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Date: 01 Dec 2005 10:03:04
From: Mojo
Subject: Protest rallies a huge success
Our ever lasting thanks to the religious community. At least here in
WI, we can expect to see less of Evil Satan and his walkbikes.

Mojo - thanks for your support HRS fans!

http://highracers.blogspot.com/2005/11/fogs-in-milwaukee-protests-florida.html





 
Date: 12 Dec 2005 17:15:58
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

brianwh@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Tom Sherman wrote:
> "If this were the case, I should be getting a free Velokraft NoCom as
> payment for my services. "
>
> You should be getting a Ti ReBike for your services.

Now that is funny! :)

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 12 Dec 2005 16:51:33
From: brianwh@sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
Tom Sherman wrote:
"If this were the case, I should be getting a free Velokraft NoCom as
payment for my services. "

You should be getting a Ti ReBike for your services.



 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 20:53:25
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...However, you may have as many cats as
> you want as they will never give you anything as long as you don't let them
> scratch and bite you. This is easier said than done as not all cats like
> their owners....

Cats do not have owners. I suggest reading "The Silent Miaow" by Cica
(and translated by Paul Gallico) for informational purposes on what
cats really think about people.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 06 Dec 2005 17:33:22
From: DD
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>>...However, you may have as many cats as
>>you want as they will never give you anything as long as you don't let them
>>scratch and bite you. This is easier said than done as not all cats like
>>their owners....
>
>
> Cats do not have owners. I suggest reading "The Silent Miaow" by Cica
> (and translated by Paul Gallico) for informational purposes on what
> cats really think about people.
>

Taxidermy, there are plenty of good books on this method of pet care and
if cats could read book covers that'd be all you needed. Of course cats
despite reading books almost as much as they despise owners who think
they actually own their cats. Then I suggest consider how good a cat fur
seat cover can be. There are always solutions. :)


  
Date: 06 Dec 2005 00:17:02
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133844805.418408.271330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> ...However, you may have as many cats as
>> you want as they will never give you anything as long as you don't let
>> them
>> scratch and bite you. This is easier said than done as not all cats like
>> their owners....
>
> Cats do not have owners. I suggest reading "The Silent Miaow" by Cica
> (and translated by Paul Gallico) for informational purposes on what
> cats really think about people.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

I think Tom is right about this without me having to go read anything. I
find that I am waiting on my cats hand and foot and they do not even
appreciate what I am doing for them. Furthermore, they are costing me a
fortune in cat food.

I believe one should only have two cats at the most. Anymore than that and
you are asking for nothing but trouble. Anyone on this group want a cat?

Ed Dolan - Minnesota




 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 19:28:16
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Mojo wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Word is, you were sorely missed at a famous Midwestern Recumbent Party
> this weekend. Event organizers apparantly lost your emai address.
>
> Trust me, your position regarding recent discussions on this forum
> were one of the topics amongst the partygoer's.
>
> Should you have come, perhaps a NoCom would have been farfetched but
> I'll guarantee you plenty of good company, food, and spirits.

Unfortunately, I would have been spreading an influenza virus (no, not
H5N1!) had I attended said event, which would have been a disservice to
the Chicagoland recumbent riding community. :(

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 05 Dec 2005 22:35:31
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133839696.683247.60110@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mojo wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> Word is, you were sorely missed at a famous Midwestern Recumbent Party
>> this weekend. Event organizers apparantly lost your emai address.
>>
>> Trust me, your position regarding recent discussions on this forum
>> were one of the topics amongst the partygoer's.
>>
>> Should you have come, perhaps a NoCom would have been farfetched but
>> I'll guarantee you plenty of good company, food, and spirits.
>
> Unfortunately, I would have been spreading an influenza virus (no, not
> H5N1!) had I attended said event, which would have been a disservice to
> the Chicagoland recumbent riding community. :(
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

I have not had a cold since I was in the Navy some 50 years ago. That is
because I am a hermit and never have any contact with people. I highly
recommend to all of you that you go and do as I have done. Sever all your
relations with your fellow creatures. However, you may have as many cats as
you want as they will never give you anything as long as you don't let them
scratch and bite you. This is easier said than done as not all cats like
their owners.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 19:23:05
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> My only observation is what is Mr. Sherman doing up at 4:08 AM?...

Drinking cough syrup.

> I of course
> stay up all night and only sleep every other day, but I know Mr. Sherman is
> a working man and he should get his sleep or he will perform civil
> engineering errors which may cause the loss of life and other dire
> catastrophes. Really now, Mr. Sherman should not post to ARBR before 6.00 AM
> at the earliest. And I want him in bed getting his beauty sleep by 11:00 PM.
> We do not need civil engineers running around drugged by the lack of sleep.

Judging by the typical salaries, what civil engineers do is not valued
very highly by society (though the former residents of New Orleans
might have cause to change their minds). Lawyers, political lobbyists,
investment bankers and those in public relations obviously contribute
much more to the well being of society, based on the compensation they
receive.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 17:02:13
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

nget who? wrote:
> 'Sunset Lowracer [TM Wrote:
> > Fanatic']nget who? wrote:
> > > ...
> > > And the question is,what recumbent team won its category for the
> > 2005
> > > Race across America?...
> >
> > Apples and oranges. Put calibrated power measuring cranks/BB on a
> > properly setup NoCom and any highracer and see which is faster under
> > identical power outputs and conditions. Enough said.
> >
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
> Is this true, a no com with power assist? You'll never get away with
> that at any race I know of.

Read the post again and see <http://www.srm.de/old/powermeter.html > for
an example of a power measuring crank.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 06 Dec 2005 15:26:21
From: nget
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

'Sunset Lowracer [TM Wrote:
> Fanatic']nget who? wrote:
> > 'Sunset Lowracer [TM Wrote:
> > > Fanatic']nget who? wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > And the question is,what recumbent team won its category for the
> > > 2005
> > > > Race across America?...
> > >
> > > Apples and oranges. Put calibrated power measuring cranks/BB on a
> > > properly setup NoCom and any highracer and see which is faste
> under
> > > identical power outputs and conditions. Enough said.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
> > Is this true, a no com with power assist? You'll never get away with
> > that at any race I know of.
>
> Read the post again and see <http://www.srm.de/old/powermeter.html
> for
> an example of a power measuring crank.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

A no com with power assist, it was a joke, kind of like your apple an
oranges response.The Race across America was a real road, real lif
race,don't need no powermeters to know who wins

--
nget



 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 11:24:51
From:
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Mojo wrote:
> ..... Our commitment is to first and foremost, be the official source for
> unbiased, truthful information.
>

So if I look past your "humor", and if I look past the parodies (photos
and stories), I will find unbiased, truthful information? Suppose we
start with your name. Wait, perhaps that's a poor example of all of
the "truthful" information found on HRS.

Jim Reilly
Reading, PA



 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 04:52:52
From: Mojo
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
Tom,

Word is, you were sorely missed at a famous Midwestern Recumbent Party
this weekend. Event organizers apparantly lost your emai address.

Trust me, your position regarding recent discussions on this forum
were one of the topics amongst the partygoer's.

Should you have come, perhaps a NoCom would have been farfetched but
I'll guarantee you plenty of good company, food, and spirits.

BTW, would you please send me your current email address at our
customer service division? highracersucks@yahoo.com

Mojo - CEO



 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 04:47:42
From: Mojo
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
jrei,

On the contrary, HRS strives to provide the most up to date, accurate
investigative research for all types of HIGHBIKES, Bitch Shidda,
Volae, Challenge, Flevo, etc.

Our commitment is to first and foremost, be the official source for
unbiased, truthful information.

You and the readership will ultimately decide what is pertinent for
your decisions.

Mojo - CEO



 
Date: 05 Dec 2005 02:08:28
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

nget who? wrote:
> ...
> And the question is,what recumbent team won its category for the 2005
> Race across America?...

Apples and oranges. Put calibrated power measuring cranks/BB on a
properly setup NoCom and any highracer and see which is faster under
identical power outputs and conditions. Enough said.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 05 Dec 2005 16:08:13
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133777307.978574.174320@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> nget who? wrote:
>> ...
>> And the question is,what recumbent team won its category for the 2005
>> Race across America?...
>
> Apples and oranges. Put calibrated power measuring cranks/BB on a
> properly setup NoCom and any highracer and see which is faster under
> identical power outputs and conditions. Enough said.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

My only observation is what is Mr. Sherman doing up at 4:08 AM? I of course
stay up all night and only sleep every other day, but I know Mr. Sherman is
a working man and he should get his sleep or he will perform civil
engineering errors which may cause the loss of life and other dire
catastrophes. Really now, Mr. Sherman should not post to ARBR before 6.00 AM
at the earliest. And I want him in bed getting his beauty sleep by 11:00 PM.
We do not need civil engineers running around drugged by the lack of sleep.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota



>




  
Date: 06 Dec 2005 03:15:26
From: nget
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

'Sunset Lowracer [TM Wrote:
> Fanatic']nget who? wrote:
> > ...
> > And the question is,what recumbent team won its category for th
> 2005
> > Race across America?...
>
> Apples and oranges. Put calibrated power measuring cranks/BB on a
> properly setup NoCom and any highracer and see which is faster under
> identical power outputs and conditions. Enough said.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
Is this true, a no com with power assist? You'll never get away wit
that at any race I know of

--
nget



  
Date: 05 Dec 2005 10:41:29
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:

> Apples and oranges. Put calibrated power measuring cranks/BB on a
> properly setup NoCom and any highracer and see which is faster under
> identical power outputs and conditions. Enough said.

You can go for a suitably bumpy track where 26" or 700c wheels will have
significantly superior rolling characteristics to anything smaller. Of
course, some Real Roads fall into that category, so it's possible a Real
Race on Real Roads will not favour bespoke racing machinery like the NoCom.

My Streetmachine has left behind a carbon upright racer that is
/usually/ faster and has a fitter, better rider than me when we came
upon a really poor road and my suspension just soaked up all the warts
that the wedgie had to go up and down in each one's entirety. The NoCom
is named for no compromises to make it "practical" for "normal" riding,
but some of those compromises are genuinely useful on real roads,
especially when they're poor.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/



 
Date: 04 Dec 2005 20:55:04
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> In other words, a good bike for ideal riding conditions. However, in the
> real world there hardly ever exist ideal riding conditions, most especially
> not in urban areas. No thank you! I want a bike I can ride easily and
> handily under any and all conditions. This includes really bad roads, sharp
> turns, totally congested conditions where going slow is mandatory, ... the
> list just goes on and on.

Reportedly, there is a practical lowracer out there if one is willing
to sacrifice some of the performance of the Velokraft NoCom [1]. This
practical lowracer is called the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer. However,
I understand that some Sunset owners post about their bikes with
excessive frequency on Internet forums.

[1] Fastest Unfaired Bike in the Known Universe.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 04 Dec 2005 20:36:07
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

k Leuck wrote:
>
> Standard [Optima Baron], I find the tiller not noticeable...

Try riding a bike with linkage steering or minimal tiller for
comparison purposes.

> however I also don't think it handles well at lower speeds[.]

Handling is relative - I have ridden some recumbents that I would not
want to ride in close proximity to other riders due to control issues
[1].

[1] The Optima Baron is not one of these [2].
[2] Gratuitous footnote for Ed Dolan.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 09 Dec 2005 23:11:40
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133757367.466320.252620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> k Leuck wrote:
> >
> > Standard [Optima Baron], I find the tiller not noticeable...
>
> Try riding a bike with linkage steering or minimal tiller for
> comparison purposes.

I have and again I do not find the tiller noticeable





  
Date: 04 Dec 2005 23:04:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133757367.466320.252620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> k Leuck wrote:
>>
>> Standard [Optima Baron], I find the tiller not noticeable...
>
> Try riding a bike with linkage steering or minimal tiller for
> comparison purposes.
>
>> however I also don't think it handles well at lower speeds[.]
>
> Handling is relative - I have ridden some recumbents that I would not
> want to ride in close proximity to other riders due to control issues
> [1].
>
> [1] The Optima Baron is not one of these [2].
> [2] Gratuitous footnote for Ed Dolan.
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Yes! Yes! I knew all along that Mr. Sherman was posting his abominable
footnotes just to irritate me.

Scholars have persecuted me like forever with their abominable footnotes. As
much as I would like to ignore them, I find that I can't. I will follow a
footnote all the way to Hell and back. Many times in the past I have
actually spent much more time on footnotes than I ever did on the body of
the text. The general reader will not normally bother with footnotes, but my
training as a librarian has forever prevented me from enjoying that luxury.

I plead with Mr. Sherman to go easy on the footnotes. If he causes my early
demise from such shenanigans, I will have my estate bring suit against him
for harassment.

One other thing that bothers me out of all proportion to its true
significance is k Leuck's not putting periods at the end of his
sentences. I also know that he does this just to irritate me. I have
instructed him on this matter repeatedly, but he refuses to listen to my
sage counsel.

It is clear that my vast learning and wisdom are not appreciated here on
ARBR. I will have to dumb myself down in order to communicate better with
the denizens of ARBR.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






 
Date: 04 Dec 2005 18:36:09
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

k Leuck wrote:
> <jreilly@enter.net> wrote in message
> news:1133699601.674293.182090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
> > looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well as the
> > chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
> > hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?
> >
> > Jim, still near Reading, PA
>
> I rode one a month ago, forget about turning the front wheel more than a few
> degrees. The NoCom is a nice looking but impractical bike, I'll stick with
> my Baron[.]

Standard or "low" Baron? The large amount of tiller is very noticeable
on the stock Optima Baron setup, but it still handles quite well at
lower speeds.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 04 Dec 2005 21:39:24
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133750169.110128.255410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> k Leuck wrote:
> > <jreilly@enter.net> wrote in message
> > news:1133699601.674293.182090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
> > > looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well as the
> > > chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
> > > hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?
> > >
> > > Jim, still near Reading, PA
> >
> > I rode one a month ago, forget about turning the front wheel more than a
few
> > degrees. The NoCom is a nice looking but impractical bike, I'll stick
with
> > my Baron[.]
>
> Standard or "low" Baron? The large amount of tiller is very noticeable
> on the stock Optima Baron setup, but it still handles quite well at
> lower speeds.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Standard, I find the tiller not noticeable however I also don't think it
handles well at lower speeds




 
Date: 04 Dec 2005 18:32:49
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Jim Reilly who is still near Reading, PA (jreilly@enter.net) wrote:
> Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
> looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well as the
> chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
> hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?

I have ridden a couple of lowracers that run the chain by the front
wheel (this is an option on the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [TM]).
Useable steering "lock" is rather limited in this arrangement. The two
situations where wheel/chain interference are generally an issue are
when starting out and when making tight turns. The former can be dealt
with by proper starting technique, i.e., have the bike vertical, in the
proper gear, and the crank/pedals in an orientation that allows the
rider to generate the largest possible force on the pedal. The later
can be addressed by riding in a vehicular manner; i.e. not attempting
any maneuvers that one would not do in a motor vehicle. Negotiating
certain bike paths with sharps turns could be a problem, but this is
not the ideal environment for a bicycle like the Velokraft NoCom [1]
which begs to be ridden at higher speeds. At the 20+ mph (35+ kph)
speeds easily obtained on the NoCom, limited steering lock will not be
an issue.

[1] Until proven otherwise, the Velokraft NoCom is the fastest "Stock
Class" bicycle in the known universe.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 05 Dec 2005 16:09:39
From: nget
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

'Sunset Lowracer [TM Wrote:
> Fanatic']Jim Reilly who is still near Reading, PA (jreilly@enter.net
> wrote:
> > Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
> > looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well a
> the
> > chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
> > hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?
>
> I have ridden a couple of lowracers that run the chain by the front
> wheel (this is an option on the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [TM]).
> Useable steering "lock" is rather limited in this arrangement. The two
> situations where wheel/chain interference are generally an issue are
> when starting out and when making tight turns. The former can be dealt
> with by proper starting technique, i.e., have the bike vertical, i
> the
> proper gear, and the crank/pedals in an orientation that allows the
> rider to generate the largest possible force on the pedal. The later
> can be addressed by riding in a vehicular manner; i.e. not attempting
> any maneuvers that one would not do in a motor vehicle. Negotiating
> certain bike paths with sharps turns could be a problem, but this is
> not the ideal environment for a bicycle like the Velokraft NoCom [1]
> which begs to be ridden at higher speeds. At the 20+ mph (35+ kph)
> speeds easily obtained on the NoCom, limited steering lock will not be
> an issue.
>
> [1] Until proven otherwise, the Velokraft NoCom is the fastest "Stock
> Class" bicycle in the known universe.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

And the question is,what recumbent team won its category for the 200
Race across America?
Second question for Tom, your universe or the one the rest of us liv
in

--
nget



  
Date: 04 Dec 2005 21:31:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1133749968.937436.243830@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Jim Reilly who is still near Reading, PA (jreilly@enter.net) wrote:
>> Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
>> looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well as the
>> chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
>> hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?
>
> I have ridden a couple of lowracers that run the chain by the front
> wheel (this is an option on the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer [TM]).
> Useable steering "lock" is rather limited in this arrangement. The two
> situations where wheel/chain interference are generally an issue are
> when starting out and when making tight turns. The former can be dealt
> with by proper starting technique, i.e., have the bike vertical, in the
> proper gear, and the crank/pedals in an orientation that allows the
> rider to generate the largest possible force on the pedal. The later
> can be addressed by riding in a vehicular manner; i.e. not attempting
> any maneuvers that one would not do in a motor vehicle. Negotiating
> certain bike paths with sharps turns could be a problem, but this is
> not the ideal environment for a bicycle like the Velokraft NoCom [1]
> which begs to be ridden at higher speeds. At the 20+ mph (35+ kph)
> speeds easily obtained on the NoCom, limited steering lock will not be
> an issue.

In other words, a good bike for ideal riding conditions. However, in the
real world there hardly ever exist ideal riding conditions, most especially
not in urban areas. No thank you! I want a bike I can ride easily and
handily under any and all conditions. This includes really bad roads, sharp
turns, totally congested conditions where going slow is mandatory, ... the
list just goes on and on.

Some bikes are designed more for the race track than real roads. Anyone here
into racing? I thought not!

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

>
> [1] Until proven otherwise, the Velokraft NoCom is the fastest "Stock
> Class" bicycle in the known universe.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

PS. Mr. Sherman could just as easily have put his footnote in parenthesis in
the body of his message, thereby sparing us the tedium of having to look for
it in the cellar. One of these days I am going to write a long essay and
post it here on ARBR on why none of us should ever use footnotes. It is
nothing but a scholarly affectation which has no place here. As a former
college librarian who had to deal with these confounded things all the time,
I HATE FOOTNOTES! Does Mr. Sherman do this just to irritate me?






 
Date: 04 Dec 2005 04:33:21
From:
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well as the
chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?

Jim, still near Reading, PA



  
Date: 04 Dec 2005 17:17:19
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

<jreilly@enter.net > wrote in message
news:1133699601.674293.182090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Maybe you will. Chirstmas is coming. All joking aside, the NoCom
> looks amazing! Still the position of the rider's legs as well as the
> chain has me wondering how far one could turn the front wheel before
> hitting one or the other. What do you know about that?
>
> Jim, still near Reading, PA

I rode one a month ago, forget about turning the front wheel more than a few
degrees. The NoCom is a nice looking but impractical bike, I'll stick with
my Baron




 
Date: 03 Dec 2005 18:33:34
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

jreilly@enter.net wrote:
> I was hoping to hear a response from Mojo directly but I suppose an
> indirect response from the political arm of the Mojo Republican Army
> will have to do.

If this were the case, I should be getting a free Velokraft NoCom as
payment for my services.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 03 Dec 2005 05:35:20
From:
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success
I was hoping to hear a response from Mojo directly but I suppose an
indirect response from the political arm of the Mojo Republican Army
will have to do.

Jim



 
Date: 02 Dec 2005 18:13:35
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

jreilly@enter.net wrote:
> Your blog has made it clear that you don't like high racers, the
> Bacchetta Company, and it's owners? So what do you ride and why do
> like it?

The HRS blog has had positive comments about Volae (relative to other
highracers), Trek upright road bikes, the Velokraft NoCom, the Optima
Baron and the ReBike.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 02 Dec 2005 17:39:39
From:
Subject: Re: Protest rallies a huge success

Your blog has made it clear that you don't like high racers, the
Bacchetta Company, and it's owners? So what do you ride and why do
like it?

Jim Reilly
Reading, PA