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Date: 14 Aug 2006 15:03:50
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Subject: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it might be able to handle some offroad stuff.
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 07:24:20
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Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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msf wrote: > Bottom line - when you ride a real mountain bike you have thick and > deep treaded tires, a very maneuverable bike on which you can use your > weight and strength to do things like wheelies, pulling wheels over > obstacles, etc. You can also dismount cleanly (usually) when about to > crash. I think you're right. I don't think a bent will work on trails very well. I just put a delta stem riser on my mountain bike to raise up the bars. It's much better, but I still get uncomfortable. I'm in a transitional phase right now. Not sure if I want to give up my mountain biking, but a recumbent looks soooo comfortable. The problem is that I am limited in where I can ride it.
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 13:39:39
From: NYC XYZ
Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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cr113@hotmail.com wrote: > Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain > bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it > might be able to handle some offroad stuff. Yeah, though not exactly "downhill"...it was interesting, but wasn't a lot of fun, since there really isn't any "body English" to be applied. Hard to accelerate, and I was just bouncing up and down (not due to any design flaw of the bike's). There's actually a French website with folks doing off-road tricks on a 'bent...google it...if you can't find it, let me know and I'll dig up the bookk and post a link here....
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 12:50:17
From: msf
Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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cr113@hotmail.com wrote: > Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain > bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it > might be able to handle some offroad stuff. I have ridden my Trek R600 on fire roads and on single track. The first time on a fire road, immediate flat. Out go the Primo skinnies forever. When replaced with thicker and bigger tires (like on a hybrid) it does ok on flat fire roads without much in the way of sand or obstacles. Can be a struggle in sand or gravel. On singletrack, I ended up in a stream. It hurt. Bottom line - when you ride a real mountain bike you have thick and deep treaded tires, a very maneuverable bike on which you can use your weight and strength to do things like wheelies, pulling wheels over obstacles, etc. You can also dismount cleanly (usually) when about to crash.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 07:02:38
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Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote: > cr113@hotmail.com wrote: > > Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain > > bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it > > might be able to handle some offroad stuff. > > As long as the front wheel can climb over an obstacle, you should be > fine. Otherwise, at least a partial dismount is in order. > > Depending on your leg length, arm strength and weight, it may be > possible to partially un-weight the front wheel or even do a minor > "wheelie" (I was able to do so on a test ride of a standard frame size > BikeE FX). > > I suspect your best approach would be to stick to the trails rated as > "easy" and/or "beginner", unless you want to do a lot of dismounting > and walking. I wonder how it would do on short, steep, technical climbs? Since you have a low center of gravity it might be easier to find the balancing point between unweighting the front and rear wheels. I would think the problem would be not being able to maintain enough speed to keep the bike upright. I've never owned a bent, but have been seriously thinking about getting one. I'm probably not going to get a suspended bike. I'm leaning towards a Bacchetta Giro 20. I live right next to a research park that has miles of roads that are empty in the evening. Although I like to go fast I don't like driving in traffic, I'll take sidewalks, parking lots, anything to keep from having to drive with cars.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 20:40:59
From: Zebee Johnstone
Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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In alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent on 15 Aug 2006 07:02:38 -0700 cr113@hotmail.com <cr113@hotmail.com > wrote: > > I've never owned a bent, but have been seriously thinking about getting > one. I'm probably not going to get a suspended bike. I'm leaning > towards a Bacchetta Giro 20. I live right next to a research park that I find it a bit bumpy on heavily tree rooted cycle paths, but other than that I don't mind no suspension. I like my Giro a lot, although I don't have much to compare it with. I find it stable, easy to ride (once I learned the slow turning balance and technique) and comfortable. I hadn't ridden a bicycle for some years before I got the Giro and I suspect this means I had fewer adaptation problems than someone who has had a lot of cycling experience. THe biggest problems were learning to start off and slow speed turns. IT takes a while to get used to the angles and balance of slow speed, and to learn how to turn without fouling the tweener bars. Zebee
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 08:52:52
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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cr113@hotmail.com wrote: > Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain > bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it > might be able to handle some offroad stuff. For some values of "mountain bike trail", yes, for others it's a non-starter. For reasonably benign single track it's not as good as an MTB but it's still fine: done plenty of this on my Streetmachine, and I did a fair measure of e.g. disused railways and runs through the woods on my old fully rigid Orbit Crystal. The owner of Ligfietscentrum in Briel (NL) has an album of pictures where he took a SWB 'bent on an offroad tour with a group of MTBers, and he seemed to do just fine. Note that he despises front suspension and was using rigid forks. But for anything where you need to be out of the saddle to shift weight around, bunny-hop etc. it's not going to work... Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 18:24:35
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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cr113@hotmail.com wrote: > Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain > bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it > might be able to handle some offroad stuff. As long as the front wheel can climb over an obstacle, you should be fine. Otherwise, at least a partial dismount is in order. Depending on your leg length, arm strength and weight, it may be possible to partially un-weight the front wheel or even do a minor "wheelie" (I was able to do so on a test ride of a standard frame size BikeE FX). I suspect your best approach would be to stick to the trails rated as "easy" and/or "beginner", unless you want to do a lot of dismounting and walking. -- Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain Post Free or Die!
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 19:05:13
From: Al K
Subject: Re: Suspended recumbent offroad?
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bentrideronline.com has threads on this al k <cr113@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1155593030.696191.316830@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Anybody ever try riding a recumbent with full suspension on a mountain > bike trail? I was looking at a Cannondale Bent 1 and it looked like it > might be able to handle some offroad stuff. >
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