaded with great
> > features, was not the trike for me. I kept looking at it and really wanted
> > it to be the one but it wasn't. Alas.
> >
> > Jeff
>
> Look for a trike in an extra large size. Be aware also that there is
> generally a 300 pound weight limit on most of them. Maybe you could lose
> some weight and trim down. Bikes are not really designed for giants.
>
> It may be that you would look very good on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle.
> That way you could do your own thing and be a rebellious lout. In other
> words, you could be you and not have to post the way the rest of us do here
> on ARBR. Those motorcycle guys on their newsgroups might even appreciate
> your manner of posting. You could be just one of the guys. Hey! I did things
> MY WAY!
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
Lighten up dolan, your not great.
Humble yourself.
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 01:44:14
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:290620052107284721%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>
> Lighten up dolan, your not great.
> Humble yourself.
"dolan" should be Dolan and "your" should be you're. Two mistakes out of
eight words. Not bad for upyerbumbum Slugger!
I have repeatedly tried to humble myself, but I have failed every time due
to types like Jeff Grippe who insists on posting idiosyncratically, i.e. ,
wrongly. To attempt to educate everyone on the correct conventions of
posting is a thankless task and an endless one to boot. I no sooner get one
corrected than another comes along to take his place.
Jeff is particularly stubborn however. That is the besetting sin of
intellectuals. They are full of pride and will not humble themselves. They
have lost the knack of being a good student. I of course set a sterling
example of how others should behave when confronted with the errors of their
ways.
As much as I would like to be humble (it is not easy to be Great all the
time), I still have much work to do with characters like Jeff around, and so
I must remain truly yours ... Ed Dolan the Great.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 22:05:26
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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In article <VsednYzyYO1YCV7fRVn-gQ@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:
> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:290620052107284721%upyer@bumbum.com...
> > In article <9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >>
> >
> > Lighten up dolan, your not great.
> > Humble yourself.
>
> "dolan" should be Dolan and "your" should be you're. Two mistakes out of
> eight words. Not bad for upyerbumbum Slugger!
>
> I have repeatedly tried to humble myself, but I have failed every time due
> to types like Jeff Grippe who insists on posting idiosyncratically, i.e. ,
> wrongly. To attempt to educate everyone on the correct conventions of
> posting is a thankless task and an endless one to boot. I no sooner get one
> corrected than another comes along to take his place.
>
> Jeff is particularly stubborn however. That is the besetting sin of
> intellectuals. They are full of pride and will not humble themselves. They
> have lost the knack of being a good student. I of course set a sterling
> example of how others should behave when confronted with the errors of their
> ways.
>
> As much as I would like to be humble (it is not easy to be Great all the
> time), I still have much work to do with characters like Jeff around, and so
> I must remain truly yours ... Ed Dolan the Great.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
If i felt you deserved a contraction or a capital letter then i would
have graced you with one.
But like I said you need be humbled.
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 23:14:27
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:300620051504573612%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <VsednYzyYO1YCV7fRVn-gQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:290620052107284721%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> > In article <9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
>> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >>
>> >
>> > Lighten up dolan, your not great.
>> > Humble yourself.
>>
>> "dolan" should be Dolan and "your" should be you're. Two mistakes out of
>> eight words. Not bad for upyerbumbum Slugger!
[...]
> If i felt you deserved a contraction or a capital letter then i would
> have graced you with one.
>
> But like I said you need be humbled.
You have at least got yourself pegged right in any event. A small i for a
capital I suits you to a T.
However, upyerbumbum Slugger does know how to post the right way. Jeff
Grippe could learn a thing or two by observing how others post here to ARBR.
If an idiot like upyerbumbum Slugger can post the right way, then someone as
intelligent as Jeff can post the right way too.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 05:48:43
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:VsednYzyYO1YCV7fRVn-gQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:290620052107284721%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> In article <9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
>> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>>
>>
>> Lighten up dolan, your not great.
>> Humble yourself.
>
> "dolan" should be Dolan and "your" should be you're. Two mistakes out of
> eight words. Not bad for upyerbumbum Slugger!
>
Slugger, Dolan, and anyone else tempted to respond. PLEASE DONT. We've done
this discussion. Please read the "Hit Gravel, broke leg" thread and there
will be more discussion about Dolan, Buck, Peter, Me, and other assorted
clowns then you could possibly stand.
Please don't let this thread turn into another one of those. Please. Don't
even respond to this message to tell me you agree and won't post pro or anti
"other poster" messages.
If you respond at all please just stay on topic. Please!
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 23:38:41
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7 > wrote in message
news:11c7fui6n0in04f@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:VsednYzyYO1YCV7fRVn-gQ@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:290620052107284721%upyer@bumbum.com...
>>> In article <9uOdnY_kkPjttF7fRVn-ug@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
>>> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>>>
>>>
>>> Lighten up dolan, your not great.
>>> Humble yourself.
>>
>> "dolan" should be Dolan and "your" should be you're. Two mistakes out of
>> eight words. Not bad for upyerbumbum Slugger!
>>
>
> Slugger, Dolan, and anyone else tempted to respond. PLEASE DONT. We've
> done this discussion. Please read the "Hit Gravel, broke leg" thread and
> there will be more discussion about Dolan, Buck, Peter, Me, and other
> assorted clowns then you could possibly stand.
>
> Please don't let this thread turn into another one of those. Please. Don't
> even respond to this message to tell me you agree and won't post pro or
> anti "other poster" messages.
>
> If you respond at all please just stay on topic. Please!
This topic has already died if it ever even lived. A new message posted to a
newsgroup will have it's greatest response within a couple of days. After
that it begins to die, as it should.
Upyerbumbum Slugger and I can go on exchanging insults until the cows come
home. The difference is that I will try to make my insults interesting and
charming whereas he will just go for the groin like the bottom feeder that
he is. Slugger is quite good on the subject of computers, but on most other
things he is hopeless. I have thought of teaching him how to write the
language that we more or less share, but he is a lot like you that way. He
insists on doing things his OWN WAY, even if it is all the wrong way.
I put you in the same category as k Leuck, another intelligent scofflaw
who insists on doing things his own way. He refuses to put periods at the
end of his sentences. What do you think of that, I wonder?
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
PS. I have noted that your recent postings are in the correct style. Keep up
the good work!
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Date: 29 Jun 2005 22:57:57
From: Buck
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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On 06/29/2005 09:09:07 "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7 > wrote:
> Some of you may have seen my earlier post offering to trade my WindCheetah
> for a Greenspeed or other high end trike.
> Yesterday I went to see someone who had two different trikes to trade.
> The first one was an Optima Rhino and the second was a Greenspeed GT3.
> I went there really hoping to love the Rhino. It was fully suspended. It
> had a transmission consisting of a Rohloff Speedhub and a Schlumph Speed
> Drive. It was clearly well suited for both on and off road riding. It was
> a thing of beauty to behold.
> Unfortunately it had some of the same problems that made the WindCheetah a
> bad choice for me.
> 1. The seat was too narrow. It was comfortable and if that were the
> worst problem, it could be lived with but...
> 2. The most comfortable postion for the handlebars left your hands very
> close to the wheels. Even adjusting them back a bit still left you with
Jeff, go test ride the new Catrike Road, I would be interested in hearing your opinion.
--
Buck
I would rather be out on my Catrike
http://www.catrike.co.uk
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 05:41:43
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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The shop I visited only had a new Speed in stock so I didn't get to ride it.
Meanwhile I rode the Sidewinder. What a strange creature that is. Fun to
test ride in a parking lot but I'd never want to take one on the road.
Imagine somebody thinking that we might actually want to brake steer.
I'll be going back there and I'm sure they will have a Road and I'll ride
it.
Jeff
"Buck" <ian@ATtrikesandstuffDOT.coDOT.uk > wrote in message
news:6292357.GQLJQJFG@news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>
> On 06/29/2005 09:09:07 "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7> wrote:
>
>> Some of you may have seen my earlier post offering to trade my
>> WindCheetah
>> for a Greenspeed or other high end trike.
>
>> Yesterday I went to see someone who had two different trikes to trade.
>> The first one was an Optima Rhino and the second was a Greenspeed GT3.
>
>> I went there really hoping to love the Rhino. It was fully suspended.
>> It
>> had a transmission consisting of a Rohloff Speedhub and a Schlumph Speed
>> Drive. It was clearly well suited for both on and off road riding. It
>> was
>> a thing of beauty to behold.
>
>> Unfortunately it had some of the same problems that made the WindCheetah
>> a
>> bad choice for me.
>
>> 1. The seat was too narrow. It was comfortable and if that were the
>> worst problem, it could be lived with but...
>
>> 2. The most comfortable postion for the handlebars left your hands very
>> close to the wheels. Even adjusting them back a bit still left you with
>
> Jeff, go test ride the new Catrike Road, I would be interested in hearing
> your opinion.
>
> --
>
> Buck
>
> I would rather be out on my Catrike
>
> http://www.catrike.co.uk
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Date: 30 Jun 2005 11:13:43
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: I Wanted to Fall in Love But...
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Jeff Grippe wrote:
> Imagine somebody thinking that we might actually want to brake steer.
Don't try a Hase KettWiesel then...
Amazing amounts of brake steer, which for the first couple of stops I
found quite alarming (being a bike man most of the time a gentle squeeze
of the front brake is enough to slow things up, but that gives a sharp
turn on the Kett). But after a while you can actually use it to do
handbrake turns, which are good fun! As is the Kettwiesel as a whole
package. Hase have some fun videos on their site, one is some mad
people doing some mad off road on them, another is a *Very Silly* James
Bond spoof.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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