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Date: 09 May 2005 00:56:26
From: Joao de Souza
Subject: Last repose to Ed Gin.
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For starters, for those of you who missed it, take a look at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/4fd2b5831ddfd04d?dmode=source
That's a message by Ed Gin, on Ed Gin's own "online voice", signed by
him, but the "From:" line reads
"Johnny NoCom <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com >"
So I pointed that out to Ed, and after a little back-and-forth he sent
me a response I just can't resist!
Ed Gin/Johnny Nocom wrote:
>
> I've offered a lucrative multi thousand dollar offer to you before.
Yes, you offered to pay me $10,000 dollars if I could find your HOME
computer at your office. I don't usually say the word "duhhhh" in
everyday conversation, but this time I just can't find another word that
fits.
By the way, the phrase "lucrative multi thousand dollar offer" sounds
like a good percentage of the SPAM messages I receive. Coincidence?
> How about this one? Prove conclusively I am the author of posts as
> Johnny NoCom and I'll happily hand you $10,000 in USA Dollars.
Ed? In your own little private world, nothing could be used as proof.
I mean, on the tracing headers of the nearly 40,000 messages posted in
this group over the past two years not a single one matches any single
line of information with your headers, except for those poster by JC and
numerous other anonymous trolls, and their headers' information match
every single line of yours over and over, plus the fact that you every
once in a while you forget to change your computer settings, and posts
one of your messages under the trolls names, etc, etc. And you still
deny any involvement. What could possibly constitute proof in your planet?
> And remember, you'll have to supply personal data for a 1099.
Now this is the part that shows what an absolute lowlife you really are.
This is the second time you insist on me providing my personal data
for a 1099. It's obvious from your previous posts that you did a search
on me on rec.tial-arts. On several occasions you mentioned my
background in Judo, right after I mentioned that I am a regular in that
group. So you found out about my background in Judo in the same place
you found my posts mentioning the hardships of living in the USA as a
foreigner without a Social Security number. And the moment you read
that, you assumed I'm an illegal alien. Since then you assumed I would
run away the moment my legal status came up, and that's why you keep on
mentioning it every time we have an argument. You have never brought up
anyone's tax status before, and you keep on asking for mine.
Seriously, how much lower could you possibly go? I thought you making
racists comments about me being Brazilian were bad enough, most
specially considering that you're a member of a minority group yourself.
Yet you really managed to scrape the bottom of the barrel this time
around.
And here is the funny part. Even if I did have a SS number, you're the
very last person I would ever trust with my personal information. I
would rather hand over the keys to my home along with my wallet to any
crack addict living in the subway and making a living out of
intimidating others with physical violence than to trust a lowlife like
you with my financial information.
> Money talks and all your bull is irrelevant.
>
> Ed Gin......with a significant financial statement to back up my
> position........
And again you prove what a gutless little scum ball you are. "If you
can't afford as much as I can, then you're wrong" is your official position.
Ed? Johnny? You're scum. And you deserve to be treated as such. Bye.
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Date: 10 May 2005 19:42:05
From:
Subject: Re: Last repose to Ed Gin.
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Joao,
I enjoyed your post,
I saw HEAD Gin today. I should have asked why he hasn't just handed
over the money yet. Understand that Ed talks out both sides of his
mouth. He always has and always will. In one post he claims to be
retired and in another claims to run a business, and he calls you
confused? Now, either Ed runs a business or he is retired. In either
case, it should be obvious that one statement is the truth and the
other is a lie. It doesn't matter which is which. The bottom line is
that these contradictory statements undermine the man's credibility.
Even if Ed were proved to be Johnny NoCom, Ed would stand in judgment
of the conclusiveness of your proof that he would contest as
"irrelevant". You would never see your money, because Ed is not an
honorable man and his word is worthless. It could very well be that Ed
is telling you a half-truth (read half-lie) when he states that he is
not Johnny NoCom, but you can best believe that he is most certainly
part and parcel of the shenanigans and is likely one of the band of
authors to whom he refers. Alan Arial (whose mentality and writing
style is similar to Ed's) is likely another. I'm thinking that the
"authors" probably sit around taking turns on Ed's computer so that
when headers are analyzed, they are only traced back to a single
originating source. Regardless, who really gives a shit about who
these dorks are? We all know what they are and if they were so proud
of what and who they are, then why are they unwilling be forthcoming
and reveal their true identity? Deluded phantoms still, they remain
legends in their own minds, mischievous, unruly children at play who
have nothing better to do with their time than to antagonize the
grownups.
The sum of $10,000 (or was that $10,000 per each alleged NoCom author
... unclear) was set purposefully high so that there would be little
danger that the "fee" would be extorted and Ed would find himself
in the precarious position of having to put up or shut up for a change.
Does Ed expect you to be so foolish as to hand over such a large sum
in payment for the identity of those who have wreaked havoc at ARBR?
What assurance would have that you were not just lied to again, played
for a sucker with all concerned laughing all the way to the bank?
Furthermore, why should these jerks receive monetary benefits in reward
for their objectionable conduct? Does Ed really expect you to buy into
his crap? Of course not. Ed is just playing the game by his own set
of rules. Does Ed expect the readership to be deceived into thinking
that he is sincere and has stepped forward with a challenge that will
leave him exonerated? Perhaps, because that is just how stupid and
foolish he really is. Most of the readers here will see through this
charade as they have his previous ones. Ed just isn't half as bright
or as clever as he thinks he is. My advice would be to ignore the
troll. Ed Gin is not worthy of your attention.
Jim
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Date: 09 May 2005 15:19:40
From: Ed Gin
Subject: Re: Last repose to Ed Gin.
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Joao,
Thank you so much for clarifying why you are so pissed off! Gee Johnny NoCom sure got under you
ass BIGTIME!
You are one confused sick puppy! I run a business and any large dispursements of funds have to be
documented, hence my request for proper ID. After all, prove me to be the author of all those
objectionable posts, and I'll hand over the big bucks. It has nothing to do with your "status" in
this country.
What's all this judo stuff about anyhow? It's about as relevant to this board as "I'm a 8th degree
black belt in Jujutsu?"
The issue I've had with you and the wittchunter's from BROL is accusations regarding Johnny NoCom's
identity.
LISTEN UP JOAO, why don't you come up with the same amount of money and offer it to settle this
issue once and for all?
I've contacted the multiiple parties who AUTHORED the posts the last 4 months and they have ALL
AGREED to accept a minimum of $10,000 to out themselves. And guess what, they WILL supply ID for
a 1099 form so YOU can deduct it from your expenses.
Fair enough? Or you can continue to accuse innocent parties based upon worthless data and
assumptions?
Ed Gin
Joao de Souza wrote:
> For starters, for those of you who missed it, take a look at
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/4fd2b5831ddfd04d?dmode=source
>
> That's a message by Ed Gin, on Ed Gin's own "online voice", signed by
> him, but the "From:" line reads
> "Johnny NoCom <"Johnny NoCom"@bentrideronline.com>"
>
> So I pointed that out to Ed, and after a little back-and-forth he sent
> me a response I just can't resist!
>
> Ed Gin/Johnny Nocom wrote:
> >
> > I've offered a lucrative multi thousand dollar offer to you before.
>
> Yes, you offered to pay me $10,000 dollars if I could find your HOME
> computer at your office. I don't usually say the word "duhhhh" in
> everyday conversation, but this time I just can't find another word that
> fits.
>
> By the way, the phrase "lucrative multi thousand dollar offer" sounds
> like a good percentage of the SPAM messages I receive. Coincidence?
>
> > How about this one? Prove conclusively I am the author of posts as
> > Johnny NoCom and I'll happily hand you $10,000 in USA Dollars.
>
> Ed? In your own little private world, nothing could be used as proof.
> I mean, on the tracing headers of the nearly 40,000 messages posted in
> this group over the past two years not a single one matches any single
> line of information with your headers, except for those poster by JC and
> numerous other anonymous trolls, and their headers' information match
> every single line of yours over and over, plus the fact that you every
> once in a while you forget to change your computer settings, and posts
> one of your messages under the trolls names, etc, etc. And you still
> deny any involvement. What could possibly constitute proof in your planet?
>
> > And remember, you'll have to supply personal data for a 1099.
>
> Now this is the part that shows what an absolute lowlife you really are.
> This is the second time you insist on me providing my personal data
> for a 1099. It's obvious from your previous posts that you did a search
> on me on rec.tial-arts. On several occasions you mentioned my
> background in Judo, right after I mentioned that I am a regular in that
> group. So you found out about my background in Judo in the same place
> you found my posts mentioning the hardships of living in the USA as a
> foreigner without a Social Security number. And the moment you read
> that, you assumed I'm an illegal alien. Since then you assumed I would
> run away the moment my legal status came up, and that's why you keep on
> mentioning it every time we have an argument. You have never brought up
> anyone's tax status before, and you keep on asking for mine.
>
> Seriously, how much lower could you possibly go? I thought you making
> racists comments about me being Brazilian were bad enough, most
> specially considering that you're a member of a minority group yourself.
> Yet you really managed to scrape the bottom of the barrel this time
> around.
>
> And here is the funny part. Even if I did have a SS number, you're the
> very last person I would ever trust with my personal information. I
> would rather hand over the keys to my home along with my wallet to any
> crack addict living in the subway and making a living out of
> intimidating others with physical violence than to trust a lowlife like
> you with my financial information.
>
> > Money talks and all your bull is irrelevant.
> >
> > Ed Gin......with a significant financial statement to back up my
> > position........
>
> And again you prove what a gutless little scum ball you are. "If you
> can't afford as much as I can, then you're wrong" is your official position.
>
> Ed? Johnny? You're scum. And you deserve to be treated as such. Bye.
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