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Date: 30 Jun 2005 20:45:45
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Subject: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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Since no one else has posted anything about this yet, I think I will.
Upright teams bested both recumbent teams in this year's RAAM and
undoubtedly that will serve to fuel future arguments regarding which is
the faster platform ... the upright or the recumbent. Rregardless,
congratulations are in order for a very respectable showing by Team
Bacchetta who convincingly defeated the so-called "fastest stock bike
in the known universe". Now, Ed Gin, Johnny NoCom and the rest of the
unruly MONKEYS rather than having something to crow about will have to
eat a much deserved portion of crow instead. I'd suggest that a big
piece of humble pie be served up for desert. For the time being at
least, no one should not have to endure any more VeloKraft ... NoCom
nonsense. The rabid NoCom zealots had their opportunity to put up or
shut up and now it is time for the latter. The RAAM statistics
(http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/Default.aspx?tabid=151) speak for
themselves, so there is nothing more to add, but NoCom-ment ;^)
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Date: 03 Jul 2005 00:47:19
From: nget
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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jimmymac_4@yahoo.com Wrote:
> Since no one else has posted anything about this yet, I think I will.
> Upright teams bested both recumbent teams in this year's RAAM and
> undoubtedly that will serve to fuel future arguments regarding whic
> is
> the faster platform ... the upright or the recumbent. Rregardless,
> congratulations are in order for a very respectable showing by Team
> Bacchetta who convincingly defeated the so-called "fastest stock bike
> in the known universe". Now, Ed Gin, Johnny NoCom and the rest of the
> unruly MONKEYS rather than having something to crow about will have to
> eat a much deserved portion of crow instead. I'd suggest that a big
> piece of humble pie be served up for desert. For the time being at
> least, no one should not have to endure any more VeloKraft ... NoCom
> nonsense. The rabid NoCom zealots had their opportunity to put up or
> shut up and now it is time for the latter. The RAAM statistics
> (http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/Default.aspx?tabid=151) speak for
> themselves, so there is nothing more to add, but NoCom-ment ;^)
This all brings to mind something I read awhile back."If A tree fall
in the forest killing a mute,does anyone care"?Author unknown
--
nget
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Date: 01 Jul 2005 21:49:47
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1120189545.643225.312320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Since no one else has posted anything about this yet, I think I will.
> Upright teams bested both recumbent teams in this year's RAAM and
> undoubtedly that will serve to fuel future arguments regarding which is
> the faster platform ... the upright or the recumbent. Rregardless,
> congratulations are in order for a very respectable showing by Team
> Bacchetta who convincingly defeated the so-called "fastest stock bike
> in the known universe". Now, Ed Gin, Johnny NoCom and the rest of the
> unruly MONKEYS rather than having something to crow about will have to
> eat a much deserved portion of crow instead. I'd suggest that a big
> piece of humble pie be served up for desert. For the time being at
> least, no one should not have to endure any more VeloKraft ... NoCom
> nonsense. The rabid NoCom zealots had their opportunity to put up or
> shut up and now it is time for the latter. The RAAM statistics
> (http://www.raceacrossamerica.org/Default.aspx?tabid=151) speak for
> themselves, so there is nothing more to add, but NoCom-ment ;^)
Naaa, Ed/Johnny will just say the reason recumbents lost was because no
NoComm's were running
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Date: 01 Jul 2005 06:18:18
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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Not to put too fine a point on it but recumbents DO hold all of the
outright speed records. Pretending that this year's RAAM results
somehow clear the issue up isn't very helpful.
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Date: 02 Jul 2005 07:23:44
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> Not to put too fine a point on it but recumbents DO hold all of the
> outright speed records. Pretending that this year's RAAM results
> somehow clear the issue up isn't very helpful.
The post was more about team Velokraft getting stomped by team Bacchetta
than it was about uprights vs bents
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Date: 01 Jul 2005 12:40:27
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> Not to put too fine a point on it but recumbents DO hold all of the
> outright speed records. Pretending that this year's RAAM results
> somehow clear the issue up isn't very helpful.
See ISBN: 0399146113
Noise from key monk land is clearly _not about the bike_. And
neither largely is RAAM much about the bike. Analysis of RAAM
team/individual performance characteristics might shed some *light*
about bikes and riders, but perhaps we can do without the *heat*.
Jon Meinecke
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Date: 01 Jul 2005 13:54:51
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:1120239543.aa8dfa4a572418fcc044590e2c94c7a9@teranews...
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Not to put too fine a point on it but recumbents DO hold all of the
>> outright speed records. Pretending that this year's RAAM results
>> somehow clear the issue up isn't very helpful.
>
> See ISBN: 0399146113
>
> Noise from key monk land is clearly _not about the bike_. And
> neither largely is RAAM much about the bike. Analysis of RAAM
> team/individual performance characteristics might shed some *light*
> about bikes and riders, but perhaps we can do without the *heat*.
RAAM is all about human endurance and little else. There was an older fellow
from this area (NW Iowa) who did the ride last year and it damn near killed
him. But he made it to the finish line and feels justified in the sight of
man and God. I think anyone who does RAAM is just plain crazy and if they
suffer loss of life or limb, then it serves them right. Nature does not
suffer fools gladly.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
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Date: 01 Jul 2005 18:23:20
From: psycholist
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:1120239543.aa8dfa4a572418fcc044590e2c94c7a9@teranews...
>> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Not to put too fine a point on it but recumbents DO hold all of the
>>> outright speed records. Pretending that this year's RAAM results
>>> somehow clear the issue up isn't very helpful.
>>
>> See ISBN: 0399146113
>>
>> Noise from key monk land is clearly _not about the bike_. And
>> neither largely is RAAM much about the bike. Analysis of RAAM
>> team/individual performance characteristics might shed some *light*
>> about bikes and riders, but perhaps we can do without the *heat*.
>
> RAAM is all about human endurance and little else. There was an older
> fellow from this area (NW Iowa) who did the ride last year and it damn
> near killed him. But he made it to the finish line and feels justified in
> the sight of man and God. I think anyone who does RAAM is just plain crazy
> and if they suffer loss of life or limb, then it serves them right. Nature
> does not suffer fools gladly.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
I won't vouch for your greatness, Ed, but I'll endorse your POV on RAAM.
They're a bunch of self-obsessed idiots on a suicide mission as far as I'm
concerned. Unfortunately, one succeeded this year.
--
Bob C.
"Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts."
T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia)
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Date: 02 Jul 2005 00:59:54
From: Fred
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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"psycholist" <technico@wctel.net > wrote in message
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> I won't vouch for your greatness, Ed, but I'll endorse your POV on RAAM.
> They're a bunch of self-obsessed idiots on a suicide mission as far as I'm
> concerned. Unfortunately, one succeeded this year.
>
> --
> Bob C.
>
If you could see yourself in a mirror......
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Date: 02 Jul 2005 02:36:09
From: Tim Mullin
Subject: Re: Monkeys rendered MUTE!
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"Fred" <capitalism@sux.com > wrote in news:eGlxe.1728$j04.917
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
> If you could see yourself in a mirror......
Bob can't see himself in a mirror? What the fuck is he, a vampire or
something? Damn, shaving must be a bitch....
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