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Date: 10 May 2005 21:34:39
From: Philbert
Subject: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Geez, folks, I was hoping things would have settled down, but this is just
pitiful. Some here are looking forward to some heavy-duty bad karma.

May be this group should be called "alt.rec.pompous.egomaniac.cyclists".
That's about what's left here.

Best wishes to all the helpful folk who were here (and to those who remain
lurking). To the rest, well, remember that time wounds all heels...






 
Date: 17 May 2005 22:02:39
From: Philbert
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Well, I guess this thread says pretty much all it has to...

I lurked in this NG for a couple years, and yes, posted rarely to ask some
questions I couldn't get answers to and to share a couple special
experiences I thought others might enjoy (a truly magical midnight ride
under a full moon, and being herded off the road by the neighbor's harmless
but over-enthusiastic collie). When the tone of discourse and the signal to
noise ratio dropped too far, I bid farewell rather add to the pointless
cacaphony. I won't participate in an enterprise where presumably adult
members routinely demonstrate behaviors I won't tolerate from my own
children. I stopped back to see how things were going, truly hoping that
they had changed. Alas, that's still mostly not the case, as many (but not
all) of the responses to my admittedly (and intentionally) provocative post
show more clearly than anything I can say.

To those still trying to make this group a worthwhile endeavour, you have my
respect and admiration. To the others, well, there's really no point in
saying anything - others have already said it all, and probably better than
I. You didn't get it then and you still haven't.

Flame away, if you must (indeed, I doubt some will be able to resist the
temptation) but remember, you can probably out-ride me, but your karma will
catch you every time.




  
Date: 18 May 2005 07:05:59
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Philbert" <philbertNOSPAM@voyager.net > wrote in message
news:118l8i31cfvln85@corp.supernews.com...
[...]
> To those still trying to make this group a worthwhile endeavour, you have
> my
> respect and admiration. To the others, well, there's really no point in
> saying anything - others have already said it all, and probably better
> than
> I. You didn't get it then and you still haven't.

Ed Dolan the Great is still plugging away trying to make the group a
worthwhile endeavor, but he is not having much luck because of all the
trolls (like Wayne LoGo the Poet and Guy Chapman of the UK) residing on the
group and the lack of well disposed souls like Philbert who refuse to post
(except to complain). If all the Philberts in recumbent land would just post
the group would soon revive and we could get rid of some of these abominable
trolls who currently infest the group like flies on a dung heap.

My God, I think I am starting to sound like Jon Meinecke!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




  
Date: 17 May 2005 21:42:42
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Philbert" <philbertNOSPAM@voyager.net > wrote in message
news:118l8i31cfvln85@corp.supernews.com...
> Well, I guess this thread says pretty much all it has to...
>
> I lurked in this NG for a couple years, and yes, posted rarely to ask some
> questions I couldn't get answers to and to share a couple special
> experiences I thought others might enjoy (a truly magical midnight ride
> under a full moon, and being herded off the road by the neighbor's
> harmless
> but over-enthusiastic collie). When the tone of discourse and the signal
> to
> noise ratio dropped too far, I bid farewell rather add to the pointless
> cacaphony. I won't participate in an enterprise where presumably adult
> members routinely demonstrate behaviors I won't tolerate from my own
> children. I stopped back to see how things were going, truly hoping that
> they had changed. Alas, that's still mostly not the case, as many (but
> not
> all) of the responses to my admittedly (and intentionally) provocative
> post
> show more clearly than anything I can say.
>
> To those still trying to make this group a worthwhile endeavour, you have
> my
> respect and admiration. To the others, well, there's really no point in
> saying anything - others have already said it all, and probably better
> than
> I. You didn't get it then and you still haven't.
>
> Flame away, if you must (indeed, I doubt some will be able to resist the
> temptation) but remember, you can probably out-ride me, but your karma
> will
> catch you every time.
>
>

Just curious Philbert what kind of response were you expecting from your
"admittedly (and intentionally) provocative post"? Were you expecting to
reap something other than what you had sown?





 
Date: 14 May 2005 07:26:35
From: LoGo USA
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
In the 'Smoking Gun...' thread, trillingly trolleth the TROLL:

>To want to talk about nothing but recumbents is the province
>of small and stunted minds and I will not allow myself to be
>limited like that...

I agree it would be a real shame
If all talk - unlike TROLLS? - were the same,
But I think that most folks have a life,
Other forums, or even a wife,
And their 'limits' extend far beyond
This one newsgroup, a pretty small pond.

It's just fine to discuss politics,
Eskimos, puppets, peppermint sticks,
Minnesotans and their petty spats,
But is ARBR the place for those chats?
In good spirits perhaps, like grown men,
But please try to get out now and then...

When a reader peeks in on this group,
He is saddened, or thrown for a loop,
Or disgusted like Philbert and Bob
If it's five percent bikes plus a glob
Of irrelevant BULL. My two cents:
Let's keep ARBR's main focus on 'bents.

Then from this, the 'Stepped back in' thread, - OOOPS! I
meant 'Stopped...' of course:

>... vandal... vandal criminal troll... I am a good
>troll and enhance the group... sock puppet... vandals...
>vandal criminal troll... criminal vandal troll... Either
>top post or get lost, you dumbbell! ... I am a good troll
>who loves to tweak the group... That should be bottom
>post of course, but the rest of the statement stands...
>My only purpose in being here is to furnish some wit and
>knowledge and to occasionally tell a story or two...

A TROLL MIGHT in real life be a saint,
But at ARBR, he quite clearly ain't.
Though he says (twenty times) that's he's "good",
If the TROLL doesn't do what he should,
BOTTOM LINE: [May I have a drum roll?]
Folks, the TROLL is a TROLL is a TROLL!

And a TROLL is annoying at best,
Always blathering, thumping his chest,
TROLLS do more harm than good, and in fact
ARBR's TROLL needs to clean up his act!
Want specifics? That's not hard to do;
Off the top of my head here's a few:

To begin with, the raw message count:
For the TROLL an oppressive amount
Of the posts in a typical thread
Seem to come from the same muddled head.
Is 'prolific' the term that applies,
Or some form of the verb 'fertilize'?

If there's twenty-five postings in all
>From eight people, I think I would call
It excessive (and maybe obscene)
That the TROLL wrote perhaps seventeen.
My suggestion: Please back off a tad.
Domination's not "good"; it is BAD.

Number two? A TROLL writes all of us
When involved in a personal fuss.
My suggestion: Control that big mouth.
Minnesota - north versus the south?
There are only two people who care.
Keep it private; it's like underwear!

Please don't share while you're picking your zits.
Petty squabbles and personal snits?
On behalf of the folks who peruse
Such embarrassing verbal abuse,
I assure you we'd much rather pass.
Please use email - or maybe more class?

Number three: those redundant repeats -
Duplications and echoes of bleats,
That we read the first time, and the third,
Repetitious, almost word for word.
My suggestion: Please say it just once;
And then spare us from further affonts.

Number four on this quick list of goals
For the gentrification of TROLLS
Is to stop playing Emily Roast
Chiding those who prefer to top post.
If you've gotta tell folks how to write,
Please, at least keep it tactful and light.

Plus it's probably worthy of note:
As he jumped on some kid or old goat,
One old TROLL was a bit off the k,
And he should have just kept it in PARK.
Usenet netiquette mavens now say
When you quote in reply, here's the way:

Don't just blindly include the whole post;
Only quote what applies - at the most
A short paragraph, maybe, or two -
Of the part that relates to what you
Have to state (or mistate) in reply.
Yeah, I know that it's hard, but please try.

Is that all that 'a TROLL with a heart'
Has to do to be 'good'? ... It's a start.
Now I guess we'll all see if a TROLL
Who insists that he's good (on the whole?)
Can live up to his own fervent claim...
Of if, sadly, all TROLLS are the same.

Regards,
Wayne
TROLL Training, Ltd.



  
Date: 15 May 2005 05:13:15
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"LoGo USA" <wayne@logo-us.com > wrote in message
news:1116080795.485549.73540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> In the 'Smoking Gun...' thread, trillingly trolleth the TROLL:
>
>>To want to talk about nothing but recumbents is the province
>>of small and stunted minds and I will not allow myself to be
>>limited like that...
>
> I agree it would be a real shame
> If all talk - unlike TROLLS? - were the same,
> But I think that most folks have a life,
> Other forums, or even a wife,
> And their 'limits' extend far beyond
> This one newsgroup, a pretty small pond.

I spend about 30 minutes maximum on ARBR every day. I think you must be
spending quite a bit more as searching for words to rhyme will take more
time.

> It's just fine to discuss politics,
> Eskimos, puppets, peppermint sticks,
> Minnesotans and their petty spats,
> But is ARBR the place for those chats?
> In good spirits perhaps, like grown men,
> But please try to get out now and then...

ARBR is not a bad place for those chats. It relieves the monotony of all the
other on topic posts. Is there anything more boring in this world than
reading about how some want to ride fast on their blooming bikes.

> When a reader peeks in on this group,
> He is saddened, or thrown for a loop,
> Or disgusted like Philbert and Bob
> If it's five percent bikes plus a glob
> Of irrelevant BULL. My two cents:
> Let's keep ARBR's main focus on 'bents.

Newbies can always find what they are looking for without much trouble. That
is why threads have subject titles.

> Then from this, the 'Stepped back in' thread, - OOOPS! I
> meant 'Stopped...' of course:
>
>>... vandal... vandal criminal troll... I am a good
>>troll and enhance the group... sock puppet... vandals...
>>vandal criminal troll... criminal vandal troll... Either
>>top post or get lost, you dumbbell! ... I am a good troll
>>who loves to tweak the group... That should be bottom
>>post of course, but the rest of the statement stands...
>>My only purpose in being here is to furnish some wit and
>>knowledge and to occasionally tell a story or two...
>
> A TROLL MIGHT in real life be a saint,
> But at ARBR, he quite clearly ain't.
> Though he says (twenty times) that's he's "good",
> If the TROLL doesn't do what he should,
> BOTTOM LINE: [May I have a drum roll?]
> Folks, the TROLL is a TROLL is a TROLL!

Inquire not for whom the bell trolls, it trolls for thee!

Trolls can be the most interesting of anyone to be found on a newsgroup.
Witness your posting to this group as of late.

Clearly, I am an inspiration to your muse. Anyone who is reading this thread
besides you and me is way above the usual slobs to be found on this group. I
am sure Slugger is not reading any of this for instance. Leuck might be
reading some of this as he is st enough, but he is a total slob when it
comes to the manner of his posting. He refuses to use punctuation ks and
has a special antipathy for the humble period. However, it may be that he
thinks in phrases instead of in sentences like most normal people do. It
would be good for him to read your verse as you are excellent at punctuation
and can serve as an example to us all.

> And a TROLL is annoying at best,
> Always blathering, thumping his chest,
> TROLLS do more harm than good, and in fact
> ARBR's TROLL needs to clean up his act!
> Want specifics? That's not hard to do;
> Off the top of my head here's a few:
>
> To begin with, the raw message count:
> For the TROLL an oppressive amount
> Of the posts in a typical thread
> Seem to come from the same muddled head.
> Is 'prolific' the term that applies,
> Or some form of the verb 'fertilize'?

I take pride in comparing my count to the likes of Sherman. His messages
normally only consisted of a few lines, usually answering some newbie's
question about tires sizes or some other esoteric subject that no one is
interested in except him and the newbie. My messages range far and wide and
there is something in them for everyone, even for someone such as you. I wax
prolific on every subject under the sun, but I do try to stay off the
subject of recumbents as much as possible as there are many others here who
like to talk about that. After all, I do not want to monopolize all the
discussions on ARBR the way Sherman did.

> If there's twenty-five postings in all
>>From eight people, I think I would call
> It excessive (and maybe obscene)
> That the TROLL wrote perhaps seventeen.
> My suggestion: Please back off a tad.
> Domination's not "good"; it is BAD.

The main thing is to be responsive which I think I always am. It actually
takes brains to be responsive. Criminal trolls are never responsive. They
just spew forth their bile for no other purpose than to annoy. I NEVER do
that!

However, you do have a point. There are many messages that are complete in
themselves and do not call for a response. But the trouble is I have such a
fertile mind that I can always manage a response to ANYTHING. But I mean to
add to what has been said, not to subtract. But I do agree with you, I need
to rein myself in a bit.

But wouldn't you feel bad if I didn't respond to this poem of yours about
trolls? Of course you would as you put a lot of work into it. I would be
remiss and feel bad if I didn't get back to you. Most messages aren't worth
bothering with, but yours clearly are. [Should yours be your's or yours' I
wonder?]

> Number two? A TROLL writes all of us
> When involved in a personal fuss.
> My suggestion: Control that big mouth.
> Minnesota - north versus the south?
> There are only two people who care.
> Keep it private; it's like underwear!

One of my main gripes about newsgroups and ARBR in particular is that you
never know where anyone is from. I just learned from another post of yours
that you are located in Southern California. Is this important? Yes, to me
it is . It tells me things about you that you would never suspect. I assure
you that Southern California is very different than Southern Minnesota and
that those differences are significant.

A poster who has no identity other than his bare message is a waste of time.
Place and personality count. For instance, you have already established a
considerable personality here on ARBR because of the manner of your posting.
So have I. Is this good? Hell yes, it is good!

> Please don't share while you're picking your zits.
> Petty squabbles and personal snits?
> On behalf of the folks who peruse
> Such embarrassing verbal abuse,
> I assure you we'd much rather pass.
> Please use email - or maybe more class?

I am never writing to just one person when I post to ARBR. Even this present
message of mine is for the group. It is not just for you any more than your
message is just for me. We can all learn and/or be amused by what others are
saying. Emails are emails and newsgorups are something else altogether.
Group is the key word in newsgroup in case you are confused.

> Number three: those redundant repeats -
> Duplications and echoes of bleats,
> That we read the first time, and the third,
> Repetitious, almost word for word.
> My suggestion: Please say it just once;
> And then spare us from further affonts.

"affonts" should be affronts.

Repetition is the key to all learning. Saying something once is NEVER
enough. Hells Bells! Repetition is the key to just getting through someone
else's thick skull and letting them know you are there. I thought everyone
knew this.

> Number four on this quick list of goals
> For the gentrification of TROLLS
> Is to stop playing Emily Roast
> Chiding those who prefer to top post.
> If you've gotta tell folks how to write,
> Please, at least keep it tactful and light.

Keeping things "tactful and light" is a waste of time and energy with this
group. Those who top post know full well that what they are doing is wrong
and they do it anyway because they are lazy slobs. I tell it like it is and
let the chips fall where they may.

A certain amount of housekeeping is necessary on any newsgroup or else the
slobs take over and rule the place. I do not think you would like that any
better than I do.

> Plus it's probably worthy of note:
> As he jumped on some kid or old goat,
> One old TROLL was a bit off the k,
> And he should have just kept it in PARK.
> Usenet netiquette mavens now say
> When you quote in reply, here's the way:
>
> Don't just blindly include the whole post;
> Only quote what applies - at the most
> A short paragraph, maybe, or two -
> Of the part that relates to what you
> Have to state (or mistate) in reply.
> Yeah, I know that it's hard, but please try.

I certainly do agree with you about editing. The fact is that most on this
group simply do not know how to edit. Since most do not know how to edit,
it is better to include the entire post to which you are responding if only
in part rather than to make a mess of the editing. For instance, Guy Chapman
of England has butchered more of my posts by faulty editing than anyone
else. He is intelligent but he does not know how to edit. Context is
everything and it always matters.

Also, please note that I am very good at responding to an entire post and
not to just parts of it, especially if it is an intelligent post to begin
with.

> Is that all that 'a TROLL with a heart'
> Has to do to be 'good'? ... It's a start.
> Now I guess we'll all see if a TROLL
> Who insists that he's good (on the whole?)
> Can live up to his own fervent claim...
> Of if, sadly, all TROLLS are the same.

"Of" shoud be Or.

I believe I am a unique troll as I have never seen my like on this group, or
any other group either for that matter. I am not into ego, but I am into
making the group a better and more entertaining place than it would be
without me. I enhance the group. I do not detract from it. Both the old
timers and the newbies can read me and be amused. As far as I am concered,
even though we are neither of us on the subject of recumbents, this is the
best kind of posting that newsgroups are capable of. You now began to see
how valuable "good trolls" like YOU and me are!

I stay on certain threads for a reason and I stay off of other threads
equally for a reason. What I say to others is tic for tac. Be nice to me and
I will be nice back. Be ornery with me and I will be ornery back.

Am I a good troll? Yes, I believe I am. I am never angry with anyone except
for a certain criminal troll who happens to have the same first name as I
do. Anyone here can bounce things off of me and be sure of getting a
response. I do like to tweak others on occasion, but surely my essential
good nature comes through strong and bright. I play the game of newsgroup
fair and square, which is more than can be said for some others.

The greatest sin a newsgroup can be guilty of is boring everyone to death.
You and I prevent that. We should be getting a fee for our services to ARBR.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota







  
Date: 15 May 2005 18:57:42
From: nget
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

LoGo USA Wrote:
> In the 'Smoking Gun...' thread, trillingly trolleth the TROLL:
>
> >To want to talk about nothing but recumbents is the province
> >of small and stunted minds and I will not allow myself to be
> >limited like that...
>
> I agree it would be a real shame
> If all talk - unlike TROLLS? - were the same,
> But I think that most folks have a life,
> Other forums, or even a wife,
> And their 'limits' extend far beyond
> This one newsgroup, a pretty small pond.
>
> It's just fine to discuss politics,
> Eskimos, puppets, peppermint sticks,
> Minnesotans and their petty spats,
> But is ARBR the place for those chats?
> In good spirits perhaps, like grown men,
> But please try to get out now and then...
>
> When a reader peeks in on this group,
> He is saddened, or thrown for a loop,
> Or disgusted like Philbert and Bob
> If it's five percent bikes plus a glob
> Of irrelevant BULL. My two cents:
> Let's keep ARBR's main focus on 'bents.
>
> Then from this, the 'Stepped back in' thread, - OOOPS! I
> meant 'Stopped...' of course:
> Excuse me for not smiling,but Wayne doesn't need to get on his trike t
> show how low he can go.Sorry Wayne for me your a No Go

--
nget



   
Date: 15 May 2005 08:08:35
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"nget" <nget.1p2feq@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.1p2feq@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> LoGo USA Wrote:
>> In the 'Smoking Gun...' thread, trillingly trolleth the TROLL:
>>
>> >To want to talk about nothing but recumbents is the province
>> >of small and stunted minds and I will not allow myself to be
>> >limited like that...
>>
>> I agree it would be a real shame
>> If all talk - unlike TROLLS? - were the same,
>> But I think that most folks have a life,
>> Other forums, or even a wife,
>> And their 'limits' extend far beyond
>> This one newsgroup, a pretty small pond.
>>
>> It's just fine to discuss politics,
>> Eskimos, puppets, peppermint sticks,
>> Minnesotans and their petty spats,
>> But is ARBR the place for those chats?
>> In good spirits perhaps, like grown men,
>> But please try to get out now and then...
>>
>> When a reader peeks in on this group,
>> He is saddened, or thrown for a loop,
>> Or disgusted like Philbert and Bob
>> If it's five percent bikes plus a glob
>> Of irrelevant BULL. My two cents:
>> Let's keep ARBR's main focus on 'bents.
>>
>> Then from this, the 'Stepped back in' thread, - OOOPS! I
>> meant 'Stopped...' of course:
>
>> Excuse me for not smiling, but Wayne doesn't need to get on his trike to
>> show how low he can go. Sorry Wayne for me your a No Go.

Nget is right. Wayne needs to get off this excrement kick as it spoils his
otherwise excellent poetry. The great poets rarely if ever mentioned
excrement. Poetry must elevate, not throw us down into the bowels of
depression. I suggest he bring death into his verse more as that is the only
proper subject of poetry.

I am still waiting for Wayne to tell the group how he does it, i.e., write
such good poetry. We not only want to know, we need to know so we can
retaliate. If enough of us get into doing this, we could rename ourselves
ARBR-V. You could only post to this new group in verse and I would grade you
on your efforts. ARBR without the V would be strictly for all others who are
not up to the taxing exertions of writing verse.

All of my verses will be about death and the grave. Did you know that I
collect epitaphs for a hobby? Here is the best one I have ever come across
in my life. It is from a tombstone in an Ohio cemetery, ever the heart of
the Old Midwest.

"Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again."

I consider it the Universal Epitaph for all mankind. Yes, that means YOU!

And some here think I do not bring anything to the group!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota





 
Date: 13 May 2005 06:42:18
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
"Philbert" <philbertNOSPAM@voyager.net > wrote
>
> Geez, folks, I was hoping things would have settled down, but this is just
> pitiful.

It's like the weather, people complain about it, but nobody ever
does anything about it... %^)

For the newsgroup, the active way to "do something about it" is to
post and respond to more messages of the type you want to see.
The passive way is to refrain from posting and responding to
messages of the type you don't want to see. Both are important.

> Best wishes to all the helpful folk who were here (and to those who remain
> lurking).

Maybe newsgroup lurkers are like dark matter... What they do not
post affects newsgroup content (positively or negatively, POV).

Jon Meinecke

"Become the change you want to see the world." -- Gandhi








 
Date: 12 May 2005 11:38:06
From: LoGo USA
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Quoth Phil and Bob (the Seldomly Brothers?):

>[ARBR] is just pitiful... a halfway house for psychotic trolls.

Leading HHS (whose attitude I like!) to ask:

>Who gives a recumbent rat's butt what these two drive by mud
slingers think about the group?

And almost answer his own question:

>... brother a-holes [who] check out a newsgroup every year
>or so and don't like it...

To folks like Phil and Bob, an OPEN LETTER:
Do snippy snipes like those make ARBR better?
Or do they only add to its pollution?
More problems? We don't need 'em - Got Solution?

Self-government on Usenet isn't easy;
It's not like being snitty, rude or breezy.
Some people seem to think that when they're posting,
It's only ARBR's writers that they're roasting;
In fact a ton of folks (like Phil and Bobby)
Will pop in here 'cuz 'bent bikes are their hobby,
And now what they will see in all those poppings
Are Phil's and Bob's along with other droppings.

So please, before your next post here at ARBR,
Please visit your proctologist or barber
To pluck that wild hair crosswise up your anus.
Unless you ask a question, entertain us
With wit or knowledge... maybe tell a story
About that downhill crash (No, that's too gory!),
Or send ten links for touring south Kentucky,
But PLEASE(!): don't post to tell us "ARBR's yucky!"

Mostly - keep smiling!
Wayne



  
Date: 12 May 2005 16:40:18
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"LoGo USA" <wayne@logo-us.com > wrote in message
news:1115923086.447518.19780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> To folks like Phil and Bob, an OPEN LETTER:
> Do snippy snipes like those make ARBR better?
> Or do they only add to its pollution?
> More problems? We don't need 'em - Got Solution?
>
> Self-government on Usenet isn't easy;
> It's not like being snitty, rude or breezy.
> Some people seem to think that when they're posting,
> It's only ARBR's writers that they're roasting;
> In fact a ton of folks (like Phil and Bobby)
> Will pop in here 'cuz 'bent bikes are their hobby,
> And now what they will see in all those poppings
> Are Phil's and Bob's along with other droppings.
>
> So please, before your next post here at ARBR,
> Please visit your proctologist or barber
> To pluck that wild hair crosswise up your anus.
> Unless you ask a question, entertain us
> With wit or knowledge... maybe tell a story
> About that downhill crash (No, that's too gory!),
> Or send ten links for touring south Kentucky,
> But PLEASE(!): don't post to tell us "ARBR's yucky!"

Poetry this good should not be picked apart, but a few comments:

"Unless you ask a question, entertain us
> With wit or knowledge... maybe tell a story"

Newsgroups are not just about asking questions and getting answers or
exchanging subject specific knowledge.That is actually the very dullest part
of a newsgroup. But Wayne goes on to note the entertainment aspect. This is
far more important. The only thing worth reading most of the time on ARBR
are the stories that others tell about their adventures on their bikes. Here
is where personality enters into the equation. It is only the human element
that is finally interesting. We need to get rid of the idea that Q & A is
the essence of a newsgroup.

Wayne has got it right. My only purpose in being here is to furnish some wit
and knowledge and to occasionally tell a story or two. That is what Wayne
has consistently done (in verse no less) and much better than I.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota





  
Date: 12 May 2005 14:20:52
From: bent_pilot
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Bob Cardone used to be pretty funny in an off-the-wall way a few years ago
when he was a regular poster here.

Hi Bob, ever get any those jr. high school babes to let you give them a ride
on your bent? ;o)
"LoGo USA" <wayne@logo-us.com > wrote in message
news:1115923086.447518.19780@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Quoth Phil and Bob (the Seldomly Brothers?):
>
>>[ARBR] is just pitiful... a halfway house for psychotic trolls.
>
> Leading HHS (whose attitude I like!) to ask:
>
>>Who gives a recumbent rat's butt what these two drive by mud
> slingers think about the group?
>
> And almost answer his own question:
>
>>... brother a-holes [who] check out a newsgroup every year
>>or so and don't like it...
>
> To folks like Phil and Bob, an OPEN LETTER:
> Do snippy snipes like those make ARBR better?
> Or do they only add to its pollution?
> More problems? We don't need 'em - Got Solution?
>
> Self-government on Usenet isn't easy;
> It's not like being snitty, rude or breezy.
> Some people seem to think that when they're posting,
> It's only ARBR's writers that they're roasting;
> In fact a ton of folks (like Phil and Bobby)
> Will pop in here 'cuz 'bent bikes are their hobby,
> And now what they will see in all those poppings
> Are Phil's and Bob's along with other droppings.
>
> So please, before your next post here at ARBR,
> Please visit your proctologist or barber
> To pluck that wild hair crosswise up your anus.
> Unless you ask a question, entertain us
> With wit or knowledge... maybe tell a story
> About that downhill crash (No, that's too gory!),
> Or send ten links for touring south Kentucky,
> But PLEASE(!): don't post to tell us "ARBR's yucky!"
>
> Mostly - keep smiling!
> Wayne
>




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Date: 12 May 2005 06:51:32
From:
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

Edward Dolan wrote:

> It is always amusing to see the kettle calling the pot black. I know
where
> you live, you ignorant computer nerd, but no one else would recognize
your
> small burg. I explained all of this to you once before, but your mind
is
> like a sieve which retains nothing but resentment and jealousy of me.
Ever
> the small minded, small town teacher - if you only knew how you
disgust me.
> But Minnesota is full of jerks like you.

And who are you Ed? A man who hasn't had a job since the 70's, living
in mommy and daddys house, and off their money you inherited! What
have you done to benefit society? Please don't talk about sitting in
the back of the library in the 60's and early 70's (doing what?)!



> What I would like to know is when are you going to learn HOW to post.
No one
> cares to read your asinine comments when you do not even know how to
post.
> That you can be instructing pupils in how to use the computer is a
case of
> the blind leading the blind. You are taking wages under false
pretenses and
> if you had an honest bone in your body you would resign your position
and
> take a job more suited to your talents, such as guiding jerks and
nerds on
> cycling tours of Europe - which is a fine way to waste time. You will
do no
> harm doing that and will have found your true vocation in life -
spinning
> your legs in circles combating European traffic and not ever having
to put
> your brain into gear.

Things change Ed! Libraries are now Media Centers. Bottom posting to
an entire thread went out with the advent of branched news readers.
You're an old man left in the past!


>
> In the meantime, enjoy your miserable existence there in miserable
> Alexandria, Northern Minnesota the best you know how. We can't all
be from
> wonderful Southern Minnesota like me.

Anybody who has been to both the Alex-Evansvile-Fergus Falls area and
the Worthington area knows what a joke the above statemens are.



> PS. Perry B for Butler has not posted anything to this group worth
reading
> in over a year. Maybe if he would try to lose his fixation on me he
could
> get back to being a normal human being once again. I know I am Great,
but I
> am not that Great.

I will admit that my recumbent posting is on BROL and the Easy Racers
boards, however if you knew how to search, the above is not true! I
have posted worthwhile responses to ARBR. You think if someone did not
post to you it is not worthwhile.

Ed, you ARE the vandal/troll. Look at how many threads start with you
as the subject matter. Many more than start with Ed Gin. Many, many,
many, many, many, many, many more! Each of those threads are about how
you ruin this newsgroup. What part don't you get?

No wonder you're alone!

Crawl back into your closet!

Perry B

PS: I'll be back!



  
Date: 12 May 2005 15:52:28
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1115905892.537188.283050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>> It is always amusing to see the kettle calling the pot black. I know
> where
>> you live, you ignorant computer nerd, but no one else would recognize
> your
>> small burg. I explained all of this to you once before, but your mind
> is
>> like a sieve which retains nothing but resentment and jealousy of me.
> Ever
>> the small minded, small town teacher - if you only knew how you
> disgust me.
>> But Minnesota is full of jerks like you.
>
> And who are you Ed? A man who hasn't had a job since the 70's, living
> in mommy and daddys house, and off their money you inherited! What
> have you done to benefit society? Please don't talk about sitting in
> the back of the library in the 60's and early 70's (doing what?)!

Hey, if you like to work, then work. I have been able to manage my life
without having to work. Most folks envy me. The world would be better off if
most weren't working thereby making the world infinitely worse. You surely
don't think you are making a better world, do you?

>> What I would like to know is when are you going to learn HOW to post.
> No one
>> cares to read your asinine comments when you do not even know how to
> post.
>> That you can be instructing pupils in how to use the computer is a
> case of
>> the blind leading the blind. You are taking wages under false
> pretenses and
>> if you had an honest bone in your body you would resign your position
> and
>> take a job more suited to your talents, such as guiding jerks and
> nerds on
>> cycling tours of Europe - which is a fine way to waste time. You will
> do no
>> harm doing that and will have found your true vocation in life -
> spinning
>> your legs in circles combating European traffic and not ever having
> to put
>> your brain into gear.
>
> Things change Ed! Libraries are now Media Centers. Bottom posting to
> an entire thread went out with the advent of branched news readers.
> You're an old man left in the past!

Either top post or get lost, you dumbbell!

>> In the meantime, enjoy your miserable existence there in miserable
>> Alexandria, Northern Minnesota the best you know how. We can't all
> be from
>> wonderful Southern Minnesota like me.
>
> Anybody who has been to both the Alex-Evansvile-Fergus Falls area and
> the Worthington area knows what a joke the above statemens are.

All of MInnesota is a miserable place to live. It is OK to visit here in the
summer time, but the rest of the year it is place fit only for idiots.
Anyone with any brains would be living in a more equable climate. Ever hear
of Mississippi? We are living at the wrong end of the river.

>> PS. Perry B for Butler has not posted anything to this group worth
> reading
>> in over a year. Maybe if he would try to lose his fixation on me he
> could
>> get back to being a normal human being once again. I know I am Great,
> but I
>> am not that Great.
>
> I will admit that my recumbent posting is on BROL and the Easy Racers
> boards, however if you knew how to search, the above is not true! I
> have posted worthwhile responses to ARBR. You think if someone did not
> post to you it is not worthwhile.

No, I have been reading most of the messages here on ARBR for the past
several years and you stopped posting anything worth reading long ago, in
fact, ever since you discovered me. I say get over it. I know I am Great,
but I am not that Great.

See the recent threads on pedal steer to see what I am capable of when it
comes to a recumbent specific subject.

> Ed, you ARE the vandal/troll. Look at how many threads start with you
> as the subject matter. Many more than start with Ed Gin. Many, many,
> many, many, many, many, many more! Each of those threads are about how
> you ruin this newsgroup. What part don't you get?

Perry, you are not able to make discriminations. What I do and what Gin does
is the difference between night and day. I am a good troll who loves to
tweak the group. Gin is a criminal troll who commits every violation of
newsgroup posting. It amazes me that you cannot make the most elementary
discriminations.

I am the resident expert on housekeeping on ARBR. That is my karma and seems
to have become my mission. I think it must be a holdover from my days as a
librarian. Librarians are essentially housekeepers. Housekeeping is what
turns a collection of books into a library. Housekeeping is what makes ARBR
more intelligent than it would otherwise be. I wonder what your mission is
on ARBR besides bugging me?

Jon Meinecke is another housekeeper I have noted. It is a shame we do not
get along better as I think we have a lot in common. Apparently, chemistry
is everything in human relations.

> No wonder you're alone!

Jeez! I have already told you that I LIKE to be alone. I am never lonely,
unlike most who are never alone. Life is 90% mental and only 10% physical.
Try to cultivate some of the intellectual virtues and you will see what I
mean.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota









   
Date: 12 May 2005 17:50:54
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:E96dneZ4ScaIXx7fRVn-oA@prairiewave.com...
>
> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1115905892.537188.283050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
[...]
>> Things change Ed! Libraries are now Media Centers. Bottom posting to
>> an entire thread went out with the advent of branched news readers.
>> You're an old man left in the past!
>
> Either top post or get lost, you dumbbell!

That should be bottom post of course, but the rest of the statement stands.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




 
Date: 11 May 2005 20:37:32
From: LoGo USA
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
I'm sad to hear that Phil's unhappy,
That ARBR leaves him feeling crappy.

A TROLL, like some malignant tumor,
Can eat away one's sense of humor,
But flippant rhyme, like radiation,
May slow or stop the degradation.
If TROLLS have made you slowly sicken,
You may get well by simply clickin':

http://www.logo-us.com/pow/boers.htm

If you desire, but feel too leery,
To click the link, please don't get teary.
Send me an email as your passkey,
And I'll reply in simple ASCII.

Regards,
Wayne
Email: wayne@logo-us.com



  
Date: 12 May 2005 16:49:38
From: nget
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

LoGo USA Wrote:
> I'm sad to hear that Phil's unhappy,
> That ARBR leaves him feeling crappy.
>
> A TROLL, like some malignant tumor,
> Can eat away one's sense of humor,
> But flippant rhyme, like radiation,
> May slow or stop the degradation.
> If TROLLS have made you slowly sicken,
> You may get well by simply clickin':
>
> http://www.logo-us.com/pow/boers.htm
>
> If you desire, but feel too leery,
> To click the link, please don't get teary.
> Send me an email as your passkey,
> And I'll reply in simple ASCII.
>
> Regards,
> Wayne
> Email: wayne@logo-us.com
Just one question for you Wayne.Does your Wife know you're on th
internet reciting poetry to a group of eldely men

--
nget



   
Date: 12 May 2005 10:58:34
From: Bob Cordone
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
What a shame, it's been a couple of years since I visited this group,
to see what it has become. This used to be a place where you could
learn about cycling and recumbent's, now it appears that it has
morphed into a halfway house for psychotic trolls..

Oh well, check back in 2007


Ciao










On Thu, 12 May 2005 16:49:38 +1000, nget
<nget.1owpnb@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:

>
>LoGo USA Wrote:
>> I'm sad to hear that Phil's unhappy,
>> That ARBR leaves him feeling crappy.
>>
>> A TROLL, like some malignant tumor,
>> Can eat away one's sense of humor,
>> But flippant rhyme, like radiation,
>> May slow or stop the degradation.
>> If TROLLS have made you slowly sicken,
>> You may get well by simply clickin':
>>
>> http://www.logo-us.com/pow/boers.htm
>>
>> If you desire, but feel too leery,
>> To click the link, please don't get teary.
>> Send me an email as your passkey,
>> And I'll reply in simple ASCII.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Wayne
>> Email: wayne@logo-us.com
>Just one question for you Wayne.Does your Wife know you're on the
>internet reciting poetry to a group of eldely men?



    
Date: 12 May 2005 10:18:42
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Hey bobsk8, put your skates back on asshole

"Bob Cordone" <nospam@mindspring.com > wrote in message
news:vid68157v8sc4rjh7kbts63aob572i53of@4ax.com...
> What a shame, it's been a couple of years since I visited this group,
> to see what it has become. This used to be a place where you could
> learn about cycling and recumbent's, now it appears that it has
> morphed into a halfway house for psychotic trolls..
>
> Oh well, check back in 2007
>
>
> Ciao
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 16:49:38 +1000, nget
> <nget.1owpnb@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >LoGo USA Wrote:
> >> I'm sad to hear that Phil's unhappy,
> >> That ARBR leaves him feeling crappy.
> >>
> >> A TROLL, like some malignant tumor,
> >> Can eat away one's sense of humor,
> >> But flippant rhyme, like radiation,
> >> May slow or stop the degradation.
> >> If TROLLS have made you slowly sicken,
> >> You may get well by simply clickin':
> >>
> >> http://www.logo-us.com/pow/boers.htm
> >>
> >> If you desire, but feel too leery,
> >> To click the link, please don't get teary.
> >> Send me an email as your passkey,
> >> And I'll reply in simple ASCII.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Wayne
> >> Email: wayne@logo-us.com
> >Just one question for you Wayne.Does your Wife know you're on the
> >internet reciting poetry to a group of eldely men?
>




     
Date: 12 May 2005 13:24:01
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Bill" <billy@sbilly.net > wrote in message
news:79742$428345d9$944ef20a$20173@STARBAND.NET...
> Hey bobsk8, put your skates back on asshole
>
> "Bob Cordone" <nospam@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:vid68157v8sc4rjh7kbts63aob572i53of@4ax.com...
>> What a shame, it's been a couple of years since I visited this group,
>> to see what it has become. This used to be a place where you could
>> learn about cycling and recumbent's, now it appears that it has
>> morphed into a halfway house for psychotic trolls..
>>
>> Oh well, check back in 2007
>>
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>>
>>


You know I was thinking this Cardone and Philbert guy do seem a bit like
brother a-holes. I mean if you check out a newsgroup every year or so and
don't like it then that's fine. Do whatever, but lose the old drama queen
stuff. Who gives a recumbent rat's butt what these two drive by mud
slingers think about the group?




      
Date: 12 May 2005 16:12:02
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"HHS" <hhs@lifeisgrand.com > wrote in message
news:S9KdnfkurKCkAh7fRVn-tw@giganews.com...
>
> "Bill" <billy@sbilly.net> wrote in message
> news:79742$428345d9$944ef20a$20173@STARBAND.NET...
>> Hey bobsk8, put your skates back on asshole
>>
>> "Bob Cordone" <nospam@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:vid68157v8sc4rjh7kbts63aob572i53of@4ax.com...
>>> What a shame, it's been a couple of years since I visited this group,
>>> to see what it has become. This used to be a place where you could
>>> learn about cycling and recumbent's, now it appears that it has
>>> morphed into a halfway house for psychotic trolls..
>>>
>>> Oh well, check back in 2007
>>>
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> You know I was thinking this Cardone and Philbert guy do seem a bit like
> brother a-holes. I mean if you check out a newsgroup every year or so and
> don't like it then that's fine. Do whatever, but lose the old drama queen
> stuff. Who gives a recumbent rat's butt what these two drive by mud
> slingers think about the group?

Right you are HHS! Maybe if they would contribute something themselves to
the group instead of making inane comments which go nowhere, we could have a
better group. But they are takers, not givers. ARBR has always been plagued
by these types. If you do not like the group the way it is, then post
something that you think will be of interest and enjoyment to others. That
is how easy it is to improve things.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




 
Date: 11 May 2005 15:50:26
From:
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Ed,

You just don't get it!

YOU ARE THE VANDAL!

How may people have to tell you that you are the problem on ARBR! I
guess you're too stupid to get it!

You're so dumb you don't even remember where I live! Intelligent
people have memory!

Perry B


Edward Dolan wrote:
> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1115843066.389475.306780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Ed,
> >
> > It didn't work! You're still here!
> >
> > You're the vandal!
> >
> > You lied again! You're back!
> >
> > Perry B
>
> Still top posting I see.
>
> Poor Perry! All he knows how to do these days is to call others liars
with
> no context whatsoever. However, I think he may be referring to my
leave
> taking awhile back, but surely no one expected me to stay away from
the
> group for very long. I have responsibilities to the group which weigh

> heavily on me - and I never shirk a duty.
>
> Did Perry speak up when the criminal vandal troll was here wrecking
ARBR? I
> don't think so! He was hunkered down in miserable Alexandria,
Minnesota. But
> Northerners are like that. They are never around when needed and
always
> around when not needed.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota



  
Date: 11 May 2005 19:12:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1115851826.888134.122930@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Ed,
>
> You just don't get it!
>
> YOU ARE THE VANDAL!
>
> How may people have to tell you that you are the problem on ARBR! I
> guess you're too stupid to get it!
>
> You're so dumb you don't even remember where I live! Intelligent
> people have memory!
>
> Perry B

It is always amusing to see the kettle calling the pot black. I know where
you live, you ignorant computer nerd, but no one else would recognize your
small burg. I explained all of this to you once before, but your mind is
like a sieve which retains nothing but resentment and jealousy of me. Ever
the small minded, small town teacher - if you only knew how you disgust me.
But Minnesota is full of jerks like you.

What I would like to know is when are you going to learn HOW to post. No one
cares to read your asinine comments when you do not even know how to post.
That you can be instructing pupils in how to use the computer is a case of
the blind leading the blind. You are taking wages under false pretenses and
if you had an honest bone in your body you would resign your position and
take a job more suited to your talents, such as guiding jerks and nerds on
cycling tours of Europe - which is a fine way to waste time. You will do no
harm doing that and will have found your true vocation in life - spinning
your legs in circles combating European traffic and not ever having to put
your brain into gear.

In the meantime, enjoy your miserable existence there in miserable
Alexandria, Northern Minnesota the best you know how. We can't all be from
wonderful Southern Minnesota like me.

Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota

PS. Perry B for Butler has not posted anything to this group worth reading
in over a year. Maybe if he would try to lose his fixation on me he could
get back to being a normal human being once again. I know I am Great, but I
am not that Great.



> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115843066.389475.306780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Ed,
>> >
>> > It didn't work! You're still here!
>> >
>> > You're the vandal!
>> >
>> > You lied again! You're back!
>> >
>> > Perry B
>>
>> Still top posting I see.
>>
>> Poor Perry! All he knows how to do these days is to call others liars
> with
>> no context whatsoever. However, I think he may be referring to my
> leave
>> taking awhile back, but surely no one expected me to stay away from
> the
>> group for very long. I have responsibilities to the group which weigh
>
>> heavily on me - and I never shirk a duty.
>>
>> Did Perry speak up when the criminal vandal troll was here wrecking
> ARBR? I
>> don't think so! He was hunkered down in miserable Alexandria,
> Minnesota. But
>> Northerners are like that. They are never around when needed and
> always
>> around when not needed.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota







  
Date: 11 May 2005 18:39:28
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1115851826.888134.122930@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Ed,
>
> You just don't get it!
>
> YOU ARE THE VANDAL!
>
> How may people have to tell you that you are the problem on ARBR! I
> guess you're too stupid to get it!
>
> You're so dumb you don't even remember where I live! Intelligent
> people have memory!
>
> Perry B
>
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> <perryb67@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1115843066.389475.306780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > Ed,
>> >
>> > It didn't work! You're still here!
>> >
>> > You're the vandal!
>> >
>> > You lied again! You're back!
>> >
>> > Perry B
>>
>> Still top posting I see.
>>
>> Poor Perry! All he knows how to do these days is to call others liars
> with
>> no context whatsoever. However, I think he may be referring to my
> leave
>> taking awhile back, but surely no one expected me to stay away from
> the
>> group for very long. I have responsibilities to the group which weigh
>
>> heavily on me - and I never shirk a duty.
>>
>> Did Perry speak up when the criminal vandal troll was here wrecking
> ARBR? I
>> don't think so! He was hunkered down in miserable Alexandria,
> Minnesota. But
>> Northerners are like that. They are never around when needed and
> always
>> around when not needed.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota
>

Now you boys take a time out, go sit in the corner, and don't say anything
or get up until I say you can.




   
Date: 11 May 2005 19:33:03
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"HHS" <hhs@lifeisgrand.com > wrote in message
news:-pOdnZDiLd83Ch_fRVn-oQ@giganews.com...
[...]

Edward Dolan wrote:

>>> Did Perry speak up when the criminal vandal troll was here wrecking
>> ARBR? I
>>> don't think so! He was hunkered down in miserable Alexandria,
>> Minnesota. But
>>> Northerners are like that. They are never around when needed and
>> always
>>> around when not needed.
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota
>>
>
> Now you boys take a time out, go sit in the corner, and don't say anything
> or get up until I say you can.

Poor Perry thinks Alexandria, Minnesota is some kind of paradise whereas I
know it is the pits. It is just like Worthington, Minnesota - only worse. It
is better to be an honest working town than a run down resort town living
off a few lakes. But that is northern Minnesota for you - ever ready to take
the suckers to the cleaners.

All Perry has known how to do for the past year is to call me dumb and a
liar - when he knows of course that I am brilliant and penetratingly
truthful. I can only attribute this phenomenon to his jealousy of me. Yes,
we are both from Minnesota and so we understand one another perfectly. He
knows my type and I know his type and never the twain shall meet.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




    
Date: 11 May 2005 20:48:56
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
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>
> "HHS" <hhs@lifeisgrand.com> wrote in message
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> [...]
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>>>> Did Perry speak up when the criminal vandal troll was here wrecking
>>> ARBR? I
>>>> don't think so! He was hunkered down in miserable Alexandria,
>>> Minnesota. But
>>>> Northerners are like that. They are never around when needed and
>>> always
>>>> around when not needed.
>>>>
>>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota
>>>
>>
>> Now you boys take a time out, go sit in the corner, and don't say
>> anything or get up until I say you can.
>
> Poor Perry thinks Alexandria, Minnesota is some kind of paradise whereas I
> know it is the pits. It is just like Worthington, Minnesota - only worse.
> It is better to be an honest working town than a run down resort town
> living off a few lakes. But that is northern Minnesota for you - ever
> ready to take the suckers to the cleaners.
>
> All Perry has known how to do for the past year is to call me dumb and a
> liar - when he knows of course that I am brilliant and penetratingly
> truthful. I can only attribute this phenomenon to his jealousy of me. Yes,
> we are both from Minnesota and so we understand one another perfectly. He
> knows my type and I know his type and never the twain shall meet.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>

Ed Dolan you are bordering on incorrigibility. Get up and go to the
principal's office right now.




 
Date: 11 May 2005 13:24:26
From:
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Ed,

It didn't work! You're still here!

You're the vandal!

You lied again! You're back!

Perry B


Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Philbert" <philbertNOSPAM@voyager.net> wrote in message
> news:1182o9m26r59m40@corp.supernews.com...
> > Geez, folks, I was hoping things would have settled down, but this
is just
> > pitiful. Some here are looking forward to some heavy-duty bad
karma.
> >
> > May be this group should be called
"alt.rec.pompous.egomaniac.cyclists".
> > That's about what's left here.
> >
> > Best wishes to all the helpful folk who were here (and to those who
remain
> > lurking). To the rest, well, remember that time wounds all
heels...
>
> All it takes to ruin a newsgroup is one vandal, most especially when
no one
> will stand up and defend the group. However, that appears to be
changing
> somewhat as a few others have decided to speak up about the recent
outrages.
> It may be that ARBR can recover. Let us hope so as it was not really
such a
> bad group. Most of us here are elderly men and it is passing strange
when
> some few (Monkey Islanders) act like unruly teenagers and spoil it
for all.
>
> It should be noted that there was never a peep out of Philbert when
the war
> was raging as far as I can recall. Maybe if others would contribute
more
> instead of constantly taking the group would not fall on such hard
times.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota



  
Date: 11 May 2005 16:53:12
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

<perryb67@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1115843066.389475.306780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ed,
>
> It didn't work! You're still here!
>
> You're the vandal!
>
> You lied again! You're back!
>
> Perry B

Still top posting I see.

Poor Perry! All he knows how to do these days is to call others liars with
no context whatsoever. However, I think he may be referring to my leave
taking awhile back, but surely no one expected me to stay away from the
group for very long. I have responsibilities to the group which weigh
heavily on me - and I never shirk a duty.

Did Perry speak up when the criminal vandal troll was here wrecking ARBR? I
don't think so! He was hunkered down in miserable Alexandria, Minnesota. But
Northerners are like that. They are never around when needed and always
around when not needed.

Ed Dolan the Great - Southern Minnesota




 
Date: 11 May 2005 10:38:45
From:
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye
Philbert,

Disregard this agglomerate of simian sociopaths and their maniacal
Monkey Island madness. They are a putrid endemic breed unto themselves
who dewll in a mythical micrcosm of twisted reality. Hang in there.
These things tend to run their course in time. This too shall pass.

Jim

Philbert wrote:
> Geez, folks, I was hoping things would have settled down, but this is
just
> pitiful. Some here are looking forward to some heavy-duty bad karma.
>
> May be this group should be called
"alt.rec.pompous.egomaniac.cyclists".
> That's about what's left here.
>
> Best wishes to all the helpful folk who were here (and to those who
remain
> lurking). To the rest, well, remember that time wounds all heels...



 
Date: 10 May 2005 23:37:50
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Philbert" <philbertNOSPAM@voyager.net > wrote in message
news:1182o9m26r59m40@corp.supernews.com...
> Geez, folks, I was hoping things would have settled down, but this is just
> pitiful. Some here are looking forward to some heavy-duty bad karma.
>
> May be this group should be called "alt.rec.pompous.egomaniac.cyclists".
> That's about what's left here.
>
> Best wishes to all the helpful folk who were here (and to those who remain
> lurking). To the rest, well, remember that time wounds all heels...

All it takes to ruin a newsgroup is one vandal, most especially when no one
will stand up and defend the group. However, that appears to be changing
somewhat as a few others have decided to speak up about the recent outrages.
It may be that ARBR can recover. Let us hope so as it was not really such a
bad group. Most of us here are elderly men and it is passing strange when
some few (Monkey Islanders) act like unruly teenagers and spoil it for all.

It should be noted that there was never a peep out of Philbert when the war
was raging as far as I can recall. Maybe if others would contribute more
instead of constantly taking the group would not fall on such hard times.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota




  
Date: 11 May 2005 02:21:34
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:_ZidnayWkPyxERzfRVn-ow@prairiewave.com...
>
> All it takes to ruin a newsgroup is one vandal, most especially when no
one
> will stand up and defend the group. However, that appears to be changing
> somewhat as a few others have decided to speak up about the recent
outrages.
> It may be that ARBR can recover.

It didn't work, your still here





   
Date: 11 May 2005 06:12:38
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Stopped back in - It's worse than before. 'Bye

"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:_ZidnayWkPyxERzfRVn-ow@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> All it takes to ruin a newsgroup is one vandal, most especially when no
> one
>> will stand up and defend the group. However, that appears to be changing
>> somewhat as a few others have decided to speak up about the recent
> outrages.
>> It may be that ARBR can recover.
>
> It didn't work, your still here

The comma is appreciated even though a period is clearly beyond you.

Leuck is not as bad as I have made him out to be as he has recently acquired
some backbone and is willing and able to take on a certain vandal criminal
troll. No, that is not me. I am a good troll and enhance the group. I do not
destroy it. I wonder if the day will ever come when this group is able to
make some distinctions among trolls.

Mazzoleni, like me, was another good troll. We were well mannered and stayed
on the appropriate threads. We did not use sock puppets and forge other's
names to our posts. We were open and above board and responsive to what
others were saying. We were not vandals and did not destroy threads for no
reason. Most importantly, unlike a certain vandal criminal troll, we do not
go about destroying newsgroups for the fun of it.

I think I am going to write a little essay about trolls and their proper
place on a newsgroup. Everybody stay tuned.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota