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Date: 07 Jan 2005 15:32:42
From: Robert Haston
Subject: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what others
thought of my three options:
Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
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Robert Haston
Satellite Beach, FL
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Date: 10 Jan 2005 16:58:00
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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I have Primo Comets on my Vision, okay tires but they were bald after about
1000 miles
I'd recommend Vredestein
"Robert Haston" <rehaston@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:uYxDd.195$KJ2.150@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what
others
> thought of my three options:
>
> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
>
> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
>
> --
> Robert Haston
> Satellite Beach, FL
>
>
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Date: 10 Jan 2005 18:34:35
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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k Leuck wrote:
> I have Primo Comets on my Vision, okay tires but they were bald after about
> 1000 miles
>
> I'd recommend Vredestein[.]
If Vredestein has made ISO 451-mm road tires, the evidence is hard to
find on the Internet. They have also apparently stopped importing tires
into the US in any sizes other than ISO 622-mm, ISO 571-mm and ISO
559-mm [1]. The manufacturers website [2] is not loading correctly, so I
could not check to see if the ISO 406-mm tires are still listed there.
If the ISO 406-mm tires are still being manufactured, they might be
available by special order from a dealer who sells bikes that use/have
used them as standard equipment (e.g. Challenge, Optima).
[1] <http://www.vredesteinusa.com/roadtyres/index.html >.
[2] <http://www.vredestein.com/autobanden/intro.asp >. I get a message
that says " HTTP/1.1 Application Restarting" on an otherwise blank screen.
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Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island
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Date: 07 Jan 2005 16:26:06
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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Robert Haston wrote:
> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what others
> thought of my three options:
>
> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
>
> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
To quote Zach Kaplan on the Primo Champ, "Note: this is an ultra narrow
small diameter tyre [1] and should only be used on the front of a LWB
with a light rider or on smooth tracks", and k Stonich, "This tire is
designed for the front of racing wheelchairs, where it probably carries
less than 20 lbs. Use on a bike at your own risk."
[1] Referring specifically to the 19-349 size, but should also apply to
the larger sizes that use the same casing.
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Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island
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Date: 07 Jan 2005 13:54:35
From: S. Delaire \Rotatorrecumbent\
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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From someone who has won a race or two
The IRC tests faster on the roll down hill
Speedy
Robert Haston wrote:
> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what others
> thought of my three options:
>
> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
>
> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
>
> --
> Robert Haston
> Satellite Beach, FL
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Date: 08 Jan 2005 00:05:40
From: Robert Haston
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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Interesting, how much did the IRC win by?
The Comet won on a dyno test, but that was like 10 years ago. The IRC looks
a little better. The Comet I once used was real crap, and split open. But
it looked like it had hung in a store room for 5 years before I bought it.
"S. Delaire "Rotatorrecumbent"" <rotator@neteze.com > wrote in message
news:41DF051B.604D30BA@neteze.com...
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> From someone who has won a race or two
> The IRC tests faster on the roll down hill
> Speedy
>
> Robert Haston wrote:
>
>> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what
>> others
>> thought of my three options:
>>
>> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
>> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
>>
>> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
>>
>> --
>> Robert Haston
>> Satellite Beach, FL
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Date: 10 Jan 2005 11:01:28
From: S. Delaire \Rotatorrecumbent\
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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Several percentage points
Secret is in the casing construction
Nylon is best for lowest resistance
Soft, supple casing is key.
Fresh, new tires is best idea.
Inspect the casing for flaws.
First 5 or 6 Stelvio's I've tried failed so quickly (sidewalls on all) that I'm
now a bit put off from trying any more.
Speedy
Robert Haston wrote:
> Interesting, how much did the IRC win by?
>
> The Comet won on a dyno test, but that was like 10 years ago. The IRC looks
> a little better. The Comet I once used was real crap, and split open. But
> it looked like it had hung in a store room for 5 years before I bought it.
>
> "S. Delaire "Rotatorrecumbent"" <rotator@neteze.com> wrote in message
> news:41DF051B.604D30BA@neteze.com...
> >
> > From someone who has won a race or two
> > The IRC tests faster on the roll down hill
> > Speedy
> >
> > Robert Haston wrote:
> >
> >> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what
> >> others
> >> thought of my three options:
> >>
> >> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
> >> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
> >>
> >> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
> >>
> >> --
> >> Robert Haston
> >> Satellite Beach, FL
> >
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Date: 07 Jan 2005 16:18:38
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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S. Delaire "Rotatorrecumbent" wrote:
> From someone who has won a race or two
> The IRC tests faster on the roll down hill
Speedy,
Have you compared the rolling resistance of the IRC versus the Schwalbe
Stelvio (a relatively new tire in the ISO 451-mm size)?
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Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island
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Date: 07 Jan 2005 13:21:02
From:
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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"
Of course, all of these tires are only manufactured underground by
gnomes."
LOL!!!
Sure seems that way! I got tired of ordering from Canada or even closer
but not close enough to go to! A rarity here; but my vote is for
Primos.
Chris Jordan
Santa Cruz, CA.
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Date: 07 Jan 2005 15:34:26
From: Doug Huffman
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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We ride 406 comets on our tandem 'bent. They're the slickest and highest
pressure tires I can get.
"Robert Haston" <rehaston@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:uYxDd.195$KJ2.150@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what
> others thought of my three options:
>
> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
>
> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
>
> --
> Robert Haston
> Satellite Beach, FL
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Date: 07 Jan 2005 10:42:21
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Primo Comet, Champ, or IRC Roadlite?
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Robert Haston wrote:
> Its time for my bi-annual 451 tire stock up, and I was wondering what others
> thought of my three options:
>
> Primo Comet 1-1/8" 110 psi
> Primo Champ 1" 110 psi
>
> IRC Roadlite 1-1/8" 100 psi
In addition to the 26-451 listed above, the Primo Comet also comes in a
37-451 size. Primo also makes the V-Track in 28-451.
Schwalbe makes the Stelvio in 28-451.
For hybrid tread tires there are the 28-451 Odyssey Red Racer and 37-451
Ritchey Speedmax.
Of course, all of these tires are only manufactured underground by gnomes.
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Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island
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