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Date: 16 Apr 2007 13:54:55
From: OcalaPCBear
Subject: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
of here.





 
Date: 27 Apr 2007 15:55:25
From:
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
So what does this have to do with the fact that I DID include the
piece I was responding to. I can't help it if you use a poor
newsreader or don't know how to use one. Its obvious you're still new
to computers and how to read newsgroups.

Enjoy,

Perry B


On Apr 25, 2:25 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> <perry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1177365690.373846.137570@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 17, 2:33 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> >> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO
> >> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT!
> > My reader clearly shows that I DID "INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO WHICH
> > HE IS RESPONDING." So I guess that means you're "AN IDIOT!"
>
> It is time for Perry Butler of Fergus Falls, Minnesota to retire from life
> as he does not know what he writes, let alone what he reads. I think he may
> have Alzheimer's Disease, or at least the beginning stages of it. I know for
> a fact that there is a very good nursing home in Fergus Falls. I urge Perry
> Butler to avail himself of it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




  
Date: 02 May 2007 17:13:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1177714525.331671.25720@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!

> So what does this have to do with the fact that I DID include the
> piece I was responding to. I can't help it if you use a poor
> newsreader or don't know how to use one. Its obvious you're still new
> to computers and how to read newsgroups.

I did not see that you included any of the previous post to which you were
responding. In any event, you are a top poster and therefore an idiot. That
is all anyone on this group ever has to know about you.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



> On Apr 25, 2:25 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> <perry...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1177365690.373846.137570@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Apr 17, 2:33 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> >> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST
>> >> TO
>> >> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT!
>> > My reader clearly shows that I DID "INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO WHICH
>> > HE IS RESPONDING." So I guess that means you're "AN IDIOT!"
>>
>> It is time for Perry Butler of Fergus Falls, Minnesota to retire from
>> life
>> as he does not know what he writes, let alone what he reads. I think he
>> may
>> have Alzheimer's Disease, or at least the beginning stages of it. I know
>> for
>> a fact that there is a very good nursing home in Fergus Falls. I urge
>> Perry
>> Butler to avail himself of it.




 
Date: 26 Apr 2007 01:49:51
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 25, 2:56 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1176869350.694374.32810@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 10:13 pm, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in
> >> messagenews:1176864577.843450.288860@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Apr 17, 3:12 am, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> >> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:1176769828.896278.297500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" wrote:
> >> >> >> "OcalaPCBear" wrote in message
>
> >> >> >>news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> >> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested
> >> >> >> >in
> >> >> >> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an
> >> >> >> > intellectual
> >> >> >> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate
> >> >> >> > forum
> >> >> >> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
> >> >> >> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
> >> >> >> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore
> >> >> >> > him
> >> >> >> > he
> >> >> >> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block
> >> >> >> > his
> >> >> >> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm
> >> >> >> > out
> >> >> >> > of here.
>
> >> >> >> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people
> >> >> >> aren't
> >> >> >> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were
> >> >> >> going
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> read
> >> >> >> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.
>
> >> >> > Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> >> >> > DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> >> >> > Anyone else notice the correlation?
>
> >> >> Mr. Sherman's love affair with the Sunset Lowracer is quite
> >> >> idiosyncratic.
> >> >> However, I must admit I almost bought one myself some years ago but I
> >> >> could
> >> >> never overcome the high price....
>
> >> > What good is hoarding money (once one has enough for the necessities
> >> > of food, shelter, clothing and at least one recumbent)?
>
> >> It is not a question of hoarding money, but a question of having enough
> >> to
> >> live on. The god damn utilities alone are enough to kill you here in
> >> Worthington, Minnesota. And the g.d taxes - well, the less said about
> >> that
> >> the better. Everyone knows that Minnesota is right up there next to
> >> Massachusetts when it comes to taxes. Yea, Minnesota , the land of
> >> 10,000
> >> taxes.
>
> > When most USians complain about paying taxes, their real complaint is
> > that some of the tax money goes to people who are not of their race
> > and class. How many of the rich criticize corporate welfare (aka
> > socialism for business) or those of the middle class despise mortgage
> > deductions?
>
> Income taxes can be as high as is necessary (as long as you do not kill the
> golden goose which makes a surplus possible) to support essential social
> services. What is so unfair are property taxes. They are sky high here in
> Minnesota.
>
> > It is also those with the most who complain the loudest; though
> > doubling their taxes would not force any real change in their
> > lifestyle. The egotism of over promoting one's accomplishments,
> > ignoring the good fortune of birth into the proper family and social
> > class, and last but not least, undervaluing the contributions of
> > society and labor in wealth creation is an illness that is destroying
> > this nation and society.
>
> I am as poor as a church mouse and have been so all of my life. I am sitting
> on some downtown property which is not worth much, but I am being taxed to
> death regardless.
>
> By the way, your envy of the rich and well born is unworthy of you. Don't
> you know that money cannot buy happiness? President Nixon said it best. All
> you need is a certain minimum amount of money so that you do not have to
> constantly worry about it. After you have that minimum, you can go on to
> other things having nothing to do with money. Like ride your recumbents!...

Yo Eddie,

Stop making a fool of yourself by making assumptions. Envy is not even
in the picture.

It is morally wrong that a FEW who are GREEDY and WEALTHY cause so
much misery in others.

It is a "big lie" that a certain fraction of the capital class simply
wants to make money to have more possessions - in fact they already
make much more than they can spend. The issue (since the start of
civilization) is that some want to have power over others. For them to
"win", they mush make others lose.

--
Tom Sherman
Rationality, as the primary cognitive system for comprehending our
world, has been rejected in favor of unyielding dogmatic belief. -
David Michael Green



  
Date: 02 May 2007 17:35:35
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1177577391.781149.131310@b40g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Yo Eddie,
>
> Stop making a fool of yourself by making assumptions. Envy is not even
> in the picture.
>
> It is morally wrong that a FEW who are GREEDY and WEALTHY cause so
> much misery in others.
>
> It is a "big lie" that a certain fraction of the capital class simply
> wants to make money to have more possessions - in fact they already
> make much more than they can spend. The issue (since the start of
> civilization) is that some want to have power over others. For them to
> "win", they mush make others lose.

Anyone who spends as much time and energy bewailing the lot of the poor and
excoriating the lot of the rich is motivated by envy and nothing else. You
have more than enough to live on comfortably. Forget about the rich and get
on with your life.

The rich accumulate money because that is how you keep score. They are more
to be pitied than envied. The rich are no different than you and I. They
simply have more money. For example, Donald Trump is an asshole. Who would
ever say otherwise. Would you want to be him?

> Rationality, as the primary cognitive system for comprehending our
> world, has been rejected in favor of unyielding dogmatic belief. -
> David Michael Green

I rejected dogmatic belief when I attained the age of reason, which I think
happened when I was about 16 years old. However, for most folks dogmatic
belief is a relief as thinking about things on your own is hard work.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 15:01:30
From:
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 17, 2:33 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO
> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT!
My reader clearly shows that I DID "INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO WHICH
HE IS RESPONDING." So I guess that means you're "AN IDIOT!"

Enjoy,

Perry B



  
Date: 25 Apr 2007 02:25:04
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1177365690.373846.137570@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 17, 2:33 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO
>> WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT!
> My reader clearly shows that I DID "INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO WHICH
> HE IS RESPONDING." So I guess that means you're "AN IDIOT!"

It is time for Perry Butler of Fergus Falls, Minnesota to retire from life
as he does not know what he writes, let alone what he reads. I think he may
have Alzheimer's Disease, or at least the beginning stages of it. I know for
a fact that there is a very good nursing home in Fergus Falls. I urge Perry
Butler to avail himself of it.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 18 Apr 2007 04:47:38
From: Dan B.
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 16, 8:30 pm, "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman"
<sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
<snip >
>
> Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> Anyone else notice the correlation?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If you would care to donate one of your Sunset Lowracers to me for
research purposes, I would be happy to provide another data point for
your analysis. :-)

Best,

Dan



 
Date: 17 Apr 2007 21:09:10
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 17, 10:13 pm, Edward Dolan wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in messagenews:1176864577.843450.288860@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Apr 17, 3:12 am, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in
> >> messagenews:1176769828.896278.297500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" wrote:
> >> >> "OcalaPCBear" wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
> >> >> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
> >> >> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an
> >> >> > intellectual
> >> >> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate
> >> >> > forum
> >> >> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
> >> >> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
> >> >> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him
> >> >> > he
> >> >> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
> >> >> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm
> >> >> > out
> >> >> > of here.
>
> >> >> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people
> >> >> aren't
> >> >> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were
> >> >> going
> >> >> to
> >> >> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and
> >> >> all
> >> >> it
> >> >> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to
> >> >> read
> >> >> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.
>
> >> > Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> >> > DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> >> > Anyone else notice the correlation?
>
> >> Mr. Sherman's love affair with the Sunset Lowracer is quite
> >> idiosyncratic.
> >> However, I must admit I almost bought one myself some years ago but I
> >> could
> >> never overcome the high price....
>
> > What good is hoarding money (once one has enough for the necessities
> > of food, shelter, clothing and at least one recumbent)?
>
> It is not a question of hoarding money, but a question of having enough to
> live on. The god damn utilities alone are enough to kill you here in
> Worthington, Minnesota. And the g.d taxes - well, the less said about that
> the better. Everyone knows that Minnesota is right up there next to
> Massachusetts when it comes to taxes. Yea, Minnesota , the land of 10,000
> taxes.

When most USians complain about paying taxes, their real complaint is
that some of the tax money goes to people who are not of their race
and class. How many of the rich criticize corporate welfare (aka
socialism for business) or those of the middle class despise mortgage
deductions?

It is also those with the most who complain the loudest; though
doubling their taxes would not force any real change in their
lifestyle. The egotism of over promoting one's accomplishments,
ignoring the good fortune of birth into the proper family and social
class, and last but not least, undervaluing the contributions of
society and labor in wealth creation is an illness that is destroying
this nation and society.

One must question the patriotism of those who begrudge supporting the
common good of the nation.

> > The Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer is FUN to look at, FUN to discuss and
> > lastly (and most importantly) FUN to ride.
>
> > The Sunset Lowracer is also [drum roll] ON TOPIC for
> > alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, so no one can legitimately complain no
> > matter how many times I mention it.
>
> I do not mind anyone mentioning recumbents no matter how often. After all,
> I have got 12 recumbents myself (3 of them are recumbent trikes). Anyone
> else on this group even approach this number?

butbutbut, the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer is the Most Fun Bicycle in
the Known Universe!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful



  
Date: 25 Apr 2007 02:56:21
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1176869350.694374.32810@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 17, 10:13 pm, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in
>> messagenews:1176864577.843450.288860@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Apr 17, 3:12 am, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1176769828.896278.297500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" wrote:
>> >> >> "OcalaPCBear" wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested
>> >> >> >in
>> >> >> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from
>> >> >> > an
>> >> >> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an
>> >> >> > intellectual
>> >> >> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate
>> >> >> > forum
>> >> >> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
>> >> >> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
>> >> >> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore
>> >> >> > him
>> >> >> > he
>> >> >> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block
>> >> >> > his
>> >> >> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm
>> >> >> > out
>> >> >> > of here.
>>
>> >> >> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people
>> >> >> aren't
>> >> >> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were
>> >> >> going
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> read
>> >> >> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.
>>
>> >> > Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>>
>> >> > DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>>
>> >> > Anyone else notice the correlation?
>>
>> >> Mr. Sherman's love affair with the Sunset Lowracer is quite
>> >> idiosyncratic.
>> >> However, I must admit I almost bought one myself some years ago but I
>> >> could
>> >> never overcome the high price....
>>
>> > What good is hoarding money (once one has enough for the necessities
>> > of food, shelter, clothing and at least one recumbent)?
>>
>> It is not a question of hoarding money, but a question of having enough
>> to
>> live on. The god damn utilities alone are enough to kill you here in
>> Worthington, Minnesota. And the g.d taxes - well, the less said about
>> that
>> the better. Everyone knows that Minnesota is right up there next to
>> Massachusetts when it comes to taxes. Yea, Minnesota , the land of
>> 10,000
>> taxes.
>
> When most USians complain about paying taxes, their real complaint is
> that some of the tax money goes to people who are not of their race
> and class. How many of the rich criticize corporate welfare (aka
> socialism for business) or those of the middle class despise mortgage
> deductions?

Income taxes can be as high as is necessary (as long as you do not kill the
golden goose which makes a surplus possible) to support essential social
services. What is so unfair are property taxes. They are sky high here in
Minnesota.

> It is also those with the most who complain the loudest; though
> doubling their taxes would not force any real change in their
> lifestyle. The egotism of over promoting one's accomplishments,
> ignoring the good fortune of birth into the proper family and social
> class, and last but not least, undervaluing the contributions of
> society and labor in wealth creation is an illness that is destroying
> this nation and society.

I am as poor as a church mouse and have been so all of my life. I am sitting
on some downtown property which is not worth much, but I am being taxed to
death regardless.

By the way, your envy of the rich and well born is unworthy of you. Don't
you know that money cannot buy happiness? President Nixon said it best. All
you need is a certain minimum amount of money so that you do not have to
constantly worry about it. After you have that minimum, you can go on to
other things having nothing to do with money. Like ride your recumbents!

> One must question the patriotism of those who begrudge supporting the
> common good of the nation.

I served 4 years in the Navy as an enlisted man and I think I may have made
a maximum of $100. a month. What did you do in that department, pray tell?

>> > The Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer is FUN to look at, FUN to discuss and
>> > lastly (and most importantly) FUN to ride.
>>
>> > The Sunset Lowracer is also [drum roll] ON TOPIC for
>> > alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, so no one can legitimately complain no
>> > matter how many times I mention it.
>>
>> I do not mind anyone mentioning recumbents no matter how often. After
>> all,
>> I have got 12 recumbents myself (3 of them are recumbent trikes). Anyone
>> else on this group even approach this number?
>
> butbutbut, the Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer is the Most Fun Bicycle in
> the Known Universe!

All recumbents are very different from one another and each have their
advantages and disadvantages. I can have fun on ALL of my recumbents.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 17 Apr 2007 19:49:37
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 17, 3:12 am, Edward Dolan wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in messagenews:1176769828.896278.297500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" wrote:
> >> "OcalaPCBear" wrote in message
>
> >>news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
> >> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
> >> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
> >> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
> >> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
> >> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
> >> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
> >> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
> >> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
> >> > of here.
>
> >> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people aren't
> >> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were going
> >> to
> >> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and all
> >> it
> >> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to read
> >> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.
>
> > Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> > DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> > Anyone else notice the correlation?
>
> Mr. Sherman's love affair with the Sunset Lowracer is quite idiosyncratic.
> However, I must admit I almost bought one myself some years ago but I could
> never overcome the high price....

What good is hoarding money (once one has enough for the necessities
of food, shelter, clothing and at least one recumbent)?

The Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer is FUN to look at, FUN to discuss and
lastly (and most importantly) FUN to ride.

The Sunset Lowracer is also [drum roll] ON TOPIC for
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, so no one can legitimately complain no
matter how many times I mention it.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful



  
Date: 17 Apr 2007 22:13:51
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1176864577.843450.288860@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 17, 3:12 am, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote in
>> messagenews:1176769828.896278.297500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" wrote:
>> >> "OcalaPCBear" wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
>> >> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
>> >> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an
>> >> > intellectual
>> >> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate
>> >> > forum
>> >> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
>> >> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
>> >> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him
>> >> > he
>> >> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
>> >> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm
>> >> > out
>> >> > of here.
>>
>> >> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people
>> >> aren't
>> >> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were
>> >> going
>> >> to
>> >> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and
>> >> all
>> >> it
>> >> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to
>> >> read
>> >> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.
>>
>> > Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>>
>> > DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>>
>> > Anyone else notice the correlation?
>>
>> Mr. Sherman's love affair with the Sunset Lowracer is quite
>> idiosyncratic.
>> However, I must admit I almost bought one myself some years ago but I
>> could
>> never overcome the high price....
>
> What good is hoarding money (once one has enough for the necessities
> of food, shelter, clothing and at least one recumbent)?

It is not a question of hoarding money, but a question of having enough to
live on. The god damn utilities alone are enough to kill you here in
Worthington, Minnesota. And the g.d taxes - well, the less said about that
the better. Everyone knows that Minnesota is right up there next to
Massachusetts when it comes to taxes. Yea, Minnesota , the land of 10,000
taxes.

> The Earth Cycles Sunset Lowracer is FUN to look at, FUN to discuss and
> lastly (and most importantly) FUN to ride.
>
> The Sunset Lowracer is also [drum roll] ON TOPIC for
> alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, so no one can legitimately complain no
> matter how many times I mention it.

I do not mind anyone mentioning recumbents no matter how often. After all,
I have got 12 recumbents myself (3 of them are recumbent trikes). Anyone
else on this group even approach this number?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 17 Apr 2007 02:24:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"OcalaPCBear" <bill.mills.53@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
> recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
> idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
> as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
> for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
> group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
> Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
> will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
> posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
> of here.

Anyone want to engage OcalaPCBear (Bill Mills) in a conversation? I thought
not!

I do occasionally post recumbent related messages but it is rare since
everyone else on this group is a moron and a scoundrel to boot. Why waste
time on such miscreants?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 16 Apr 2007 17:30:28
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" <gotbe...@spamtrap.com > wrote:
> "OcalaPCBear" <bill.mills...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
> > of here.
>
> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people aren't
> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were going to
> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and all it
> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to read
> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.

Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.

DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.

Anyone else notice the correlation?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful




  
Date: 17 Apr 2007 03:12:06
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1176769828.896278.297500@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 16, 5:31 pm, "gotbent" <gotbe...@spamtrap.com> wrote:
>> "OcalaPCBear" <bill.mills...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
>> > recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
>> > idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
>> > as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
>> > for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
>> > group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
>> > Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
>> > will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
>> > posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
>> > of here.
>>
>> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people aren't
>> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were going
>> to
>> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and all
>> it
>> did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to read
>> your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.
>
> Whines about "The Troll" - does NOT own a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> DOES NOT whine about "The Troll" - OWNS a Sunset Lowracer.
>
> Anyone else notice the correlation?

Mr. Sherman's love affair with the Sunset Lowracer is quite idiosyncratic.
However, I must admit I almost bought one myself some years ago but I could
never overcome the high price. So instead I got a WizWheelz and I have never
looked back. More and more I have come to appreciate its low crank (the
present ones have a much higher crank).

The new Hostel Shoppe catalog has now come out and anyone but me notice how
high the cranks are on all the short wheel base recumbents? Only RANS
remains sensible to me. The Volaes all have way too high a crank - at least
for my foot circulation. The only advantage of a high crank is the laid back
seat position, which gives you the ultimate in comfort. But at what cost?
Yup - foot numbness. Thanks, but no thanks.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





 
Date: 16 Apr 2007 17:28:16
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Apr 16, 4:46 pm, Joao wrote:
> Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
> are now at Bentrider Online -http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/

Who is "everyone"?

BROL is a good place for those who would rather whine about some off-
topic posts by a troll, rather than contribute on-topic content.

The troll was not able to bring down rec.bicycles.misc, since the
regulars kept on posting cycling related material instead of running
to a moderated web forum.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful



  
Date: 17 Apr 2007 02:42:47
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1176769696.768352.57890@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 16, 4:46 pm, Joao wrote:
>> Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
>> are now at Bentrider Online -http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/
>
> Who is "everyone"?
>
> BROL is a good place for those who would rather whine about some off-
> topic posts by a troll, rather than contribute on-topic content.
>
> The troll was not able to bring down rec.bicycles.misc, since the
> regulars kept on posting cycling related material instead of running
> to a moderated web forum.

Mr. Sherman is quite right about that! RBM is a MUCH larger group that ARBR.
However, I knew from the get-go that it was impossible to bring down such a
large newsgroup. RBM, like all the other cycling newsgroups, is mostly
composed of idiots who are into nothing but chit-chat. Screw them all the
way to hell and back! Ed Dolan the Great does not care about chit-chatters -
and I will not allow it on ARBR. Either post some substance or get lost!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 16 Apr 2007 15:35:04
From:
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
Ed Dolan isn't the only troll here that's helped ruin this newsgroup.
Those who respond to Ed again and again have even lower intelligence!
Fools talking to fools!

Enjoy,

Perry B

On Apr 16, 4:46 pm, Joao <n...@here.not > wrote:
> Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
> are now at Bentrider Online -http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/




  
Date: 17 Apr 2007 02:33:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1176762904.825519.226650@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS! NOR DOES HE EVEN INCLUDE ANY OF THE POST TO
WHICH HE IS RESPONDING. WHAT AN IDIOT!

> Ed Dolan isn't the only troll here that's helped ruin this newsgroup.
> Those who respond to Ed again and again have even lower intelligence!
> Fools talking to fools!

Perry Butler is only talking about himself. He was not only a troll at one
time, but also a stalker. Folks, you do not sink any lower than that!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 16 Apr 2007 17:31:57
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"OcalaPCBear" <bill.mills.53@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
> recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
> idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
> as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
> for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
> group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
> Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
> will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
> posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
> of here.
>

Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people aren't
spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were going to
share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and all it
did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to read
your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



  
Date: 17 Apr 2007 02:53:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"gotbent" <gotbents@spamtrap.com > wrote in message
news:4623ed11$0$16282$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
> "OcalaPCBear" <bill.mills.53@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1176756895.870344.223900@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>I joined this group a couple of weeks ago because I am interested in
>> recumbent bicycles. All I have seen so far is tons of drivel from an
>> idiot named Edward Dolan. Eddie boy....if you are such an intellectual
>> as you seem to think you are, why can't you find the appropriate forum
>> for your comments? This is a group about recumbent bicycles not a
>> group to expound on Edward Dolan. Go make yourself a group named
>> Edward Dolan and have a ball! To the rest of you....just ignore him he
>> will go away. Or better yet....is there a moderator? If so block his
>> posts. As for me I have far better things to do with my time. I'm out
>> of here.
>>
>
> Wow! What a pathetic rant. There are bent posts here when people aren't
> spouting off about Ed. Where's the recumbent themed post you were going to
> share with us Ocala...? This looks like your first and last post and all
> it did was add to the background noise. Shame on you for enticing us to
> read your lame complaint with a catchy subject title.

Yes, Gotbent and I are not all that far apart on what it takes to have a
viable newsgroup.

I am here mostly for housekeeping chores. I do not want to see this
newsgroup become a chat room for clubby types. I think maybe Gotbent and I
might agree on this.

Furthermore, I will stay off of politics if everyone else also stays off of
politics. If you don't, then I will be here for you. However, I do like to
comment from time to time on cultural matters and I will not ever object to
anyone who wants to take me on in a civil manner.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 16 Apr 2007 17:46:48
From: Joao
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
are now at Bentrider Online - http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/


  
Date: 18 Apr 2007 18:07:42
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
In article <1327rrkpmlt6peb@news.supernews.com >, not@here.not says...
>
> Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
> are now at Bentrider Online - http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/

What troll? Get a half-decent newsreader and it need never disturb your
tranquility again :-)

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ >
Mushroom! Mushroom!


   
Date: 18 Apr 2007 14:48:55
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
Dave Larrington wrote:
> In article <1327rrkpmlt6peb@news.supernews.com>, not@here.not says...
>> Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
>> are now at Bentrider Online - http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/
>
> What troll? Get a half-decent newsreader and it need never disturb your
> tranquility again :-)
>

Yea but apparently there are no more free decent newsreaders anymore.....


    
Date: 18 Apr 2007 16:01:04
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:55 -0500, DougC <dcimper@norcom2000.com >
wrote:

>Yea but apparently there are no more free decent newsreaders anymore....

Free Agent is still out there. I use Agent instead, but remember FA as
OK, especially for being free. Don't know if Forte kludged up FA like
they have to some degree with Agent.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


     
Date: 18 Apr 2007 17:20:26
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:55 -0500, DougC <dcimper@norcom2000.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yea but apparently there are no more free decent newsreaders anymore....
>
> Free Agent is still out there. I use Agent instead, but remember FA as
> OK, especially for being free. Don't know if Forte kludged up FA like
> they have to some degree with Agent.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...

Free Agent is not free anymore. Apparently the current trial only works
for 30 days, and then you gotta pay for it.
~


      
Date: 19 Apr 2007 17:53:16
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
In article <VPwVh.864$go5.66@newsfe12.lga >, dcimper@norcom2000.com
says...
> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:55 -0500, DougC <dcimper@norcom2000.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yea but apparently there are no more free decent newsreaders anymore....
> >
> > Free Agent is still out there. I use Agent instead, but remember FA as
> > OK, especially for being free. Don't know if Forte kludged up FA like
> > they have to some degree with Agent.
> >
> > Curtis L. Russell
> > Odenton, MD (USA)
> > Just someone on two wheels...
>
> Free Agent is not free anymore. Apparently the current trial only works
> for 30 days, and then you gotta pay for it.

I'm using Gravity. Free, albeit unsupported, and can filter on message
bodies as well as subject etc., thereby making it possible to filter out
not only trolls but also any messages replying to same.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ >
Putting just the right amount of gin in your goldfish bowl makes the
fishies' eyes bulge and causes them to swim in a very amusing manner.


       
Date: 25 Apr 2007 02:37:39
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Dave Larrington" <smert.spamionam@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.2091aed430d15fbf98973f@news.individual.net...
> In article <VPwVh.864$go5.66@newsfe12.lga>, dcimper@norcom2000.com
> says...
>> Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>> > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:48:55 -0500, DougC <dcimper@norcom2000.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yea but apparently there are no more free decent newsreaders
>> >> anymore....
>> >
>> > Free Agent is still out there. I use Agent instead, but remember FA as
>> > OK, especially for being free. Don't know if Forte kludged up FA like
>> > they have to some degree with Agent.
>> >
>> > Curtis L. Russell
>> > Odenton, MD (USA)
>> > Just someone on two wheels...
>>
>> Free Agent is not free anymore. Apparently the current trial only works
>> for 30 days, and then you gotta pay for it.
>
> I'm using Gravity. Free, albeit unsupported, and can filter on message
> bodies as well as subject etc., thereby making it possible to filter out
> not only trolls but also any messages replying to same.
>
> Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
> Putting just the right amount of gin in your goldfish bowl makes the
> fishies' eyes bulge and causes them to swim in a very amusing manner.

The only person on this group that needs to be filtered is old Dave
Larrington himself. I don't believe he has ever posted any message to this
newsgroup that anyone in their right mind would want to read. Why is that I
wonder? Well, besides being boring and trivial in all of his remarks, I
think he has become addled from all that beer he is constantly guzzling like
the drunk that he is. He probably goes to the football games there in
England and behaves like the thugs that the English have become. I think
they call them hoodlums. I just call them White Trash.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





       
Date: 19 Apr 2007 13:10:31
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:53:16 +0100, Dave Larrington
<smert.spamionam@privacy.net > wrote:

>I'm using Gravity. Free, albeit unsupported, and can filter on message
>bodies as well as subject etc., thereby making it possible to filter out
>not only trolls but also any messages replying to same.

There is something basically unsettling about Gravity not being
supported...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...


  
Date: 17 Apr 2007 02:27:13
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Recumbent Bicycle Group or Not?

"Joao" <not@here.not > wrote in message
news:1327rrkpmlt6peb@news.supernews.com...
>
> Due to all the trolls, everyone has abandoned this group. The majority
> are now at Bentrider Online - http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/

Yes, go there and be damned! We do not want those who need to be baby sat on
this newsgroup. BROL is for babies like Joao. He is from Brazil and never
has a clue about anything.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota