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Date: 19 Jul 2006 10:59:56
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Hi:
I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.)
Some time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use
to grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike
up and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 14:25:41
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Ken Bradley TOP POSTED:
> There is no way to carry a SWB upstair neatly, when there are people
> around! If you don't have to ride off, when you get up stairs, find a place
> to leave it downstair. I once got an extra key to the janitor's room,
> problem solved.
After getting speared once or twice with the large chainring, they
should learn to stay out of your way, i.e. negative reinforcement.
--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 23:16:45
From: Zebee Johnstone
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on 23 Sep 2006 14:25:41 -0700
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Ken Bradley TOP POSTED:
>> There is no way to carry a SWB upstair neatly, when there are people
>> around! If you don't have to ride off, when you get up stairs, find a place
>> to leave it downstair. I once got an extra key to the janitor's room,
>> problem solved.
>
> After getting speared once or twice with the large chainring, they
> should learn to stay out of your way, i.e. negative reinforcement.
>
Yeah, but cleaning the flesh off the ring is annoying, and if you
leave it on too long it smells.
Zebee
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Date: 05 Aug 2006 09:26:12
From:
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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I have horsed my V-Rex up and down my basement stairs many times and if
I had do do it again, I think I would take the seat off and just carry
the bike rather than trying to find a way to roll it. Without a seat
the old DF trick of locking the rear brake and rolling the bike
vertical on the back tire, then modulating the brake as you ascend or
descend, might make up for the extra labor and extra trip to fetch and
attach/unattach the seat.
Freewheeling wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Freewheeling wrote:
> >> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> >>> Freewheeling wrote:
> >>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> >>>>> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
> >>>>> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
> >>>>> difficult and damned annoying.
> >>>> In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
> >>>> some other form of exercise.
> >>>>> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
> >>>> I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
> >>>> like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
> >>>> Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
> >>>> a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman....
> >>> Nope - no slings for me.
> >>>
> >>> I suggest grabbing the V-Rex at the little piece of head tube just
> >>> above the main tube. Lift the bike and position your arm so your elbow
> >>> is at your side and your forearm is approximately vertical. Walk up and
> >>> down the stairs carrying the bike (the rear wheel may drag depending on
> >>> your height and arm length. This method has the advantage of not
> >>> ramming the cranks and/or chainrings into doorways and/or walls.
> >>>
> >>> I have not tried this on a RANS V-Rex, but it works for me climbing
> >>> four (4) flights of stairs with a RANS Rocket.
> >>>
> >> If it works on the standard Rocket it ought to work on the Standard
> >> VREX. Mine isn't exactly standard, but the priy change is the
> >> drivetrain (Rholoff) and the fact that I got rid of that hinged riser
> >> system and have something more like the Bachetta.
> >
> > A fixed riser should make things easier, as one could grip the round
> > cross-section head tube stub and riser shaft, rather than having to
> > hold onto the irregular shaped "Flip-It" base. However, the rear wheel
> > on the V-Rex will likely drag unless the rider is somewhat taller than
> > average.
> >
> It also puts all the weight on an arthritic elbow, which just won't
> work. I tried it. I still need to create a shoulder strap of some sort
> so that lifting and holding is done with the legs and trunk rather than
> arm and elbow.
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Date: 07 Aug 2006 20:35:52
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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aitches_2@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have horsed my V-Rex up and down my basement stairs many times and if
> I had do do it again, I think I would take the seat off and just carry
> the bike rather than trying to find a way to roll it. Without a seat
> the old DF trick of locking the rear brake and rolling the bike
> vertical on the back tire, then modulating the brake as you ascend or
> descend, might make up for the extra labor and extra trip to fetch and
> attach/unattach the seat.
aitches:
Thanks for trying. Taking the seat on and off, while it would
undoubtedly make traversing the stairs much easier, just isn't a
practical solution for frequent use. I still think the best solution is
some sort of sling over the shoulder that allows one to use one's back
and legs to lift the bike high enough to clear the stairs. I'll be
trying some stuff out over the next few weeks.
> Freewheeling wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Freewheeling wrote:
>>>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>>>> Freewheeling wrote:
>>>>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>>>>>> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
>>>>>>> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
>>>>>>> difficult and damned annoying.
>>>>>> In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
>>>>>> some other form of exercise.
>>>>>>> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>>>>>> I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
>>>>>> like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
>>>>>> Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
>>>>>> a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman....
>>>>> Nope - no slings for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest grabbing the V-Rex at the little piece of head tube just
>>>>> above the main tube. Lift the bike and position your arm so your elbow
>>>>> is at your side and your forearm is approximately vertical. Walk up and
>>>>> down the stairs carrying the bike (the rear wheel may drag depending on
>>>>> your height and arm length. This method has the advantage of not
>>>>> ramming the cranks and/or chainrings into doorways and/or walls.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not tried this on a RANS V-Rex, but it works for me climbing
>>>>> four (4) flights of stairs with a RANS Rocket.
>>>>>
>>>> If it works on the standard Rocket it ought to work on the Standard
>>>> VREX. Mine isn't exactly standard, but the priy change is the
>>>> drivetrain (Rholoff) and the fact that I got rid of that hinged riser
>>>> system and have something more like the Bachetta.
>>> A fixed riser should make things easier, as one could grip the round
>>> cross-section head tube stub and riser shaft, rather than having to
>>> hold onto the irregular shaped "Flip-It" base. However, the rear wheel
>>> on the V-Rex will likely drag unless the rider is somewhat taller than
>>> average.
>>>
>> It also puts all the weight on an arthritic elbow, which just won't
>> work. I tried it. I still need to create a shoulder strap of some sort
>> so that lifting and holding is done with the legs and trunk rather than
>> arm and elbow.
>
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Date: 09 Aug 2006 23:11:48
From: Tim Olson
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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In article <4jq4iuF97l5iU1@individual.net >,
Freewheeling <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote:
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Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:59:06
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Freewheeling wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Freewheeling wrote:
> >> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> >>> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
> >>> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
> >>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
> >>>>
> >>> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
> >>> difficult and damned annoying.
> >> In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
> >> some other form of exercise.
> >>> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
> >> I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
> >> like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
> >> Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
> >> a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman....
> >
> > Nope - no slings for me.
> >
> > I suggest grabbing the V-Rex at the little piece of head tube just
> > above the main tube. Lift the bike and position your arm so your elbow
> > is at your side and your forearm is approximately vertical. Walk up and
> > down the stairs carrying the bike (the rear wheel may drag depending on
> > your height and arm length. This method has the advantage of not
> > ramming the cranks and/or chainrings into doorways and/or walls.
> >
> > I have not tried this on a RANS V-Rex, but it works for me climbing
> > four (4) flights of stairs with a RANS Rocket.
> >
> If it works on the standard Rocket it ought to work on the Standard
> VREX. Mine isn't exactly standard, but the priy change is the
> drivetrain (Rholoff) and the fact that I got rid of that hinged riser
> system and have something more like the Bachetta.
A fixed riser should make things easier, as one could grip the round
cross-section head tube stub and riser shaft, rather than having to
hold onto the irregular shaped "Flip-It" base. However, the rear wheel
on the V-Rex will likely drag unless the rider is somewhat taller than
average.
--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Post Free or Die!
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 09:34:10
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Freewheeling wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>> Freewheeling wrote:
>>>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>>>> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
>>>>> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>>>>>
>>>>> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
>>>>> difficult and damned annoying.
>>>> In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
>>>> some other form of exercise.
>>>>> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>>>> I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
>>>> like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
>>>> Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
>>>> a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman....
>>> Nope - no slings for me.
>>>
>>> I suggest grabbing the V-Rex at the little piece of head tube just
>>> above the main tube. Lift the bike and position your arm so your elbow
>>> is at your side and your forearm is approximately vertical. Walk up and
>>> down the stairs carrying the bike (the rear wheel may drag depending on
>>> your height and arm length. This method has the advantage of not
>>> ramming the cranks and/or chainrings into doorways and/or walls.
>>>
>>> I have not tried this on a RANS V-Rex, but it works for me climbing
>>> four (4) flights of stairs with a RANS Rocket.
>>>
>> If it works on the standard Rocket it ought to work on the Standard
>> VREX. Mine isn't exactly standard, but the priy change is the
>> drivetrain (Rholoff) and the fact that I got rid of that hinged riser
>> system and have something more like the Bachetta.
>
> A fixed riser should make things easier, as one could grip the round
> cross-section head tube stub and riser shaft, rather than having to
> hold onto the irregular shaped "Flip-It" base. However, the rear wheel
> on the V-Rex will likely drag unless the rider is somewhat taller than
> average.
>
It also puts all the weight on an arthritic elbow, which just won't
work. I tried it. I still need to create a shoulder strap of some sort
so that lifting and holding is done with the legs and trunk rather than
arm and elbow.
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Date: 29 Jul 2006 18:11:05
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Mr. Ed Dolan wrote:
>
> I am not sure who this Freewheeling is. There was such a person here some
> time ago who used that name. I think his real name was Scott and he was a
> political science professor at some college on the East Coast, but then
> there was another person here from Arizona or California I think whose name
> was also Scott....
Yo Eddie Boy,
Since you are too lazy to DAGS [1], see
<http://demosophia.mu.nu/archives/169846.php >.
[1] Do A Google Search
--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Post Free or Die!
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Date: 31 Jul 2006 14:15:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1154221865.097193.104630@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mr. Ed Dolan wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure who this Freewheeling is. There was such a person here some
>> time ago who used that name. I think his real name was Scott and he was a
>> political science professor at some college on the East Coast, but then
>> there was another person here from Arizona or California I think whose
>> name
>> was also Scott....
>
> Yo Eddie Boy,
>
> Since you are too lazy to DAGS [1], see
> <http://demosophia.mu.nu/archives/169846.php>.
>
> [1] Do A Google Search
As you well know I will never look up anything regarding a newsgroup. I
can't think of a greater waste of time since newsgroups are strictly for
idiots, morons and jerks. If everyone would use their real names like you
and I do, all this confusion would not exist in the first place. If someone
wants to tell me who they are that is fine; if they don't, they can go to
Hell!
Now that you (Tom Sherman) are back I hope we can expect this newsgroup,
otherwise known as ARBR, to improve somewhat. It reached the nadir of its
existence when you were not here to provide useful information to the
newbies and also to keep us regulars informed on the lore and traditions of
ARBR.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 29 Jul 2006 17:48:38
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Freewheeling wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> > In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
> > sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
> >> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
> >>
> >
> > down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
> > difficult and damned annoying.
> In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
> some other form of exercise.
> >
> > If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>
> I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
> like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
> Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
> a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman....
Nope - no slings for me.
I suggest grabbing the V-Rex at the little piece of head tube just
above the main tube. Lift the bike and position your arm so your elbow
is at your side and your forearm is approximately vertical. Walk up and
down the stairs carrying the bike (the rear wheel may drag depending on
your height and arm length. This method has the advantage of not
ramming the cranks and/or chainrings into doorways and/or walls.
I have not tried this on a RANS V-Rex, but it works for me climbing
four (4) flights of stairs with a RANS Rocket.
--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Post Free or Die!
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Date: 31 Jul 2006 14:12:03
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Freewheeling wrote:
>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
>>> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>>>
>>> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
>>> difficult and damned annoying.
>> In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
>> some other form of exercise.
>>> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>> I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
>> like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
>> Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
>> a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman....
>
> Nope - no slings for me.
>
> I suggest grabbing the V-Rex at the little piece of head tube just
> above the main tube. Lift the bike and position your arm so your elbow
> is at your side and your forearm is approximately vertical. Walk up and
> down the stairs carrying the bike (the rear wheel may drag depending on
> your height and arm length. This method has the advantage of not
> ramming the cranks and/or chainrings into doorways and/or walls.
>
> I have not tried this on a RANS V-Rex, but it works for me climbing
> four (4) flights of stairs with a RANS Rocket.
>
If it works on the standard Rocket it ought to work on the Standard
VREX. Mine isn't exactly standard, but the priy change is the
drivetrain (Rholoff) and the fact that I got rid of that hinged riser
system and have something more like the Bachetta.
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Date: 21 Jul 2006 16:13:36
From: nyobiz@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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> > Possibly rig up something on an old ski that would allow you to easily
> > secure the wheels to it? And/or a hand winch on some sort of homemade
> > portable stand (e.g. that you could hold it in place by standing on).
> >
> If I'm going to the trouble of rigging a winch, it'll have to be
> electrically powered. Pixie dust, maybe?
Pixie dust? You have some??!!
But seriously, you could power a winch with a cordless electric drill
(worm drive setup).
-ny
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Date: 22 Jul 2006 13:50:11
From: nget
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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nyobiz@gmail.com Wrote:
>
> > > Possibly rig up something on an old ski that would allow you t
> easily
> > > secure the wheels to it? And/or a hand winch on some sort o
> homemade
> > > portable stand (e.g. that you could hold it in place by standin
> on).
> > >
> > If I'm going to the trouble of rigging a winch, it'll have to be
> > electrically powered. Pixie dust, maybe?
>
> Pixie dust? You have some??!!
> But seriously, you could power a winch with a cordless electric drill
> (worm drive setup).
>
> -ny
The rans V-rex is all of 30 pounds. It shouldn't be that big of
problem to find a big strong man to carry that bike up the stairs
Payment of course for such things has always been made in pixie dust
--
nget
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Date: 24 Jul 2006 13:23:29
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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nget wrote:
> nyobiz@gmail.com Wrote:
>>>> Possibly rig up something on an old ski that would allow you to
>> easily
>>>> secure the wheels to it? And/or a hand winch on some sort of
>> homemade
>>>> portable stand (e.g. that you could hold it in place by standing
>> on).
>>> If I'm going to the trouble of rigging a winch, it'll have to be
>>> electrically powered. Pixie dust, maybe?
>> Pixie dust? You have some??!!
>> But seriously, you could power a winch with a cordless electric drill
>> (worm drive setup).
>>
>> -ny
> The rans V-rex is all of 30 pounds. It shouldn't be that big of a
> problem to find a big strong man to carry that bike up the stairs.
> Payment of course for such things has always been made in pixie dust.
>
>
God, this newsgroup has really gone downhill. There was a time when a
question like this would have elicited a host of thoughtful and
engineering-savvy responses. Guess it's time to reactivate my
subscription to hpvlist. Sorry I bothered you guys with it.
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 07:06:41
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote in message
news:4ike0aF47uqjU1@individual.net...
[...]
> God, this newsgroup has really gone downhill. There was a time when a
> question like this would have elicited a host of thoughtful and
> engineering-savvy responses. Guess it's time to reactivate my
> subscription to hpvlist. Sorry I bothered you guys with it.
The group has been going downhill like forever, but it has really descended
to the depths ever since Tom Sherman left. But the group was never as good
as you imagined it to be. It always had lots of dopes, screwballs and other
assorted nuts.
I never liked the HPV list - way too dull for me. Yes, it is all business
(because it is moderated), but it is the kind of business that rots the
brain. No thanks!
Abandon all sensitivities ye who enter ARBR. If you want gentle, solicitous
treatment get thee to the BROL board where all scoundrels and knaves are
forbidden. There you will find only dead souls slumbering away in a kind of
eternal rest.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 24 Jul 2006 15:44:55
From: Roger Houston
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote in message
news:4ike0aF47uqjU1@individual.net...
>>
> God, this newsgroup has really gone downhill. There was a time when a
> question like this would have elicited a host of thoughtful and
> engineering-savvy responses. Guess it's time to reactivate my
> subscription to hpvlist. Sorry I bothered you guys with it.
Subscription, huh?
I suppose you want all your money refunded for the unread posts.
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 17:52:05
From: Joao
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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I live on a third-floor apartment of an old brownstone building with
very narrow stairs. I have to negotiate 6 90-degree turns as well as a
self-closing gate a two sets of locked self-closing glass doors, plus
the main door of the apartment. Took me a while, but nowadays I have no
problem carrying any of my bikes (track bike, highracer, and LWB with
fairing) up or down. It just takes practice.
The only advices I can give you are; always have the bike on the inside
of the turns, meaning if its a left turn, you stand on the right of the
bike holding it up with your left hand. This will keep it from hitting
the walls. And also lift the bike high enough to clear the handrails,
so you can make even tighter turns. And depending on how much head
clearance you have, you might need to tilt the bike in the direction of
the stairs to keep from hitting the ceiling.
With my faired LWB bike, I also learned that it is a LOT easier to carry
it into the building and up the stairs by having the bike facing backwards.
Cheers.
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Date: 24 Jul 2006 22:18:22
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Joao wrote:
> I live on a third-floor apartment of an old brownstone building with
> very narrow stairs. I have to negotiate 6 90-degree turns as well as a
> self-closing gate a two sets of locked self-closing glass doors, plus
> the main door of the apartment. Took me a while, but nowadays I have no
> problem carrying any of my bikes (track bike, highracer, and LWB with
> fairing) up or down. It just takes practice.
>
> The only advices I can give you are; always have the bike on the inside
> of the turns, meaning if its a left turn, you stand on the right of the
> bike holding it up with your left hand. This will keep it from hitting
> the walls. And also lift the bike high enough to clear the handrails,
> so you can make even tighter turns. And depending on how much head
> clearance you have, you might need to tilt the bike in the direction of
> the stairs to keep from hitting the ceiling.
>
> With my faired LWB bike, I also learned that it is a LOT easier to carry
> it into the building and up the stairs by having the bike facing backwards.
>
> Cheers.
Thanks. That at least systematizes things a bit, which is always
helpful. I need to go to REI and pick up some stuff though. Maybe I'll
just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try that
before doing any actual fabrication. Part of this is that I've done
quite a lot of heavy lifting recently, during a move, and my joints are
wrecked. These awkward carry positions end up costing me a few days of
pain, so I'd just as soon skip it if possible. The young and stupid have
that ahead of them...
There were some other useful comments here, but lord there sure are some
dopes hanging around this group aren't there? No wonder most of the
regulars have left. I still get the HPV list in sumy form, so I'll
have to reactivate my posting function. Most of the trolls there just
get bounced out on their ear.
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 07:24:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote in message
news:4ildb8F44q5pU1@individual.net...
[...]
> There were some other useful comments here, but lord there sure are some
> dopes hanging around this group aren't there? No wonder most of the
> regulars have left. I still get the HPV list in sumy form, so I'll
> have to reactivate my posting function. Most of the trolls there just get
> bounced out on their ear.
No one owes anyone anything on Usenet. You post at your own risk and take
what comes. It is what is known as the adventure of living. I would not have
it any other way. Even Tom Sherman enjoyed the give and take of Usenet.
Most of the so-called regulars that you lament were nothing but liberal left
wing nut cases and it is good riddance to the lot of them. I will admit
there used to be a lot more regulars on this group who pretended to know
things and liked to expound on what they thought they knew. I think they are
all on the BROL board now where they can bore one another to death and not
be bothered by live wires like myself.
By the way, it would never even occur to me to come to Usenet for any kind
of information whatsoever. Either get with the fun and games that prevail
here or get lost! We do not need sourpusses like you while Ed Dolan the
Great is here. After all, this is a rather small group and can only stand so
many Great Ones like ME!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 13:57:22
From: nget
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Freewheeling Wrote:
>
> Maybe I'll
> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and tr
> that
> before doing any actual fabrication.
> Pure genius, I think he's got it now. What is roap
--
nget
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 08:53:17
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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nget wrote:
> Freewheeling Wrote:
>> Maybe I'll
>> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try
>> that
>> before doing any actual fabrication.
>> Pure genius, I think he's got it now. What is roap?
>
>
God what's up with you, dude? This is (or at least was) a newsgroup
where one could ask questions and have discussions without the pressure
of conforming to some adolescent gradeschool notion of "cool". So a
question about finding an easier way to carry a bike up the stairs
evokes a spasm of ridicule that belongs in an elementary school
lunchroom, from someone who, themselves, apparently can't even afford to
be identified.
Any time after 10PM a "rope" is a "roap". Learn the rules, for heaven sake.
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 02:48:37
From: nget
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Freewheeling Wrote:
> nget wrote:
> > Freewheeling Wrote:
> >> Maybe I'll
> >> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try
> >> that
> >> before doing any actual fabrication.
> >> Pure genius, I think he's got it now. What is roap?
> >
> >
> God what's up with you, dude? This is (or at least was) a newsgroup
> where one could ask questions and have discussions without th
> pressure
> of conforming to some adolescent gradeschool notion of "cool". So a
> question about finding an easier way to carry a bike up the stairs
> evokes a spasm of ridicule that belongs in an elementary school
> lunchroom, from someone who, themselves, apparently can't even affor
> to
> be identified.
>
> Any time after 10PM a "rope" is a "roap". Learn the rules, for heave
> sake.
My first name is k. You should refer to me as such in all you
posts from this time foward. My last name is too long to use every tim
I post and besides it is German Jewish. If any think that it would ad
to the discussion I will indeed post it.
In the past I always made sure to read your posts here on arbr, bu
lately you just seem snooty. Perhaps you are going thru male menopause
The step thru this stage of life will open a new appreciation of what i
is really like to be male.
The real "dude",
--
nget
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 17:25:15
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"nget" <nget.2big1n@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.2big1n@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> Freewheeling Wrote:
>> nget wrote:
>> > Freewheeling Wrote:
>> >> Maybe I'll
>> >> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try
>> >> that
>> >> before doing any actual fabrication.
>> >> Pure genius, I think he's got it now. What is roap?
>> >
>> >
>> God what's up with you, dude? This is (or at least was) a newsgroup
>> where one could ask questions and have discussions without the
>> pressure
>> of conforming to some adolescent gradeschool notion of "cool". So a
>> question about finding an easier way to carry a bike up the stairs
>> evokes a spasm of ridicule that belongs in an elementary school
>> lunchroom, from someone who, themselves, apparently can't even afford
>> to
>> be identified.
>>
>> Any time after 10PM a "rope" is a "roap". Learn the rules, for heaven
>> sake.
>
> My first name is k. You should refer to me as such in all your
> posts from this time foward. My last name is too long to use every time
> I post and besides it is German Jewish. If any think that it would add
> to the discussion I will indeed post it.
> In the past I always made sure to read your posts here on arbr, but
> lately you just seem snooty. Perhaps you are going thru male menopause?
> The step thru this stage of life will open a new appreciation of what it
> is really like to be male.
> The real "dude",
> k
I am not sure who this Freewheeling is. There was such a person here some
time ago who used that name. I think his real name was Scott and he was a
political science professor at some college on the East Coast, but then
there was another person here from Arizona or California I think whose name
was also Scott.
All of the above is reason enough why everyone should use their real names,
both their first and last names. All these false (user) names are enough to
drive anyone stark raving mad. Do we really need them on such a small group
as ARBR?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 08:41:34
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote in message
news:4imihmF4gucnU1@individual.net...
> nget wrote:
>> Freewheeling Wrote:
>>> Maybe I'll
>>> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try
>>> that
>>> before doing any actual fabrication. Pure genius, I think he's got it
>>> now. What is roap?
>>
>>
> God what's up with you, dude? This is (or at least was) a newsgroup where
> one could ask questions and have discussions without the pressure of
> conforming to some adolescent gradeschool notion of "cool". So a question
> about finding an easier way to carry a bike up the stairs evokes a spasm
> of ridicule that belongs in an elementary school lunchroom, from someone
> who, themselves, apparently can't even afford to be identified.
[...]
I do not like user names on Usenet. I like real names. "Freewheeling" (like
nget) is not a real name. Nor do you sign your posts with a proper signature
(like your real name for instance). Why is the kettle calling the pot black?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 26 Jul 2006 03:21:52
From: nget
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
|
Edward Dolan Wrote:
> "Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net> wrote in message
> news:4imihmF4gucnU1@individual.net...
> > nget wrote:
> >> Freewheeling Wrote:
> >>> Maybe I'll
> >>> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try
> >>> that
> >>> before doing any actual fabrication. Pure genius, I think he's go
> it
> >>> now. What is roap?
> >>
> >>
> > God what's up with you, dude? This is (or at least was) a newsgrou
> where
> > one could ask questions and have discussions without the pressure of
> > conforming to some adolescent gradeschool notion of "cool". So
> question
> > about finding an easier way to carry a bike up the stairs evokes
> spasm
> > of ridicule that belongs in an elementary school lunchroom, fro
> someone
> > who, themselves, apparently can't even afford to be identified.
> [...]
>
> I do not like user names on Usenet. I like real names. "Freewheeling
> (like
> nget) is not a real name. Nor do you sign your posts with a prope
> signature
> (like your real name for instance). Why is the kettle calling the po
> black?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Nget is a real name. It just happens to be Cambodian and as such i
very unusual. But I get your point that I should be using my own name
When I joined this group I didn't realise that this would be such a
issue. I fear not for my own life but for that of my computer. I ca
fix many things but repairing the computer is not my forte.
--
nget
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Date: 25 Jul 2006 17:13:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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"nget" <nget.2bihan@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.2bihan@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> Edward Dolan Wrote:
>> "Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net> wrote in message
>> news:4imihmF4gucnU1@individual.net...
>> > nget wrote:
>> >> Freewheeling Wrote:
>> >>> Maybe I'll
>> >>> just tie a length of roap to the bike in various positions and try
>> >>> that
>> >>> before doing any actual fabrication. Pure genius, I think he's got
>> it
>> >>> now. What is roap?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > God what's up with you, dude? This is (or at least was) a newsgroup
>> where
>> > one could ask questions and have discussions without the pressure of
>> > conforming to some adolescent gradeschool notion of "cool". So a
>> question
>> > about finding an easier way to carry a bike up the stairs evokes a
>> spasm
>> > of ridicule that belongs in an elementary school lunchroom, from
>> someone
>> > who, themselves, apparently can't even afford to be identified.
>> [...]
>>
>> I do not like user names on Usenet. I like real names. "Freewheeling"
>> (like
>> nget) is not a real name. Nor do you sign your posts with a proper
>> signature
>> (like your real name for instance). Why is the kettle calling the pot
>> black?
>
> Nget is a real name. It just happens to be Cambodian and as such is
> very unusual. But I get your point that I should be using my own name.
> When I joined this group I didn't realise that this would be such an
> issue. I fear not for my own life but for that of my computer. I can
> fix many things but repairing the computer is not my forte.
> k
k, it seems to me that you could sign off with your real name like so ...
k Nget. Nget by itself simply makes no sense to English speaking people.
Also, you always want to capitalize the first letter of a name.
I also appreciate what you say about others taking down your computer out of
spite. However, unless you are posting using a proxy address via a
newsreader which specializes in that sort of thing, you are not really
anonymous on Usenet. The only scoundrel who ever messed with my computer was
the criminal vandal troll Ed Gin. Thankfully, his types are few and far
between on Usenet.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 14:28:43
From: cc
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Freewheeling wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.)
> Some time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use
> to grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike
> up and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
Throw SWB in dumpster. Purchase normal bike. Problem solved.
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 09:05:18
From: nyobiz@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Freewheeling wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.)
> Some time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use
> to grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike
> up and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
Possibly rig up something on an old ski that would allow you to easily
secure the wheels to it? And/or a hand winch on some sort of homemade
portable stand (e.g. that you could hold it in place by standing on).
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 12:38:37
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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nyobiz@gmail.com wrote:
> Freewheeling wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
>> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
>> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
>> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
>> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.)
>> Some time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use
>> to grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike
>> up and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
>
> Possibly rig up something on an old ski that would allow you to easily
> secure the wheels to it? And/or a hand winch on some sort of homemade
> portable stand (e.g. that you could hold it in place by standing on).
>
If I'm going to the trouble of rigging a winch, it'll have to be
electrically powered. Pixie dust, maybe?
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
William of Ockham
"Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote in message
news:4i6vn7F2e85iU1@individual.net...
> Hi:
>
> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.) Some
> time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use to
> grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike up
> and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 03:27:05
From: Zebee Johnstone
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
sfb <sfb@spam.net > wrote:
> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>
down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
difficult and damned annoying.
If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
If it's say 10 or 15, a long plank of wood as a ramp? Of course
storing it is a problem.
Zebee
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 21:04:54
From: Kevin O'Neill
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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On 20 Jul 2006 03:27:05 GMT, Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@gmail.com > wrote:
>In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
>sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>
>
>down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
>difficult and damned annoying.
>
>If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>
>If it's say 10 or 15, a long plank of wood as a ramp? Of course
>storing it is a problem.
Hey, don't I recognise you from r.s.fencing?
To get my Corsa up the stairs I, er, pick it up. It balances right in
front of the seat. How heavy is your bike?
--
Kevin
and why are all these people top posting?
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 13:24:10
From: Ken Bradley
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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There is no way to carry a SWB upstair neatly, when there are people
around! If you don't have to ride off, when you get up stairs, find a place
to leave it downstair. I once got an extra key to the janitor's room,
problem solved.
"Kevin O'Neill" <K_S_ONeill@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:hn19g252iaf9ael3um88kpjei4t7bjfkrn@4ax.com...
> On 20 Jul 2006 03:27:05 GMT, Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
>>sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>>
>>
>>down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
>>difficult and damned annoying.
>>
>>If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>>
>>If it's say 10 or 15, a long plank of wood as a ramp? Of course
>>storing it is a problem.
>
> Hey, don't I recognise you from r.s.fencing?
>
> To get my Corsa up the stairs I, er, pick it up. It balances right in
> front of the seat. How heavy is your bike?
>
> --
> Kevin
> and why are all these people top posting?
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 21:33:25
From: Zebee Johnstone
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:04:54 GMT
Kevin O'Neill <K_S_ONeill@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Hey, don't I recognise you from r.s.fencing?
Yup. There aren't that many Zebees around :)
>
> To get my Corsa up the stairs I, er, pick it up. It balances right in
> front of the seat. How heavy is your bike?
I've a Giro 20, so heavier than your Corsa. I'm also 5'2" meaning
small hands and short legs and arms. I can't pick it up one handed,
not because it is too heavy but because my hands aren't big enough and
my arms not long enough to carry it comfortably one handed as the seat
gets in the way.
I also find that it is difficult to carry without the pivoting stem
pivoting and the wheel flopping.
I find I have to pick it up using 2 hands so it ends up athwartships
rather than fore and aft, making it hard to go up narrow stairwells.
Zebee
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 21:42:19
From: Kevin O'Neill
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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On 10 Sep 2006 21:33:25 GMT, Zebee Johnstone <zebeej@gmail.com > wrote:
>In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:04:54 GMT
>Kevin O'Neill <K_S_ONeill@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, don't I recognise you from r.s.fencing?
>
>Yup. There aren't that many Zebees around :)
Fencing and a Bacchetta, man. You're a person of fine tastes, I tell
you what.
>> To get my Corsa up the stairs I, er, pick it up. It balances right in
>> front of the seat. How heavy is your bike?
>
>I've a Giro 20, so heavier than your Corsa. I'm also 5'2" meaning
>small hands and short legs and arms.
Not epee, then, is it? Kidding, I'm kidding! Damn. Now I'm going to
find out you've been an epee A since dirt was clean or something.
>I can't pick it up one handed,
>not because it is too heavy but because my hands aren't big enough and
>my arms not long enough to carry it comfortably one handed as the seat
>gets in the way.
Huh, yeah. A sling seems like a good idea, then.
>I also find that it is difficult to carry without the pivoting stem
>pivoting and the wheel flopping.
Oh god, I was just saying in a thread downstream that that freakin
glideflex thing was a menace. I don't know why people like it. Do
you like it? I took it off the Corsa and it went from feeling like a
contraption to feeling like a bike.
--
Kevin
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 09:09:55
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>
>
> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
> difficult and damned annoying.
In which case I probably wouldn't even bother. I'd sell the bike and do
some other form of exercise.
>
> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
I thought I said it was a second story thing, but it's actually more
like 25 to 30 steps, a right angle turn at the top, and then the door.
Hence the need for some sort of "system". One of the regulars here had
a system worked out that involved a sling. It may have been Tom Sherman.
>
> If it's say 10 or 15, a long plank of wood as a ramp? Of course
> storing it is a problem.
I once installed a piece of angled aluminum that acted as a "gutter" up
and down which I could run the bike. Worked OK, but in this situation I
can't install anything on the steps. It has to be integral to the bike.
>
> Zebee
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 00:13:03
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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The guy was asking about some sort of fancy sling that is all lift. When
pushing, a majority of the weight is on the stairs.
Public stairs in an apartment building so a plank or anything else other
than muscling the bike is out of the question.
"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:slrnebtu09.sk3.zebeej@localhost.localdomain...
> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:56:20 -0400
> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>>
>
> down works for me, up is more "stop, lift, stop, lift". Is slow and
> difficult and damned annoying.
>
> If there are only 4 or 5 it would work, with 20, no way.
>
> If it's say 10 or 15, a long plank of wood as a ramp? Of course
> storing it is a problem.
>
> Zebee
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 05:11:21
From: Zebee Johnstone
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
|
In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:13:03 -0400
sfb <sfb@spam.net > wrote:
> The guy was asking about some sort of fancy sling that is all lift. When
> pushing, a majority of the weight is on the stairs.
>
> Public stairs in an apartment building so a plank or anything else other
> than muscling the bike is out of the question.
I find lifting it up and carrying it is much much easier than going up
one step at a time.
That's because once it is up in my arms, it is up. I don't have to
lift it again and again.
Try it with a long heavy awkward box. Put the box on the stair, lift
it to the next one, put it down, lift it again. Then pick it up and
carry it up the same number of stairs.
Bet you end up preferring method 2 :) (as long as the box is 30kg or
less.)
When I carry the bent up stairs the only way I can find to do it is to
hold it across me, so I'm a bike wide as I go up. Works Ok in the
only places I have to do it, which is train stations (providing I pick
my time....) but it wouldn't work in narrow passages.
A sling of some kind would be much easier and if I had to do it
regularly I'd certainly make one. I can see a number of difficulties,
the big one being how to manage the weight when you have to have the
seat behind you, At a rough guess I'd use a wide webbing strap, say
an old seatbelt with a seatbelt pad on it. Put another, smaller,
strap on it with velcro, wrap that around the front of the frame (I'm
thinking my Bacchetta Giro here, one long frame tube) in front of the
deraillieur mount. Do the same at the other end, the velcro around
the rack this time, or the rear stays. I'd need another loop of
something to stop the flip stem from flipping.
I think I'd then have the bike backwards to go up stairs. Have the
front wheel behind me and the back wheel in front, with the seat in
front of me too.
I'd be inclined to start with rope and fiddle about till I got the
right lengths and balance, then go to a wreckers for the webbing and a
bootmaker for sewing it up.
Zebee
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 09:19:50
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
|
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:13:03 -0400
> sfb <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>> The guy was asking about some sort of fancy sling that is all lift. When
>> pushing, a majority of the weight is on the stairs.
>>
>> Public stairs in an apartment building so a plank or anything else other
>> than muscling the bike is out of the question.
>
> I find lifting it up and carrying it is much much easier than going up
> one step at a time.
>
> That's because once it is up in my arms, it is up. I don't have to
> lift it again and again.
>
> Try it with a long heavy awkward box. Put the box on the stair, lift
> it to the next one, put it down, lift it again. Then pick it up and
> carry it up the same number of stairs.
>
> Bet you end up preferring method 2 :) (as long as the box is 30kg or
> less.)
>
> When I carry the bent up stairs the only way I can find to do it is to
> hold it across me, so I'm a bike wide as I go up. Works Ok in the
> only places I have to do it, which is train stations (providing I pick
> my time....) but it wouldn't work in narrow passages.
>
> A sling of some kind would be much easier and if I had to do it
> regularly I'd certainly make one. I can see a number of difficulties,
> the big one being how to manage the weight when you have to have the
> seat behind you, At a rough guess I'd use a wide webbing strap, say
> an old seatbelt with a seatbelt pad on it. Put another, smaller,
> strap on it with velcro, wrap that around the front of the frame (I'm
> thinking my Bacchetta Giro here, one long frame tube) in front of the
> deraillieur mount. Do the same at the other end, the velcro around
> the rack this time, or the rear stays. I'd need another loop of
> something to stop the flip stem from flipping.
>
> I think I'd then have the bike backwards to go up stairs. Have the
> front wheel behind me and the back wheel in front, with the seat in
> front of me too.
>
> I'd be inclined to start with rope and fiddle about till I got the
> right lengths and balance, then go to a wreckers for the webbing and a
> bootmaker for sewing it up.
>
> Zebee
Zeb:
I got rid of the flip stem, so the rigid stem makes it somewhat easier.
The tricky part is figuring where the balance points are, whether it's
easier to go ass-end first (including whether you reverse going down or
keep the same orientation). Once it's on your shoulder and doesn't hit
the steps it should be fairly easy to carry on the shoulder. Should
even be fairly easy to make the 90 degree swing at the top, followed by
a couple more steps. Experience tells me that if this "lofting" is too
difficult or time consuming I'll just procrastinate going for rides, to
the point that I eventually won't do it at all. Just too much hassle,
and it's always easier to have a beer or two and watch football.
I should be able to get the seatbelt webbing and some other hardware at
REI, once I have a plan of assembly. Cost should be less than $20.
Thanks for your thoughts.
--Scott
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 20:47:58
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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sfb wrote:
> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
Have you tried kicking yourself in the ass?
>
> William of Ockham
>
> "Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net> wrote in message
> news:4i6vn7F2e85iU1@individual.net...
>> Hi:
>>
>> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
>> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
>> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
>> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
>> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.) Some
>> time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use to
>> grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike up
>> and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
>
>
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Date: 19 Jul 2006 22:37:00
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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Not recently, but have pushed a bicycle up and down stairs while living in a
second floor apartment.
Have you tried to win friends and influence people by politely saying thank
you rather than treating them like a piece of shit that stuck to your shoe?
William of Ockham
"Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net > wrote in message
news:4i825pF2fqcpU1@individual.net...
> sfb wrote:
>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
> Have you tried kicking yourself in the ass?
>
>>
>> William of Ockham
>>
>> "Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net> wrote in message
>> news:4i6vn7F2e85iU1@individual.net...
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
>>> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
>>> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
>>> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
>>> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.)
>>> Some time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use
>>> to grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike
>>> up and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
>>
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Date: 20 Jul 2006 09:03:51
From: Freewheeling
Subject: Re: Strategy for getting SWB up the stairs.
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sfb wrote:
> Not recently, but have pushed a bicycle up and down stairs while living in a
> second floor apartment.
>
> Have you tried to win friends and influence people by politely saying thank
> you rather than treating them like a piece of shit that stuck to your shoe?
>
> William of Ockham
>
> "Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net> wrote in message
> news:4i825pF2fqcpU1@individual.net...
>> sfb wrote:
>>> Have you tried pushing it up and down the steps?
>> Have you tried kicking yourself in the ass?
>>
>>> William of Ockham
>>>
>>> "Freewheeling" <freewheeling@spamcoptail.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4i6vn7F2e85iU1@individual.net...
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> I just got an apartment with a great location in Princeton but it has a
>>>> rather steep set of stairs to negotiate, and no way to keep the bike on
>>>> the lower floor. I have a RANS VREX. I was wondering if anyone has a
>>>> simple strategy or device to get the bike easily up and down the stairs
>>>> without any carpentry. (I can't modify the stairs, in other words.)
>>>> Some time ago someone posted about a sling with hooks that one could use
>>>> to grab the top tube and then sling over the shoulder to carry the bike
>>>> up and down the stairs. Any engineers out there with ideas?
>
Sorry, thought it was fairly obvious that "pushing" a recumbent up and
down a narrow flight of stairs wasn't much of an option, unless you just
like the pain of bunged up fingers, strained muscles, cuts and bruises,
etc. For that reason I figured you were just being a stass. I mean,
if pushing were an adequate solution why would I be posting here about it?
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