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Date: 19 Dec 2006 02:13:57
From: chuck
Subject: Lighting Options?
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I just acquired a Vision m40. I put 125 miles on it this weekend, but since daylight hours are limited in Michigan, it's hard to get in any weekday miles without lighting. I found that a 1" copper pipe coupling fits the tube above the crank. I'm thinking of mounting a light to this and battery pack I have in a water bottle cage on the OSS. This leaves me with no way to carry water execpt on the rear rack. Being inexperienced on this type bike, I'd like any suggestions. One thing I've learned the hard way was that this type bike is tricky on ice/snow, and to avoid it. Yesterday's 45 mile ride was the first without laying it down, so I guess I'm progressing.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 19:02:28
From: cat0020
Subject: Re: Lighting Options?
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How about a Camelback bladder inside of the seatback pack? the rubber tube should be long enough to reach your mouth, just use a rubber clamp to secure the hose onto your clothing or someplace easy to reach. Though the freezing temperature in Michigan might just freeze the water in the long rubber tube.. I think Terracycle might have bottle cage mount that could be mounted on the steering stem or extension, Good luck with that one. http://www.terracycle.com/
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:18:49
From: limeylew@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Lighting Options?
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OSS would be Over Seat Steering. It used to be ASS, Above Seat Steering but 'Political Correctnes' has even invaded or hobbies now. :-) Lewis ***** David B wrote: > Hi Chuck, > Sorry to hear about the snow problems. I sure don't miss (involuntary, > so to speak) snow. I like your idea w/ the tubing; I'm wondering, are > you planning to make a tee fitting, or use Nobs on a plain pipe? The tee > in my VRex isn't high enough to keep my toes from hitting my Schmidt E6 > lights when mounted they far enough apart to get good beam-spread (they > throw a bright, but narrow, beam). > > What is an OSS? > > Hope we see some response soon. > > Regards, > Dave > > chuck wrote: > > I just acquired a Vision m40. I put 125 miles on it this weekend, but > > since daylight hours are limited in Michigan, it's hard to get in any > > weekday miles without lighting. I found that a 1" copper pipe coupling > > fits the tube above the crank. I'm thinking of mounting a light to this > > and battery pack I have in a water bottle cage on the OSS. This leaves > > me with no way to carry water execpt on the rear rack. Being > > inexperienced on this type bike, I'd like any suggestions. One thing > > I've learned the hard way was that this type bike is tricky on ice/snow, > > and to avoid it. Yesterday's 45 mile ride was the first without laying > > it down, so I guess I'm progressing.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:55:33
From: David B
Subject: Re: Lighting Options?
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Hi Chuck, Sorry to hear about the snow problems. I sure don't miss (involuntary, so to speak) snow. I like your idea w/ the tubing; I'm wondering, are you planning to make a tee fitting, or use Nobs on a plain pipe? The tee in my VRex isn't high enough to keep my toes from hitting my Schmidt E6 lights when mounted they far enough apart to get good beam-spread (they throw a bright, but narrow, beam). What is an OSS? Hope we see some response soon. Regards, Dave chuck wrote: > I just acquired a Vision m40. I put 125 miles on it this weekend, but > since daylight hours are limited in Michigan, it's hard to get in any > weekday miles without lighting. I found that a 1" copper pipe coupling > fits the tube above the crank. I'm thinking of mounting a light to this > and battery pack I have in a water bottle cage on the OSS. This leaves > me with no way to carry water execpt on the rear rack. Being > inexperienced on this type bike, I'd like any suggestions. One thing > I've learned the hard way was that this type bike is tricky on ice/snow, > and to avoid it. Yesterday's 45 mile ride was the first without laying > it down, so I guess I'm progressing.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:10:25
From: chuck
Subject: Re: Lighting Options?
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On 2006-12-19, David B <daveb@NorthernCalifornia.nil > wrote: > Hi Chuck, > Sorry to hear about the snow problems. I sure don't miss (involuntary, > so to speak) snow. I like your idea w/ the tubing; I'm wondering, are > you planning to make a tee fitting, or use Nobs on a plain pipe? The tee > in my VRex isn't high enough to keep my toes from hitting my Schmidt E6 > lights when mounted they far enough apart to get good beam-spread (they > throw a bright, but narrow, beam). > I tried out my setup last night. It seemed to work ok. It was a straight 1"x3/4" reducer fitting with a straight piece of 3/4" pipe. The end of the pipe is smashed flat in a vice then drilled to fit an old 1980's light setup I had that mounts with a 1/4" bolt and nut. It's only a 2.4 watt, but with the old style 3" lense and mirrored back, it seems to throw out as much light as a 6 watt halogen. I get 4.5 hours out of a Cygolite Rover battery pack. I also drilled the pipe for a Radio Shack type M power connector. This fits the original end of the Cygolite battery pack. I didn't hit my feet on the light, but the light shining on my feet was a little annoying. I may extend the thing higher. There was one good thing about the light on my feet. My Spd pedals are one sided and the light allows me to see which side of the pedal is up. > What is an OSS? Over Seat Steering. I ended up using a old water bottle cage hose clamped to this to hold water bottle/battery pack. > Hope we see some response soon. > > Regards, > Dave > > chuck wrote: >> I just acquired a Vision m40. I put 125 miles on it this weekend, but >> since daylight hours are limited in Michigan, it's hard to get in any >> weekday miles without lighting. I found that a 1" copper pipe coupling >> fits the tube above the crank. I'm thinking of mounting a light to this >> and battery pack I have in a water bottle cage on the OSS. This leaves >> me with no way to carry water execpt on the rear rack. Being >> inexperienced on this type bike, I'd like any suggestions. One thing >> I've learned the hard way was that this type bike is tricky on ice/snow, >> and to avoid it. Yesterday's 45 mile ride was the first without laying >> it down, so I guess I'm progressing.
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Date: 23 Dec 2006 01:19:48
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Lighting Options?
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"chuck" <chuck@westmichigan.null > wrote in message news:5Daih.3289$JL5.2451@trndny03... > On 2006-12-19, David B <daveb@NorthernCalifornia.nil> wrote: >> Hi Chuck, >> Sorry to hear about the snow problems. I sure don't miss (involuntary, >> so to speak) snow. I like your idea w/ the tubing; I'm wondering, are >> you planning to make a tee fitting, or use Nobs on a plain pipe? The tee >> in my VRex isn't high enough to keep my toes from hitting my Schmidt E6 >> lights when mounted they far enough apart to get good beam-spread (they >> throw a bright, but narrow, beam). >> > > I tried out my setup last night. It seemed to work ok. It was a straight > 1"x3/4" reducer fitting with a straight piece of 3/4" pipe. The end of > the pipe is smashed flat in a vice then drilled to fit an old 1980's > light setup I had that mounts with a 1/4" bolt and nut. It's only a 2.4 > watt, but with the old style 3" lense and mirrored back, it seems to > throw out as much light as a 6 watt halogen. I get 4.5 hours out of a > Cygolite Rover battery pack. I also drilled the pipe for a Radio Shack > type M power connector. This fits the original end of the Cygolite > battery pack. I didn't hit my feet on the light, but the light shining > on my feet was a little annoying. I may extend the thing higher. There > was one good thing about the light on my feet. My Spd pedals are one > sided and the light allows me to see which side of the pedal is up. > >> What is an OSS? > > Over Seat Steering. I ended up using a old water bottle cage hose > clamped to this to hold water bottle/battery pack. >> Hope we see some response soon. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> chuck wrote: >>> I just acquired a Vision m40. I put 125 miles on it this weekend, but >>> since daylight hours are limited in Michigan, it's hard to get in any >>> weekday miles without lighting. I found that a 1" copper pipe coupling >>> fits the tube above the crank. I'm thinking of mounting a light to this >>> and battery pack I have in a water bottle cage on the OSS. This leaves >>> me with no way to carry water execpt on the rear rack. Being >>> inexperienced on this type bike, I'd like any suggestions. One thing >>> I've learned the hard way was that this type bike is tricky on ice/snow, >>> and to avoid it. Yesterday's 45 mile ride was the first without laying >>> it down, so I guess I'm progressing. Chuck, this on-topic posting is extremely boring. Don't you realize that this newsgroup is now in a death mode and we only want posts that infuriate. For Christ's sakes, if you can't say anything nasty, then don't say anything at all. There is nothing more disconcerting that a civilized post when we are hell-bent on murdering one another. I urge you to summon up all your most hateful urges and to express them without reserve. That is the only way you will be appreciated on this group. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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