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Date: 27 Dec 2006 05:37:16
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Subject: MI5 Persecution: purpose in publicizing it; censorship in uk.* newsgroups
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The postings to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very defensive reaction from
Usenet readers in the UK. So much so, that they tried strenuously to
suppress what was being said, both by breaking the rules of netiquette in
their responses on the forum, and directly by action to revoke the account
from which the postings were issued.
Yet the postings were within the normal boundaries of behaviour for
uk.misc, and other less partisan spectators did not see justice in the
censorship which was effected, as the following excerpt shows;
:Karen Lofstrom (lofstrom@lava.net) wrote
: >It does seem that the frequency and the size of his posts are
: >approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite there yet. If
: >his postmaster were to act in this instance, it would raise troubling
: >censorship issues.
The inescapable conclusion of the censorship effected on the uk.*
newsgroups is that the British are intent on their wrongdoing remaining
concealed, and therefore seek to subvert and suppress freedom of speech,
not only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias and
bile against all perceived enemies within and without, but also in other
countries which have their own statutes to guarantee the basic human right
of free speech.
It is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the open
where it can be placed under scrutiny and the harassers seen for what they
are. That is the only way of making it impossible for the security services
to carry it out. There is a wider dimension, though. Xenophobia as
demonstrated by British people and institutions over the last few years
belongs to the same stable as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on a
Tube train made that racism explicit by referring to their victim as a
"soft toy, not up to British Standards". Doubtless others victimize partly
on the basis of race (isn’t it odd that they chose to torment someone who
is not ethnically English?) while expressing their abuse in terms of
another genetic attribute, namely mental illness. All xenophobia on a
genetic basis is wrong, but while racial insults are illegal, abusing the
mentally ill is neither against the law nor subject to similar condemnation
when it is exposed.
744
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Date: 27 Dec 2006 00:57:49
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com > wrote in message
news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
> news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
> <snip>
>> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for 56,
> and
>> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
>> Kerry
>>
> Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
>
> I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just felt
> to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
>
> I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent is
> the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
>
> Chas.
It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do with
comfort. What an idiot you are!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 28 Dec 2006 03:40:40
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
> news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
> > news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >>
> > <snip>
> >> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for 56,
> > and
> >> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
> >> Kerry
> >>
> > Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
> >
> > I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just
felt
> > to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
> >
> > I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent
is
> > the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
> >
> > Chas.
>
> It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do
with
> comfort. What an idiot you are!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
Uffda!
Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse.....
Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace!
Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY
MONTGOMERY not YOU.
Chas.
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 00:13:29
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com > wrote in message
news:Y0Hkh.287519$Fi1.148236@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
>> news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >
>> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
>> > news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >>
>> > <snip>
>> >> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for
>> >> 56,
>> > and
>> >> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
>> >> Kerry
>> >>
>> > Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
>> >
>> > I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just
> felt
>> > to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
>> >
>> > I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent
> is
>> > the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
>> >
>> > Chas.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do
> with
>> comfort. What an idiot you are!
>
> Uffda!
>
> Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse.....
>
> Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace!
>
> Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY
> MONTGOMERY not YOU.
Like I said before, what an idiot you are. Observe the newsgroups that a
message is going to. Anyone on any of the groups who is following the
messages can reply in whatever manner he so chooses. That is what Usenet is
all about. Try to get up to speed why don't you?
If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do it
via email and do not bother the rest of us.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 30 Dec 2006 20:51:19
From: KERRY MONTGOMERY
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:bJSdnbg3AL-LLwnYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
> news:Y0Hkh.287519$Fi1.148236@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>
>>> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>> >
>>> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> >>
>>> > <snip>
>>> >> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for
>>> >> 56,
>>> > and
>>> >> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
>>> >> Kerry
>>> >>
>>> > Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
>>> >
>>> > I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just
>> felt
>>> > to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
>>> >
>>> > I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a
>>> > bent
>> is
>>> > the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
>>> >
>>> > Chas.
>>>
>>> It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do
>> with
>>> comfort. What an idiot you are!
>>
>> Uffda!
>>
>> Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse.....
>>
>> Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace!
>>
>> Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY
>> MONTGOMERY not YOU.
>
> Like I said before, what an idiot you are. Observe the newsgroups that a
> message is going to. Anyone on any of the groups who is following the
> messages can reply in whatever manner he so chooses. That is what Usenet
> is all about. Try to get up to speed why don't you?
>
> If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do it
> via email and do not bother the rest of us.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
Ed,
Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
Thanks,
Kerry
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Date: 02 Jan 2007 13:04:38
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com > wrote in message
news:bjAlh.5344$yx6.3098@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
<snip >
> > If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do
it
> > via email and do not bother the rest of us.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >
> >
> Ed,
> Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
> Thanks,
> Kerry
>
Kerry,
Since May 2003, Edward the great has posted 8838 messages to 28 different
NGs. When does he have time to ride? How do you spell troll?
Chas. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
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Date: 05 Jan 2007 02:55:52
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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In article
<YM-dnSaZ_p_CVQfYnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com >,
"* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote:
> "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
> news:bjAlh.5344$yx6.3098@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> <snip>
> > > If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do
> it
> > > via email and do not bother the rest of us.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > aka
> > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> > >
> > >
> > Ed,
> > Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
> > Thanks,
> > Kerry
> >
>
> Kerry,
>
> Since May 2003, Edward the great has posted 8838 messages to 28 different
> NGs. When does he have time to ride? How do you spell troll?
>
> Chas. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
Is this the reference you are making?
<http://www.thesisters.org/ >
--
Michael Press
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Date: 05 Jan 2007 12:53:35
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"Michael Press" <rubrum@pacbell.net > wrote in message
news:rubrum-E95466.18555104012007@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> In article
> <YM-dnSaZ_p_CVQfYnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com> wrote:
>
> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
> > news:bjAlh.5344$yx6.3098@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > <snip>
> > > > If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery,
then do
> > it
> > > > via email and do not bother the rest of us.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows -
Minnesota
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Ed,
> > > Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kerry
> > >
> >
> > Kerry,
> >
> > Since May 2003, Edward the great has posted 8838 messages to 28
different
> > NGs. When does he have time to ride? How do you spell troll?
> >
> > Chas. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
>
> Is this the reference you are making?
> <http://www.thesisters.org/>
>
> --
> Michael Press
YES! Ha, Ha, Ha....... FDLMAO
I live in the Bay Area and the "gals" are at least entertaining.
Chas. In memory of Nun of the Above
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Date: 03 Jan 2007 01:47:53
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"* * Chas" <verktygjunk@aol.spamski.com > wrote in message
news:YM-dnSaZ_p_CVQfYnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
> news:bjAlh.5344$yx6.3098@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
> <snip>
Edward Dolan wrote:
>> > If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do
> it
>> > via email and do not bother the rest of us.
>> >
>> Ed,
>> Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
>> Thanks,
>> Kerry
>>
>
> Kerry,
>
> Since May 2003, Edward the great has posted 8838 messages to 28 different
> NGs. When does he have time to ride? How do you spell troll?
>
> Chas. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
Charles, those Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence are unrelated to my Order of
Perpetual Sorrows and are in fact my mortal enemies. Women are not capable
of Saintliness since they come into the world essentially good and so there
is never any Great Evil for them to overcome. Nay, only us men can be Great
Saints and have Perpetual Sorrows.
For women to pretend to be Holy and Saintly is an abomination. They are just
merely good and that is all they can ever be. I am so far above the Sisters
that I refuse to even acknowledge their existence. Yea, I am a Great Saint
and the rest of you should never forget this most essential fact about ME.
I think when I get to 10,000 messages I will quit - if I don't die first of
a stroke or heart attack. Apparently, cancer is a possibility too according
to my many doctors.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 30 Dec 2006 15:20:23
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com > wrote in message
news:bjAlh.5344$yx6.3098@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:bJSdnbg3AL-LLwnYnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
>> news:Y0Hkh.287519$Fi1.148236@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>>
>>>> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>> >
>>>> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> >>
>>>> > <snip>
>>>> >> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for
>>>> >> 56,
>>>> > and
>>>> >> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
>>>> >> Kerry
>>>> >>
>>>> > Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
>>>> >
>>>> > I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just
>>> felt
>>>> > to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
>>>> >
>>>> > I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a
>>>> > bent
>>> is
>>>> > the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
>>>> >
>>>> > Chas.
>>>>
>>>> It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do
>>> with
>>>> comfort. What an idiot you are!
>>>
>>> Uffda!
>>>
>>> Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse.....
>>>
>>> Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace!
>>>
>>> Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY
>>> MONTGOMERY not YOU.
>>
>> Like I said before, what an idiot you are. Observe the newsgroups that a
>> message is going to. Anyone on any of the groups who is following the
>> messages can reply in whatever manner he so chooses. That is what Usenet
>> is all about. Try to get up to speed why don't you?
>>
>> If you only want to talk to this other jerk, Kerry Montgomery, then do it
>> via email and do not bother the rest of us.
>>
> Ed,
> Which part of my posting caused you to call me a jerk?
> Thanks,
> Kerry
Kerry, you are quite right. It was a spill-over from having to deal with a
real jerk who goes by the name of Chas. You are an innocent bystander in
this folderol. I need to get more focused on who my enemies are as I am
coming to think more and more that ANYONE who posts to these cycling
newsgroups is my enemy. I may in fact becoming paranoid. Thanks for the
comeuppance.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 28 Dec 2006 04:16:40
From: KERRY MONTGOMERY
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com > wrote in message
news:Y0Hkh.287519$Fi1.148236@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
>> news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >
>> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
>> > news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> >>
>> > <snip>
>> >> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for
>> >> 56,
>> > and
>> >> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
>> >> Kerry
>> >>
>> > Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
>> >
>> > I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just
> felt
>> > to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
>> >
>> > I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a bent
> is
>> > the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
>> >
>> > Chas.
>>
>> It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do
> with
>> comfort. What an idiot you are!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>
> Uffda!
>
> Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse.....
>
> Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace!
>
> Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY
> MONTGOMERY not YOU.
>
> Chas.
I do suffer from nasal mucus (bad sinuses), but my legs are dirty only
because I never chose to shave 'em, even during the racing years. The only
recumbent I've spent much time on is the one on this web page (it's the one
with large red spoke protectors). I found it a trifle heavy and slow
compared to the uprights I usually ride, but exceptionally easy to balance
;-)
Kerry
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Date: 28 Dec 2006 04:50:58
From: * * Chas
Subject: Re: My 'Bent Is Starting to Annoy Me
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"KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com > wrote in message
news:IyHkh.4456$yx6.1161@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
> news:Y0Hkh.287519$Fi1.148236@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> > news:6dSdnZrjUMDqhA_YnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
> >>
> >> "* * Chas" <verktyg@aol.spamski.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Wmokh.585016$QZ1.48707@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >
> >> > "KERRY MONTGOMERY" <kamontgo@teleport.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:t7ikh.3987$w91.1156@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> >>
> >> > <snip>
> >> >> I've been around bikes for the past 40 years, around this world for
> >> >> 56,
> >> > and
> >> >> in fact can live with upright bicycles.
> >> >> Kerry
> >> >>
> >> > Sniveling, dirty legged kid, 55 and 63 respectively.
> >> >
> >> > I tried riding a bent for a few minutes about 30 years ago and I just
> > felt
> >> > to [too] uncomfortable trying to keep it balanced.
> >> >
> >> > I can appreciate that for some people with physical limitations, a
bent
> > is
> >> > the only way that they can enjoy cycling. That's great for them.
> >> >
> >> > Chas.
> >>
> >> It has nothing to do with physical limitations. It has everything to do
> > with
> >> comfort. What an idiot you are!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> aka
> >> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >>
> >
> > Uffda!
> >
> > Chill out dude and have some more lutefisk and lefse.....
> >
> > Go ride your 2 wheeled piece of lawn furniture in peace!
> >
> > Also, learn to follow a thread. My comment was a response to KERRY
> > MONTGOMERY not YOU.
> >
> > Chas.
>
> I do suffer from nasal mucus (bad sinuses), but my legs are dirty only
> because I never chose to shave 'em, even during the racing years. The
only
> recumbent I've spent much time on is the one on this web page (it's the
one
> with large red spoke protectors). I found it a trifle heavy and slow
> compared to the uprights I usually ride, but exceptionally easy to balance
> ;-)
> Kerry
>
The famous Irish racer, Patio Furniture..... ;-)
Chas.
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