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Date: 20 Mar 2005 15:20:50
From:
Subject: MnHPVA Kids Recumbent Web Page Udated
After over 2 years of neglect I found time to update the MnHPVA Kids
Recumbent Web Page. I've added a parking lot's worth of little
machines.

If you have any to add, especially homebuilts, please send them to
k@bikesmithdesign.com





 
Date: 22 Mar 2005 05:17:04
From:
Subject: Re: MnHPVA Kids Recumbent Web Page Updated

Bill Patterson wrote:
> k,
>
> Check out my grandsons on the Varna for kids. Scroll down the page.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~wm.patterson/id2.html

Bill,
Is that a special, smaller version of the Varna Velocipede, or just the
standard one with the seat moved forward?

It appears from this image,
http://www.varnahandcycles.com/hi-res/varnavelocipede.jpg
that the current version has much less trail induced wheelflop.

Looks like the same fork as on the trike
http://www.varnahandcycles.com/hi-res/varnasenior.jpg The trike has so
much rake because nearly everyone has figured out that delta's do
poorly with more than a tiny bit of trail. I imagine Georgiev stuck a
trike fork on a Velocipede, as an experiment, and discovered how much
better it handled.

As they say, the man's a genius ;-)

> Tiller is probing to be a very good thing.
>
> Bill Patterson

Are you saying you have added tiller to the steering on the Varna?



  
Date: 23 Mar 2005 18:04:04
From: Bill Patterson
Subject: Re: MnHPVA Kids Recumbent Web Page Updated
k@bikesmithdesign.com wrote:
> Bill Patterson wrote:
>
>>k,
>>
>>Check out my grandsons on the Varna for kids. Scroll down the page.
>>
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~wm.patterson/id2.html
>
>
> Bill,
> Is that a special, smaller version of the Varna Velocipede, or just the
> standard one with the seat moved forward?

I don't know that. This is a bike that George made for Carole Leone.
>
> It appears from this image,
> http://www.varnahandcycles.com/hi-res/varnavelocipede.jpg
> that the current version has much less trail induced wheelflop.

I'm not sure what your definition is of wheel flop. In most cases, a
little wheel flop is a great aid to balance. Too much is very bad. We
all have different idea of what is too much.

We should be able to ride a bike with our eyes closed and sense frame
lean angle through the handlebars.
>
> Looks like the same fork as on the trike
> http://www.varnahandcycles.com/hi-res/varnasenior.jpg The trike has so
> much rake because nearly everyone has figured out that delta's do
> poorly with more than a tiny bit of trail. I imagine Georgiev stuck a
> trike fork on a Velocipede, as an experiment, and discovered how much
> better it handled.
>
> As they say, the man's a genius ;-)
>
>
>>Tiller is probing to be a very good thing.
>>

proving
>>Bill Patterson
>
>
> Are you saying you have added tiller to the steering on the Varna?
>
No, I have used some of your ideas to great effect.

--
Don’t be a 0 to 60 sheep, be a 60 mpg wolf. Yes Miles Per Gallon.

See some Bikes At:

http://home.earthlink.net/~wm.patterson/index.html


Class and Helicopter

http://www.calpoly.edu/~wpatters/

The Pony Express
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Base/6850/PonySong.html


Reply to wm.patterson@earthlink.net
wpatters@calpoly.edu
william.patterson@1962.usna.com


 
Date: 20 Mar 2005 23:56:57
From: Bill Patterson
Subject: Re: MnHPVA Kids Recumbent Web Page Udated
k,

Check out my grandsons on the Varna for kids. Scroll down the page.

http://home.earthlink.net/~wm.patterson/id2.html

Tiller is probing to be a very good thing.

Bill Patterson

k@bikesmithdesign.com wrote:
> After over 2 years of neglect I found time to update the MnHPVA Kids
> Recumbent Web Page. I've added a parking lot's worth of little
> machines.
>
> If you have any to add, especially homebuilts, please send them to
> k@bikesmithdesign.com
>


--
Don’t be a 0 to 60 sheep, be a 60 mpg wolf. Yes Miles Per Gallon.

See some Bikes At:

http://home.earthlink.net/~wm.patterson/index.html


Class and Helicopter

http://www.calpoly.edu/~wpatters/

The Pony Express
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Base/6850/PonySong.html


Reply to wm.patterson@earthlink.net
wpatters@calpoly.edu
william.patterson@1962.usna.com


 
Date: 20 Mar 2005 17:24:25
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: MnHPVA Kids Recumbent Web Page Udated
k@bikesmithdesign.com wrote:
> After over 2 years of neglect I found time to update the MnHPVA Kids
> Recumbent Web Page. I've added a parking lot's worth of little
> machines.
>
> If you have any to add, especially homebuilts, please send them to
> k@bikesmithdesign.com

URL at <http://mnhpva.org/Mini_Bents/Mini.html >.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth (Downstate Illinois, North of Forgottonia)