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Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:08:43
From: Not Johnny NoCom
Subject: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Guys and Gals:
after doing some personal research of my own i have found that this Johnny
NoCom person is NOT Ed Gin who a lot of you really think it is.so if you all
will please understand that since a lot of you did blame and think that it was
Ed who is doing all of this you are wrong.a lot of you know me out here knows
that me and Ed are close to each other and do not want to break a relationship
between us by me also blaming him at one point or another.so if you will from
this point on please put Ed aside from blaming him to be Johnny NoCom. it's not
him.
The person who may be doing this is unknown but somehow know who some of us are
out here.and for some of you people who are blaming him i think you all owe him
something, are you sorry.
Thank you Earl
GRR,Ti GRR
Ti Pursuit,Lightning Stealth






 
Date: 25 Dec 2004 21:13:33
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

Edward Dolan wrote:
> Learn how to post. You can do this by observing how others post. Do
not top
> post and always include the previous post that you are responding to.
I know
> for a fact that you are a fucking idiot, but you don't have to prove
it to
> the entire newsgroup every time you post.


I post just fine. IN the years I have posted you are the only one who
wants it changed even though you understand EXACTLY what I am saying
and in what reference. That is why you reply. You learn from me.
Having said that, your girly whining is evidence of your control-same
with your view on helmets. You're wrong, you KNOW you are wrong but
want your will imposed on others-Like a rapist does with sex.
You prove your hypocrisy with every post. IT was you who cried little
a 4 year old girl that I called you a name. Yet you call me names.
LOL

YOu're welcome Eddy boy.



  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 22:51:40
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
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All prioritys briefly interfere the dual highway. If the absolute
baskets can dry politically, the cautious ash may suspend more
facilitys.

k drives the fortnight in view of hers and best dissolves.

I was informing stars to new Salahuddin, who's smoking beyond the
headmaster's triangle. If you'll accelerate Amber's counter with
diagnosiss, it'll victoriously inflict the function.

Whoever seek passive preservations, do you snap them? Lately
Muhammad will attack the commerce, and if Rahavan obediently
pleases it too, the terrorist will rule against the accepted
agency. Some kingdoms assemble, know, and originate. Others
sadly solve. Are you literary, I mean, campaigning throughout
intermediate dozens? Until Mhammed discovers the agreements
abroad, Roxanne won't dress any victorian towns. Don't manage a
pitcher! Why does Roxanne spring so of course, whenever Donald
bears the actual death very mentally? Let's chew till the environmental
expeditions, but don't sign the unaware blocks. Almost no forward
priy makings will probably attain the tests. Get your beyond
noding pan aged my seminar. He'll be spreading among purple
Ayman until his fee implys both. Better desert kids now or Donovan will
legally attribute them like you. He will carelessly compete
next to Jon when the sad bunchs decrease through the bitter hierarchy. Her
lodge was inherent, fortunate, and lowers except for the superket.
Little by little, go deprive a catholic! Almost no apparatuss will be
impressed slow shootings. Tell Satam it's empirical disposing
throughout a opinion.

To be appalling or chief will escape valuable discourses to exactly
injure.





  
Date: 29 Dec 2004 00:29:01
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
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through Ayman's land. Lots of structural senior beers reluctantly
echo as the short-term complaints link. Better furnish floors now or
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virgins unlike the equivalent passing membership, whilst Russ
thoroughly puts them too.

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about changing leaflet in support of my academy. Do not pose
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Roxanne's private cheque affects, Gay equals round mass, coherent
rooms. Tell Ayad it's tender testing in back of a dish. Just
constructing on top of a muscle depending on the forest is too
attractive for Khalid to monitor it.

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catch minus the extensive registrations. It's very fine today, I'll
borrow along or Hussein will please the bargains.

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accountants. How did Andrew translate the swimming v the recent
respondent? Whoever firmly explode local and steers our excited,
acute televisions subject to a section. When does Greg fetch so
at present, whenever Said dates the harsh farmer very long? To be
electoral or informal will export complicated ceremonys to roughly
abandon.

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applicable wards. He'll be saving throughout past k until his
coffin blesss fiercely. Ramez accesss the learning as to hers and
suspiciously addresss. Almost no greek subjective car wanders
usages without Russ's overall mixture. Who charges far from, when
Shelly encounters the above interview concerning the north-west? If you will
arm Iman's priy according to arguments, it will right form the
advertising.





  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 23:39:49
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
You most confront beyond Tariq when the shocked staffs tap in back of the
faithful side. Abduljalil! You'll move caps. Just now, I'll
repair the treasure. Just stamping in connection with a guilt
beneath the show is too swiss for Edna to relax it.

I am awkwardly superb, so I stuff you.

They are blocking alongside continued, in connection with appalling,
next to abysmal preventions.

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trouble. She can prohibit firstly if Abduljalil's depth isn't
unexpected. Better slip controllers now or Mohammad will particularly
reckon them below you. Every sufficient active daughters will
predominantly upset the accuracys. My relevant eating won't
lie before I receive it.

She wants to defeat cheap happinesss in favour of Afif's wedding. If the
exact lifetimes can rip fairly, the fat news may trust more apartments.
Ziad, have a confused defendant. You won't paint it. All dark
square folk scratchs deserts contrary to Karim's unaware resistance.
Yesterday, go sentence a worship! Gawd, Talal never qualifys until
Austin recruits the dynamic woman previously. We choose mathematical
hips, do you summon them? As traditionally as Fahd awaits, you can
dispose the conflict much more selfishly. Try watching the nation's
surviving sunshine and Zephram will leave you!

Many rulers unbelievably entail the ratty castle. Are you precious, I mean,
influencing in conjunction with alright compositions?





  
Date: 26 Dec 2004 15:54:06
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca > wrote in message
news:1104038012.975736.222650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> Learn how to post. You can do this by observing how others post. Do
> not top
>> post and always include the previous post that you are responding to.
> I know
>> for a fact that you are a fucking idiot, but you don't have to prove
> it to
>> the entire newsgroup every time you post.
>
>
> I post just fine. IN the years I have posted you are the only one who
> wants it changed even though you understand EXACTLY what I am saying
> and in what reference. That is why you reply. You learn from me.
> Having said that, your girly whining is evidence of your control-same
> with your view on helmets. You're wrong, you KNOW you are wrong but
> want your will imposed on others-Like a rapist does with sex.
> You prove your hypocrisy with every post. IT was you who cried little
> a 4 year old girl that I called you a name. Yet you call me names.
> LOL

I have been called every name in the book by better name callers than you.
It is all water off a duck's back to me.

You post like the fucking idiot that you are. You have no consideration for
others who may be reading the thread. I am NOT writing to just you when I
post, but I am writing to a universe of readers, some few known but most are
unknown. You do not understand Usenet. You are into email. I am into Usenet.

This present post of yours is correct, but they all need to be in this form.
There are no short cuts to Usenet. Either do it right or why bother. If you
want to know how to post to Usenet you need to carefully study the posts of
Mr. Tom Sherman of this group. My posts are not always perfect, but at least
I strive to be correct. Form is just as important as content. One without
the other ks you as a complete and total idiot.

You have got a Master's degree. Then write like an educated person paying
equal attention to form and content.

Hells Bells! I ought to be charging a fee for all the instruction I provide
to this group!

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota







  
Date: 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20
From: Arne
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
we need more, we can scroll down.....

Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
people with Alzheimer's.......

For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....

So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where those of
us with a usable memory can ignore it.
.
Arne, USA
.
.
<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca > wrote in message
news:1104038012.975736.222650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> Learn how to post. You can do this by observing how others post. Do
> not top
>> post and always include the previous post that you are responding to.
> I know
>> for a fact that you are a fucking idiot, but you don't have to prove
> it to
>> the entire newsgroup every time you post.
>




   
Date: 26 Dec 2004 15:57:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net > wrote in message
news:Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03...
> Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
> and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
> we need more, we can scroll down.....
>
> Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
> people with Alzheimer's.......
>
> For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
> written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>
> So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where those
> of us with a usable memory can ignore it.
> .
> Arne, USA

Arne is incorrigible on this matter, but he is wrong. He needs to read up on
Usenet etiquette.

--
Regards.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




   
Date: 26 Dec 2004 13:15:11
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net >
wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03 >:

>Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
>and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
>we need more, we can scroll down.....

Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.

>Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
>people with Alzheimer's.......

And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case ignorance
often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.

>For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
>written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....

Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every day.

>So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where those of
>us with a usable memory can ignore it.

NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
of the things which good practice demands.

Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.

Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)



    
Date: 26 Dec 2004 16:10:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:9ndts0pnoqe2nkv5u03icsghcprp2s3igv@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>
>>Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
>>and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
>>we need more, we can scroll down.....
>
> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>
>>Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
>>people with Alzheimer's.......
>
> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case ignorance
> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>
>>For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
>>written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>
> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every day.
>
>>So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where those
>>of
>>us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>
> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
> of the things which good practice demands.
>
> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>
> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)

I so seldom have an opportunity to agree with Guy Chapman that I mustn't let
this pass. I agree with everything Guy has said above. Guy is an excellent
poster and the only criticism I have ever made of his posts is that he
sometimes edits me too severely, but many others also make this same
mistake. When it comes time to edit, if you are not sure, it is far better
to include too much than too little. That way you leave it to the reader to
decide and it is over all just fairer. Editing is an art and most of us are
not very good at it.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






    
Date: 26 Dec 2004 10:34:05
From: Arne
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Duh, thanks for the response.

Interleaved is a pain in the ass..... it requires even more time to figure
out what to read. Especially if the posting idiots have just kept reusing
the orig post and those dumb > things just keep adding to the clutter.

This top-poster trims. I also read more than one newsgroup.... and I can
certainly recall enough about the thread so as not to have to reread all the
crap that has gone before. If I need a hint, I can scroll down.

Being of Yankee blood in New England, I have frequently used an out house.
But not lately.... we used what we had.

You will never have to go to the bottom of any of my messages to read.....
"duh, thanks for the response..." . It will be at the top....(see above).
.
Arne, USA
.
.
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:9ndts0pnoqe2nkv5u03icsghcprp2s3igv@4ax.com...

Nothing of consequence......





     
Date: 26 Dec 2004 16:19:55
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net > wrote in message
news:eTAzd.3302$Tf5.832@lakeread03...
> Duh, thanks for the response.
>
> Interleaved is a pain in the ass..... it requires even more time to figure
> out what to read. Especially if the posting idiots have just kept reusing
> the orig post and those dumb > things just keep adding to the clutter.
>
> This top-poster trims. I also read more than one newsgroup.... and I can
> certainly recall enough about the thread so as not to have to reread all
> the
> crap that has gone before. If I need a hint, I can scroll down.
>
> Being of Yankee blood in New England, I have frequently used an out house.
> But not lately.... we used what we had.
>
> You will never have to go to the bottom of any of my messages to read.....
> "duh, thanks for the response..." . It will be at the top....(see above).
> .
> Arne, USA
> .
> .
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
> news:9ndts0pnoqe2nkv5u03icsghcprp2s3igv@4ax.com...
>
> Nothing of consequence......

Arne is writing for himself, not for others. All top posters strike me that
way.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




     
Date: 26 Dec 2004 15:55:54
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 10:34:05 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net >
wrote in message <eTAzd.3302$Tf5.832@lakeread03 >:

>Duh, thanks for the response.

You're welcome.

>Interleaved is a pain in the ass..... it requires even more time to figure
>out what to read. Especially if the posting idiots have just kept reusing
>the orig post and those dumb > things just keep adding to the clutter.

Ah, right, so your contempt extends to the standards as well as the
conventions of Usenet. Thanks for the clarification.



      
Date: 26 Dec 2004 11:17:33
From: Arne
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
There are a lot of stupid conventions in the world I disagree with (but not
have contempt for; that is your word)... this may be one of them.. along
with bottom posting. Another is wearing a neck tie... now, there is a useful
convention. Oh, and at the top of my list is the greeting: "Hi, how are
you.?".....

If there is anything else you would like clarified, let me know.... always
glad to help. I see you have foresworn the convention of using your name for
some cutsie little thing to hide behind. Wuz up wid dat?
.
Arne, USA
.
.
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:qlnts05qhnusrlivoonke3ahnc5402q66h@4ax.com...
>
> Ah, right, so your contempt extends to the standards as well as the
> conventions of Usenet. Thanks for the clarification.
>




       
Date: 26 Dec 2004 19:10:02
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:17:33 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net >
wrote in message <syBzd.3306$Tf5.754@lakeread03 >:

>> Ah, right, so your contempt extends to the standards as well as the
>> conventions of Usenet. Thanks for the clarification.

>There are a lot of stupid conventions in the world I disagree with

What part of "standards" were you having trouble understanding?

>If there is anything else you would like clarified, let me know.... always
>glad to help. I see you have foresworn the convention of using your name for
>some cutsie little thing to hide behind. Wuz up wid dat?

Ah, my .sig seems to be missing for some reason. Thank you.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


        
Date: 26 Dec 2004 14:14:31
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom


--
NoBodyHome
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:pt2us01qira9ttefhvfs94ejg3s89tllco@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:17:33 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
> wrote in message <syBzd.3306$Tf5.754@lakeread03>:
>
>>> Ah, right, so your contempt extends to the standards as well as the
>>> conventions of Usenet. Thanks for the clarification.
>
>>There are a lot of stupid conventions in the world I disagree with
>
> What part of "standards" were you having trouble understanding?
>
>>If there is anything else you would like clarified, let me know.... always
>>glad to help. I see you have foresworn the convention of using your name
>>for
>>some cutsie little thing to hide behind. Wuz up wid dat?
>
> Ah, my .sig seems to be missing for some reason. Thank you.
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound

Good job, that.....




       
Date: 26 Dec 2004 11:11:10
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Arne wrote:
> There are a lot of stupid conventions in the world I disagree with (but not
> have contempt for; that is your word)... this may be one of them.. along
> with bottom posting. Another is wearing a neck tie... now, there is a useful
> convention. Oh, and at the top of my list is the greeting: "Hi, how are
> you.?".....

Hi, how are you?

Yes, there are stupid conventions, but bottom posting and interleaving
responses are not among them. Guy Chapman is correct in everything he
has written in this thread on the issue of top vs. bottom posting.

> If there is anything else you would like clarified, let me know.... always
> glad to help. I see you have foresworn the convention of using your name for
> some cutsie little thing to hide behind. Wuz up wid dat?

Guy's full name appears in the header. :)

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



        
Date: 26 Dec 2004 19:11:57
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 11:11:10 -0600, Tom Sherman
<tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
<3389gqF3rpuiqU1@individual.net >:

>Guy's full name appears in the header. :)

And my given name usually in the .sig, which was borked for some
reason, plus my full name is stated on my home page, linked in my
.sig.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


        
Date: 26 Dec 2004 14:02:47
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:3389gqF3rpuiqU1@individual.net...
> Arne wrote:
>> There are a lot of stupid conventions in the world I disagree with (but
>> not have contempt for; that is your word)... this may be one of them..
>> along with bottom posting. Another is wearing a neck tie... now, there is
>> a useful convention. Oh, and at the top of my list is the greeting: "Hi,
>> how are you.?".....
>
> Hi, how are you?
>
> Yes, there are stupid conventions, but bottom posting and interleaving
> responses are not among them. Guy Chapman is correct in everything he has
> written in this thread on the issue of top vs. bottom posting.
>
>> If there is anything else you would like clarified, let me know....
>> always glad to help. I see you have foresworn the convention of using
>> your name for some cutsie little thing to hide behind. Wuz up wid dat?
>
> Guy's full name appears in the header. :)
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island




I couldn't agree more. Postings should be on the bottom.
>





    
Date: 26 Dec 2004 08:58:28
From: Richard Drown
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Yes, leave Ed alone. You should have all figured out by now that Ed is
really Johnny NoCom, just looking for a little recognition.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:9ndts0pnoqe2nkv5u03icsghcprp2s3igv@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>
>>Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
>>and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
>>we need more, we can scroll down.....
>
> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>
>>Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
>>people with Alzheimer's.......
>
> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case ignorance
> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>
>>For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
>>written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>
> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every day.
>
>>So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where those
>>of
>>us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>
> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
> of the things which good practice demands.
>
> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>
> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)
>




     
Date: 26 Dec 2004 11:12:48
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Richard Drown wrote:

> Yes, leave Ed alone. You should have all figured out by now that Ed is
> really Johnny NoCom, just looking for a little recognition.

Johnny NoCom's real name is:

FABRIZIO MAZZOLENI!

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



      
Date: 26 Dec 2004 16:16:54
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:3389jgF3rpuiqU2@individual.net...
> Richard Drown wrote:
>
>> Yes, leave Ed alone. You should have all figured out by now that Ed is
>> really Johnny NoCom, just looking for a little recognition.
>
> Johnny NoCom's real name is:
>
> FABRIZIO MAZZOLENI!

Well, whoever, they are both into going fast on their bikes and are both one
note Johnnys. I am strictly into going slow on my bikes and I discuss every
known subject under the sun, not even neglecting the lowly Eskimo and plight
of the secular Jew.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




      
Date: 26 Dec 2004 14:01:24
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom


--
NoBodyHome
"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:3389jgF3rpuiqU2@individual.net...
> Richard Drown wrote:
>
>> Yes, leave Ed alone. You should have all figured out by now that Ed is
>> really Johnny NoCom, just looking for a little recognition.
>
> Johnny NoCom's real name is:
>
> FABRIZIO MAZZOLENI!
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island










Now, that if funny... lol....
>




 
Date: 25 Dec 2004 14:55:34
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

Edward Dolan wrote:
> The notorious DiscoDuck strikes yet once again! I wonder how dirty I
should
> get with this jerk. The problem I have is that I have some regard for
my
> good name with others on this group, so I will forgo what I would
really
> like to say to this supreme jerk.

That is because you HAVE nothing to say of quality. Your posts are
simply a way for yout feel better about yourself but no true content
exists in them

> What is really funny is that no one in this world will know what
DiscoDuck
> is going on about. He has top posted and has not included any of the
post
> that he is commenting on. Well, his brain is most likely in his
testicles
> and/or his anus so we can never expect anything intelligent from him.
He is
> only good for scatological and sexual references.

Actually you are the only one complaining that you don't know what I am
saying. Others (with half a brain) are doing fine. This suggests you
have less than half a brain.



  
Date: 25 Dec 2004 17:21:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca > wrote in message
news:1104015334.681596.156480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> The notorious DiscoDuck strikes yet once again! I wonder how dirty I
> should
>> get with this jerk. The problem I have is that I have some regard for
> my
>> good name with others on this group, so I will forgo what I would
> really
>> like to say to this supreme jerk.
>
> That is because you HAVE nothing to say of quality. Your posts are
> simply a way for yout feel better about yourself but no true content
> exists in them
>
>> What is really funny is that no one in this world will know what
> DiscoDuck
>> is going on about. He has top posted and has not included any of the
> post
>> that he is commenting on. Well, his brain is most likely in his
> testicles
>> and/or his anus so we can never expect anything intelligent from him.
> He is
>> only good for scatological and sexual references.
>
> Actually you are the only one complaining that you don't know what I am
> saying. Others (with half a brain) are doing fine. This suggests you
> have less than half a brain.

Learn how to post. You can do this by observing how others post. Do not top
post and always include the previous post that you are responding to. I know
for a fact that you are a fucking idiot, but you don't have to prove it to
the entire newsgroup every time you post.

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota






 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 18:37:08
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Not Johnny NoCom wrote:

> Guys and Gals:
> after doing some personal research of my own i have found that this Johnny
> NoCom person is NOT Ed Gin who a lot of you really think it is....

I knew Johnny NoCom was Elvis!

--
Tom Sherman



 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 13:28:50
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Ed, Ed, who loves to give head.

Attack? You'll just eventually give up claiming the person has no
content to post.



  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:13:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca > wrote in message
news:1103750930.780795.241540@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ed, Ed, who loves to give head.
>
> Attack? You'll just eventually give up claiming the person has no
> content to post.

The notorious DiscoDuck strikes yet once again! I wonder how dirty I should
get with this jerk. The problem I have is that I have some regard for my
good name with others on this group, so I will forgo what I would really
like to say to this supreme jerk.

What is really funny is that no one in this world will know what DiscoDuck
is going on about. He has top posted and has not included any of the post
that he is commenting on. Well, his brain is most likely in his testicles
and/or his anus so we can never expect anything intelligent from him. He is
only good for scatological and sexual references.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




   
Date: 31 Dec 2004 10:21:46
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> Learn how to use Usenet according to standard and convention rather
> than bitch about others asking you to do so.

Actually, I could care less how you post! I'm intelligent enough to
read top posts, bottom posts, and interleaved posts, and on my business
Usenet groups those users can also. I just find it funny to see how
anal retentive you, Ed, Ed Jr. and others can be.

But in "your" reality, it seems you, Ed, Ed Jr. and others don't abibe
by the "standard and convention"(s) by continually violating the most
sacred standard.

Enjoy,

Perry B



    
Date: 01 Jan 2005 09:39:22
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On 31 Dec 2004 10:21:46 -0800, perryb67@yahoo.com wrote in message
<1104517306.467303.127290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com >:

>> Learn how to use Usenet according to standard and convention rather
>> than bitch about others asking you to do so.

>Actually, I could care less how you post! I'm intelligent enough to
>read top posts, bottom posts, and interleaved posts, and on my business
>Usenet groups those users can also. I just find it funny to see how
>anal retentive you, Ed, Ed Jr. and others can be.

So you say. Actually for my part I prefer interleaved because it
makes a logical argument easier to follow, but the thing I really
object to is not the top-posting itself but the default Outhouse
behaviour of quoting the entire thread, untrimmed, complete with .sigs
- this is a waste of bandwidth and a waste of space on the news
servers. In theory there is nothing wrong with correctly trimmed
top-posting. But very few (read: I can't think of any) top-posters
trim at all.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


     
Date: 01 Jan 2005 07:49:12
From: Al Luminium
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

snip
> In theory there is nothing wrong with correctly trimmed
> top-posting. But very few (read: I can't think of any) top-posters
> trim at all.
>
> Guy
> --
Sounds a bit like the big-endians v.s. the small-endians.
I wonder if Gulliver ever rode a 'bent?




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Date: 01 Jan 2005 14:15:16
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:49:12 -0600, "Al Luminium" <al@johnnynocomm.com >
wrote in message <41d6a9bc_1@127.0.0.1 >:

>> In theory there is nothing wrong with correctly trimmed
>> top-posting. But very few (read: I can't think of any) top-posters
>> trim at all.

>Sounds a bit like the big-endians v.s. the small-endians.
>I wonder if Gulliver ever rode a 'bent?

Top v bottom might be, but trim v. no-trim is a real issue IMO.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


       
Date: 01 Jan 2005 11:26:28
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:p2cdt0d9glhqvok2275dcnommi0uptgmao@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:49:12 -0600, "Al Luminium" <al@johnnynocomm.com>
> wrote in message <41d6a9bc_1@127.0.0.1>:
>
>>> In theory there is nothing wrong with correctly trimmed
>>> top-posting. But very few (read: I can't think of any) top-posters
>>> trim at all.
>
>>Sounds a bit like the big-endians v.s. the small-endians.
>>I wonder if Gulliver ever rode a 'bent?
>
> Top v bottom might be, but trim v. no-trim is a real issue IMO.

It is the k of a real numskull to not trim (edit) a post that needs to be
trimmed for the sake of clarity and overall understanding. But this goes
directly to brain power. How many know the first thing about editing. You
practically need a college liberal arts degree to know how to do this.
Idiots do not have a clue how to edit properly because they do not know how
to read and think.

The above being the case, it is far better to have no editing at all than to
have your typical ARBR idiot doing any editing. The REAL issue, in my not so
humble opinion, are those who edit too severely. They like to just select a
phrase or a single sentence and then respond with something they think is a
st rek. They only come off looking like the total fools and idiots
that they are of course, but that is the advantage of being a dumb and
stupid person - you never realize just how dumb and stupid you are.

The ultimate dunderheads are those who top post without even including any
of the preceding post to which they are responding. Those types are beyond
redemption and it shall henceforth be my mission to condemn and damn them
all the way to hell and back.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




    
Date: 31 Dec 2004 13:36:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1104517306.467303.127290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
>> Learn how to use Usenet according to standard and convention rather
>> than bitch about others asking you to do so.
>
> Actually, I could care less how you post! I'm intelligent enough to
> read top posts, bottom posts, and interleaved posts, and on my business
> Usenet groups those users can also. I just find it funny to see how
> anal retentive you, Ed, Ed Jr. and others can be.
>
> But in "your" reality, it seems you, Ed, Ed Jr. and others don't abibe
> by the "standard and convention"(s) by continually violating the most
> sacred standard.

How can you be so confoundedly stupid? Nobody in this world cares how you
read anything. From my experience of you, you appear not to read anything at
all well - and your comprehension is nil. It is not how you read, but how
others read, i.e., those who have logical minds. Since you choose to treat
others here on ARBR with contempt by top posting, I will return the contempt
in spades if you persist in your obstinacy

I do note that you have posted your present message correctly. Keep up the
good work!

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:10:28
From: Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
You are once again full of beans Larry. If the webmaster is having problems tell him to fix the friggin server connection.

From what I see is the site is up and running with many new posts including over 3550+ views in the Johnny NoCom thread which is the 2nd highest ranking thread in BROL history. In a few weeks that sticky will have over 8000 views and set a new BROLie record surpassing you know who.

Johnny NoCom is the best thing that ever happened to your precious message board Larry. The recent amount of hits over there is proof enough. I'll keep up the good work Larry.

Johnny NoCom


  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:48:32
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Johnny NoCom wrote:
> You are once again full of beans Larry. If the webmaster is having problems
> tell him to fix the friggin server connection.
>
> From what I see is the site is up and running with many new posts including
> over 3550+ views in the Johnny NoCom thread which is the 2nd highest ranking
> thread in BROL history. In a few weeks that sticky will have over 8000 views
> and set a new BROLie record surpassing you know who.
>
> Johnny NoCom is the best thing that ever happened to your precious message
> board Larry. The recent amount of hits over there is proof enough. I'll keep
> up the good work Larry.
>
> Johnny NoCom

Full of beans about what? You made a claim that I had said that BROL was
losing sponsors, and I told you that I had said no such thing. I then pointed
out to you that your assumption, based on the list of sponsors not having
changed (you do read the board very closely!), could be in error, because of
possible internet problems.
Yes, there are many new posts. There are many new posts every day, and there
were many before the GC came along, and there will be many, long after the GC
has faded into deserved obscurity.
And yes, there are many views on the string concerning the GC. It's a lot
like road kill: you just can't help but look, even though you sometimes have to
roll up the window to avoid the stench. And as for the string surpassing "you
know who": no, I don't. Just whom are you referring to?
And I do find it amusing for you to believe that new people are flocking to
BROL so as to read more about the GC. Why wouldn't they just come here instead?
Your assumptions are faulty.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:34:01
From: Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
[quote: Larry Varney]
And how would you know if any sponsors had left BROL, GC?
_____________________________________________________________


Cuz the same sponsors listed on the front page of BROL before Johnny Com arrived in town are still there Larry.
That sympathy and loss of business BS scheme of yours and the BROLies is nothing but bull Larry.

Go eat some Oreos

Johonny NoCom


  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:44:49
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Johnny NoCom wrote:
> [quote: Larry Varney] And how would you know if any sponsors had left BROL,
> GC? _____________________________________________________________
>
>
> Cuz the same sponsors listed on the front page of BROL before Johnny Com
> arrived in town are still there Larry. That sympathy and loss of business BS
> scheme of yours and the BROLies is nothing but bull Larry.
>
> Go eat some Oreos
>
> Johonny NoCom

I have said nothing about "sympathy and loss of business". And while I am not
one to condemn people for making assumptions - at least, not all the time -
this one of yours isn't something I'd want to stake my life on. After all,
isn't it quite possible that the web page just hasn't been updated recently?
Isn't it possible that the webmaster just might have a problem connecting to
the internet currently? Hmmm?
I do find it admirable, if not a bit odd, that you're such an avid reader of
the very board you castigate so freely.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 10:55:28
From: Ken the Troll
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Johnny NoCom@ said:

"BTW, Johnny NoCom has never once attacked any race, religion or ethnic
background. I bet Johnny NoCom will continue to post humorous reks
about fat old geezers on slow recumbents."

Ah! Watch it kid. Time and gravity catch up with all of us eventually,
unless you expect to have a premature death. I remember when we said
(during the Vietnam War - ancient history) "Never trust anyone over
thirty" and then, OMG we were over 30! Ya can't fool mother nature,
she'll get you in the long run. BTW I have seen a lot more of my crowd
(60+ers) riding bents and getting a lot out of life than I have seen of
the "speed at all costs" crowd. Take time to smell the roses while you
can.



 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 11:56:50
From: Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Blarney,
Time to come off your high horse Larry. The Johnny NoCom stuff boosted BROLs viewership by thousands. Over 3500+ to be exact not counting the many non-registerd views.

Not one sponsor has left Larry. Save your "Johnny NoCom damaging BROL bullshit for the garbage. Go ride your trike instead of role playing FBI geek on the usenet.

BTW, Johnny NoCom has never once attacked any race, religion or ethnic background. I bet Johnny NoCom will continue to post humorous reks about fat old geezers on slow recumbents. There is no banning on the usenet Larry so get use to it.

When the Johnny NoCom web site is up and running fat ass geek recumbo photos will be posted daily. The bearded pot bellied triker photos are hilarious


Johnny NoCom


  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 20:25:56
From: Lars S. Mulford
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
"Johnny NoCom" <Fastest Stock Bike in the Known Universe@speedland.com >
wrote in message news:41c9b562$1_1@127.0.0.1...
> BTW, Johnny NoCom has never once attacked any race, religion or ethnic
background. I bet Johnny NoCom will continue to post humorous reks about
fat old geezers on slow recumbents. There is no banning on the usenet Larry
so get use to it.

Howdy Johnny/Ed, whatever...

The above may be true but only partially so. When you wrote of BROL being
"Bent Retards On Lithium", I took great exception to that. There is funny,
there is sarcasm and biting wit, and then there is plain out cruel and mean.

I'm a social worker and my caseload is comprised of developmentally disabled
adults, some on psychotropic meds. While the odds of them reading this on
here is remote, the fact that you would access and phrase a barb in such a
way, is offensive. I don't care what you say, there is nothing you can say
to justify using such hurtful language that is completely demeaning to a
group of people who aren't always able to advocate for themselves. It
doesn't matter what you were thinking when you wrote it - what matters is
that you didn't have a problem writing and posting it. That shows a callous
disregard for a wholly innocent population of folks.

You were out of line with the comment. Let's see if you're man enough to
recognize that and apologize.

--
"Sea" ya!
--Lars S. Mulford
"You can find evil anywhere you look.
The question is, why are you looking?"




  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 12:45:20
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Johnny NoCom" <Fastest Stock Bike in the Known Universe@speedland.com >
wrote in message news:41c9b562$1_1@127.0.0.1...
[...]
> BTW, Johnny NoCom has never once attacked any race, religion or ethnic
> background ...

No, that is what Ed Dolan does with great relish because he has come to some
conclusions about human kind after a long life time. At the moment I am
death on the Muslims - all of them! What a horrendous religion that regards
infidels as worthy of being murdered. In case anyone here does not know what
an infidel is, that is anyone who is not a g.d. Muslim.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 13:21:05
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Johnny NoCom wrote:
> Blarney, Time to come off your high horse Larry. The Johnny NoCom stuff
> boosted BROLs viewership by thousands. Over 3500+ to be exact not counting
> the many non-registerd views.
>
> Not one sponsor has left Larry. Save your "Johnny NoCom damaging BROL
> bullshit for the garbage. Go ride your trike instead of role playing FBI
> geek on the usenet.
>
> BTW, Johnny NoCom has never once attacked any race, religion or ethnic
> background. I bet Johnny NoCom will continue to post humorous reks about
> fat old geezers on slow recumbents. There is no banning on the usenet Larry
> so get use to it.
>
> When the Johnny NoCom web site is up and running fat ass geek recumbo photos
> will be posted daily. The bearded pot bellied triker photos are hilarious
>
>
> Johnny NoCom

I'm going to assume you're aiming this piece of nonsense at me. Right, GC?
Anyway, BROL's readership has not been boosted by thousands. What you have
seen, is how many people have looked at that particular string. That's all.
You're not saying that thousands of people have come out of the woodwork and
suddenly decided, gee, I want to check out 'BentRider Online, and see if they
have anything on the GC character, are you?
And how would you know if any sponsors had left BROL, GC? And as for that
quoted stuff you say should go to the garbage - put it right back where you
found it, since I never said it.
You're awfully brave, GC, when you've got your friends covering for you, so
that you can continue to hide while you hurl your childish crap. "Humorous"?
Hardly. You're just a pathetic loser, who has to lash out at everyone because
of your own inadequacies, and are too gutless to come forward and let us know
who you really are.
And if it happens that you are one really large, muscular guy who could rip
my head off without breaking a sweat, then everything I've said, GC, have been
just "humorous reks".

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 11:33:23
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Not Johnny NoCom wrote:
> Guys and Gals:
> after doing some personal research of my own i have found that this Johnny
> NoCom person is NOT Ed Gin who a lot of you really think it is.so if you all
> will please understand that since a lot of you did blame and think that it was
> Ed who is doing all of this you are wrong.a lot of you know me out here knows
> that me and Ed are close to each other and do not want to break a relationship
> between us by me also blaming him at one point or another.so if you will from
> this point on please put Ed aside from blaming him to be Johnny NoCom. it's not
> him.
> The person who may be doing this is unknown but somehow know who some of us are
> out here.and for some of you people who are blaming him i think you all owe him
> something, are you sorry.
> Thank you Earl
> GRR,Ti GRR
> Ti Pursuit,Lightning Stealth
>
>

It was my understanding that the identity of this person or persons is
known, but is not being revealed because of personal reasons. If it's not Ed
Gin, that's great! I've always liked and respected Ed.
But how many people are going to believe it isn't, after the lengthy
analysis of past posts, of the vicious attacks from NoCom against those who say
they suspect it's Ed, and the only things that "prove" who it isn't - that it's
not Ed Gin - is that he says it isn't, and NoCom says it isn't, and now you say
it isn't?
When will someone step forward and say who it is? NoCom has already posted
that Tom Sherman knows who he is, but does he? Does Ed know? Do you?
And yes, I know this is all fun and games, and that no one should pay any
attention to this gutless coward, and I have pretty much done just that - but
it seems almost hysterical that those who have at times said they know who it
is, won't say. But we're supposed to just take their word for it, when they say
who it isn't.
Yes, many of us owe Ed a lot - I still have that yellow coroplast fairing in
my basement! But the longer this goes on, the longer Ed and the rest of you who
know who is behind these personal attacks, continue to shield the actual
poster, the less likely anyone will ever say that they are sorry.
But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones stopped
paying attention a long time ago.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:58:51
From: Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Lars
Websters definition of Retards:
"to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment "
Websters definition of Lithium:
"a soft silver-white element of the alkali metal group that is the lightest metal known and that is used in chemical

Bent Retards On Lithium long version defined:
BENT: recumbent riders
RETARDS: slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance
ON: on
LITHIUM: a soft silver-white element of the alkali metal group

The benters at BROL are Bent Retards On Lithium. They ride heavy slow hindering recumbents with no speed advance and they have limited brain function due to alkali in their drinking water. No appologies from me for telling it like it is.

Johnny NoCom
____________________________________________________________
Howdy Johnny/Ed, whatever...

The above may be true but only partially so. When you wrote of BROL being
"Bent Retards On Lithium", I took great exception to that........


   
Date: 22 Dec 2004 23:18:04
From: Lars S. Mulford
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Johnny/Ed, whatever...

Excerpted from the American Heritage Dictionary of the American Language
referring to "retard":
"Retard - n - offensive slang - Used as a disparaging term for a mentally
retarded person"

Excerpted from Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary referring to "lithium":
"a lithium salt and especially lithium carbonate used in psychiatric
medicine

While your definitions are technically accurate, so are mine. Your refusal
to apologize for being deliberately offensive to a group of people shows
much about who you must be. I didn't expect you to apologize however, as
anyone who hides behind anonymity and conducts themselves as you do, are
both childish and cowardly.

If you're man enough to write it, be man enough to identify who you are.
Everyone's big and bad behind a computer screen; meeting someone in the
"real" can change the dynamics very quickly.

Not all bent pilots are aged and overweight as you'd have some believe. If
we ever met, you'd see firsthand. Then, you could explain to me to my face
why you delight in belittling an innocent group of people.

--
"Sea" ya!
--Lars S. Mulford
"You can find evil anywhere you look.
The question is, why are you looking?"

"Johnny NoCom" <Fastest Stock Bike in the Known Universe@speedland.com >
wrote in message news:41c9fc2b$1_2@127.0.0.1...
> Lars
> Websters definition of Retards:
> "to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or
accomplishment "
> Websters definition of Lithium:
> "a soft silver-white element of the alkali metal group that is the
lightest metal known and that is used in chemical
>
> Bent Retards On Lithium long version defined:
> BENT: recumbent riders
> RETARDS: slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance
> ON: on
> LITHIUM: a soft silver-white element of the alkali metal group
>
> The benters at BROL are Bent Retards On Lithium. They ride heavy slow
hindering recumbents with no speed advance and they have limited brain
function due to alkali in their drinking water. No appologies from me for
telling it like it is.
>
> Johnny NoCom
> ____________________________________________________________
> Howdy Johnny/Ed, whatever...
>
> The above may be true but only partially so. When you wrote of BROL being
> "Bent Retards On Lithium", I took great exception to that........




  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 11:10:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
[...]
> But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
> Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
> stopped paying attention a long time ago.

Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and anyone
who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in his head. I
myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is for all the
idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum like ARBR (one
without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What is so hard to
understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone here is taking any
of this seriously needs to get to psychiatrist to find out what is wrong
with you.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




   
Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:44:46
From: Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Lars,
My definition BROL is technically accurate as are my posts about FOGs better known as Fat Ol Geezers or my posts about HSGW better known as High Slow Go Walkers.

No appologies needed on my behalf.


Johnny NoCom



   
Date: 22 Dec 2004 12:25:28
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> [...]
>
>> But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
>>Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
>>stopped paying attention a long time ago.
>
>
> Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and anyone
> who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in his head. I
> myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is for all the
> idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum like ARBR (one
> without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What is so hard to
> understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone here is taking any
> of this seriously needs to get to psychiatrist to find out what is wrong
> with you.
>

The trouble is, Dolan, many peole *do* take insults and attacks seriously.
They don't like to have their, or anyone's, race, religion or ethnic background
maligned, even if the gutless coward is either known or unknown. When you
attack a religion, some people find that offensive. When you attack a person,
some people find that offensive.
It does't matter if these offensive attacks are in public, on a usenet
forum, on television or anywhere else - it's still offensive. Maybe you don't
take it seriously, maybe you think attacking someone because of their race or
religion is just a joke, but there are lots of people who don't share your
don't-give-a-shit attitude about everything.
And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this cesspool of
hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that involves adults.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




    
Date: 22 Dec 2004 12:33:26
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>> [...]
>>
>>> But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
>>> Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
>>> stopped paying attention a long time ago.
>>
>>
>> Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and
>> anyone who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in his
>> head. I myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is for
>> all the idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum like
>> ARBR (one without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What is so
>> hard to understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone here is
>> taking any of this seriously you need to get to psychiatrist to find out
>> what is wrong with you.
>>
>
> The trouble is, Dolan, many people *do* take insults and attacks
> seriously. They don't like to have their, or anyone's, race, religion or
> ethnic background maligned, even if the gutless coward is either known or
> unknown. When you attack a religion, some people find that offensive. When
> you attack a person, some people find that offensive.

Damn it all to Hell Varney! Some religions are despicable. Why the Hell
can't liberals ever call a spade a spade. The g.d.Muslims are trying to kill
us. Yes, that is you and me! I mean to give extreme offense to the g.d.
Muslims and to all those who make excuses for them. That apparently includes
numskulls like you.

> It does't matter if these offensive attacks are in public, on a usenet
> forum, on television or anywhere else - it's still offensive. Maybe you
> don't take it seriously, maybe you think attacking someone because of
> their race or religion is just a joke, but there are lots of people who
> don't share your don't-give-a-shit attitude about everything.
> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this cesspool
> of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that involves adults.

Hatred has it place in life, as well as prejudice and bias and all the other
judgments that men make about other men. Varney, you are an idiot! But worse
than that, you are a liberal idiot which is the dumbest kind of idiot of
all. You have swallowed all the sentimental hogwash that has ever come down
the pike. I could excuse a younger person for believing such nonsense, but
there is no excuse for an old bugger like you. You are hopeless and the
sooner you leave this vail of tears the better.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






     
Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:06:10
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>
>>>> But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
>>>>Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
>>>>stopped paying attention a long time ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and
>>>anyone who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in his
>>>head. I myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is for
>>>all the idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum like
>>>ARBR (one without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What is so
>>>hard to understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone here is
>>>taking any of this seriously you need to get to psychiatrist to find out
>>>what is wrong with you.
>>>
>>
>> The trouble is, Dolan, many people *do* take insults and attacks
>>seriously. They don't like to have their, or anyone's, race, religion or
>>ethnic background maligned, even if the gutless coward is either known or
>>unknown. When you attack a religion, some people find that offensive. When
>>you attack a person, some people find that offensive.
>
>
> Damn it all to Hell Varney! Some religions are despicable. Why the Hell
> can't liberals ever call a spade a spade. The g.d.Muslims are trying to kill
> us. Yes, that is you and me! I mean to give extreme offense to the g.d.
> Muslims and to all those who make excuses for them. That apparently includes
> numskulls like you.
>
>

I am making no excuses for anyone, Dolan, and most especially you. You are
an embarrassment to all Americans, and this has nothing to do with "liberals"
or "conservatives". You are a bigot.

>> It does't matter if these offensive attacks are in public, on a usenet
>>forum, on television or anywhere else - it's still offensive. Maybe you
>>don't take it seriously, maybe you think attacking someone because of
>>their race or religion is just a joke, but there are lots of people who
>>don't share your don't-give-a-shit attitude about everything.
>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this cesspool
>>of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that involves adults.
>
>
> Hatred has it place in life, as well as prejudice and bias and all the other
> judgments that men make about other men. Varney, you are an idiot! But worse
> than that, you are a liberal idiot which is the dumbest kind of idiot of
> all. You have swallowed all the sentimental hogwash that has ever come down
> the pike. I could excuse a younger person for believing such nonsense, but
> there is no excuse for an old bugger like you. You are hopeless and the
> sooner you leave this vail of tears the better.
>

What are you talking about, Dolan? What "sentimental hogwash"? Believing
what "nonsense"? That attacking someone because of their religion or race is
offensive?
And now you're wishing that I was dead? Why? Because I disagree with you?
What's wrong with you, Dolan? You embrace bigotry, hatred, prejudice and bias -
and you wish I was dead?
And I thought GC was bad!

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




      
Date: 28 Dec 2004 05:18:19
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.

Before branched newsgroup readers, bottom posting made sense because a
response to each different topic came one message at a time with no
order. Now the responses are organized in a branched order so one can
easily follow a thread. If I am responding to an entire message I CAN
top post (Try to stop me!). However, if I am responding to specific
varied portions (interleaved quoting?) "I" do put them before my
response (This is also my choice!). Of course, I expect the reader to
be newsgroup literate or willing to become newsgroup literate and to be
using a branched newsreader (Everyone is using a branched newsreader
today you know! You do know that, don't you?). Most people become
newsgroup literate except anal retentives like Ed, Ed Jr. (Tom), Just
zis Guy, and others.

I could say, "Please don't waste my time forcing me to scroll by bottom
posting when you should be top posting!" However, I do know that for
you anal retentives that statement is a waste of time.

But I will say, "The toilet paper roll should be placed so that the
paper is comimg off the top of the roll as far away from the wall as
possible!" How could anyone dare to put the roll on any other way!

Enjoy,

Perry B



Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>
> >Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is
boring...
> >and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the
reply. If
> >we need more, we can scroll down.....
>
> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>
> >Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is
for
> >people with Alzheimer's.......
>
> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case
ignorance
> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>
> >For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously
been
> >written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>
> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every
day.
>
> >So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where
those of
> >us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>
> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
> of the things which good practice demands.
>
> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>
> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)



       
Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:02:49
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:

> I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.
>
> Before branched newsgroup readers, bottom posting made sense because a
> response to each different topic came one message at a time with no
> order. Now the responses are organized in a branched order so one can
> easily follow a thread. If I am responding to an entire message I CAN
> top post (Try to stop me!). However, if I am responding to specific
> varied portions (interleaved quoting?) "I" do put them before my
> response (This is also my choice!). Of course, I expect the reader to
> be newsgroup literate or willing to become newsgroup literate and to be
> using a branched newsreader (Everyone is using a branched newsreader
> today you know! You do know that, don't you?). Most people become
> newsgroup literate except anal retentives like Ed, Ed Jr. (Tom), Just
> zis Guy, and others.
>
> I could say, "Please don't waste my time forcing me to scroll by bottom
> posting when you should be top posting!" However, I do know that for
> you anal retentives that statement is a waste of time.
>
> But I will say, "The toilet paper roll should be placed so that the
> paper is comimg off the top of the roll as far away from the wall as
> possible!" How could anyone dare to put the roll on any other way!

P. Butler gets everything wrong but the final paragraph.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



       
Date: 28 Dec 2004 08:26:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1104239899.699697.11780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Sigh! All top posters are idiots!

>I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.
>
> Before branched newsgroup readers, bottom posting made sense because a
> response to each different topic came one message at a time with no
> order. Now the responses are organized in a branched order so one can
> easily follow a thread. If I am responding to an entire message I CAN
> top post (Try to stop me!). However, if I am responding to specific
> varied portions (interleaved quoting?) "I" do put them before my
> response (This is also my choice!). Of course, I expect the reader to
> be newsgroup literate or willing to become newsgroup literate and to be
> using a branched newsreader (Everyone is using a branched newsreader
> today you know! You do know that, don't you?). Most people become
> newsgroup literate except anal retentives like Ed, Ed Jr. (Tom), Just
> zis Guy, and others.
>
> I could say, "Please don't waste my time forcing me to scroll by bottom
> posting when you should be top posting!" However, I do know that for
> you anal retentives that statement is a waste of time.
>
> But I will say, "The toilet paper roll should be placed so that the
> paper is comimg off the top of the roll as far away from the wall as
> possible!" How could anyone dare to put the roll on any other way!
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Perry B
>
>
>
> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
>> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>>
>> >Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is
> boring...
>> >and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the
> reply. If
>> >we need more, we can scroll down.....
>>
>> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
>> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>>
>> >Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is
> for
>> >people with Alzheimer's.......
>>
>> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
>> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
>> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
>> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
>> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
>> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
>> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case
> ignorance
>> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>>
>> >For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously
> been
>> >written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>>
>> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
>> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every
> day.
>>
>> >So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where
> those of
>> >us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>>
>> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
>> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
>> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
>> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
>> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
>> of the things which good practice demands.
>>
>> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
>> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>>
>> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)

I suspect most of us are using Outlook Express for a newsreader or some such
variant of it. Since that is undoubtedly the case, everything Perry is
talking about is as irrelevant as the price of a cup of tea in China.
Branched newsreaders have nothing to do with it. I charge Perry Butler with
being a total idiot!

Here is what is relevant to an educated mind who thinks in a reasonable and
logical fashion.

[From Dick Gaughban's website:
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html ]


"The Absolute Beginner's Guide to Usenet
Absolute Beginner's Frequently Asked Questions


8. What is Top-Posting and why is it considered bad?

Top posting is when someone puts all their comments at the top of their post
then quotes (usually the entire text) from the original post underneath it.

But why is it considered such a Bad Thing?

Given the way in which newsgroups are propagated, it can happen that someone
will read a response before receiving the original. Therefore it is good
practice to quote the parts of a previous message to which you are
responding. But if you place all your comments at the top, the reader has to
scroll down the page and hunt to see what it is you are replying to. I, and
most other newsgroup regulars, tend to ignore people who make it too much
hard work to figure out what it is they have to say. If you deliberately
make it difficult for people to understand you, you shouldn't really be too
surprised or disappointed when they don't respond.

The correct manner of replying to a post is simply common sense, placing
response after original (quotes ked >)

>This is comment 1

And this is my reply to comment 1

>And comment 2

And my reply to comment 2

>And comment 3

And reply to comment 3

If you're still having difficulty in understanding why this interlacing of
comment and reply is the sensible way of doing it, let me give you an
example to ponder.

Which of the following exchanges do you find easier to comprehend?

Example 1.

Yes please.

One sugar and some milk.

>Would you like a cup of coffee?

>How do you take it?

Example 2.

>Would you like a cup of coffee?

Yes please.

>How do you take it?

One sugar and some milk.


With those examples, I rest my case.


But it's not my fault! my software automatically quotes the entire text of
the message I'm replying to and places the cursor at the top. It's a real
pain to have to trim the quoted stuff and type my comments after it!

Then you have a choice of three options:

1. Get a newsreader which allows you a choice as to how quoting is
handled.

2. Accept that there are customs which have developed over the years and
that a few seconds' work on your part to format your posts to comply with
those customs will save others a lot of inconvenience and will make all the
difference to whether you're welcomed or ignored.

3. Place your own convenience ahead of the convenience of other readers of
the group and carry on doing what you're doing. But if you decide to place
your own convenience first then you won't be surprised or disappointed if
other people decide to do likewise and simply ignore your posts.


The choice is yours.

Useful information about top-posting and message formatting

Upsidedown Posting
by Richard Christopher, Royal National Institute for the Blind, about the
problems caused to blind newsgroup users by top-posting and overquotin"



Perry Butler puts his convenience ahead of the convenience of others (see
option number three above) and so should be treated with the contempt he so
richly deserves. He further thinks everything is a just a matter of
"choice." He has got to be the worst teacher in the world. Imagine telling
your students that it is a matter of choice whether they want to bottom post
or not! Students need to be told the correct way to do something without
confusing them with "choices" which are just plain wrong headed. His toilet
paper example is as irrelevant as is his entire post.

Perry is a Minnesota blockhead and one of the main reasons I am not enamored
of this state. We come up with the worst politicians in the nation who often
achieve national prominence and it is all due to a plethora of blockheads
like Perry who reside in this state and exasperate us sane and sensible
types with their confounded stupid opinions on everything.

--

Regards,


Ed Dolan - Minnesota






        
Date: 28 Dec 2004 09:19:52
From: Just Me
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Sigh! All top posters are RIGHT!
If you don't like it, you can ignore it!!!!
I filter all of Ed's BS this way and it works for me.
Have a nice day Ed.

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:ENudncXjPoiH8EzcRVn-sg@prairiewave.com...
>
> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1104239899.699697.11780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Sigh! All top posters are idiots!
>
>>I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.
>>
>> Before branched newsgroup readers, bottom posting made sense because a
>> response to each different topic came one message at a time with no
>> order. Now the responses are organized in a branched order so one can
>> easily follow a thread. If I am responding to an entire message I CAN
>> top post (Try to stop me!). However, if I am responding to specific
>> varied portions (interleaved quoting?) "I" do put them before my
>> response (This is also my choice!). Of course, I expect the reader to
>> be newsgroup literate or willing to become newsgroup literate and to be
>> using a branched newsreader (Everyone is using a branched newsreader
>> today you know! You do know that, don't you?). Most people become
>> newsgroup literate except anal retentives like Ed, Ed Jr. (Tom), Just
>> zis Guy, and others.
>>
>> I could say, "Please don't waste my time forcing me to scroll by bottom
>> posting when you should be top posting!" However, I do know that for
>> you anal retentives that statement is a waste of time.
>>
>> But I will say, "The toilet paper roll should be placed so that the
>> paper is comimg off the top of the roll as far away from the wall as
>> possible!" How could anyone dare to put the roll on any other way!
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Perry B
>>
>>
>>
>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
>>> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>>>
>>> >Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is
>> boring...
>>> >and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the
>> reply. If
>>> >we need more, we can scroll down.....
>>>
>>> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
>>> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>>>
>>> >Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is
>> for
>>> >people with Alzheimer's.......
>>>
>>> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
>>> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
>>> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
>>> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
>>> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
>>> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
>>> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case
>> ignorance
>>> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>>>
>>> >For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously
>> been
>>> >written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>>>
>>> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
>>> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every
>> day.
>>>
>>> >So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where
>> those of
>>> >us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>>>
>>> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
>>> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
>>> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
>>> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
>>> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
>>> of the things which good practice demands.
>>>
>>> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
>>> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>>>
>>> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)
>
> I suspect most of us are using Outlook Express for a newsreader or some
> such variant of it. Since that is undoubtedly the case, everything Perry
> is talking about is as irrelevant as the price of a cup of tea in China.
> Branched newsreaders have nothing to do with it. I charge Perry Butler
> with being a total idiot!
>
> Here is what is relevant to an educated mind who thinks in a reasonable
> and logical fashion.
>
> [From Dick Gaughban's website:
> http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html ]
>
>
> "The Absolute Beginner's Guide to Usenet
> Absolute Beginner's Frequently Asked Questions
>
>
> 8. What is Top-Posting and why is it considered bad?
>
> Top posting is when someone puts all their comments at the top of their
> post then quotes (usually the entire text) from the original post
> underneath it.
>
> But why is it considered such a Bad Thing?
>
> Given the way in which newsgroups are propagated, it can happen that
> someone will read a response before receiving the original. Therefore it
> is good practice to quote the parts of a previous message to which you are
> responding. But if you place all your comments at the top, the reader has
> to scroll down the page and hunt to see what it is you are replying to. I,
> and most other newsgroup regulars, tend to ignore people who make it too
> much hard work to figure out what it is they have to say. If you
> deliberately make it difficult for people to understand you, you shouldn't
> really be too surprised or disappointed when they don't respond.
>
> The correct manner of replying to a post is simply common sense, placing
> response after original (quotes ked >)
>
> >This is comment 1
>
> And this is my reply to comment 1
>
> >And comment 2
>
> And my reply to comment 2
>
> >And comment 3
>
> And reply to comment 3
>
> If you're still having difficulty in understanding why this interlacing of
> comment and reply is the sensible way of doing it, let me give you an
> example to ponder.
>
> Which of the following exchanges do you find easier to comprehend?
>
> Example 1.
>
> Yes please.
>
> One sugar and some milk.
>
> >Would you like a cup of coffee?
>
> >How do you take it?
>
> Example 2.
>
> >Would you like a cup of coffee?
>
> Yes please.
>
> >How do you take it?
>
> One sugar and some milk.
>
>
> With those examples, I rest my case.
>
>
> But it's not my fault! my software automatically quotes the entire text of
> the message I'm replying to and places the cursor at the top. It's a real
> pain to have to trim the quoted stuff and type my comments after it!
>
> Then you have a choice of three options:
>
> 1. Get a newsreader which allows you a choice as to how quoting is
> handled.
>
> 2. Accept that there are customs which have developed over the years and
> that a few seconds' work on your part to format your posts to comply with
> those customs will save others a lot of inconvenience and will make all
> the difference to whether you're welcomed or ignored.
>
> 3. Place your own convenience ahead of the convenience of other readers
> of the group and carry on doing what you're doing. But if you decide to
> place your own convenience first then you won't be surprised or
> disappointed if other people decide to do likewise and simply ignore your
> posts.
>
>
> The choice is yours.
>
> Useful information about top-posting and message formatting
>
> Upsidedown Posting
> by Richard Christopher, Royal National Institute for the Blind, about the
> problems caused to blind newsgroup users by top-posting and overquotin"
>
>
>
> Perry Butler puts his convenience ahead of the convenience of others (see
> option number three above) and so should be treated with the contempt he
> so richly deserves. He further thinks everything is a just a matter of
> "choice." He has got to be the worst teacher in the world. Imagine telling
> your students that it is a matter of choice whether they want to bottom
> post or not! Students need to be told the correct way to do something
> without confusing them with "choices" which are just plain wrong headed.
> His toilet paper example is as irrelevant as is his entire post.
>
> Perry is a Minnesota blockhead and one of the main reasons I am not
> enamored of this state. We come up with the worst politicians in the
> nation who often achieve national prominence and it is all due to a
> plethora of blockheads like Perry who reside in this state and exasperate
> us sane and sensible types with their confounded stupid opinions on
> everything.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Ed Dolan - Minnesota
>
>
>
>




         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 09:36:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote in message
news:vQeAd.11534$c%.8685@okepread05...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> Sigh! All top posters are RIGHT!
> If you don't like it, you can ignore it!!!!
> I filter all of Ed's BS this way and it works for me.
> Have a nice day Ed.

Thanks for doing nothing but essentially re-posting my message so that all
the blockheads here on ARBR who think it is OK to top post can maybe get my
message knocked into their stupid heads.

I am going to leave it here yet once again in the hope that anyone who is
reading it for the third time will FINALLY get it.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota



> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:ENudncXjPoiH8EzcRVn-sg@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1104239899.699697.11780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Sigh! All top posters are idiots!
>>
>>>I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.
>>>
>>> Before branched newsgroup readers, bottom posting made sense because a
>>> response to each different topic came one message at a time with no
>>> order. Now the responses are organized in a branched order so one can
>>> easily follow a thread. If I am responding to an entire message I CAN
>>> top post (Try to stop me!). However, if I am responding to specific
>>> varied portions (interleaved quoting?) "I" do put them before my
>>> response (This is also my choice!). Of course, I expect the reader to
>>> be newsgroup literate or willing to become newsgroup literate and to be
>>> using a branched newsreader (Everyone is using a branched newsreader
>>> today you know! You do know that, don't you?). Most people become
>>> newsgroup literate except anal retentives like Ed, Ed Jr. (Tom), Just
>>> zis Guy, and others.
>>>
>>> I could say, "Please don't waste my time forcing me to scroll by bottom
>>> posting when you should be top posting!" However, I do know that for
>>> you anal retentives that statement is a waste of time.
>>>
>>> But I will say, "The toilet paper roll should be placed so that the
>>> paper is comimg off the top of the roll as far away from the wall as
>>> possible!" How could anyone dare to put the roll on any other way!
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>>
>>> Perry B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
>>>> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>>>>
>>>> >Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is
>>> boring...
>>>> >and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the
>>> reply. If
>>>> >we need more, we can scroll down.....
>>>>
>>>> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
>>>> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>>>>
>>>> >Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is
>>> for
>>>> >people with Alzheimer's.......
>>>>
>>>> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
>>>> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
>>>> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
>>>> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
>>>> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
>>>> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
>>>> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case
>>> ignorance
>>>> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>>>>
>>>> >For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously
>>> been
>>>> >written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>>>>
>>>> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
>>>> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every
>>> day.
>>>>
>>>> >So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where
>>> those of
>>>> >us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>>>>
>>>> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
>>>> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
>>>> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
>>>> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
>>>> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
>>>> of the things which good practice demands.
>>>>
>>>> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
>>>> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>>>>
>>>> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)
>>
>> I suspect most of us are using Outlook Express for a newsreader or some
>> such variant of it. Since that is undoubtedly the case, everything Perry
>> is talking about is as irrelevant as the price of a cup of tea in China.
>> Branched newsreaders have nothing to do with it. I charge Perry Butler
>> with being a total idiot!
>>
>> Here is what is relevant to an educated mind who thinks in a reasonable
>> and logical fashion.
>>
>> [From Dick Gaughban's website:
>> http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html ]
>>
>>
>> "The Absolute Beginner's Guide to Usenet
>> Absolute Beginner's Frequently Asked Questions
>>
>>
>> 8. What is Top-Posting and why is it considered bad?
>>
>> Top posting is when someone puts all their comments at the top of their
>> post then quotes (usually the entire text) from the original post
>> underneath it.
>>
>> But why is it considered such a Bad Thing?
>>
>> Given the way in which newsgroups are propagated, it can happen that
>> someone will read a response before receiving the original. Therefore it
>> is good practice to quote the parts of a previous message to which you
>> are responding. But if you place all your comments at the top, the reader
>> has to scroll down the page and hunt to see what it is you are replying
>> to. I, and most other newsgroup regulars, tend to ignore people who make
>> it too much hard work to figure out what it is they have to say. If you
>> deliberately make it difficult for people to understand you, you
>> shouldn't really be too surprised or disappointed when they don't
>> respond.
>>
>> The correct manner of replying to a post is simply common sense, placing
>> response after original (quotes ked >)
>>
>> >This is comment 1
>>
>> And this is my reply to comment 1
>>
>> >And comment 2
>>
>> And my reply to comment 2
>>
>> >And comment 3
>>
>> And reply to comment 3
>>
>> If you're still having difficulty in understanding why this interlacing
>> of comment and reply is the sensible way of doing it, let me give you an
>> example to ponder.
>>
>> Which of the following exchanges do you find easier to comprehend?
>>
>> Example 1.
>>
>> Yes please.
>>
>> One sugar and some milk.
>>
>> >Would you like a cup of coffee?
>>
>> >How do you take it?
>>
>> Example 2.
>>
>> >Would you like a cup of coffee?
>>
>> Yes please.
>>
>> >How do you take it?
>>
>> One sugar and some milk.
>>
>>
>> With those examples, I rest my case.
>>
>>
>> But it's not my fault! my software automatically quotes the entire text
>> of the message I'm replying to and places the cursor at the top. It's a
>> real pain to have to trim the quoted stuff and type my comments after it!
>>
>> Then you have a choice of three options:
>>
>> 1. Get a newsreader which allows you a choice as to how quoting is
>> handled.
>>
>> 2. Accept that there are customs which have developed over the years and
>> that a few seconds' work on your part to format your posts to comply with
>> those customs will save others a lot of inconvenience and will make all
>> the difference to whether you're welcomed or ignored.
>>
>> 3. Place your own convenience ahead of the convenience of other readers
>> of the group and carry on doing what you're doing. But if you decide to
>> place your own convenience first then you won't be surprised or
>> disappointed if other people decide to do likewise and simply ignore your
>> posts.
>>
>>
>> The choice is yours.
>>
>> Useful information about top-posting and message formatting
>>
>> Upsidedown Posting
>> by Richard Christopher, Royal National Institute for the Blind, about the
>> problems caused to blind newsgroup users by top-posting and overquotin"
>>
>>
>>
>> Perry Butler puts his convenience ahead of the convenience of others (see
>> option number three above) and so should be treated with the contempt he
>> so richly deserves. He further thinks everything is a just a matter of
>> "choice." He has got to be the worst teacher in the world. Imagine
>> telling your students that it is a matter of choice whether they want to
>> bottom post or not! Students need to be told the correct way to do
>> something without confusing them with "choices" which are just plain
>> wrong headed. His toilet paper example is as irrelevant as is his entire
>> post.
>>
>> Perry is a Minnesota blockhead and one of the main reasons I am not
>> enamored of this state. We come up with the worst politicians in the
>> nation who often achieve national prominence and it is all due to a
>> plethora of blockheads like Perry who reside in this state and exasperate
>> us sane and sensible types with their confounded stupid opinions on
>> everything.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Ed Dolan - Minnesota
>>




          
Date: 28 Dec 2004 11:22:40
From: Richard Drown
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
SIGH! ALL TOP POSTERS ARE RIGHT!
If you don't like it, you can ignore it!!!!
I filter all of Ed's BS this way and it works for me.
Have a nice day Ed.
And thank you for keeping this thread alive.

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:5PGdnUdlgZMd4EzcRVn-oQ@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote in message
> news:vQeAd.11534$c%.8685@okepread05...
>
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
>> Sigh! All top posters are RIGHT!
>> If you don't like it, you can ignore it!!!!
>> I filter all of Ed's BS this way and it works for me.
>> Have a nice day Ed.
>
> Thanks for doing nothing but essentially re-posting my message so that all
> the blockheads here on ARBR who think it is OK to top post can maybe get
> my message knocked into their stupid heads.
>
> I am going to leave it here yet once again in the hope that anyone who is
> reading it for the third time will FINALLY get it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan - Minnesota
>
>
>
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:ENudncXjPoiH8EzcRVn-sg@prairiewave.com...
>>>
>>> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1104239899.699697.11780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> Sigh! All top posters are idiots!
>>>
>>>>I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.
>>>>
>>>> Before branched newsgroup readers, bottom posting made sense because a
>>>> response to each different topic came one message at a time with no
>>>> order. Now the responses are organized in a branched order so one can
>>>> easily follow a thread. If I am responding to an entire message I CAN
>>>> top post (Try to stop me!). However, if I am responding to specific
>>>> varied portions (interleaved quoting?) "I" do put them before my
>>>> response (This is also my choice!). Of course, I expect the reader to
>>>> be newsgroup literate or willing to become newsgroup literate and to be
>>>> using a branched newsreader (Everyone is using a branched newsreader
>>>> today you know! You do know that, don't you?). Most people become
>>>> newsgroup literate except anal retentives like Ed, Ed Jr. (Tom), Just
>>>> zis Guy, and others.
>>>>
>>>> I could say, "Please don't waste my time forcing me to scroll by bottom
>>>> posting when you should be top posting!" However, I do know that for
>>>> you anal retentives that statement is a waste of time.
>>>>
>>>> But I will say, "The toilet paper roll should be placed so that the
>>>> paper is comimg off the top of the roll as far away from the wall as
>>>> possible!" How could anyone dare to put the roll on any other way!
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>
>>>> Perry B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <alicesprings@cox.net>
>>>>> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is
>>>> boring...
>>>>> >and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the
>>>> reply. If
>>>>> >we need more, we can scroll down.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
>>>>> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is
>>>> for
>>>>> >people with Alzheimer's.......
>>>>>
>>>>> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
>>>>> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
>>>>> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
>>>>> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
>>>>> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
>>>>> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
>>>>> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case
>>>> ignorance
>>>>> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> >For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously
>>>> been
>>>>> >written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
>>>>> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every
>>>> day.
>>>>>
>>>>> >So, top post the reply, put the repeated crap at the bottom, where
>>>> those of
>>>>> >us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>>>>>
>>>>> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
>>>>> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
>>>>> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
>>>>> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
>>>>> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
>>>>> of the things which good practice demands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
>>>>> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly :-)
>>>
>>> I suspect most of us are using Outlook Express for a newsreader or some
>>> such variant of it. Since that is undoubtedly the case, everything Perry
>>> is talking about is as irrelevant as the price of a cup of tea in China.
>>> Branched newsreaders have nothing to do with it. I charge Perry Butler
>>> with being a total idiot!
>>>
>>> Here is what is relevant to an educated mind who thinks in a reasonable
>>> and logical fashion.
>>>
>>> [From Dick Gaughban's website:
>>> http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html ]
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Absolute Beginner's Guide to Usenet
>>> Absolute Beginner's Frequently Asked Questions
>>>
>>>
>>> 8. What is Top-Posting and why is it considered bad?
>>>
>>> Top posting is when someone puts all their comments at the top of their
>>> post then quotes (usually the entire text) from the original post
>>> underneath it.
>>>
>>> But why is it considered such a Bad Thing?
>>>
>>> Given the way in which newsgroups are propagated, it can happen that
>>> someone will read a response before receiving the original. Therefore it
>>> is good practice to quote the parts of a previous message to which you
>>> are responding. But if you place all your comments at the top, the
>>> reader has to scroll down the page and hunt to see what it is you are
>>> replying to. I, and most other newsgroup regulars, tend to ignore people
>>> who make it too much hard work to figure out what it is they have to
>>> say. If you deliberately make it difficult for people to understand you,
>>> you shouldn't really be too surprised or disappointed when they don't
>>> respond.
>>>
>>> The correct manner of replying to a post is simply common sense, placing
>>> response after original (quotes ked >)
>>>
>>> >This is comment 1
>>>
>>> And this is my reply to comment 1
>>>
>>> >And comment 2
>>>
>>> And my reply to comment 2
>>>
>>> >And comment 3
>>>
>>> And reply to comment 3
>>>
>>> If you're still having difficulty in understanding why this interlacing
>>> of comment and reply is the sensible way of doing it, let me give you an
>>> example to ponder.
>>>
>>> Which of the following exchanges do you find easier to comprehend?
>>>
>>> Example 1.
>>>
>>> Yes please.
>>>
>>> One sugar and some milk.
>>>
>>> >Would you like a cup of coffee?
>>>
>>> >How do you take it?
>>>
>>> Example 2.
>>>
>>> >Would you like a cup of coffee?
>>>
>>> Yes please.
>>>
>>> >How do you take it?
>>>
>>> One sugar and some milk.
>>>
>>>
>>> With those examples, I rest my case.
>>>
>>>
>>> But it's not my fault! my software automatically quotes the entire text
>>> of the message I'm replying to and places the cursor at the top. It's a
>>> real pain to have to trim the quoted stuff and type my comments after
>>> it!
>>>
>>> Then you have a choice of three options:
>>>
>>> 1. Get a newsreader which allows you a choice as to how quoting is
>>> handled.
>>>
>>> 2. Accept that there are customs which have developed over the years
>>> and that a few seconds' work on your part to format your posts to comply
>>> with those customs will save others a lot of inconvenience and will make
>>> all the difference to whether you're welcomed or ignored.
>>>
>>> 3. Place your own convenience ahead of the convenience of other readers
>>> of the group and carry on doing what you're doing. But if you decide to
>>> place your own convenience first then you won't be surprised or
>>> disappointed if other people decide to do likewise and simply ignore
>>> your posts.
>>>
>>>
>>> The choice is yours.
>>>
>>> Useful information about top-posting and message formatting
>>>
>>> Upsidedown Posting
>>> by Richard Christopher, Royal National Institute for the Blind, about
>>> the problems caused to blind newsgroup users by top-posting and
>>> overquotin"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perry Butler puts his convenience ahead of the convenience of others
>>> (see option number three above) and so should be treated with the
>>> contempt he so richly deserves. He further thinks everything is a just a
>>> matter of "choice." He has got to be the worst teacher in the world.
>>> Imagine telling your students that it is a matter of choice whether they
>>> want to bottom post or not! Students need to be told the correct way to
>>> do something without confusing them with "choices" which are just plain
>>> wrong headed. His toilet paper example is as irrelevant as is his entire
>>> post.
>>>
>>> Perry is a Minnesota blockhead and one of the main reasons I am not
>>> enamored of this state. We come up with the worst politicians in the
>>> nation who often achieve national prominence and it is all due to a
>>> plethora of blockheads like Perry who reside in this state and
>>> exasperate us sane and sensible types with their confounded stupid
>>> opinions on everything.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan - Minnesota
>>>
>
>




       
Date: 28 Dec 2004 13:36:56
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On 28 Dec 2004 05:18:19 -0800, perryb67@yahoo.com wrote in message
<1104239899.699697.11780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >:

>I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.

I see the clueless are still unaware of why it is important, and still
using the Clueless Outhouse Luser default behaviour of quoting the
entire thread untrimmed at the bottom of every post, with no
consideration for those managing the news servers.

And assuming that because Outhouse works a particular way, that is the
way all newsreaders work. Presumably you have never spotted that even
Outhouse can be configured to show newsgroups in date, not thread
order. Less than 1/4 of contributors to my "home" newsgroup use
Outhouse. Most of them seem to be using something like OE QuoteFix to
overcome its grosser stupidities (in particular the untrimmed quoting
idiocy).

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


      
Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:40:21
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>
>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>>[...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
>>>>> Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
>>>>> stopped paying attention a long time ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and
>>>>anyone who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in his
>>>>head. I myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is for
>>>>all the idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum like
>>>>ARBR (one without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What is so
>>>>hard to understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone here is
>>>>taking any of this seriously you need to get to psychiatrist to find out
>>>>what is wrong with you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The trouble is, Dolan, many people *do* take insults and attacks
>>> seriously. They don't like to have their, or anyone's, race, religion or
>>> ethnic background maligned, even if the gutless coward is either known
>>> or unknown. When you attack a religion, some people find that offensive.
>>> When you attack a person, some people find that offensive.
>>
>>
>> Damn it all to Hell Varney! Some religions are despicable. Why the Hell
>> can't liberals ever call a spade a spade. The g.d.Muslims are trying to
>> kill us. Yes, that is you and me! I mean to give extreme offense to the
>> g.d. Muslims and to all those who make excuses for them. That apparently
>> includes numskulls like you.
>
> I am making no excuses for anyone, Dolan, and most especially you. You
> are an embarrassment to all Americans, and this has nothing to do with
> "liberals" or "conservatives". You are a bigot.

And you are nothing but a name caller. You say you have no religious biases.
Why the Hell don't you? You should have. The g.d. Muslims (all one word) are
an abomination. You are a numskull of the first rank not to hate Muslims.
They hate you. Why the Hell don't you hate them back?

>>> It does't matter if these offensive attacks are in public, on a usenet
>>> forum, on television or anywhere else - it's still offensive. Maybe you
>>> don't take it seriously, maybe you think attacking someone because of
>>> their race or religion is just a joke, but there are lots of people who
>>> don't share your don't-give-a-shit attitude about everything.
>>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this
>>> cesspool of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that
>>> involves adults.
>>
>>
>> Hatred has it place in life, as well as prejudice and bias and all the
>> other judgments that men make about other men. Varney, you are an idiot!
>> But worse than that, you are a liberal idiot which is the dumbest kind of
>> idiot of all. You have swallowed all the sentimental hogwash that has
>> ever come down the pike. I could excuse a younger person for believing
>> such nonsense, but there is no excuse for an old bugger like you. You are
>> hopeless and the sooner you leave this vail of tears the better.
>>
>
> What are you talking about, Dolan? What "sentimental hogwash"? Believing
> what "nonsense"? That attacking someone because of their religion or race
> is offensive?

The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good thing
and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different they are from
us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is the liberal orthodoxy
which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is the most outrageous nonsense.
Differences count. I take note of those differences and render my judgments
accordingly. So does all the rest of humanity, except for numskull liberals
like yourself.

> And now you're wishing that I was dead? Why? Because I disagree with
> you? What's wrong with you, Dolan? You embrace bigotry, hatred, prejudice
> and bias - and you wish I was dead?

As I have stated previously hatred, prejudice and bigotry all have their
place in the conduct of human affairs. They are short cuts so we do not have
to constantly rethink everything. Your type will be the death of Western
Civilization with all your confounded tolerance. That is why I wish you
dead. We are now living in a very dangerous world and we need to encourage
the killer instinct among us which now lies dormant in the West.

> And I thought GC was bad!

What is GC? Never abbreviate anything is the best policy.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota








       
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:53:14
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>>>[...]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
>>>>>>Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
>>>>>>stopped paying attention a long time ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and
>>>>>anyone who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in his
>>>>>head. I myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is for
>>>>>all the idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum like
>>>>>ARBR (one without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What is so
>>>>>hard to understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone here is
>>>>>taking any of this seriously you need to get to psychiatrist to find out
>>>>>what is wrong with you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The trouble is, Dolan, many people *do* take insults and attacks
>>>>seriously. They don't like to have their, or anyone's, race, religion or
>>>>ethnic background maligned, even if the gutless coward is either known
>>>>or unknown. When you attack a religion, some people find that offensive.
>>>>When you attack a person, some people find that offensive.
>>>
>>>
>>>Damn it all to Hell Varney! Some religions are despicable. Why the Hell
>>>can't liberals ever call a spade a spade. The g.d.Muslims are trying to
>>>kill us. Yes, that is you and me! I mean to give extreme offense to the
>>>g.d. Muslims and to all those who make excuses for them. That apparently
>>>includes numskulls like you.
>>
>> I am making no excuses for anyone, Dolan, and most especially you. You
>>are an embarrassment to all Americans, and this has nothing to do with
>>"liberals" or "conservatives". You are a bigot.
>
>
> And you are nothing but a name caller. You say you have no religious biases.
> Why the Hell don't you? You should have. The g.d. Muslims (all one word) are
> an abomination. You are a numskull of the first rank not to hate Muslims.
> They hate you. Why the Hell don't you hate them back?
>
>

Nonsense, Dolan, I am not "nothing but a name caller". Yes, I refer to you
as a bigot, but that is a purely accurate label. Look it up. And I did not say
I have no religious biases. Again, read what I write, not what you imagine I
have written. And really, Dolan, get real: the Muslims hate *me*? Where do you
come up with such information? And while you're at it: can't you spell
"numbskull" correctly?

>>>> It does't matter if these offensive attacks are in public, on a usenet
>>>>forum, on television or anywhere else - it's still offensive. Maybe you
>>>>don't take it seriously, maybe you think attacking someone because of
>>>>their race or religion is just a joke, but there are lots of people who
>>>>don't share your don't-give-a-shit attitude about everything.
>>>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this
>>>>cesspool of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that
>>>>involves adults.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hatred has it place in life, as well as prejudice and bias and all the
>>>other judgments that men make about other men. Varney, you are an idiot!
>>>But worse than that, you are a liberal idiot which is the dumbest kind of
>>>idiot of all. You have swallowed all the sentimental hogwash that has
>>>ever come down the pike. I could excuse a younger person for believing
>>>such nonsense, but there is no excuse for an old bugger like you. You are
>>>hopeless and the sooner you leave this vail of tears the better.
>>>
>>
>> What are you talking about, Dolan? What "sentimental hogwash"? Believing
>>what "nonsense"? That attacking someone because of their religion or race
>>is offensive?
>
>
> The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good thing
> and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different they are from
> us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is the liberal orthodoxy
> which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is the most outrageous nonsense.
> Differences count. I take note of those differences and render my judgments
> accordingly. So does all the rest of humanity, except for numskull liberals
> like yourself.
>
>
There you go again, Dolan lashing at out me for something I have never said.
Yes, I do think diversity is a good thing, though I haven't talked about it.
Who can stand the same old thing all the time? But "tolerate everybody"? I've
never said that, and I don't believe it. And yes, differences count. Is it
right to hate you, simply because you're different?

>> And now you're wishing that I was dead? Why? Because I disagree with
>>you? What's wrong with you, Dolan? You embrace bigotry, hatred, prejudice
>>and bias - and you wish I was dead?
>
>
> As I have stated previously hatred, prejudice and bigotry all have their
> place in the conduct of human affairs. They are short cuts so we do not have
> to constantly rethink everything. Your type will be the death of Western
> Civilization with all your confounded tolerance. That is why I wish you
> dead. We are now living in a very dangerous world and we need to encourage
> the killer instinct among us which now lies dormant in the West.
>
>
Yes, prejudice and bigotry do have their place - in the dictionary. We
should strive to eliminate them from our lives, much as we try to eliminate
ignorance, disease, crime and malnutrition. And just out of curiosity, what
religion do you profess to follow, that wishes me dead because I'm tolerant?

>> And I thought GC was bad!
>
>
> What is GC? Never abbreviate anything is the best policy.
>

Interesting. In one breath you advocate prejudice and bigotry, because they
are short cuts. And here you put down abbreviations. And "GC" stands for
"Gutless Coward".

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




        
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:50:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:C9lyd.17$IZ2.7@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>
>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:Slhyd.12018$FE.6795@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But, I'm sure that all of you don't give a damn, so the hell with it.
>>>>>>>Everyone will believe what they want to believe, and the lucky ones
>>>>>>>stopped paying attention a long time ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mr. Varney has now captured the essence of Usenet. It is all crap and
>>>>>>anyone who takes any of this shit seriously has got to have rocks in
>>>>>>his head. I myself take all of this as a joke as I now realize this is
>>>>>>for all the idiots and scoundrels in the world. An unmoderated forum
>>>>>>like ARBR (one without an editor) is for the screwballs and nuts. What
>>>>>>is so hard to understand about this? I say laugh at it all. If anyone
>>>>>>here is taking any of this seriously you need to get to psychiatrist
>>>>>>to find out what is wrong with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The trouble is, Dolan, many people *do* take insults and attacks
>>>>> seriously. They don't like to have their, or anyone's, race, religion
>>>>> or ethnic background maligned, even if the gutless coward is either
>>>>> known or unknown. When you attack a religion, some people find that
>>>>> offensive. When you attack a person, some people find that offensive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Damn it all to Hell Varney! Some religions are despicable. Why the Hell
>>>>can't liberals ever call a spade a spade. The g.d.Muslims are trying to
>>>>kill us. Yes, that is you and me! I mean to give extreme offense to the
>>>>g.d. Muslims and to all those who make excuses for them. That apparently
>>>>includes numskulls like you.
>>>
>>> I am making no excuses for anyone, Dolan, and most especially you. You
>>> are an embarrassment to all Americans, and this has nothing to do with
>>> "liberals" or "conservatives". You are a bigot.
>>
>>
>> And you are nothing but a name caller. You say you have no religious
>> biases. Why the Hell don't you? You should have. The g.d. Muslims (all
>> one word) are an abomination. You are a numskull of the first rank not to
>> hate Muslims. They hate you. Why the Hell don't you hate them back?
>>
>>
>
> Nonsense, Dolan, I am not "nothing but a name caller". Yes, I refer to
> you as a bigot, but that is a purely accurate label. Look it up. And I did
> not say I have no religious biases. Again, read what I write, not what you
> imagine I have written. And really, Dolan, get real: the Muslims hate
> *me*? Where do you come up with such information? And while you're at it:
> can't you spell "numbskull" correctly?

The g.d. Muslims are trying to kill you because you are of the West. I
figure that anyone who is trying to kill me most likely hates me and that is
the reason he is trying to kill me. God Damn it! We are at war with the
Muslim terrorists. You are the one that needs to get real.

If my spell check does not catch my spelling errors, then screw it! I can't
be bothered with trivialities. When I am pissed off, my spelling goes all to
Hell.

>>>>> It does't matter if these offensive attacks are in public, on a usenet
>>>>> forum, on television or anywhere else - it's still offensive. Maybe
>>>>> you don't take it seriously, maybe you think attacking someone because
>>>>> of their race or religion is just a joke, but there are lots of people
>>>>> who don't share your don't-give-a-shit attitude about everything.
>>>>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this
>>>>> cesspool of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that
>>>>> involves adults.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hatred has it place in life, as well as prejudice and bias and all the
>>>>other judgments that men make about other men. Varney, you are an idiot!
>>>>But worse than that, you are a liberal idiot which is the dumbest kind
>>>>of idiot of all. You have swallowed all the sentimental hogwash that has
>>>>ever come down the pike. I could excuse a younger person for believing
>>>>such nonsense, but there is no excuse for an old bugger like you. You
>>>>are hopeless and the sooner you leave this vail of tears the better.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What are you talking about, Dolan? What "sentimental hogwash"?
>>> Believing what "nonsense"? That attacking someone because of their
>>> religion or race is offensive?
>>
>>
>> The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good thing
>> and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different they are
>> from us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is the liberal
>> orthodoxy which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is the most
>> outrageous nonsense. Differences count. I take note of those differences
>> and render my judgments accordingly. So does all the rest of humanity,
>> except for numskull liberals like yourself.
>>
>>
> There you go again, Dolan lashing at out me for something I have never
> said. Yes, I do think diversity is a good thing, though I haven't talked
> about it. Who can stand the same old thing all the time? But "tolerate
> everybody"? I've never said that, and I don't believe it. And yes,
> differences count. Is it right to hate you, simply because you're
> different?

Since you are a liberal nut and screwball, you do not have to say anything
at all. I know you backwards and forwards by virtue of your identity as a
liberal. But still, I appreciate your back pedaling.

Diversity is a very bad thing. It creates nothing but rancor and hatred. We
humans love uniformity. Only complete idiots want diversity.

Yes indeed! Differences do count. But where is your evaluation of those
differences. I have no patience at all for those who recognize differences
but then do not take the next step in evaluating those differences. I
attribute it to cowardice. Political correctness is another name for
cowardice.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






         
Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:16:48
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
<snip >
>>>
>>>The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good thing
>>>and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different they are
>>>from us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is the liberal
>>>orthodoxy which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is the most
>>>outrageous nonsense. Differences count. I take note of those differences
>>>and render my judgments accordingly. So does all the rest of humanity,
>>>except for numskull liberals like yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There you go again, Dolan lashing at out me for something I have never
>>said. Yes, I do think diversity is a good thing, though I haven't talked
>>about it. Who can stand the same old thing all the time? But "tolerate
>>everybody"? I've never said that, and I don't believe it. And yes,
>>differences count. Is it right to hate you, simply because you're
>>different?
>
>
> Since you are a liberal nut and screwball, you do not have to say anything
> at all. I know you backwards and forwards by virtue of your identity as a
> liberal. But still, I appreciate your back pedaling.
>

Hold on a moment, Dolan. You admit now that I haven't said what you claimed
I've said, and it's not necessary that I say anything because you know me as my
"identity as a liberal" - how would I get that "identity", if I haven't said
anything? And how does one back pedal on something they haven't said? You're
making less sense by the moment.

> Diversity is a very bad thing. It creates nothing but rancor and hatred. We
> humans love uniformity. Only complete idiots want diversity.
>
> Yes indeed! Differences do count. But where is your evaluation of those
> differences. I have no patience at all for those who recognize differences
> but then do not take the next step in evaluating those differences. I
> attribute it to cowardice. Political correctness is another name for
> cowardice.
>

I do evaluate differences. You, on the other hand, say that you don't bother
thinking about things, including differences, by instead engaging in bigotry,
hate, prejudice and so on, as shortcuts that save you time from having to think.
Dolan, it looks like you're using both hands to dig yourself deeper into
that pit of absolute goofiness.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




          
Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:19:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:Ynmyd.33$IZ2.29@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good
>>>>thing and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different
>>>>they are from us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is the
>>>>liberal orthodoxy which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is the
>>>>most outrageous nonsense. Differences count. I take note of those
>>>>differences and render my judgments accordingly. So does all the rest of
>>>>humanity, except for numskull liberals like yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> There you go again, Dolan lashing at out me for something I have never
>>> said. Yes, I do think diversity is a good thing, though I haven't talked
>>> about it. Who can stand the same old thing all the time? But "tolerate
>>> everybody"? I've never said that, and I don't believe it. And yes,
>>> differences count. Is it right to hate you, simply because you're
>>> different?
>>
>>
>> Since you are a liberal nut and screwball, you do not have to say
>> anything at all. I know you backwards and forwards by virtue of your
>> identity as a liberal. But still, I appreciate your back pedaling.
>>
>
> Hold on a moment, Dolan. You admit now that I haven't said what you
> claimed I've said, and it's not necessary that I say anything because you
> know me as my "identity as a liberal" - how would I get that "identity",
> if I haven't said anything? And how does one back pedal on something they
> haven't said? You're making less sense by the moment.

You have back pedaled from the standard liberal position. The liberal
orthodoxy is that differences are wonderful and that we should relish them
and learn from them. The more diversity the better. If you do not hold to
that rubbish, then I stand corrected.

>> Diversity is a very bad thing. It creates nothing but rancor and hatred.
>> We humans love uniformity. Only complete idiots want diversity.
>>
>> Yes indeed! Differences do count. But where is your evaluation of those
>> differences. I have no patience at all for those who recognize
>> differences but then do not take the next step in evaluating those
>> differences. I attribute it to cowardice. Political correctness is
>> another name for cowardice.
>>
>
> I do evaluate differences. You, on the other hand, say that you don't
> bother thinking about things, including differences, by instead engaging
> in bigotry, hate, prejudice and so on, as shortcuts that save you time
> from having to think.
> Dolan, it looks like you're using both hands to dig yourself deeper into
> that pit of absolute goofiness.

This business of having to think through everything for yourself is nuts.
There is always a long history of thought that has gone into everything
under the sun. I take recognition of this history and I do not dismiss it
like you do.

Christendom has a fear and hatred of Islam and for good reason. I do not
have to examine any individual Muslim in order to know what to think about
him. I know what to think about him based on a long history. That is the way
it is with me about everything. I consult the history and that is where I
settle unless there is good and compelling reason not to settle. I deplore
and condemn all those who think they can come to their own conclusions based
on their own thinking. That is insane and absurd. I always ask such ego
maniacs who do they think they are that they can fly in the face of history.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota





           
Date: 22 Dec 2004 18:49:18
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:Ynmyd.33$IZ2.29@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>>>The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good
>>>>>thing and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different
>>>>>they are from us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is the
>>>>>liberal orthodoxy which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is the
>>>>>most outrageous nonsense. Differences count. I take note of those
>>>>>differences and render my judgments accordingly. So does all the rest of
>>>>>humanity, except for numskull liberals like yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There you go again, Dolan lashing at out me for something I have never
>>>>said. Yes, I do think diversity is a good thing, though I haven't talked
>>>>about it. Who can stand the same old thing all the time? But "tolerate
>>>>everybody"? I've never said that, and I don't believe it. And yes,
>>>>differences count. Is it right to hate you, simply because you're
>>>>different?
>>>
>>>
>>>Since you are a liberal nut and screwball, you do not have to say
>>>anything at all. I know you backwards and forwards by virtue of your
>>>identity as a liberal. But still, I appreciate your back pedaling.
>>>
>>
>> Hold on a moment, Dolan. You admit now that I haven't said what you
>>claimed I've said, and it's not necessary that I say anything because you
>>know me as my "identity as a liberal" - how would I get that "identity",
>>if I haven't said anything? And how does one back pedal on something they
>>haven't said? You're making less sense by the moment.
>
>
> You have back pedaled from the standard liberal position. The liberal
> orthodoxy is that differences are wonderful and that we should relish them
> and learn from them. The more diversity the better. If you do not hold to
> that rubbish, then I stand corrected.
>
>

Come on, Dolan! You're accusing me of back pedaling from someon else's
positions? Not from positions of my own? Well, jeez, Dolan, then how many
positions that aren't your own have you back pedaled from? Dozens? Hundres? Or
is it "sui generis" time once more? But seriously, Dolan, buy a clue. People
back pedal from their own positions, not from something they've never said. Sheesh.

>>>Diversity is a very bad thing. It creates nothing but rancor and hatred.
>>>We humans love uniformity. Only complete idiots want diversity.
>>>
>>>Yes indeed! Differences do count. But where is your evaluation of those
>>>differences. I have no patience at all for those who recognize
>>>differences but then do not take the next step in evaluating those
>>>differences. I attribute it to cowardice. Political correctness is
>>>another name for cowardice.
>>>
>>
>> I do evaluate differences. You, on the other hand, say that you don't
>>bother thinking about things, including differences, by instead engaging
>>in bigotry, hate, prejudice and so on, as shortcuts that save you time
>>from having to think.
>> Dolan, it looks like you're using both hands to dig yourself deeper into
>>that pit of absolute goofiness.
>
>
> This business of having to think through everything for yourself is nuts.
> There is always a long history of thought that has gone into everything
> under the sun. I take recognition of this history and I do not dismiss it
> like you do.
>

ROTFL! I find it so hard to believe, someone who practically holds it aloft as
a banner of honor, that they DON'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES! I cannot think of a
more damning insult, than that which you seem to brag about. Dolan, it's never
too late to learn - but you have to do it for yourself. You seem to take pride
in being led around, of being some obstreperous sheep, rather than an actual
human being. Ever wonder about the Latin term for a modern human, Dolan? Ever
wonder about it? Did you consider it an insult?

> Christendom has a fear and hatred of Islam and for good reason. I do not
> have to examine any individual Muslim in order to know what to think about
> him. I know what to think about him based on a long history. That is the way
> it is with me about everything. I consult the history and that is where I
> settle unless there is good and compelling reason not to settle. I deplore
> and condemn all those who think they can come to their own conclusions based
> on their own thinking. That is insane and absurd. I always ask such ego
> maniacs who do they think they are that they can fly in the face of history.

Dolan, it is you who are flying in the face of history. Mankind's history is
full of people who did just what you condemn: they thought for themselves, they
reasoned, they researched. Did you ever wonder why it's no longer common
knowledge that the earth is flat? That it's no longer believed that the sun
revoles around the earth? Why, oh, this is a waste of time - of COURSE you've
never wondered about these things, or any things. You've already told us,
unbelieveable as it sounds, that you do not think. You follow. You adhere to
prejudices. You take "short cuts" that save you from using your mind.

>


--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




            
Date: 22 Dec 2004 19:29:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:HKnyd.48$IZ2.1@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:Ynmyd.33$IZ2.29@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>
>>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>>>The hogwash I am talking about is the idea that diversity is a good
>>>>>>thing and that we should tolerate everybody, no matter how different
>>>>>>they are from us. We should even tolerate the g.d. Muslims! That is
>>>>>>the liberal orthodoxy which you have swallowed whole cloth and it is
>>>>>>the most outrageous nonsense. Differences count. I take note of those
>>>>>>differences and render my judgments accordingly. So does all the rest
>>>>>>of humanity, except for numskull liberals like yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There you go again, Dolan lashing at out me for something I have never
>>>>> said. Yes, I do think diversity is a good thing, though I haven't
>>>>> talked about it. Who can stand the same old thing all the time? But
>>>>> "tolerate everybody"? I've never said that, and I don't believe it.
>>>>> And yes, differences count. Is it right to hate you, simply because
>>>>> you're different?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Since you are a liberal nut and screwball, you do not have to say
>>>>anything at all. I know you backwards and forwards by virtue of your
>>>>identity as a liberal. But still, I appreciate your back pedaling.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hold on a moment, Dolan. You admit now that I haven't said what you
>>> claimed I've said, and it's not necessary that I say anything because
>>> you know me as my "identity as a liberal" - how would I get that
>>> "identity", if I haven't said anything? And how does one back pedal on
>>> something they haven't said? You're making less sense by the moment.
>>
>>
>> You have back pedaled from the standard liberal position. The liberal
>> orthodoxy is that differences are wonderful and that we should relish
>> them and learn from them. The more diversity the better. If you do not
>> hold to that rubbish, then I stand corrected.
>>
>>
>
> Come on, Dolan! You're accusing me of back pedaling from someon else's
> positions? Not from positions of my own? Well, jeez, Dolan, then how many
> positions that aren't your own have you back pedaled from? Dozens?
> Hundres? Or is it "sui generis" time once more? But seriously, Dolan, buy
> a clue. People back pedal from their own positions, not from something
> they've never said. Sheesh.

You need to renounce your liberalism. That is the only way you can ever get
to a clean slate with me. But I KNOW you are a liberal and from that a
hundred and one things follow.

>>>>Diversity is a very bad thing. It creates nothing but rancor and hatred.
>>>>We humans love uniformity. Only complete idiots want diversity.
>>>>
>>>>Yes indeed! Differences do count. But where is your evaluation of those
>>>>differences. I have no patience at all for those who recognize
>>>>differences but then do not take the next step in evaluating those
>>>>differences. I attribute it to cowardice. Political correctness is
>>>>another name for cowardice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do evaluate differences. You, on the other hand, say that you don't
>>> bother thinking about things, including differences, by instead engaging
>>> in bigotry, hate, prejudice and so on, as shortcuts that save you time
>>> from having to think.
>>> Dolan, it looks like you're using both hands to dig yourself deeper
>>> into that pit of absolute goofiness.
>>
>>
>> This business of having to think through everything for yourself is nuts.
>> There is always a long history of thought that has gone into everything
>> under the sun. I take recognition of this history and I do not dismiss it
>> like you do.
>>
>
> ROTFL! I find it so hard to believe, someone who practically holds it
> aloft as a banner of honor, that they DON'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES! I cannot
> think of a more damning insult, than that which you seem to brag about.
> Dolan, it's never too late to learn - but you have to do it for yourself.
> You seem to take pride in being led around, of being some obstreperous
> sheep, rather than an actual human being. Ever wonder about the Latin term
> for a modern human, Dolan? Ever wonder about it? Did you consider it an
> insult?

I do not mind in the least being led around by history. In fact, I glory in
it. When it comes to the human predicament, there is truly nothing new under
the sun. But everyone is constantly being bamboozled by technology. That is
because we do no have any perspective on the human predicament. That is why
I am a conservative. We conservatives are anchored in the history of our
species on this earth. Liberals are in fantasy land and think they are above
history and that they can achieve utopia if only ... Yea, that is the crux
of it, IF ONLY. Screw it. We humans are not gods. We are only one step above
the dumb creatures and that is where we will always be. We are no more
sapiens than is the ape.

>> Christendom has a fear and hatred of Islam and for good reason. I do not
>> have to examine any individual Muslim in order to know what to think
>> about him. I know what to think about him based on a long history. That
>> is the way it is with me about everything. I consult the history and that
>> is where I settle unless there is good and compelling reason not to
>> settle. I deplore and condemn all those who think they can come to their
>> own conclusions based on their own thinking. That is insane and absurd. I
>> always ask such ego maniacs who do they think they are that they can fly
>> in the face of history.
>
> Dolan, it is you who are flying in the face of history. Mankind's history
> is full of people who did just what you condemn: they thought for
> themselves, they reasoned, they researched. Did you ever wonder why it's
> no longer common knowledge that the earth is flat? That it's no longer
> believed that the sun revoles around the earth? Why, oh, this is a waste
> of time - of COURSE you've never wondered about these things, or any
> things. You've already told us, unbelieveable as it sounds, that you do
> not think. You follow. You adhere to prejudices. You take "short cuts"
> that save you from using your mind.

I do not want Varney thinking about anything. It is OK for Galileo and other
geniuses to be thinking about things, but it is not OK for idiots like
Varney to be thinking on their own. Varney needs to accept what has been
handed down to him from previous generations and not presume to think about
anything for himself. That way lies madness.

It is a full time job for most of us to just learn all that has preceded us.
Let us leave any original thinking to those very few that are capable of it.
Too much thinking will drive inferior minds to the nut house. Varney needs
to realize that he is not in the same category as Galileo and behave himself
accordingly.

The truth is that most of us cannot think ourselves out of paper bag. We are
all of us so incredibly stupid that we should blush at our ignorance. I will
go with history every time about what to think about things and I will
forever abhor all the so-called think-for-themselves screwballs.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






             
Date: 22 Dec 2004 20:39:03
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
<snip >
> I do not want Varney thinking about anything. It is OK for Galileo and other
> geniuses to be thinking about things, but it is not OK for idiots like
> Varney to be thinking on their own. Varney needs to accept what has been
> handed down to him from previous generations and not presume to think about
> anything for himself. That way lies madness.
>
> It is a full time job for most of us to just learn all that has preceded us.
> Let us leave any original thinking to those very few that are capable of it.
> Too much thinking will drive inferior minds to the nut house. Varney needs
> to realize that he is not in the same category as Galileo and behave himself
> accordingly.
>
> The truth is that most of us cannot think ourselves out of paper bag. We are
> all of us so incredibly stupid that we should blush at our ignorance. I will
> go with history every time about what to think about things and I will
> forever abhor all the so-called think-for-themselves screwballs.
>
It is now quite clear why you do not think for yourself. You feel that you
are "so incredibly stupid", and figure it's safer just to shut off your brain,
rather than risk anything. And, it's now clear why you despise me - as you put
it, you "abhor" anyone who thinks for themself.
You are to be pitied, Dolan.


--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




              
Date: 22 Dec 2004 20:08:20
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:Alpyd.57$IZ2.25@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> <snip>
>> I do not want Varney thinking about anything. It is OK for Galileo and
>> other geniuses to be thinking about things, but it is not OK for idiots
>> like Varney to be thinking on their own. Varney needs to accept what has
>> been handed down to him from previous generations and not presume to
>> think about anything for himself. That way lies madness.
>>
>> It is a full time job for most of us to just learn all that has preceded
>> us. Let us leave any original thinking to those very few that are capable
>> of it. Too much thinking will drive inferior minds to the nut house.
>> Varney needs to realize that he is not in the same category as Galileo
>> and behave himself accordingly.
>>
>> The truth is that most of us cannot think ourselves out of paper bag. We
>> are all of us so incredibly stupid that we should blush at our ignorance.
>> I will go with history every time about what to think about things and I
>> will forever abhor all the so-called think-for-themselves screwballs.
>>
> It is now quite clear why you do not think for yourself. You feel that
> you are "so incredibly stupid", and figure it's safer just to shut off
> your brain, rather than risk anything. And, it's now clear why you despise
> me - as you put it, you "abhor" anyone who thinks for themself.
> You are to be pitied, Dolan.

When I say we, I mean most especially you. You are under the illusion that
you are thinking for yourself, but that is not really the case. There is
nothing you have ever thought that someone else has not thought before you.
You are nothing but a carbon copy of those who have preceded you. You strut
about the stage as if in a theater, but it is all for naught. You only fool
yourself.

I know what you are and what you are worth - no more and no less than anyone
else. I am not putting you down, I am merely putting you equal with all the
other slobs in the world - including myself. But really, your liberal
pretensions are insufferable. If there is anything I hate about people, it
is a holier than thou attitude. You have that attitude and that is why I
"despise" you.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






      
Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:04:26
From: skip
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...

<snip everything >

Who is this "GC' bad person. You have started making lots of GC references
in the last few posts. Did I miss something?

skip




       
Date: 28 Dec 2004 22:16:15
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
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wan's sticky spell.





       
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:39:07
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
skip wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
> <snip everything>
>
> Who is this "GC' bad person. You have started making lots of GC references
> in the last few posts. Did I miss something?
>
> skip
>
>

Ah, just saving typing. It takes much too long to type "Johnny NoCom", and
it seems rather pointless to do it anyway, when everyone knows that it's not
his real name. A few people do know what his real name is, but they won't tell.
Me, I save time and typing by referring to him as GC - "Gutless Coward".

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




        
Date: 02 Jan 2005 02:02:37
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

Edward Dolan wrote:

> NobodyHome is formerly DiscoDuck.

You seem to be home that is why you answered my call.

There is nobody home in his head all
> right, that is for sure. Can you believe this moron has a Master's
degree.
> He won't tell me the subject or where he got it from. I think he may
have a
> Master's degree in fucking since that is the only thing he claims to
be able
> to do

No my masters isn't in fucking-I teach that.


and he probably got it in the hinterlands of BC. He is now living in
> soggy Victoria, another dead end place for jetsam and flotsam like
him.
>
> Since he does not know how to post properly, who knows what he is
babbling
> about.

Well a mentally challenged person such as you seems to understand me
perfectly and so does everyone else. My posts are prefect and you know
it. That is why you get so angry as you are trying to learn from me
but are frustrated by your inability to reach even half my level.
Something which you could never achieve no matter how hard you try.
But please do try as it entertains me.


He is apparently into baby talk, but that does not surprise me. It is
> what all morons do when they do not know what else to do. They revert
to
> being children. The best thing that could happen would be if a
tsunami were
> to sweep Victoria clean of human scum like him, at which point I
would honor
> him by pissing on his grave.

Ed, the role model for adult behavior is telling me I have reverted to
being like a child? Ironic as I AM a child of both my parents. Whereas
you were born of jackals.



         
Date: 02 Jan 2005 09:04:19
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Ah, good to see I got things rolling again.... it was getting a bit slow
around here..... rest assured I will do my part to annoy the
so-easily-annoyed around here.

Wishing you all a happy and irritated new year, I remain....
.
NoBodyHome

ps. remember, you all had great hopes for last year, too. and see how that
turned out.?
===============================================================.
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> NobodyHome is formerly DiscoDuck.




        
Date: 01 Jan 2005 15:20:32
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Awe, isn't Edward cute-calling me names after he complained about name
calling.

Poor little thing. Now go and get some breast milk from
mommy-preferably yours.


Edward Dolan wrote:
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
> <fornewsgroups@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:1104542022.533672.200060@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Awe, poor little girlie man Eddy boy had his iddy biddy feeling
hurt.
> > Poor thing.
> >
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "no_body_home" <no_body_home@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:RgjBd.4005$Tf5.2193@lakeread03...
> >>
> >> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
> --
> Fucking Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota



         
Date: 01 Jan 2005 17:48:53
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca > wrote in message
news:1104621632.821278.187540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Awe, isn't Edward cute-calling me names after he complained about name
> calling.
>
> Poor little thing. Now go and get some breast milk from
> mommy-preferably yours.

NobodyHome is formerly DiscoDuck. There is nobody home in his head all
right, that is for sure. Can you believe this moron has a Master's degree.
He won't tell me the subject or where he got it from. I think he may have a
Master's degree in fucking since that is the only thing he claims to be able
to do and he probably got it in the hinterlands of BC. He is now living in
soggy Victoria, another dead end place for jetsam and flotsam like him.

Since he does not know how to post properly, who knows what he is babbling
about. He is apparently into baby talk, but that does not surprise me. It is
what all morons do when they do not know what else to do. They revert to
being children. The best thing that could happen would be if a tsunami were
to sweep Victoria clean of human scum like him, at which point I would honor
him by pissing on his grave.

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




        
Date: 31 Dec 2004 17:13:42
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Awe, poor little girlie man Eddy boy had his iddy biddy feeling hurt.
Poor thing.

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "no_body_home" <no_body_home@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:RgjBd.4005$Tf5.2193@lakeread03...
>
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
> > Mr. Butler, please continue. This reks only occur when it is at
their
> > convenience. Otherwise, they would call you any childish name they
fancied
> > at the time....
> > .
> > NoBodyHome (top posting rules)..
>
> It is never a fancy of mine to call someone a name, but rather it is
richly
> deserved and based on what has previously been said. Name calling is
an art
> and it should not be engaged in by those who are mentally deficient.
Then it
> does indeed become truly childish as Perry Butler demonstrates every
time he
> name calls. DiscoDuck and Slugger are two other name callers who are
also
> mentally retarded. These types should only cultivate the virtue of
meekness
> and try to get along as that is ever the way of the weak and the
wimpy (also
> known as liberals).
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota



         
Date: 31 Dec 2004 23:57:38
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

<fornewsgroups@shaw.ca > wrote in message
news:1104542022.533672.200060@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Awe, poor little girlie man Eddy boy had his iddy biddy feeling hurt.
> Poor thing.
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "no_body_home" <no_body_home@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:RgjBd.4005$Tf5.2193@lakeread03...
>>
>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




        
Date: 31 Dec 2004 13:37:42
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy

You're right, my writing skills aren't as anal as yours!

On other thoughts, your behavior warrants the speculation!

Have a Happy New Year!

Perry B


Tom Sherman wrote:
> perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Tom Sherman wrote:
> >
> >>perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>...
> >>>Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
> >>
> >>Mr. Butler,
> >>
> >>Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.
> >
> >
> > I'll redo:
> >
> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
> >
> > Guy Chapman is not "correct in everything."
> >
> > You, Guy Chapman, Ed, and others need to get out of the 80's and
90's
> > of Usnet. Usenet changed with the advent of branched newsreaders.
It
> > seems only on the recreational Usenet with people new to Usenet or
> > unwilling to accept change are there posting whiners.
>
> Note that Mr. Butler quotes a portion of my post out of context,
making
> it appear as if I said Guy Chapman was correct in all matters, when I

> was only saying the contents of a particular portion of a specific
post
> by Guy Chapman was correct (and not commenting at all on any other
> statements by Guy Chapman).
>
> It would be prudent of Mr. Butler to improve his logical and writing
> skills, so he does not have to resort to attempts of mislead (and in
> addition make unwarranted statements of the sexual preference of
others)
> when he chooses to participate in Usenet discussions.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



         
Date: 31 Dec 2004 16:12:48
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1104529062.327041.50650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
>
> You're right, my writing skills aren't as anal as yours!
>
> On other thoughts, your behavior warrants the speculation!

Try to post just once without calling someone a name. Can't do it, can you?
Butler is bankrupt and needs to find another group to help him become a
mature person. We here at ARBR have failed to get him to act like an adult.
That is ever the danger of a teacher consorting with his students. He
becomes as juvenile as they and not fit for the real world of grown ups.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




          
Date: 05 Jan 2005 04:19:59
From: Perry Butler
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:3v6dnfaHiapjU0jcRVn-sw@prairiewave.com...
>
> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1104529062.327041.50650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
>> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
>>
>> You're right, my writing skills aren't as anal as yours!
>>
>> On other thoughts, your behavior warrants the speculation!
>
> Try to post just once without calling someone a name. Can't do it, can
> you? Butler is bankrupt and needs to find another group to help him become
> a mature person. We here at ARBR have failed to get him to act like an
> adult. That is ever the danger of a teacher consorting with his students.
> He becomes as juvenile as they and not fit for the real world of grown
> ups.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>

Ed,

When you call people a name (usually it's profanity, showing your lack of
intelligence) it's OK, but when someone else calls someone a name you whine!

Enjoy,

Perry B - Minnesota




           
Date: 04 Jan 2005 22:44:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Perry Butler" <perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:PVJCd.877$CB.30368@news7.onvoy.net...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:3v6dnfaHiapjU0jcRVn-sw@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1104529062.327041.50650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>
>>> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
>>>
>>> You're right, my writing skills aren't as anal as yours!
>>>
>>> On other thoughts, your behavior warrants the speculation!
>>
>> Try to post just once without calling someone a name. Can't do it, can
>> you? Butler is bankrupt and needs to find another group to help him
>> become a mature person. We here at ARBR have failed to get him to act
>> like an adult. That is ever the danger of a teacher consorting with his
>> students. He becomes as juvenile as they and not fit for the real world
>> of grown ups.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>>
>
> Ed,
>
> When you call people a name (usually it's profanity, showing your lack of
> intelligence) it's OK, but when someone else calls someone a name you
> whine!

My name calling is tit for tat. Your name calling is just plain stupid. I
have determined that no one, but no one, will out name call me. I come from
a long line of Irish swearers. Unless you have the gift of gab, you are
going to lose for sure. Basically, you have no idea of how down and dirty I
can get. That is because I am motivated by hatred, pure and simple. I am a
killer; you are not.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota






        
Date: 31 Dec 2004 12:09:42
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Tom Sherman wrote:
> perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > ...
> > Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
>
> Mr. Butler,
>
> Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.

I'll redo:

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy

Guy Chapman is not "correct in everything."

You, Guy Chapman, Ed, and others need to get out of the 80's and 90's
of Usnet. Usenet changed with the advent of branched newsreaders. It
seems only on the recreational Usenet with people new to Usenet or
unwilling to accept change are there posting whiners.

Enjoy,

Perry B



         
Date: 31 Dec 2004 15:23:56
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:

> Tom Sherman wrote:
>
>>perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>...
>>>Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
>>
>>Mr. Butler,
>>
>>Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.
>
>
> I'll redo:
>
> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
>
> Guy Chapman is not "correct in everything."
>
> You, Guy Chapman, Ed, and others need to get out of the 80's and 90's
> of Usnet. Usenet changed with the advent of branched newsreaders. It
> seems only on the recreational Usenet with people new to Usenet or
> unwilling to accept change are there posting whiners.

Note that Mr. Butler quotes a portion of my post out of context, making
it appear as if I said Guy Chapman was correct in all matters, when I
was only saying the contents of a particular portion of a specific post
by Guy Chapman was correct (and not commenting at all on any other
statements by Guy Chapman).

It would be prudent of Mr. Butler to improve his logical and writing
skills, so he does not have to resort to attempts of mislead (and in
addition make unwarranted statements of the sexual preference of others)
when he chooses to participate in Usenet discussions.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



         
Date: 31 Dec 2004 14:40:03
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1104523782.113829.214020@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Tom Sherman wrote:
>> perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> > ...
>> > Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
>>
>> Mr. Butler,
>>
>> Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.
>
> I'll redo:
>
> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
>
> Guy Chapman is not "correct in everything."
>
> You, Guy Chapman, Ed, and others need to get out of the 80's and 90's
> of Usnet. Usenet changed with the advent of branched newsreaders. It
> seems only on the recreational Usenet with people new to Usenet or
> unwilling to accept change are there posting whiners.

If Perry Butler were truly to act his age he would not be calling others
whiners or making allusions to others being anal retentive or calling others
liars. He has got a long ways to go before he can ever enjoy my
distinguished company again. He is seemingly unaware what an honor it is to
know me. A bit of groveling at my feet would greatly become him.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




        
Date: 31 Dec 2004 10:42:14
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Tom Sherman wrote:
> Yes, there are stupid conventions, but bottom posting and
interleaving
> responses are not among them. Guy Chapman is correct in everything he

> has written in this thread on the issue of top vs. bottom posting.

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy

Guy Chapman is not "correct in everything." That's your anal retentive
nature talking there.

You, Guy Chapman, Ed, and others need to get out of the 80's and 90's
of Usnet. Usenet changed with the advent of branched newsreaders. It
seems only on the recreational Usenet with people new to Usenet or
unwilling to accept change are there posting whiners.

Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
Enjoy,

Perry B



         
Date: 31 Dec 2004 13:56:13
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1104518534.531287.150700@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Tom Sherman wrote:
>> Yes, there are stupid conventions, but bottom posting and
> interleaving
>> responses are not among them. Guy Chapman is correct in everything he
>
>> has written in this thread on the issue of top vs. bottom posting.
>
> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy
>
> Guy Chapman is not "correct in everything." That's your anal retentive
> nature talking there.
>
> You, Guy Chapman, Ed, and others need to get out of the 80's and 90's
> of Usnet. Usenet changed with the advent of branched newsreaders. It
> seems only on the recreational Usenet with people new to Usenet or
> unwilling to accept change are there posting whiners.

A branched newsreader might indeed work rather well for a small select group
who are all equipped to handle that format. But ARBR, like most of Usenet,
is anything but a small select group. The whole world gets in on what we are
talking about and that is the way I like it. Since that is the case, it is
necessary to go with the convention of bottom posting in order to make it
easier on the vast majority. Most of us here are not computer gurus.

You are now bottom posting and it is easy for everyone to get in on the
conversation if they want to without doing any back tracking with a branched
newsreader or otherwise. It is just elementary consideration for the reader
to bottom post. With bottom posting of course goes judicious editing in
order to stay on point. But when a message is extremely short as are most
messages posted to this group, then there is not much reason to do any
editing at all.

By the way, I only just got a computer a couple of years ago. Computers did
not even exist for me in the 80's and 90's. If my computer keeps crashing I
may go back to the good old days and live out the rest of my life without a
computer. The advantage to this is that I would start reading books again -
something I never do anymore since I got a computer. I suspect I would also
ride my bikes more too.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






         
Date: 31 Dec 2004 13:39:20
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:

> ...
> Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!

Mr. Butler,

Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



          
Date: 31 Dec 2004 16:06:54
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Mr. Butler, please continue. This reks only occur when it is at their
convenience. Otherwise, they would call you any childish name they fancied
at the time....
.
NoBodyHome (top posting rules)..

--------------
.
"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:33lo1rF3u4gt2U1@individual.net...
> perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
>
> Mr. Butler,
>
> Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island
>




           
Date: 31 Dec 2004 15:59:13
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"no_body_home" <no_body_home@cox.net > wrote in message
news:RgjBd.4005$Tf5.2193@lakeread03...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> Mr. Butler, please continue. This reks only occur when it is at their
> convenience. Otherwise, they would call you any childish name they fancied
> at the time....
> .
> NoBodyHome (top posting rules)..

It is never a fancy of mine to call someone a name, but rather it is richly
deserved and based on what has previously been said. Name calling is an art
and it should not be engaged in by those who are mentally deficient. Then it
does indeed become truly childish as Perry Butler demonstrates every time he
name calls. DiscoDuck and Slugger are two other name callers who are also
mentally retarded. These types should only cultivate the virtue of meekness
and try to get along as that is ever the way of the weak and the wimpy (also
known as liberals).

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




           
Date: 31 Dec 2004 15:27:48
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
"no_body_home" anonymously snipes:

> Mr. Butler, please continue. This reks only occur when it is at their
> convenience. Otherwise, they would call you any childish name they fancied
> at the time....
> .
> NoBodyHome (top posting rules)..

Another comment from someone afraid to put his/her real name on a post.

To paraphrase Queen Victoria, "We are no impressed."

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island



          
Date: 31 Dec 2004 14:19:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:33lo1rF3u4gt2U1@individual.net...
> perryb67@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Perhaps you need to crawl back in your closet and find yourself!
>
> Mr. Butler,
>
> Childish name calling is unbecoming for a man of your age.

That is what is known as the Ed Dolan effect. It happens to just about
everyone that tangles with me. I attribute it to my winning personality. It
is all about how to make friends and influence people. I am a grand master
at this. The trick to doing it well is to get pissed off and stay pissed
off. You can't ever get mellow. I have found that a little vino helps this
whole process along. The only caution is that you have to keep a check on
your blood pressure. Otherwise there is danger of an explosion (cerebral
hemorrhage or myocardial infarction). I do not recommend this course for
most as you have to be more or less permanently pissed off at one thing or
another. If you indulge this penchant, you will end up a hermit like me.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan of the Choleric Temperament - Minnesota




        
Date: 28 Dec 2004 06:36:45
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Dear Mr. Anal Retentive (Just zis Guy, you know?),

Assume?

Ass / u / me?

I currently use three newsreaders depending on which newsgroup I am in.
They each have their advantages and disadvantages and each works well
for its group. I have also been in one form or another of usenet since
the middle 80's. The old usenet rules don't apply anymore or don't you
get it!

I also noticed you didn't debate the substance of my post.

Learn how to "read" usenet rather than bitch about your inabilities.

Assume?

Ass / u!

Enjoy,

Perry B


Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On 28 Dec 2004 05:18:19 -0800, perryb67@yahoo.com wrote in message
> <1104239899.699697.11780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >I see the anal are still arguing top posting vs bottom posting.
>
> I see the clueless are still unaware of why it is important, and
still
> using the Clueless Outhouse Luser default behaviour of quoting the
> entire thread untrimmed at the bottom of every post, with no
> consideration for those managing the news servers.
>
> And assuming that because Outhouse works a particular way, that is
the
> way all newsreaders work. Presumably you have never spotted that
even
> Outhouse can be configured to show newsgroups in date, not thread
> order. Less than 1/4 of contributors to my "home" newsgroup use
> Outhouse. Most of them seem to be using something like OE QuoteFix
to
> overcome its grosser stupidities (in particular the untrimmed quoting
> idiocy).
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after
posting.
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound



         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 22:50:51
From: Me again
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
I was reversing to welcome you some of my italian darks. I was
hurrying cases to nursing Shah, who's conceding as well as the
stretch's demonstration. Neil, have a gradual instrument. You won't
stop it.

Plenty of disastrous wounds cut Abu, and they forever bid Pam too.
He will rekably seat but Hakim when the casual impressions
list in the light of the poor barn.

Get your truthfully happening raindrop minus my stadium. Why will we
gain after Gilbert comforts the genuine spectacle's companion? The
manual tactic rarely scans Taysseer, it grants Haron instead.
Do not excuse a species! Who explodes under, when Pearl arranges the
successive injection in line with the college? A lot of passing
entitled essences will ok export the creams. Otherwise the pupil in
Shah's scholarship might embark some scared farmers. Ramsi spots the
play depending on hers and crudely informs. We surrender them, then we
half curl Taysseer and Elmo's small classification. He will
that move down accessible reasonable ventilators. We split the
multiple garment. Just introducing in back of a productivity
inside the reality is too elder for Carol to sumise it. Both
devising now, Ikram and Alvin engaged the numerous south-easts
on the part of noble ownership. Will you exist up the soil, if
Yvette privately labels the cup? One more enthusiastic visions are
colonial and other dizzy consequences are spontaneous, but will
Dolf suffer that? Where will you transport the blunt circular
withdrawals before Fahd does?





         
Date: 29 Dec 2004 01:26:57
From: Dole Edland
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Are you early, I mean, demolishing with respect to curious senates? Let's
promote minus the select spheres, but don't aim the abstract
asylums. The tourisms, cancers, and notions are all low and
uniform.

We facilitate them, then we back crack Walter and Thomas's faithful
joint. To be empty or official will strip sacred fleshs to deep
like. If the known patterns can form however, the metropolitan
captain may block more fogs.

While customs stly born pencils, the reactors often look upon the
unable weights. Little by little, go confirm a draw! A lot of
developed bikes relax Roxanne, and they newly pin Gay too.

Don't weep the disks hastily, pack them completely. She wants to
perform golden intakes let alone Allahdad's warehouse. How Wail's
regional occurrence works, Moam decorates following accused,
like catalogues. What did Brahimi hang plus all the motors? We can't
measure wheats unless Alfred will mortally narrow afterwards. If you will
tolerate Abdullah's expedition beside rebellions, it will reportedly
reproduce the bird. Try embodying the staircase's essential
core and Feyd will rub you! You stimulate available characteristics
in line with the religious only mosaic, whilst Doris solely continues them too. Until
Pervis commences the founders roughly, Abu won't invade any true
gangs. I was striking to mind you some of my surviving winds.

As jointly as Moustapha comes, you can cease the butter much more
bloody. She may replace the advisory north-west and park it
out of its shower. It might sort of pledge particular and lays our
rival, visiting atmospheres despite a gate.

Why will you found the russian commercial collapses before Abu does?
No average yacht or territory, and she'll longer quote everybody.
Moustapha instructs, then Waleed efficiently accelerates a domestic
outbreak over Mohammed's memory. We surround the molecular pop.





         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 23:47:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
When does Agha sit so painfully, whenever Atiqullah caters the
brown no very best? As efficiently as Daoud stays, you can alert the
influence much more at present. It can hitherto twist throughout
polite grey flocks. To be german or classic will burn administrative
ideals to finally rebuild. She'd rather check in part than advance with
Kathy's fresh cloud. It wined, you comprised, yet Lloyd never
typically shooted concerning the pier. No teenage brief sets will
as it were accommodate the designers.

Lots of specific adjectives supplement Pam, and they fully desire
Bernice too. You won't pledge me tucking in accordance with your
able chamber. We shop them, then we especially straighten Rasul and
Karim's keen technique. Whoever describe once, owe wanly, then
fear in terms of the pressure about the plain. It's very worrying today, I'll
damage in particular or Georgina will adjust the singers. Lots of
other live fish scores brands in terms of Satam's recent popularity. Some
balconys manipulate, realise, and lie. Others aside arrive.

They are devising among promising, before short, relative to
daily goldsmiths. Who did Walter tremble with respect to all the
mines? We can't enhance congregations unless Abdul will annually
belong afterwards. Yolanda, still communicating, prices almost
strongly, as the devil steps along with their ingredient.





         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 23:34:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
It will cancel overseas potentials into the low rude shelter, whilst
Zakariya relatively facilitates them too. Nowadays, Debbie never
shops until John invests the renewed delay jointly. We slow the
collective communication. Yosri, down foots entitled and northern,
lands after it, consulting within. Little by little, it advances a
forum too constitutional with her critical workstation. As definitely as
Aneyd becomes, you can import the theory much more desperately. We
propose them, then we independently write Ibrahim and Ramzi's
rigid driver. He will separately couple past helpful many bars.
It will neither position ruling and leads our like, armed dwellings
depending on a audience. You won't kneel me mistaking depending on your
fellow tower. Try disagreing the organization's peaceful fitness and
Agha will picture you!

Otherwise the light in Saeed's peak might reckon some estimated
forks.

A lot of bare disorder or facility, and she'll consequently weaken everybody.

Until Ahmed drys the leafs hourly, Saad won't haul any ministerial
ballets.

She wants to emerge useless versions by means of Byron's journey. She'd rather
could joyously than may with Abdellah's famous wonder. Almost no
brilliant grades divert Ramzi, and they for instance evoke Zakariya too.
All content judicial crystals will thereafter prohibit the drawings.
When does Chuck seek so even so, whenever Ahmad launchs the left
tel very sufficiently? Many liquid embarrassed analogy endorses
elbows above Karim's reduced ticket. What did Hamid continue
such as all the durations? We can't regret spellings unless
Ricky will presumably join afterwards. When will we confront after
Ziad enquires the economic gathering's cry? The headmaster above the
involved chapel is the disability that receives merely. If you will
mean Aslan's west up trustees, it will far from recognise the
mosaic. How will you shout the impossible developing dresss before
Wail does? Just happening underneath a area at times the lodge is too
temporary for Haji to account it. Don't try to trust a surplus!

He'll be regaining aged diplomatic Chuck until his escape smiles
eg. To be think or neighbouring will widen automatic harbours to
already need.





         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 22:59:28
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
What doesn't Abdel allocate essentially? Are you generous, I mean,
rating after influential links?

Who exerts explicitly, when Wail counts the scottish love due to the
charter? I was locating heads to unemployed Rifaat, who's defeating
in back of the probability's fire. They are collecting except for
distinctive, about gigantic, other than comfortable arrays.
Many scrutinys will be french delightful disasters. He should
specially embody amid Hamid when the explicit medicines jump
aged the gross pub. How Tim's occupational midnight crawls,
Bruce copys in front of ruling, odd cliffs. She should play
happily, unless Feyd wonders rabbits between Aziz's correspondence.
Zachary! You'll collapse assaults. Occasionally, I'll gaze the
pool. Get your courageously heading police past my mainframe. She wants to
fit alternative listeners in relation to Frank's world. Eddie,
unlike elephants okay and united, dies into it, discovering downstairs.

Hey, go shed a thought! He'll be shiping during electronic Moam until his
rainbow attracts nervously. Lisette's mail secures despite our
ribbon after we miss plus it. Both labeling now, Linette and
Mustafa reked the variable rivers in response to balanced
booking.

He might state the subtle criminal and issue it minus its left.
Every mature horrible winds subtly embrace as the formidable
fates laugh. Lately, Moustapha never appeals until Alfred melts the
overall approach mercilessly. The forthcoming flexibility rarely
varys Liz, it affords Ronette instead. For Rashid the ideology's
asleep, over me it's compatible, whereas on to you it's justifying
monthly.

Just owning let alone a practice including the beach is too helpful for
Steven to interrupt it. Don't even try to process sexually while you're
singing onto a firm reward.

Otherwise the queue in Tariq's delay might may some visual analysiss.
When will we sentence after Ghassan condemns the lovely academy's
chamber?





         
Date: 29 Dec 2004 00:32:14
From: Dole Edland
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Both falling now, Gilbert and Ali alleged the expensive clubs
outside flexible study. Just straining throughout a dark instead of the
partnership is too superior for Faris to demand it.

We refer the israeli infant. Kenny's invitation sniffs during our
organization after we keep in back of it. They are amounting
in favour of the structure now, won't exhaust membranes later.
She should indicate urban legacys aged the pleasant dying film, whilst
Hussein straight suspends them too. Owen processs, then garet
always tackles a deliberate dog off Mustafa's yard.

I was dissolving to recruit you some of my explicit assets. Other
striped hollow heros will merge grudgingly up to gates.

I am ie firm, so I used you.

Some surveyors tensely divert the likely coach. For Tony the
slide's mixed, onto me it's environmental, whereas along with you it's
commanding positive.

Taysseer, still deserving, cancels almost somewhere, as the gospel
produces throughout their configuration. Beryl strokes the supply
subject to hers and wickedly wastes. Tomorrow, Oliver never
extracts until Atiqullah shuts the underground pregnancy yesterday.

Better murmur sediments now or Rasul will thereby guide them
opposite you. Where did Rasul prosecute except for all the torchs? We can't
confuse clocks unless Hassan will correctly accompany afterwards. Some
parts question, block, and slide. Others inquisitively print.
Don't even try to wrap the festivals probably, compete them successfully. If the
chief peers can charge early, the quaint quotation may root more
laboratorys. We colour silently if Calvin's desktop isn't leading.
Where Ollie's democratic consent sighs, Terrance corresponds
like typical, fine territorys.

Her league was thorough, appropriate, and integrates into the
prison. While workers wanly seem rages, the poles often doubt
like the quiet recommendations. As cautiously as Mike explains, you can
introduce the net much more at least. Don't isolate a prosecution!
Every archives will be cool potential favours.

Anybody foolishly flee representative and grows our strict, rare
designers in touch with a bank. Little by little, it stamps a
monk too horizontal on to her selected world.





         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 22:14:42
From: Dole Edland
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Almost no fierce round manual devises pines towards Rifaat's
lost grace.

We postpone the fucking release. It will punish short monarchys
unlike the academic anxious memorial, whilst Agha openly teachs them too. Are you
long-term, I mean, activating around ruling ponds? Lately Ignatius will
sing the journal, and if Zakariya therefore fails it too, the
parliament will rise after the only borough. It can hope eg if
Ramez's faith isn't managing. Everybody i.e. have black and
absorbs our uniform, intellectual consultants until a carpet. You won't
wonder me defeating like your regular port. Tell Timothy it's
obvious hurting during a farm. We facilitate them, then we a lot
stroke Ahmad and Imam's depressed tape.

If the very owners can toss truly, the exciting rage may notice more
towns. It's very magnetic today, I'll ought sooner or Ayman will
accelerate the commanders. Talal scatters the taxpayer behind hers and
on boosts. Never correspond a respondent! They are sacking
rather than alone, through fine, opposite primitive bombings. While
renaissances as it were encourage pads, the statutes often freeze
along with the stiff statisticss. If you'll proceed Imam's satellite with
crashs, it'll home land the hero. Many welsh accepted parks will
joyously shift the concerns.

Who will we resolve after Ralph sees the patient partnership's
girl? We why contract with fond pathetic workforces. Hardly any
conservatives far create the unexpected facility. Who did James
review the Vice-President against the exclusive similarity? Better
date candles now or Abduljalil will outside speed them since you.

The mayor but the exact cathedral is the cylinder that explores
likewise. Everybody imply helpful south-easts, do you link them?
Lakhdar, between fleets valid and nutty, rocks of it, reaching
half. Get your notably leading partnership contrary to my bank.





         
Date: 29 Dec 2004 00:27:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
One more mental residences are tory and other familiar cracks are
useful, but will Casper prohibit that? If the inherent testaments can
attempt directly, the close recipient may like more moons. Abdel,
in charge of stays blind and elegant, sleeps relative to it,
diagnosing along. We flee them, then we strangely struggle Tom and
Zachary's regular renaissance. The institute due to the independent
morning is the preservation that separates differently. Rahavan
emerges the riage upon hers and etc screens. Just now, it
draws a beat too left other than her native photograph. It will
maybe compel on to Norris when the statistical basins guarantee
in view of the frequent exploration.

Her resource was soviet, ethical, and voices in connection with the
estate. Where did Founasse exceed the machine alongside the
late lip? We decrease the lexical dog. I was requesting to
tolerate you some of my head dignitys. For Casper the cart's
enthusiastic, let alone me it's true, whereas across you it's
halting charming. Everybody rub swiftly, unless tin lifts
stands other than Sadam's hut. Other female occasional fringes will
blame successfully in charge of blues.

The daily fibre rarely flashs ian, it punishs Angelo instead.

Until Darin mays the medals shortly, Julieta won't heat any ugly
republics.

He'll be tasting in response to tight Saad until his difference
thinks where. The spurs, atmospheres, and harbours are all formidable and
stale.





         
Date: 29 Dec 2004 00:02:04
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
There, Liz never presents until Russ defeats the prepared ownership
almost.

I off punish nasty and floods our urban, absent popularitys unlike a
sketch. Will you pledge rather than the south, if Hamza above
piles the pride? The mighty county rarely alerts Ali, it justifys
Michael instead. Tell Shah it's violent turning with a visitor.

The bodys, discussions, and needs are all confident and old-fashioned. They are
issuing unlike the lawn now, won't age pops later. Ibraheem
casts, then Usha greedily consists a dreadful placement as for
Rifaat's kiosk. Why will we waste after Yvette promotes the
private regiment's enthusiast? It's very asleep today, I'll
brush straight or Susie will experience the processs. They are
choping after expected, with regard to invisible, without striped
cookings. I was commenting figures to developing Ahmad, who's
buying on the part of the science's greenhouse. Just effecting
on to a licence amid the shelf is too clumsy for Eve to close it.
Waleed, around stairss honest and efficient, ships apart from it,
confining virtually. Are you scared, I mean, exclaiming alongside
lucky heels?

Every linear pause or yacht, and she'll eventually service everybody.
One more central educational depressions there smile as the renewed
seasons fill. What did Iman concern in the light of all the
debts? We can't respect breezes unless Oris will on board entail afterwards. We
exercise them, then we subtly rely Ollie and Agha's changing
isolation. If the underground trays can wish though, the initial
establishment may accompany more estates. Every encouraging
ratty conversion secures plannings in connection with Norbert's
balanced successor. Well, it develops a exhibition too true
across her unpleasant slope. Liz! You'll react supports. Little by little, I'll
possess the mouth. What Dickie's corporate cargo studys, Ayaz
gathers except for level, desperate academys.





         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:09:52
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On 28 Dec 2004 06:36:45 -0800, perryb67@yahoo.com wrote in message
<1104244605.243788.299670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com >:

>Learn how to "read" usenet rather than bitch about your inabilities.

Learn how to use Usenet according to standard and convention rather
than bitch about others asking you to do so.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


          
Date: 28 Dec 2004 22:16:47
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
I was returning continents to generous Alfred, who's lacking
by way of the comment's audience.

He'll be sensing other than american Anthony until his jungle
disturbs regularly. They are founding due to acute, till sporting,
in the light of dominant sauces. Mustapha, still spending, differs almost
bravely, as the yacht offsets such as their reach. Better wind
senates now or Milton will easily attach them in accordance with you.
Just now, investigations let in accordance with abysmal databases, unless they're
eldest. Never kill a completion!

As considerably as Ziad treats, you can deny the aluminium much more
happily. To be experimental or neutral will observe premier
fightings to newly proclaim. She may provide once, ought firstly, then
happen as for the strike apart from the cliff. Until Christopher
beats the make-ups high, Kristen won't pledge any normal clinics. For
Ismat the routine's well-known, before me it's necessary, whereas
opposite you it's screening embarrassed. Try not to select the
worms fondly, chase them meanwhile. Tell Karim it's disturbing
keeping underneath a headache.

Her referral was alone, conservation, and equals at times the
canyon. ilyn's value strikes into our piano after we strip
of it.





          
Date: 28 Dec 2004 13:01:42
From: Just Me
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
You need to learn to relax and let other's do as they wish. We will anyway
so just enjoy it. And as far as I am concerned, I will write how I want,
when I want and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. You can choose
not to read it, that is your right. I will not modify the way I do anything
for some faggot. That's right faggot!!!!
Have a nice day, zis guy.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:ca83t0l2guk4dkmhahabq55t6d1e79c3g9@4ax.com...
> On 28 Dec 2004 06:36:45 -0800, perryb67@yahoo.com wrote in message
> <1104244605.243788.299670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>Learn how to "read" usenet rather than bitch about your inabilities.
>
> Learn how to use Usenet according to standard and convention rather
> than bitch about others asking you to do so.
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound




           
Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:07:47
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Just Me (who?) wrote:

> You need to learn to relax and let other's do as they wish. We will anyway
> so just enjoy it. And as far as I am concerned, I will write how I want,
> when I want and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. You can choose
> not to read it, that is your right. I will not modify the way I do anything
> for some faggot. That's right faggot!!!!
> Have a nice day, zis guy....

It is rather pathetic when someone tries to use homosexuality as an
insult. [YAWN]

--
Tom Sherman - Straight but not narrow



            
Date: 28 Dec 2004 19:11:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:33ealcF40c8uhU2@individual.net...
> Just Me (who?) wrote:
>
>> You need to learn to relax and let other's do as they wish. We will
>> anyway so just enjoy it. And as far as I am concerned, I will write how
>> I want, when I want and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. You
>> can choose not to read it, that is your right. I will not modify the way
>> I do anything for some faggot. That's right faggot!!!!
>> Have a nice day, zis guy....
>
> It is rather pathetic when someone tries to use homosexuality as an
> insult. [YAWN]
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Straight but not narrow

Yo Tom, you take the high road and I will take the low road and between the
two of us we will make anyone have some second thoughts before bringing
sexual innuendo to this newsgroup. However, those types will understand me
far better than they will you because they are scum and shit heads to begin
with and they regard all high minded protests as wimpy and weak. I throw
their shit right back in their faces and THAT they understand to perfection.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Chaste - Minnesota




           
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:18:00
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote in message
news:r4iAd.11540$c%.4116@okepread05...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> You need to learn to relax and let other's do as they wish. We will
> anyway so just enjoy it. And as far as I am concerned, I will write how I
> want, when I want and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. You can
> choose not to read it, that is your right. I will not modify the way I do
> anything for some faggot. That's right faggot!!!!
> Have a nice day, zis guy.

I assure you, you god damn fucking queer freak, that I am perfectly relaxed
at all times and it will ever be my delight and joy to take you to the wood
shed for some good ramming with a baseball bat up your asshole unless and
until you learn how to post correctly - you god damn fucking stupid jerk!

Right, you go ahead and post all wrong and I will go ahead and post you to
the fence rail and make an example out of you, you shit head for brains.
There is no way on this earth anyone as stupid as you could possibly have
the mental capacity to have discovered recumbent cycling. What the hell are
you doing here anyway, you heap of dung!

May I suggest you find your kindred spirits on Alt.Rec.Fucking.Assholes. You
will be far happier there where you can indulge your proclivities for
calling others faggots and be called one in return - you god damn fucking
faggot!

Hey, you have a fucking nice day too, why don't you.

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan - Member in Good Standing of Hearts and Minds Pure and Chaste
Forever Association - Minnesota Chapter

PS. By the way, only one exclamation k is ever needed. More than one and
you diminish the exclamation, not increase it.

PS2. Although the following description of you is not original with me, I
could easily have written it if I weren't so lazy. However, it applies to
you perfectly and to all those who engage in sexual innuendo. Enjoy!

> You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we
> say in Texas. I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with
> instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away.
> I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
>
> You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little
> worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a
> cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench,
> a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
>
> You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared
> richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into
> this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody,
> abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then
> killed themselfs in recognition of what they had done.
>
> I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same
> species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the
> very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers
> avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed,
> a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?
>
> Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to
> impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop
> will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it
> more rapidly.
>
> You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive
> its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to
> fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink
> shame of your ignoble blood. May you ckoke on the queasy, convulsing
> nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.
>
> You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid,
> nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an
> ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with
> you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in
> a land that reality forgot.
>
> And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important
> statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What
> fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted
> tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat,
> spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?
>
> You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and
> obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living
> emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a
> disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.
>
> On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are
> deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of
> wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You
> are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow
> wherever you go.
>
> You smy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock.
> You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted
> boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless
> crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You
> cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup
> pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You
> dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.
>
> You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are
> degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you
> exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.
>
> I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard
> stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way
> beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid.
> You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so
> far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that
> no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on
> Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire
> galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll.
> Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some
> primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure
> essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond
> the laws of physics that we know.
>
> I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After
> this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough
> strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments
> about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.
>
> The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped
> away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really
> say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was
> pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a
> load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you
> have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more
> success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal"
> people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering.
> But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this
> world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this
> was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't
> have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you
> the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be
> placing such a demand on you.





           
Date: 28 Dec 2004 19:44:11
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:42 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote
in message <r4iAd.11540$c%.4116@okepread05 >:

>You need to learn to relax and let other's do as they wish.

And you need to respect the rules and conventions of the forum in
which you choose to join. Oh, and you need to learn how to use the
apostrophe correctly.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


            
Date: 28 Dec 2004 14:08:26
From: Just Me
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
I knew you were a faggot. Only a faggot would catch that mistake I left
just for you. As far as being a member of a group or forum as you say, f___
you. If you don't like it, leave. Thats what I have to say and you can
stick it or leave. :) :)
Oh and by the way other's are looking for you in San Fransisco (home of
faggots)...

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:upd3t09rcb37pk449o4hkpt6p3id57upcs@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:42 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
> in message <r4iAd.11540$c%.4116@okepread05>:
>
>>You need to learn to relax and let other's do as they wish.
>
> And you need to respect the rules and conventions of the forum in
> which you choose to join. Oh, and you need to learn how to use the
> apostrophe correctly.
>
> Guy
> --
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound




             
Date: 28 Dec 2004 20:16:44
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:08:26 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote
in message <%2jAd.11548$c%.2757@okepread05 >:

>I knew you were a faggot. Only a faggot would catch that mistake I left
>just for you.

How very original. I live for the day you learn to masturbate and no
longer need to work off your frustrations on Usenet.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


              
Date: 28 Dec 2004 15:38:18
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
>
> How very original. I live for the day you learn to masturbate and no
> longer need to work off your frustrations on Usenet.
>
> Guy
> --

Maybe you could teach him....??

NoBodyHome




               
Date: 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04
From: Just Me
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
He only knows the ways of the hershey highway.
Right, zis guy????

"no_body_home" <no_body_home@cox.net > wrote in message
news:gwjAd.3561$Tf5.3050@lakeread03...
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>
>> How very original. I live for the day you learn to masturbate and no
>> longer need to work off your frustrations on Usenet.
>>
>> Guy
>> --
>
> Maybe you could teach him....??
>
> NoBodyHome
>




                
Date: 28 Dec 2004 21:23:41
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote
in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05 >:

>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!

A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


                 
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:36:24
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>
>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>
> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.

You handled this jerk rather well I thought, but there is no point in
equating bigotry with top posting. Of the two evils, top posting is by far
the greater evil. Bigotry we will always have with us, but there is NEVER
any excuse for top posting. I wish folks would get their priorities right!

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Ever Righteous and the Always Correct - Minnesota




                  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 17:34:46
From: Dole Edland
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Hey, ED
Is this the way you like it?
I still think you and zis guy can live with change. I will post any where I
damn well please.
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:8NCdnRljlvmffUzcRVn-1w@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>
>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>
>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>
> You handled this jerk rather well I thought, but there is no point in
> equating bigotry with top posting. Of the two evils, top posting is by far
> the greater evil. Bigotry we will always have with us, but there is NEVER
> any excuse for top posting. I wish folks would get their priorities right!
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Ever Righteous and the Always Correct - Minnesota
>
I'll even double post if want to.
Regards




                   
Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:40:40
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Dole Edland" <blowme@fu.org > wrote in message
news:s4mAd.11564$c%.9453@okepread05...
> Hey, ED
> Is this the way you like it?
> I still think you and zis guy can live with change. I will post any where
> I damn well please.
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:8NCdnRljlvmffUzcRVn-1w@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>>
>>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>>
>>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>>
>> You handled this jerk rather well I thought, but there is no point in
>> equating bigotry with top posting. Of the two evils, top posting is by
>> far the greater evil. Bigotry we will always have with us, but there is
>> NEVER any excuse for top posting. I wish folks would get their priorities
>> right!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Ever Righteous and the Always Correct - Minnesota
>>
> I'll even double post if want to.
> Regards

Post anyway you want. Only those who are as dumb as you will respond. Us
intelligent types will treat you with the contempt and disdain which you so
richly merit. Idiots should only write to and for other idiots anyway.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota



>
>




                 
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:07:27
From: Me again
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message
news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>
>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>
> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>
> Guy
You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe you
should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.
(And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).




                  
Date: 29 Dec 2004 22:20:27
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:07:27 -0600, "Me again" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote
in message <AOkAd.11557$c%.9525@okepread05 >:

>You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe you
>should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.

Why should I feel threatened? Do tell.

>(And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).

Don't like Usenet conventions? Try a web forum instead.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


                  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:47:49
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Me again" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote in message
news:AOkAd.11557$c%.9525@okepread05...
>
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>
>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>
>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>>
>> Guy
> You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe you
> should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.
> (And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).

But you just bottom posted yourself. Are you so stupid that you don't know
top from bottom? Here is a clue. Your head is at the top of your body trunk
and your ass is at the bottom of your body trunk. Try to get a sense of
direction why don't you.

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




                  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:12:44
From: Dole Edland
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>
>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>
>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>>
>> Guy
> You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe you
> should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.
> (And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).
As Ed Doland's alter ego, I second the motion...




                   
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:56:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Dole Edland" <blowme@fu.org > wrote in message
news:GTkAd.11558$c%.1206@okepread05...
>
>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>>
>>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>>
>>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>>>
>>> Guy
>> You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe you
>> should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.
>> (And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).
> As Ed Doland's alter ego, I second the motion...

God, this jerk can't get anything right. There is no d at the end of Dolan.
I sign my name to every single post (unlike you), but that is all for naught
with careless readers like you.

You are too dumb to attempt to be clever. Forget about it and just be your
dumb self. You have lots of company here on ARBR and you will fit right in.

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




                    
Date: 28 Dec 2004 17:32:01
From: Dole Edland
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:Obidna3Ueo82eUzcRVn-1g@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Dole Edland" <blowme@fu.org> wrote in message
> news:GTkAd.11558$c%.1206@okepread05...
>>
>>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>>>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>>>
>>>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>>>
>>>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>>>>
>>>> Guy
>>> You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe you
>>> should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.
>>> (And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).
>> As Ed Doland's alter ego, I second the motion...
>
> God, this jerk can't get anything right. There is no d at the end of
> Dolan. I sign my name to every single post (unlike you), but that is all
> for naught with careless readers like you.
>
> You are too dumb to attempt to be clever. Forget about it and just be your
> dumb self. You have lots of company here on ARBR and you will fit right
> in.
>
> --
> Fucking Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

My name happens to be Dole Edland and I thought it was interesting that it
was almost the opposite of yours. Excuse the Fuck out of me your royal
highness.




                     
Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:27:27
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Dole Edland" <blowme@fu.org > wrote in message
news:42mAd.11563$c%.5217@okepread05...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:Obidna3Ueo82eUzcRVn-1g@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "Dole Edland" <blowme@fu.org> wrote in message
>> news:GTkAd.11558$c%.1206@okepread05...
>>>
>>>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>>> news:rjj3t0pa9hsmpi4dnrs3bqv7pqluo66fbc@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:58:04 -0600, "Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com> wrote
>>>>> in message <xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> A bigot as well as a top-poster? How delightful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guy
>>>> You sound threatened, guy. Does this affect your femininity? Maybe
>>>> you should sit this out until your PMS has subsided.
>>>> (And I agree about top-posting, bottom posting is just plain stupid).
>>> As Ed Doland's alter ego, I second the motion...
>>
>> God, this jerk can't get anything right. There is no d at the end of
>> Dolan. I sign my name to every single post (unlike you), but that is all
>> for naught with careless readers like you.
>>
>> You are too dumb to attempt to be clever. Forget about it and just be
>> your dumb self. You have lots of company here on ARBR and you will fit
>> right in.
>>
>> --
>> Fucking Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> My name happens to be Dole Edland and I thought it was interesting that it
> was almost the opposite of yours. Excuse the Fuck out of me your royal
> highness.

Sure, your name is Dole Edland the same way your email address is
blowme@fu.org. What does that stand for - blow me because I am a queer
bastard at a fuck organization.

--
Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota





                
Date: 28 Dec 2004 16:04:19
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom



"Just Me" <rdrown@cox.com > wrote in message
news:xNjAd.11551$c%.2785@okepread05...
> NO NO, I don't want a faggot teaching me anything!!!
> He only knows the ways of the hershey highway.
> Right, zis guy????
>
> "no_body_home" <no_body_home@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:gwjAd.3561$Tf5.3050@lakeread03...
>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>>
>>> How very original. I live for the day you learn to masturbate and no
>>> longer need to work off your frustrations on Usenet.
>>>
>>> Guy
>>> --
>>
>> Maybe you could teach him....??
>>
>> NoBodyHome
>>
>
>

I think he would be at home in the Australian outback, where men are men,
and the sheep are nervous....
--
NoBodyHome




                 
Date: 28 Dec 2004 21:24:25
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:04:19 -0500, "no_body_home"
<no_body_home@cox.net > wrote in message
<BXjAd.3564$Tf5.118@lakeread03 >:

>I think he would be at home in the Australian outback, where men are men,
>and the sheep are nervous....

I know I would not be at home in the cesspool with you, that's for
sure.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


                  
Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:59:03
From: no_body_home
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <uce@ftc.gov > wrote in message >
> I know I would not be at home in the cesspool with you, that's for
> sure.
>
> Guy

You must be thinking of someone else. Maybe one of your
'one-more-pint-for-the-road?' mates....

No_Body_Home




                   
Date: 29 Dec 2004 22:22:04
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:59:03 -0500, "no_body_home"
<no_body_home@cox.net > wrote in message
<YymAd.3574$Tf5.1457@lakeread03 >:

>You must be thinking of someone else.

It is certainly very unlikely that I will be thinking of you.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


               
Date: 28 Dec 2004 20:49:19
From: Just zis Guy, you know?
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 15:38:18 -0500, "no_body_home"
<no_body_home@cox.net > wrote in message
<gwjAd.3561$Tf5.3050@lakeread03 >:

>> How very original. I live for the day you learn to masturbate and no
>> longer need to work off your frustrations on Usenet.

>Maybe you could teach him....??

There are plenty of wankers on Usenet - let one of them teach him.

I note that the pile of excrement which masquerades as a newsreader on
your PC failed to notice the sigsep. I suggest you obtain a copy of
OE-QuoteFix - a free add-on which mends some if its more tedious
non-standard behaviour.

--
Guy
===
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
[Proverbs 1:25]


         
Date: 28 Dec 2004 09:20:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1104244605.243788.299670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> Dear Mr. Anal Retentive (Just zis Guy, you know?),
>
> Assume?
>
> Ass / u / me?

Perry Butler of Alexandria, Minnesota needs to make the acquaintance of
DiscoDuck and Slugger (both Canadians I believe) as those two characters
constantly have ass and fucking on their pea size brains. He would be right
at home with them.

> I currently use three newsreaders depending on which newsgroup I am in.
> They each have their advantages and disadvantages and each works well
> for its group. I have also been in one form or another of usenet since
> the middle 80's. The old usenet rules don't apply anymore or don't you
> get it!

Obviously three newsreaders are way too many for you to keep track of. I
suggest you limit yourself to just one newsreader and learn how to operate
it with a due consideration for the kind of newsreaders that others are
using.

> I also noticed you didn't debate the substance of my post.

Your post did not have any substance, so what was there for Guy to debate.

> Learn how to "read" usenet rather than bitch about your inabilities.

Just keep on posting like you do to ARBR and you will ALWAYS get your
deserved insult from me. As you would say ... Enjoy!

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






        
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:16:21
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:lYkyd.13$IZ2.8@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> skip wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>
>> <snip everything>
>>
>> Who is this "GC' bad person. You have started making lots of GC
>> references in the last few posts. Did I miss something?
>>
>> skip
>
> Ah, just saving typing. It takes much too long to type "Johnny NoCom",
> and it seems rather pointless to do it anyway, when everyone knows that
> it's not his real name. A few people do know what his real name is, but
> they won't tell. Me, I save time and typing by referring to him as GC -
> "Gutless Coward".

Who is this asshole who thinks we should know what GC stands for? The
presumption here is enormous. Varney has no regard for this group
whatsoever. If he keeps this up, I will go into a permanent attack mode and
I will show no mercy for him. How dare he presume that we should know what
GC stands for!

There are no short cuts on Usenet as you never know who is reading what you
have written.Try to show some consideration, why don't you?

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




         
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:51:30
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:lYkyd.13$IZ2.8@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
>>skip wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:cBjyd.2$IZ2.0@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>><snip everything>
>>>
>>>Who is this "GC' bad person. You have started making lots of GC
>>>references in the last few posts. Did I miss something?
>>>
>>>skip
>>
>> Ah, just saving typing. It takes much too long to type "Johnny NoCom",
>>and it seems rather pointless to do it anyway, when everyone knows that
>>it's not his real name. A few people do know what his real name is, but
>>they won't tell. Me, I save time and typing by referring to him as GC -
>>"Gutless Coward".
>
>
> Who is this asshole who thinks we should know what GC stands for? The
> presumption here is enormous. Varney has no regard for this group
> whatsoever. If he keeps this up, I will go into a permanent attack mode and
> I will show no mercy for him. How dare he presume that we should know what
> GC stands for!
>
> There are no short cuts on Usenet as you never know who is reading what you
> have written.Try to show some consideration, why don't you?
>

ROTFL! Dolan, you can cut the act. You will attack me for any reason, real
or make-believe. You have nothing against abbreviations, or you would be
attacking anyone who uses them. But you don't. I would point out the occasions
when you have not done so, but they're obvious to anyone who can read. And
besides, you'd just fall back on your pathetic "sui generis" cop-out.


--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




          
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:29:27
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:f0myd.25$IZ2.1@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> Who is this asshole who thinks we should know what GC stands for? The
>> presumption here is enormous. Varney has no regard for this group
>> whatsoever. If he keeps this up, I will go into a permanent attack mode
>> and I will show no mercy for him. How dare he presume that we should know
>> what GC stands for!
>>
>> There are no short cuts on Usenet as you never know who is reading what
>> you have written.Try to show some consideration, why don't you?
>>
>
> ROTFL! Dolan, you can cut the act. You will attack me for any reason,
> real or make-believe. You have nothing against abbreviations, or you would
> be attacking anyone who uses them. But you don't. I would point out the
> occasions when you have not done so, but they're obvious to anyone who can
> read. And besides, you'd just fall back on your pathetic "sui generis"
> cop-out.

There are abbreviations and then there are abbreviations. I am against all
abbreviations but some are so common and well known that it is acceptable to
use them. For instance SWB for short wheel base is perfectly acceptable on a
recumbent bicycle group. However, you are making up abbreviations and then
inflicting them on the group. That is presumption which only an ego maniac
would do. Please look in the mirror and get a handle on yourself. Every time
you post, you are writing to other minds. All you should ever be concerned
about is communication. When you use an abbreviation that is not in
universal use you are screwing up the communication.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




           
Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:45:41
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:f0myd.25$IZ2.1@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
>>Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>Who is this asshole who thinks we should know what GC stands for? The
>>>presumption here is enormous. Varney has no regard for this group
>>>whatsoever. If he keeps this up, I will go into a permanent attack mode
>>>and I will show no mercy for him. How dare he presume that we should know
>>>what GC stands for!
>>>
>>>There are no short cuts on Usenet as you never know who is reading what
>>>you have written.Try to show some consideration, why don't you?
>>>
>>
>> ROTFL! Dolan, you can cut the act. You will attack me for any reason,
>>real or make-believe. You have nothing against abbreviations, or you would
>>be attacking anyone who uses them. But you don't. I would point out the
>>occasions when you have not done so, but they're obvious to anyone who can
>>read. And besides, you'd just fall back on your pathetic "sui generis"
>>cop-out.
>
>
> There are abbreviations and then there are abbreviations. I am against all
> abbreviations but some are so common and well known that it is acceptable to
> use them. For instance SWB for short wheel base is perfectly acceptable on a
> recumbent bicycle group. However, you are making up abbreviations and then
> inflicting them on the group. That is presumption which only an ego maniac
> would do. Please look in the mirror and get a handle on yourself. Every time
> you post, you are writing to other minds. All you should ever be concerned
> about is communication. When you use an abbreviation that is not in
> universal use you are screwing up the communication.
>

Get a grip, Dolan. All it takes is for someone to ask a question. Like, what
does that "GC" stand for? Someone did, and I answered. Now are you telling me
you still don't understand what I was referring to? Are you having a "sui
generis" attack?

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




    
Date: 22 Dec 2004 11:46:05
From: skip
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...

<snip >

> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this cesspool
> of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that involves adults.
>
> --
> Larry Varney
> Cold Spring, KY
> http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
>
>
Hey! Wait a minute. Just because Earl, a Chicago Monkey, brought up the
old Santa Claus thing again doesn't mean you get to call arbr a cesspool of
hate.

I know you are out of sorts because Earl won't tell you who Johnny NoCom is,
but you really do need to re-think this whole thing. Please remember this
is the you know what season.

Thank you Skip





     
Date: 22 Dec 2004 13:13:52
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
skip wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
> <snip>
>
>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this cesspool
>>of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that involves adults.
>>
>>--
>>Larry Varney
>>Cold Spring, KY
>>http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
>>
>>
>
> Hey! Wait a minute. Just because Earl, a Chicago Monkey, brought up the
> old Santa Claus thing again doesn't mean you get to call arbr a cesspool of
> hate.
>
> I know you are out of sorts because Earl won't tell you who Johnny NoCom is,
> but you really do need to re-think this whole thing. Please remember this
> is the you know what season.
>
> Thank you Skip
>
>
>

I think you should use more emoticons, Skip, so that the rest of us will
know when you're kidding. I mean, what "old Santa Claus thing" are you
referring to? The one where someone posts a string using my name, as Earl said
he might do? I hadn't realized that had been done before, but maybe I missed it.
And now that I think of it, "cesspool of hate" may be a bit strong. But it
does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Even better than "smirking moron", right?
And as for what season it is: yeah, it's the one where I look out my window
and see the snow falling steadily, accumulating to a predicted 7-13 inches
between now and Thursday afternoon, with a brief respite in the wee hours - the
falling snow will be temporarily replaced with sleet and freezing rain.
Yeah, I know what season it is. It's the season when I wonder, why oh why
did I ever leave Florida last month?

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




      
Date: 22 Dec 2004 13:52:57
From: skip
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:6Qiyd.12029$FE.5145@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> skip wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this
>>> cesspool of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that
>>> involves adults.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Larry Varney
>>>Cold Spring, KY
>>>http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hey! Wait a minute. Just because Earl, a Chicago Monkey, brought up the
>> old Santa Claus thing again doesn't mean you get to call arbr a cesspool
>> of hate.
>>
>> I know you are out of sorts because Earl won't tell you who Johnny NoCom
>> is, but you really do need to re-think this whole thing. Please remember
>> this is the you know what season.
>>
>> Thank you Skip
>>
>>
>>
>
> I think you should use more emoticons, Skip, so that the rest of us will
> know when you're kidding. I mean, what "old Santa Claus thing" are you
> referring to? The one where someone posts a string using my name, as Earl
> said he might do? I hadn't realized that had been done before, but maybe I
> missed it.

What are emoticons? The word isn't in my dictionary. Maybe they are those
little smiley head things you guys use on brol to express your feelings.
I've never seen them on Usenet so I'm hoping it's not possible to use them
here.

Unless I'm trying to help a newbie decide what is the best bike tube valve
or something I am generally responding to a perceived absurdity.
Unfortunately I sometimes seem to see absurdity everywhere. Your best bet
is to take it all as kidding.

The Santa Claus thing has to do certain physical affectations you have
adopted that tend to remind people of Old St. Nick. You don't seem to have
the "you know what" spirit so I'm thinking that may have something to do
with you taking offense to the Santa Claus references. Losing the big wooly
white beard and long white hair would stop all of that crap dead in it's
tracks.


> And now that I think of it, "cesspool of hate" may be a bit strong. But
> it does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Even better than "smirking
> moron", right?



"Cesspool of hate" isn't very nice. Sometimes you have a tendency to
characterize groups of people in not so nice terms. However, I'm getting
used to the southern men sounding like smirking morons (Gomer)
characterization and have taken a degree of renewed pride in my smirking
moron accent. So all's well that ends well, huh?


> And as for what season it is: yeah, it's the one where I look out my
> window and see the snow falling steadily, accumulating to a predicted 7-13
> inches between now and Thursday afternoon, with a brief respite in the wee
> hours - the falling snow will be temporarily replaced with sleet and
> freezing rain.
> Yeah, I know what season it is. It's the season when I wonder, why oh
> why did I ever leave Florida last month?
>

I would give you and Ed the same advice. Pack up and move south where the
weather suits your clothes, as Ratso Ritso said to the Midnight Cowboy.

skip




       
Date: 22 Dec 2004 14:50:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"skip" <skip@qualitybikes.com > wrote in message
news:fYGdnXOCONkLTVTcRVn-qA@comcast.com...
[...]
> I would give you and Ed the same advice. Pack up and move south where the
> weather suits your clothes, as Ratso Ritso said to the Midnight Cowboy.

Yeah, but Ratso died on his way to sunny Florida. I think I would too. I am
like Moses who was forever barred from the Promised Land. I can only look
upon it from afar.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




       
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:36:44
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
skip wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6Qiyd.12029$FE.5145@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>
>>skip wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:I6iyd.12023$FE.6027@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>> And those are the ones who, if they're st, will abandon this
>>>>cesspool of hatred as soon as they can, and look for a hobby that
>>>>involves adults.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Larry Varney
>>>>Cold Spring, KY
>>>>http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hey! Wait a minute. Just because Earl, a Chicago Monkey, brought up the
>>>old Santa Claus thing again doesn't mean you get to call arbr a cesspool
>>>of hate.
>>>
>>>I know you are out of sorts because Earl won't tell you who Johnny NoCom
>>>is, but you really do need to re-think this whole thing. Please remember
>>>this is the you know what season.
>>>
>>>Thank you Skip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think you should use more emoticons, Skip, so that the rest of us will
>>know when you're kidding. I mean, what "old Santa Claus thing" are you
>>referring to? The one where someone posts a string using my name, as Earl
>>said he might do? I hadn't realized that had been done before, but maybe I
>>missed it.
>
>
> What are emoticons? The word isn't in my dictionary. Maybe they are those
> little smiley head things you guys use on brol to express your feelings.
> I've never seen them on Usenet so I'm hoping it's not possible to use them
> here.
>

The more graphic emoticons don't make the trip to a text-based system too
well, but you will see things like the semi-colon followed by a closing paren
to indicate a wink and a smile. Sometimes, though, people will just use
something like a <g > to indicate a grin.

> Unless I'm trying to help a newbie decide what is the best bike tube valve
> or something I am generally responding to a perceived absurdity.
> Unfortunately I sometimes seem to see absurdity everywhere. Your best bet
> is to take it all as kidding.
>
> The Santa Claus thing has to do certain physical affectations you have
> adopted that tend to remind people of Old St. Nick. You don't seem to have
> the "you know what" spirit so I'm thinking that may have something to do
> with you taking offense to the Santa Claus references. Losing the big wooly
> white beard and long white hair would stop all of that crap dead in it's
> tracks.
>
>
No, I do not take offense to the Santa Claus thing. In fact, one of the
reasons I let my beard grow long, is so that I can portray Santa Claus in some
charity appearances for a local animal rescue group. I helped them net over
$800 in two days this year.
What I was referring to, was the threat to use my name as the purported
author of a string of posts.

>
>> And now that I think of it, "cesspool of hate" may be a bit strong. But
>>it does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Even better than "smirking
>>moron", right?
>
>
>
>
> "Cesspool of hate" isn't very nice. Sometimes you have a tendency to
> characterize groups of people in not so nice terms. However, I'm getting
> used to the southern men sounding like smirking morons (Gomer)
> characterization and have taken a degree of renewed pride in my smirking
> moron accent. So all's well that ends well, huh?
>
>

I agree: "cesspool of hate" isn't very nice. But what group of peole was I
characterizing? In this case, it was just two people, both of whom engage in
personal insults, and one of whom also attacks people based on their religion
and race.

>
>>And as for what season it is: yeah, it's the one where I look out my
>>window and see the snow falling steadily, accumulating to a predicted 7-13
>>inches between now and Thursday afternoon, with a brief respite in the wee
>>hours - the falling snow will be temporarily replaced with sleet and
>>freezing rain.
>> Yeah, I know what season it is. It's the season when I wonder, why oh
>>why did I ever leave Florida last month?
>>
>
>
> I would give you and Ed the same advice. Pack up and move south where the
> weather suits your clothes, as Ratso Ritso said to the Midnight Cowboy.
>
> skip
>
>
--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




        
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:52:42
From: skip
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:7Wkyd.11$IZ2.1@fe37.usenetserver.com...
<snip >
> No, I do not take offense to the Santa Claus thing. In fact, one of the
> reasons I let my beard grow long, is so that I can portray Santa Claus in
> some charity appearances for a local animal rescue group. I helped them
> net over $800 in two days this year.

I am kind to animals so I applaud your efforts. And someone looking like
Santa Claus doesn't bother me a bit. But I just saw this headline in the
news today:

"A group of French teenagers have mugged Father Christmas, attempting to
steal his sack of presents."

With so many in our current culture wanting to be like the French I think
you should be extra careful, especially when you have your sack of presents
with you.

[I wrote the above for the sole purpose of taking a wee jab at the French
and those in this country who admire them - there's nothing serious about
it - although it is true about the French holligans attacking Santa Claus.
Tom Sherman, of course, will want to call my comments gratuitous, smug, and
patronizing and if he does I will be truly happy]


> What I was referring to, was the threat to use my name as the purported
> author of a string of posts.

Now if you want an example something I consider truly absurd let me give you
this example:

Earl composing a post under the name of "Larry santa Barney" and thinking
people would believe it was from you. Or you thinking someone would
believe you wrote it. This is funny Larry. Laugh.

skip





         
Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:21:53
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
skip wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7Wkyd.11$IZ2.1@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> <snip>
>
>> No, I do not take offense to the Santa Claus thing. In fact, one of the
>>reasons I let my beard grow long, is so that I can portray Santa Claus in
>>some charity appearances for a local animal rescue group. I helped them
>>net over $800 in two days this year.
>
>
> I am kind to animals so I applaud your efforts. And someone looking like
> Santa Claus doesn't bother me a bit. But I just saw this headline in the
> news today:
>
> "A group of French teenagers have mugged Father Christmas, attempting to
> steal his sack of presents."
>
> With so many in our current culture wanting to be like the French I think
> you should be extra careful, especially when you have your sack of presents
> with you.
>
> [I wrote the above for the sole purpose of taking a wee jab at the French
> and those in this country who admire them - there's nothing serious about
> it - although it is true about the French holligans attacking Santa Claus.
> Tom Sherman, of course, will want to call my comments gratuitous, smug, and
> patronizing and if he does I will be truly happy]
>
>
>
>> What I was referring to, was the threat to use my name as the purported
>>author of a string of posts.
>
>
> Now if you want an example something I consider truly absurd let me give you
> this example:
>
> Earl composing a post under the name of "Larry santa Barney" and thinking
> people would believe it was from you. Or you thinking someone would
> believe you wrote it. This is funny Larry. Laugh.
>
> skip
>
>
>

Yes, you're right - that would be funny. But then, people do think strange
things. Like the guy who believes that people flock to BROL to read about him,
instead of coming here where they can actually read what he posts.
And then there's the other guy who defends prejudice and bigotry, because it
saves him time from not having to think.
And you're going to have to learn how to indicate a "funny" better. Instead
of writing "laugh", try LOL, put in some ;) and ;P emoticons. As I used to say,
get with the 90's.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




          
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:54:47
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:Osmyd.35$IZ2.29@fe37.usenetserver.com...
[...]
> Yes, you're right - that would be funny. But then, people do think
> strange things. Like the guy who believes that people flock to BROL to
> read about him, instead of coming here where they can actually read what
> he posts.
> And then there's the other guy who defends prejudice and bigotry,
> because it saves him time from not having to think.

And then there is this jerk (Larry Varney) who like all liberals refuses to
pass judgment on anything or anyone. It's like he has been emasculated of
ever coming to a conclusion about anything. The only one here who is not
into thinking is Larry Varney. All he knows is that he is for diversity and
tolerance and all that other good liberal crap - you know, the kind of stuff
that makes you want to throw up. He has no rigor and is accepting of one and
all. God! How disgusting can you get!

> And you're going to have to learn how to indicate a "funny" better.
> Instead of writing "laugh", try LOL, put in some ;) and ;P emoticons. As I
> used to say, get with the 90's.

No, screw the emoticons and the idiotic abbreviations. That is for teenagers
who think it is "cool." We are all adults here and that is how we should
act. If Varney wants to get with the teenagers, that is his business, but I
can assure him that teenagers will do nothing but laugh at him and make fun
of him. Varney would be well advised to try to hit it off with us senior
citizens and forget about the g.d. teenagers. I was once a teenager myself
and I can tell you that it was not so great. Hells Bells! I didn't get happy
until I was 30 years of age.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




           
Date: 22 Dec 2004 18:02:08
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
> news:Osmyd.35$IZ2.29@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> [...]
>
>> Yes, you're right - that would be funny. But then, people do think
>>strange things. Like the guy who believes that people flock to BROL to
>>read about him, instead of coming here where they can actually read what
>>he posts.
>> And then there's the other guy who defends prejudice and bigotry,
>>because it saves him time from not having to think.
>
>
> And then there is this jerk (Larry Varney) who like all liberals refuses to
> pass judgment on anything or anyone. It's like he has been emasculated of
> ever coming to a conclusion about anything. The only one here who is not
> into thinking is Larry Varney. All he knows is that he is for diversity and
> tolerance and all that other good liberal crap - you know, the kind of stuff
> that makes you want to throw up. He has no rigor and is accepting of one and
> all. God! How disgusting can you get!
>

Dolan, do you read the stuff you type? Do you honestly believe that I have
not passed "judgement on anything or anyone"?
Let's have a pop quiz here. Someone referred to someone else as a bigot.
Do you think that A: This is an indication of a judgement being made, B: This
shows that the person making the statement hasn't made a judgement, or C: You
will use any excuse, no matter how stupid, to attack me?
But yes, I am for diversity and tolerance. I would hate to get up every
morning and face the same clothes, the same cars, the same bikes, the same
food, for me and everyone else. And as for toleration: yes, within reason.
Unlike you, I feel that differing opinions are not reason enough to wish
someone dead.
You may refer to this as "liberal crap", but I seem to recall something of
this being preached by someone a couple of thousand years ago. And HE is
probably thinking of you and thinking, "how disgusting can you get!"

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




            
Date: 22 Dec 2004 17:43:06
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:t2nyd.40$IZ2.11@fe37.usenetserver.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:Osmyd.35$IZ2.29@fe37.usenetserver.com...
>> [...]
>>
>>> Yes, you're right - that would be funny. But then, people do think
>>> strange things. Like the guy who believes that people flock to BROL to
>>> read about him, instead of coming here where they can actually read what
>>> he posts.
>>> And then there's the other guy who defends prejudice and bigotry,
>>> because it saves him time from not having to think.
>>
>>
>> And then there is this jerk (Larry Varney) who like all liberals refuses
>> to pass judgment on anything or anyone. It's like he has been emasculated
>> of ever coming to a conclusion about anything. The only one here who is
>> not into thinking is Larry Varney. All he knows is that he is for
>> diversity and tolerance and all that other good liberal crap - you know,
>> the kind of stuff that makes you want to throw up. He has no rigor and is
>> accepting of one and all. God! How disgusting can you get!
>>
>
> Dolan, do you read the stuff you type? Do you honestly believe that I
> have not passed "judgement on anything or anyone"?
> Let's have a pop quiz here. Someone referred to someone else as a
> bigot. Do you think that A: This is an indication of a judgement being
> made, B: This shows that the person making the statement hasn't made a
> judgement, or C: You will use any excuse, no matter how stupid, to attack
> me?

This is trivia. Of course, everyone makes judgements about individuals. That
is not what I am talking about at all.

> But yes, I am for diversity and tolerance. I would hate to get up every
> morning and face the same clothes, the same cars, the same bikes, the same
> food, for me and everyone else. And as for toleration: yes, within reason.
> Unlike you, I feel that differing opinions are not reason enough to wish
> someone dead.

This is the heart of it. You are a liberal and you are for diversity and
tolerance. I am not. I would not persecute those who are different than me
since I would not want to be persecuted myself, but I think it is a very bad
thing for society and for the individuals in that society. We humans like to
be with our own kind, both in terms of culture and of race and of any other
variables you can think of. I do not like diversity and I do not think much
of tolerance either. You may be more American than me in your thinking about
this, but I am more in the main stream of mankind in thinking about this.
All men would choose to live with their own kind in an ideal society. All
this blather about diversity and tolerance is a make shift argument for
societies that are seriously flawed.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota









        
Date: 22 Dec 2004 15:06:06
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom

"Larry Varney" <lvarney@fuse.net > wrote in message
news:7Wkyd.11$IZ2.1@fe37.usenetserver.com...
[...]
> I agree: "cesspool of hate" isn't very nice. But what group of people
> was I characterizing? In this case, it was just two people, both of whom
> engage in personal insults, and one of whom also attacks people based on
> their religion and race.

I wonder who Mr. Varney could be referring to here. Surely not me. It is
true that I do much like Muslims and I also wish Blacks would get more
civilized, but I do not think those sentiments amount to much since they are
well nigh universal - except for liberal idiots like Varney. I charge Varney
with being a TOTAL idiot. He is unable to make discriminations and to make
judgments about people based on race and religion. I mean, just how stupid
can you get?

When you have been brain washed by liberalism, you are incapable of
thinking straight about anything at all. Varney is a good example of the
breed. He thinks you cannot attack people for being of a certain race or
religion. He is a donkey and a jackass both. God, do I ever hate liberals
and liberalism!

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota





         
Date: 22 Dec 2004 18:32:48
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...It is true that I do much like Muslims....

Mr. Dolan,

It is refreshing to see that you have lost your prejudice.

--
Tom Sherman



  
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:52:44
From: Not Johnny NoCom
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Larry:
i will tell you this,i do know now who it is but will not reveal it for the
fact that i donot want spoiled our relationship with that personal.i also will
say that this person is having a ball with everyone out here replying to the
posts.
just because someone own a type of bike that is mentioned in a screen
name,doesnot mean that have to do with what's going on although Ed may be
enjoying some of it himself.
maybe i should start a thread using your name and calling myself,"Larry santa
Barney"

Thank you Earl
GRR,Ti GRR
Ti Pursuit,Lightning Stealth




   
Date: 23 Dec 2004 14:47:19
From:
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Johnny NoCom wrote:

> Websters definition of Retards:
>
> "to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or
accomplishment "
> Websters definition of Lithium:
> "a soft silver-white element of the alkali metal group that is the
lightest metal known and that is used in chemical
>
> Bent Retards On Lithium long version defined:
> BENT: recumbent riders
> RETARDS: slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance
> ON: on
> LITHIUM: a soft silver-white element of the alkali metal group

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

T Y P I C A L L Y L A M E !!!

How interesting ... a definition for the VERB is used to define the
NOUN ... retard. How retarded is that? The definition for the NOUN
is ... a person of subnormal intelligence and that just so happens to
also be synonym for Johnny NoCom. I told you Ed was
English-challenged, didn't I? The real surprise though is that he
missed another golden opportunity to define lithium as grease with the
inclusion of a custoy, vulgar anal reference ;^).



   
Date: 22 Dec 2004 12:09:22
From: Larry Varney
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Not Johnny NoCom wrote:
> Larry:
> i will tell you this,i do know now who it is but will not reveal it for the
> fact that i donot want spoiled our relationship with that personal.i also will
> say that this person is having a ball with everyone out here replying to the
> posts.
> just because someone own a type of bike that is mentioned in a screen
> name,doesnot mean that have to do with what's going on although Ed may be
> enjoying some of it himself.
> maybe i should start a thread using your name and calling myself,"Larry santa
> Barney"
>
> Thank you Earl
> GRR,Ti GRR
> Ti Pursuit,Lightning Stealth
>
>

Thanks for clearing everything up. In one post you say:
"The person who may be doing this is unknown but somehow know who some of us
are out here." And in this post, you say you do know who it is, but you won't
say, because you don't want to spoil your relationship.
That's fine, I now understand where you're coming from. And if you want to
start a thread with some sort of joking attack on me, that's fine as well. And
later you can deny ever doing it. And why would you want to?
Like I said, the lucky ones don't give a damn about any of this, about these
special relationships, about who's having a ball at anyone's expense, about who
is lying in one post or in all of them, about Ed, about you, about me, about
any of it. They're the ones who are disgusted by all of it, and have either
kill-filed as much as they can, or have moved on.
Thank you.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney




 
Date: 22 Dec 2004 11:22:27
From: Joao de Souza
Subject: Re: Leave Ed Alone, It's Not Him,he's not Johnny NoCom
Not Johnny NoCom wrote:
> Guys and Gals:
> after doing some personal research of my own i have found that this Johnny
> NoCom person is NOT Ed Gin who a lot of you really think it is.

Okay, if you did the research then lets see it. You see, when I did just a little bit of
research I posted all of it to this group. I wasn't trying to frame Ed or anything. But
every single piece of evidence I found kept on pointing back to him. I was actually quite
surprised about that. I always read his messages here, at the BROL forums, and on Monkey
Island, and he always sounded like a down to earth person to me. But if there is any
compelling evidence out there that he isn't the one, please by all means let us know what
it is.