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Date: 28 Dec 2004 14:27:01
From: War On Error
Subject: Tadpole Trike on Ebay (Phil Wood hubs, Hudyn HPV)
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I'm selling my Leibold tadpole trike on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7124270651
This trike was built in the late 80's in Davis, CA by Jeff Leibold. The
basic design is a rigid triangulated space frame of small diameter square
steel tubing, with an adjustable aluminum boom tube. The design is ideally
designed for experimentation and easy modification, with loads of
adjustability. Aside from the Phil Wood wheelchair hubs and go kart tie
rods, all other components are standard issue bike parts from the late
1980's. Steerer bearing and kingpins are 1" threaded headsets. Brakes are
normal reach calipers. Chain routing is fully adjustable. I will include a
Leibold-built jackwheel that just clamps to the long aluminum boom tube. You
can experiment with different wheel sizes, since the brake attachment points
are fully adjustable over a wide range. The boom adjusts to accomodate a
very wide range of rider sizes. I haven't weighed it, but it feels light.
I've hauled it up narrow staircases many times.
I purchased this trike in 1996 from the original owner, and have not ridden
it very much. It still has the original and prized Hudyn HPV high-pressure
451mm tires on it. The sling seat is very cool and comfortable. The
Blackburn rack is perfect for touring, should you get serious about long
distance riding.
How does it ride? It can go pretty fast. Steering is tight. It's hard to
tip, with a wide wheel stance and low center of gravity. The tiller design
keeps hands away from the rotating wheels, which I see as a plus.
I'll include some photos and several pages of hand-written notes and
drawings by Jeff Leibold, the builder describing design details and possible
modifications.
I'll ship it in two boxes via Fed Ex Ground. Not sure what shipping will
cost; but I'll pack it carefully. Reassembly will be easy, requiring only
standard bike tools.
Email or post a followup if you have any questions.
Rocketman
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Date: 28 Dec 2004 23:55:20
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Tadpole Trike on Ebay (Phil Wood hubs, Hudyn HPV)
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Date: 28 Dec 2004 18:42:25
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Tadpole Trike on Ebay (Phil Wood hubs, Hudyn HPV)
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War On Error [1] wrote:
> I'm selling my Leibold tadpole trike on Ebay.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7124270651 ...
Here is what Zach Kaplan had to say about the Hudyn tires: "Hudyn HPV
Slick 32-451 (20x1 1/4) 6 bar (90 psi) 325 g $20 (slick, brown wall, a
very rare, high quality 451mm tyre, the highest quality 451mm tyre
available. These are no longer in production and were among the last
bicycle tyres produced in USA)." [2]
It is seriously un-cool to talk about the Phil Wood hubs on your trike.
;) The eBay announcement even says "Front hubs are Phil Wood sealed
bearing wheelchair hubs (best hubs on the planet.)"
These are the best trike hubs on the planet:
<http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df11.jpg >,
<http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df12.jpg >,
<http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df13.jpg >. :)
P.S. Which park was the picture taken in?
[1] Who is presumably posting anonymously because he never again wants
to hear the words "Detroit" and Lions" used in the same sentence.
[2] <http://mnhpva.org/tires/451.html >.
--
Tom Sherman - Who misses C-U and PCC rides
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Date: 29 Dec 2004 04:53:26
From: War On Error
Subject: Re: Tadpole Trike on Ebay (Phil Wood hubs, Hudyn HPV)
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"Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com > wrote in message
news:33ecmdF3umqsjU1@individual.net...
> War On Error [1] wrote:
>
>> I'm selling my Leibold tadpole trike on Ebay.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7124270651 ...
>
> Here is what Zach Kaplan had to say about the Hudyn tires: "Hudyn HPV
> Slick 32-451 (20x1 1/4) 6 bar (90 psi) 325 g $20 (slick, brown wall, a
> very rare, high quality 451mm tyre, the highest quality 451mm tyre
> available. These are no longer in production and were among the last
> bicycle tyres produced in USA)." [2]
Yes. They're excellent tires, and still have many miles left, thoug the
tread cap is separating from the casing a bit after 16 years or so.
> It is seriously un-cool to talk about the Phil Wood hubs on your trike. ;)
> The eBay announcement even says "Front hubs are Phil Wood sealed bearing
> wheelchair hubs (best hubs on the planet.)"
>
> These are the best trike hubs on the planet:
> <http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df11.jpg>,
> <http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df12.jpg>,
> <http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df13.jpg>. :)
Rub it in, why don't ya?
Ok, you win: Those are the sweetest hubs on the planet. Now I think I know
why you moved Heaven and Earth to obtain the rare and prized Dragonflyer.
Wow, what a machine.
> P.S. Which park was the picture taken in?
Meadowbrook, early fall, a couple of years ago. It's a beautiful place, and
great for trike riding.
> [1] Who is presumably posting anonymously because he never again wants to
> hear the words "Detroit" and Lions" used in the same sentence.
Busted! ;-)
> [2] <http://mnhpva.org/tires/451.html>.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Who misses C-U and PCC rides
PCC is wonderful.
How much do I love C-U? Perhaps this story will provide illumination.
This past summer, I interviewed in the La Jolla/San Diego CA area for my
dream job. They enthusiastically offered me the position, with a generous
salary (though not stellar). They begged me to move there and commute daily
in the best cycling climate on the planet. After the toughest decision
making process of my life, I ended up not going. There's a good reason; but
it's complex, and best not to discuss it when there's snow on the ground in
C-U. Here's a big clue, though: Ranch-style starter homes near La Jolla
cost $600,000+. I've heard that the position I turned down is still vacant.
I think I know one reason why.
Barry
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Date: 29 Dec 2004 06:38:11
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Tadpole Trike on Ebay (Phil Wood hubs, Hudyn HPV)
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War On Error wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message
> news:33ecmdF3umqsjU1@individual.net...
>
>>War On Error [1] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm selling my Leibold tadpole trike on Ebay.
>>>
>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7124270651 ...
>>
>>Here is what Zach Kaplan had to say about the Hudyn tires: "Hudyn HPV
>>Slick 32-451 (20x1 1/4) 6 bar (90 psi) 325 g $20 (slick, brown wall, a
>>very rare, high quality 451mm tyre, the highest quality 451mm tyre
>>available. These are no longer in production and were among the last
>>bicycle tyres produced in USA)." [2]
>
>
> Yes. They're excellent tires, and still have many miles left, thoug the
> tread cap is separating from the casing a bit after 16 years or so.
>
>
>>It is seriously un-cool to talk about the Phil Wood hubs on your trike. ;)
>>The eBay announcement even says "Front hubs are Phil Wood sealed bearing
>>wheelchair hubs (best hubs on the planet.)"
>>
>>These are the best trike hubs on the planet:
>><http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df11.jpg>,
>><http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df12.jpg>,
>><http://www.ihpva.org/incoming/2002/Dragonflyer/df13.jpg>. :)
>
>
> Rub it in, why don't ya?
>
> Ok, you win: Those are the sweetest hubs on the planet. Now I think I know
> why you moved Heaven and Earth to obtain the rare and prized Dragonflyer.
> Wow, what a machine.
A different Tom S., who also attended graduate school at UIUC in the
1990's, and worked as a bicycle mechanic for a store on Mattis, was
largely responsible for keeping the Dragonflyer out of the clutches of
Larry Varney. ;)
>>P.S. Which park was the picture taken in?
>
>
> Meadowbrook, early fall, a couple of years ago. It's a beautiful place, and
> great for trike riding.
Garden Pavilion (Race Street) parking lot?
I think my RANS Rocket knows how to find Meadowbook Park on its own, at
least on a Saturday morning.
>>[1] Who is presumably posting anonymously because he never again wants to
>>hear the words "Detroit" and Lions" used in the same sentence.
>
> Busted! ;-)
Is this you <http://www.j-harris.net/bike/ambfaq.htm#1.3.9 >?
>>[2] <http://mnhpva.org/tires/451.html>.
>>
>>--
>>Tom Sherman - Who misses C-U and PCC rides
>
>
> PCC is wonderful.
>
> How much do I love C-U? Perhaps this story will provide illumination.
>
> This past summer, I interviewed in the La Jolla/San Diego CA area for my
> dream job. They enthusiastically offered me the position, with a generous
> salary (though not stellar). They begged me to move there and commute daily
> in the best cycling climate on the planet. After the toughest decision
> making process of my life, I ended up not going. There's a good reason; but
> it's complex, and best not to discuss it when there's snow on the ground in
> C-U. Here's a big clue, though: Ranch-style starter homes near La Jolla
> cost $600,000+. I've heard that the position I turned down is still vacant.
> I think I know one reason why.
I have thought about getting a Ph.D. as an excuse to move back to C-U. ;)
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Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island
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