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Date: 08 Jul 2005 00:32:32
From: Lars S. Mulford
Subject: Thoughts with English riders

Howdy folks:

Just wanted the English bentheads on here to know that we're praying and
pulling for you and all your mates. Today was a real tragedy but the
English people have weathered worse storms. The most powerful thing that
seems to endow the English is that they really come together and work as a
people to overcome adversity. Hold fast; you WILL overcome.

You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
--
"Sea" ya!
--Lars S. Mulford
"You can find evil anywhere you look.
The question is, why are you looking?"

Date: 15 Jul 2005 07:31:40
From: srtraveler
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
Steve Katona

Date: 16 Jul 2005 11:13:38
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"srtraveler" <srkatona121@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1121437900.272660.13160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
> those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
> one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
> by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
> another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
> Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
> Steve Katona
>

Your sentiments are now being echoed in none less than the New York Times -
re: Thomas Friedman's July 8th column.

http://tinyurl.com/ad7ka

Friedman's point is that in the West these Islamic terrorists are nested and
firmly rooted within the Muslim communities and it is up to those
communities to rid itself of this murderous cult of death. Failure of the
Muslim community to rid itself of this cancer will result in the West doing
it for them. And doing it for them in a rather crude way - as Friedman puts
it - by walling them out of western society, denying them visas, and making
every Muslim in its midst quilty until proven innocent.

In the end it will be the Muslim community that must reach a decision that
their best interest is served by acting on the conclusion that enough is
enough.

Date: 16 Jul 2005 18:47:51
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"HHS" <hhs@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:cM-dnQB8ULG1r0TfRVn-2A@giganews.com...
>
> "srtraveler" <srkatona121@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1121437900.272660.13160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
>> those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
>> one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
>> by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
>> another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
>> Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
>> Steve Katona
>>
>
> Your sentiments are now being echoed in none less than the New York
> Times - re: Thomas Friedman's July 8th column.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ad7ka
>
> Friedman's point is that in the West these Islamic terrorists are nested
> and firmly rooted within the Muslim communities and it is up to those
> communities to rid itself of this murderous cult of death. Failure of the
> Muslim community to rid itself of this cancer will result in the West
> doing it for them. And doing it for them in a rather crude way - as
> Friedman puts it - by walling them out of western society, denying them
> visas, and making every Muslim in its midst quilty until proven innocent.
>
> In the end it will be the Muslim community that must reach a decision that
> their best interest is served by acting on the conclusion that enough is
> enough.

Yes, the silence from the Muslims has been deafening. Just how innocent are
any of them anyway? Even liberals like Freidman can be brought around if the
outrages are great enough. The ultimate solution may be the expulsion of
Muslims from Western societies. Either that, or they can reform their
confounded religion to get the murder out of it.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 15 Jul 2005 17:10:33
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Date: 16 Jul 2005 01:40:21
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <XaOdnUP1BIBprkXfRVn-3g@comcast.com >, k Leuck
<m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote:

> "srtraveler" <srkatona121@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1121437900.272660.13160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
> > those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
> > one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
> > by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
> > another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
> > Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
> > Steve Katona
>
> The problem with that is it seems each of the London bombers came from
> normal homes, one taught disabled kids, another was a kid etc, you'd be
> hard-pressed to identify them as the type that would bomb subways and buses.

Right, and its been said that none of them were particularly religious.
In fact there was a call for some volunteers of muslim decent to test
terrorist preparedness just days before. You gotta wonder if these are
the faces of the terrorists.

Date: 16 Jul 2005 00:58:54
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:150720051839465519%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <XaOdnUP1BIBprkXfRVn-3g@comcast.com>, k Leuck
> <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "srtraveler" <srkatona121@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1121437900.272660.13160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
>> > those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
>> > one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
>> > by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
>> > another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
>> > Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
>> > Steve Katona
>>
>> The problem with that is it seems each of the London bombers came from
>> normal homes, one taught disabled kids, another was a kid etc, you'd be
>> hard-pressed to identify them as the type that would bomb subways and
>> buses.
>
>
> Right, and its been said that none of them were particularly religious.
> In fact there was a call for some volunteers of muslim decent to test
> terrorist preparedness just days before. You gotta wonder if these are
> the faces of the terrorists.

Do you know how Muslims recruit suicide bombers? They tell them that they
will have virgins in Paradise administering to their every depraved sexual
lust. Now will you believe me when I tell you that the Muslim religion is a
medieval religion that needs to be badly reformed.

To equate Christianity with Islam is something that only politically correct
stupid deluded liberals (all one word) would do. But g.d. liberals are
totally out to lunch with respect to how to deal with Islamic terrorists. Is
Toronto an enclave of liberalism? If so, I hope and pray that the Islamic
terrorists will set off a nuclear bomb there and kill hundreds of thousands
of Canadian liberals. It will be good riddance to bad rubbish!

Traitors to Western Civilization do not deserve to live. Let them die and
perish from this earth!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 16 Jul 2005 21:56:52
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <4OmdnSBZS6G6P0XfRVn-qw@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:150720051839465519%upyer@bumbum.com...
> > In article <XaOdnUP1BIBprkXfRVn-3g@comcast.com>, k Leuck
> > <m..leuck@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "srtraveler" <srkatona121@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1121437900.272660.13160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
> >> > those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
> >> > one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
> >> > by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
> >> > another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
> >> > Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
> >> > Steve Katona
> >>
> >> The problem with that is it seems each of the London bombers came from
> >> normal homes, one taught disabled kids, another was a kid etc, you'd be
> >> hard-pressed to identify them as the type that would bomb subways and
> >> buses.
> >
> >
> > Right, and its been said that none of them were particularly religious.
> > In fact there was a call for some volunteers of muslim decent to test
> > terrorist preparedness just days before. You gotta wonder if these are
> > the faces of the terrorists.
>
> Do you know how Muslims recruit suicide bombers? They tell them that they
> will have virgins in Paradise administering to their every depraved sexual
> lust. Now will you believe me when I tell you that the Muslim religion is a
> medieval religion that needs to be badly reformed.
>
> To equate Christianity with Islam is something that only politically correct
> stupid deluded liberals (all one word) would do. But g.d. liberals are
> totally out to lunch with respect to how to deal with Islamic terrorists. Is
> Toronto an enclave of liberalism? If so, I hope and pray that the Islamic
> terrorists will set off a nuclear bomb there and kill hundreds of thousands
> of Canadian liberals. It will be good riddance to bad rubbish!
>
> Traitors to Western Civilization do not deserve to live. Let them die and
> perish from this earth!
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

More unworthy, maniacal ed dolan drivel. If ed had it his way everyone
would be dead. thats the kind of jackass eddie is.

Date: 16 Jul 2005 18:36:38
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:160720051456195116%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <4OmdnSBZS6G6P0XfRVn-qw@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> Do you know how Muslims recruit suicide bombers? They tell them that they
>> will have virgins in Paradise administering to their every depraved
>> sexual
>> lust. Now will you believe me when I tell you that the Muslim religion is
>> a
>> medieval religion that needs to be badly reformed.
>>
>> To equate Christianity with Islam is something that only politically
>> correct
>> stupid deluded liberals (all one word) would do. But g.d. liberals are
>> totally out to lunch with respect to how to deal with Islamic terrorists.
>> Is
>> Toronto an enclave of liberalism? If so, I hope and pray that the Islamic
>> terrorists will set off a nuclear bomb there and kill hundreds of
>> thousands
>> of Canadian liberals. It will be good riddance to bad rubbish!
>>
>> Traitors to Western Civilization do not deserve to live. Let them die and
>> perish from this earth!
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
> More unworthy, maniacal ed dolan drivel. If ed had it his way everyone
> would be dead. thats the kind of jackass eddie is.

I sure would like traitors like upyerbumbum Slugger to get off the face of
the earth. Maybe when that happy event transpires, we can get down to the
serious business of getting rid of the Islamic extremists without any
further interference from soft headed liberals like Slugger.

Liberal - thy name is perfidy! Those who will not defend their nation
against outside assault do not deserve to live within the nation. Slugger
should be exiled to a place like the Sudan for a few years. There he would
quickly discover the limitations of liberalism. His Arab Muslim masters
would teach him in a day what he needs to know in order to survive and it
would not have anything to do with his pitiful liberal philosophy.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 17 Jul 2005 03:41:07
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

>
> I sure would like traitors like upyerbumbum Slugger to get off the face of
> the earth. Maybe when that happy event transpires, we can get down to the
> serious business of getting rid of the Islamic extremists without any
> further interference from soft headed liberals like Slugger.
>
> Liberal - thy name is perfidy! Those who will not defend their nation
> against outside assault do not deserve to live within the nation. Slugger
> should be exiled to a place like the Sudan for a few years. There he would
> quickly discover the limitations of liberalism. His Arab Muslim masters
> would teach him in a day what he needs to know in order to survive and it
> would not have anything to do with his pitiful liberal philosophy.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
>
>
Another worthless post by ed dolan. you read one you have read them all.
I can't be bothered..I just see liberal and i skip it.

Date: 16 Jul 2005 23:34:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:160720052040344456%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
>>
>> I sure would like traitors like upyerbumbum Slugger to get off the face
>> of
>> the earth. Maybe when that happy event transpires, we can get down to the
>> serious business of getting rid of the Islamic extremists without any
>> further interference from soft headed liberals like Slugger.
>>
>> Liberal - thy name is perfidy! Those who will not defend their nation
>> against outside assault do not deserve to live within the nation. Slugger
>> should be exiled to a place like the Sudan for a few years. There he
>> would
>> quickly discover the limitations of liberalism. His Arab Muslim masters
>> would teach him in a day what he needs to know in order to survive and it
>> would not have anything to do with his pitiful liberal philosophy.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Another worthless post by ed dolan. you read one you have read them all.
> I can't be bothered..I just see liberal and i skip it.

Why the hell can't this ill-educated upyerbumbum Slugger capitalize his i's.
Also proper names should be capitalized, but we are dealing here with an
illiterate, Canadian variety, who thinks he is educated because he can post
to a newsgroup on his freaking computer. A little education is a dangerous
thing.

It is liberal scofflaws like Slugger who are actually not worth reading. He
is totally predictable as are all liberals. Liberals like him ought to be
taken out to sea and dumped like the worthless rubbish that they are. They
will not defend their nation against assault. Like the Spanish, they will
cave in like the cowardly people that they are.

Liberals - cowardice is thy name!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 17 Jul 2005 08:28:31
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

>
> Why the hell can't this ill-educated upyerbumbum Slugger capitalize his i's.
> Also proper names should be capitalized, but we are dealing here with an
> illiterate, Canadian variety, who thinks he is educated because he can post
> to a newsgroup on his freaking computer. A little education is a dangerous
> thing.
>
> It is liberal scofflaws like Slugger who are actually not worth reading. He
> is totally predictable as are all liberals. Liberals like him ought to be
> taken out to sea and dumped like the worthless rubbish that they are. They
> will not defend their nation against assault. Like the Spanish, they will
> cave in like the cowardly people that they are.
>
> Liberals - cowardice is thy name!
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>

I bet he dreams/has nightes about liberals taking over. Poor
bastard, can't seem to shake the fact that he is wrong and is equatable
to hitler.

*snip*I hope and pray that the Islamic terrorists will set off a
nuclear bomb there and kill hundreds of thousands of Canadian liberals.
It will be good riddance to bad rubbish!

These are the words of eddie dolan.

Date: 17 Jul 2005 18:36:35
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:170720050127589080%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
>>
>> Why the hell can't this ill-educated upyerbumbum Slugger capitalize his
>> i's.
>> Also proper names should be capitalized, but we are dealing here with an
>> illiterate, Canadian variety, who thinks he is educated because he can
>> post
>> to a newsgroup on his freaking computer. A little education is a
>> dangerous
>> thing.
>>
>> It is liberal scofflaws like Slugger who are actually not worth reading.
>> He
>> is totally predictable as are all liberals. Liberals like him ought to be
>> taken out to sea and dumped like the worthless rubbish that they are.
>> They
>> will not defend their nation against assault. Like the Spanish, they will
>> cave in like the cowardly people that they are.
>>
>> Liberals - cowardice is thy name!
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>
> I bet he dreams/has nightes about liberals taking over. Poor
> bastard, can't seem to shake the fact that he is wrong and is equatable
> to hitler.

hitler should be Hitler, you ignorant liberal bum! Equatable is not a word.
At least you spelled bastard right. That is probably because you are one.

As for liberals taking over, don't make me laugh. They have had their moment
in the sun. Now it is our turn.

> *snip*I hope and pray that the Islamic terrorists will set off a
> nuclear bomb there and kill hundreds of thousands of Canadian liberals.
> It will be good riddance to bad rubbish!
>
> These are the words of eddie dolan.

Liberals are deserving of death and eternal damnation because they are
treasonous cowards. They will not defend the nation when it comes under
attack. If only the Muslim terrorists would murder nothing but Western
liberals. Oh happy day!

Upyerbumbum Slugger hides in Canada pretending that the War on Terrorism has
nothing to do with him or his miserable country. He does not understand that
the Muslim terrorists mean to take down the entire West. The last time I
looked, Canada was still a Western nation and part of Western civilization.
I leave it to the readership of ARBR to decide what to think about such
cowards and traitors to the West.

Liberals - treason is thy name!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 21 Jul 2005 22:50:49
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> Equatable is not a word.

I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
dictionary eddie.

> At least you spelled bastard right. That is probably because you are one.

I see you are no stranger to that word either.

>
> > *snip*I hope and pray that the Islamic terrorists will set off a
> > nuclear bomb there and kill hundreds of thousands of Canadian liberals.
> > It will be good riddance to bad rubbish!
> >
> > These are the words of eddie dolan.
>
> Liberals are deserving of death and eternal damnation because they are
> treasonous cowards. They will not defend the nation when it comes under
> attack. If only the Muslim terrorists would murder nothing but Western
> liberals. Oh happy day!

Blah blah blah. Who cares.
>
> Canada was still a Western nation and part of Western civilization.
> I leave it to the readership of ARBR to decide what to think about such
> cowards and traitors to the West.

Huh? After a while i truly realize you make no sense at all.

> Liberals - treason is thy name!
>
> Ed Dolan the not so Great - Minnesota

Date: 22 Jul 2005 01:01:34
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:210720051550245159%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> Equatable is not a word.
>
> I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
> dictionary eddie.

I use spell check to catch my many typos only. I could see at first glance
that equatable was not a word. That is because I am well read and know
things like this. However, it is the sort of word I would make up to suit
me, but lesser minds such as yours should never make up words. That is
reserved for the Great Ones like myself.

>> At least you spelled bastard right. That is probably because you are one.
>
> I see you are no stranger to that word either.

Well, I think any kid over the age of 14 will know all about the word
bastard, but that does not mean we should be using it in polite
conversation. Go fuck yourself is something else we should not be telling
one another to do, at least not in polite conversation. Please look up the
word polite if you have your dictionary handy.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 22 Jul 2005 10:17:20
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <js2dnUgHh4xSFn3fRVn-1A@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:210720051550245159%upyer@bumbum.com...
> >> Equatable is not a word.
> >
> > I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
> > dictionary eddie.
>
> I use spell check to ...blah blah blah

Its a dirivative. Its in my dictionary. Better hit the books eddie.

>
> >> At least you spelled bastard right. That is probably because you are one.
> >
> > I see you are no stranger to that word either.
>
> Well, I think any kid over the age of 14 will know all about the word
> bastard, but that does not mean we should be using it in polite
> conversation. Go fuck yourself is something else we should not be telling
> one another to do, at least not in polite conversation. Please look up the
> word polite if you have your dictionary handy.

No need eddie. But politeness is something i reserve for people that I
feel deserve it. You are way past that though.

> Ed Dolan the not so Great - Minnesota

Date: 22 Jul 2005 09:15:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:220720050316345786%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <js2dnUgHh4xSFn3fRVn-1A@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:210720051550245159%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> >> Equatable is not a word.
>> >
>> > I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
>> > dictionary eddie.
>>
>> I use spell check to ...blah blah blah
>
> Its a dirivative. Its in my dictionary. Better hit the books eddie.

Name the dictionary, if you please.

>> >> At least you spelled bastard right. That is probably because you are
>> >> one.
>> >
>> > I see you are no stranger to that word either.
>>
>> Well, I think any kid over the age of 14 will know all about the word
>> bastard, but that does not mean we should be using it in polite
>> conversation. Go fuck yourself is something else we should not be
>> telling
>> one another to do, at least not in polite conversation. Please look up
>> the
>> word polite if you have your dictionary handy.
>
> No need eddie. But politeness is something i reserve for people that I
> feel deserve it. You are way past that though.

You are fine as long as you are discussing a neutral subject. But you are
not fine when the subject is controversial. Almost everything I say here on
ARBR is controversial on purpose. You should learn how to deal with my type
of person without resorting to insults. You will be happier for it and you
might actually learn something to boot.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 23 Jul 2005 10:24:21
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <KaudnQwZq-4LYn3fRVn-tQ@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:220720050316345786%upyer@bumbum.com...
> > In article <js2dnUgHh4xSFn3fRVn-1A@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> >> news:210720051550245159%upyer@bumbum.com...
> >> >> Equatable is not a word.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
> >> > dictionary eddie.
> >>
> >> I use spell check to ...blah blah blah
> >
> > Its a dirivative. Its in my dictionary. Better hit the books eddie.
>
> Name the dictionary, if you please.

Oxford.

DERIVATIVES
equatable

Date: 24 Jul 2005 00:37:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:230720050323364662%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <KaudnQwZq-4LYn3fRVn-tQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:220720050316345786%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> > In article <js2dnUgHh4xSFn3fRVn-1A@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
>> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:210720051550245159%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> >> >> Equatable is not a word.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
>> >> > dictionary eddie.
>> >>
>> >> I use spell check to ...blah blah blah
>> >
>> > Its a dirivative. Its in my dictionary. Better hit the books eddie.
>>
>> Name the dictionary, if you please.
>
> Oxford.
>
> DERIVATIVES
> equatable

Date: 25 Jul 2005 00:47:43
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <suadnfNsTr-NtH7fRVn-tg@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:230720050323364662%upyer@bumbum.com...
> > In article <KaudnQwZq-4LYn3fRVn-tQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> >> news:220720050316345786%upyer@bumbum.com...
> >> > In article <js2dnUgHh4xSFn3fRVn-1A@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> >> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:210720051550245159%upyer@bumbum.com...
> >> >> >> Equatable is not a word.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not one to spell check a usenet post but you better recheck your
> >> >> > dictionary eddie.
> >> >>
> >> >> I use spell check to ...blah blah blah
> >> >
> >> > Its a dirivative. Its in my dictionary. Better hit the books eddie.
> >>
> >> Name the dictionary, if you please.
> >
> > Oxford.
> >
> > DERIVATIVES
> > equatable

Date: 24 Jul 2005 21:01:19
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:240720051747019982%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <suadnfNsTr-NtH7fRVn-tg@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> >> Name the dictionary, if you please.
>> >
>> > Oxford.
>> >
>> > DERIVATIVES
>> > equatable

Date: 25 Jul 2005 02:30:37
From: Mike Rice
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:01:19 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net >
wrote:

>
>There are innumerable dictionaries named "Oxford." I need to know the
>publisher, the edition and the year of publication or copyright in order to
>identify your source. On the other hand I can give you my half dozen
>dictionaries for sources if you are interested.
>
>The fact is that equatable is not a word.
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
>

Hi Ed.

I find a reference to equatable here:

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=equatable&x=13&y=12

although I am not about to sign up in order to run it down any more
completely.

A search of an on line thesaurus showed no matches.

I did waste a couple minutes, but the only other hits I got on
equatable were in German >English or some such. I didn't k those
locations and don't want to spend the time to find them again.

So I guess it's not much of a word. Still I think it is close enough
to a word that we all (including you) understood it.

I trulee understand your reaction to what appears to be an attempt at
making up a word. I have been led to believe only you are allowed this
privelige.

Indiana Mike
>

Date: 25 Jul 2005 02:36:03
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Mike Rice" <jodymike@gte.net > wrote in message
news:5gi8e199mt00alpphk2a0odbsugjifl27a@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:01:19 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>There are innumerable dictionaries named "Oxford." I need to know the
>>publisher, the edition and the year of publication or copyright in order
>>to
>>identify your source. On the other hand I can give you my half dozen
>>dictionaries for sources if you are interested.
>>
>>The fact is that equatable is not a word.
>>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hi Ed.
>
> I find a reference to equatable here:
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=equatable&x=13&y=12
>
> although I am not about to sign up in order to run it down any more
> completely.
>
> A search of an on line thesaurus showed no matches.
>
> I did waste a couple minutes, but the only other hits I got on
> equatable were in German>English or some such. I didn't k those
> locations and don't want to spend the time to find them again.
>
> So I guess it's not much of a word. Still I think it is close enough
> to a word that we all (including you) understood it.

Indiana Mike found it all right. I do not see how I missed it. It is not
much of a word but still it is a word and I stand corrected. It is good to
see others here on ARBR who are "equally" concerned with me about the
proper usage of words.

> I trulee understand your reaction to what appears to be an attempt at
> making up a word. I have been led to believe only you are allowed this
> privelige.

I do not ordinarily make a fuss about such things, but it will depend on who
is saying what to whom. In the case of Slugger, I always suspect the worse.
I understood the word perfectly but I wanted to score a cheap point against
someone whom I regard as an idiot. Apparently, he is not quite the idiot I
thought he was. The moral of this tempest in a teapot is never try to score
cheap points.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Not So Great - Minnesota

Date: 25 Jul 2005 08:39:34
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> I do not ordinarily make a fuss about such things...

haha! good one eddie.

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Not So Great - Minnesota

Date: 23 Jul 2005 23:24:16
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:230720050323364662%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <KaudnQwZq-4LYn3fRVn-tQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> You are fine as long as you are discussing a neutral subject. But you are
>> not fine when the subject is controversial. Almost everything I say here
>> on
>> ARBR is controversial on purpose. You should learn how to deal with my
>> type
>> of person without resorting to insults. You will be happier for it and
>> you
>> might actually learn something to boot.
>
> Ha! I'm dealing fine. Continue on with your day.
> Yer problem is you don't know what the eff your talking about and then
> you insult people and expect them to give a damn!
> Silly bitch.

Upyerbumbum Slugger proves yet once again that he can't handle anyone who is
not a simpleton like he is. He throws words around like bastard and bitch
like they are part of his everyday vocabulary. That is because they are of
course. Then he tells you to go fuck yourself because that is what he does
to others all day long. Imagine living with a lout like him. We can take
great solace in the knowledge that he is his own worst enemy. After all, he
has to live with himself. Now there is perfect justice!

The Sluggers we will always have with us. They constitute the lowest common
denominator of humanity. However, Great Ones like myself we will not always
have with us. Therefore, we should cherish such as myself and accord such as
myself the utmost respect and admiration. After all, we do not want to end
up in the pit of degraded human jetsam and flotsam with the likes of
upyerbumbum Slugger. Only high minded and saintly types myself prevent this.
Many thanks Ed. Keep up the good work!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

aka

Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Date: 25 Jul 2005 00:49:28
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> Many thanks Ed. Keep up the good work!

Who the hell are you talking to you lunatic?

> Ed Dolan the not so Great - Minnesota
>
> aka
>
> Saint Edward the Lunatic - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Oh I see, yourself.

Date: 24 Jul 2005 20:50:41
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:240720051748476317%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
>> Many thanks Ed. Keep up the good work!
>
> Who the hell are you talking to you lunatic?
>
>> Ed Dolan the not so Great - Minnesota
>>
>> aka
>>
>> Saint Edward the Lunatic - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> Oh I see, yourself.

If you weren't such an idiot you would realize that I stopped talking to you
eons ago.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 15 Jul 2005 14:40:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"srtraveler" <srkatona121@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1121437900.272660.13160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The recent terrorist bombings in London should not have happened to
> those that it did. Terrorist bombings should not happen to anyone. No
> one deserves to be blown up. No one deserves to have their life taken
> by another person except in unavoidable defense of themselves or
> another. Vengeance and hatred can only lead to more of the same.
> Certain kinds of individuals need to be isolated from society.
> Steve Katona\

Right you are Steve, terrorist bombings should happen only to the
terrorists. But when you have liberal idiots running around equating that
which cannot be equated, then you end up with all kinds of nonsense. The US,
the only good guy left in the universe, has taken on the task of hunting
them down and killing them. The liberal way of dealing with the problem
(Clinton) was a total failure. We are at war and only dumb liberals don't
know it.

We need to hate the Muslim terrorists and we need to hunt them down and kill
them. The solution to Muslim terrorism is quite simple actually. It is only
cowardly liberals who hang everything up. I sometimes think we first need to
hate and kill all the liberals before we can effectively take on the Muslim
terrorists.

But sooner or later, the Muslim terrorists are going to set off a nuclear
weapon in a large Western city and kill hundreds of thousands of people.
Then, and only then, the confounded liberals will come around and join the
good fight.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 13 Jul 2005 12:31:54
From: Dave Larrington
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Lars S. Mulford wrote:

> You've got American bentheads here supporting you.

Ta. I was on the tube that day though not on any of the affected lines, and
didn't find out about it until I got to work. Sadly, I have just discovered
that an ex-colleague, after having been evacuated from the tube at Euston,
elected to take the bus the rest of the way to work. Yes, /that/ bus.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ >
Oxymoron: spot cream for chavs.

Date: 13 Jul 2005 22:27:14
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Dave Larrington" <smert.spamionam@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:3jkfn3Fqg6gbU1@individual.net...
> Lars S. Mulford wrote:
>
> > You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
>
> Ta. I was on the tube that day though not on any of the affected lines,
and
> didn't find out about it until I got to work. Sadly, I have just
discovered
> that an ex-colleague, after having been evacuated from the tube at Euston,
> elected to take the bus the rest of the way to work. Yes, /that/ bus.
>
> --
> Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
> Oxymoron: spot cream for chavs.

Blown up by a 19 year old kid, how pathetic

Date: 14 Jul 2005 20:04:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"k Leuck" <m..leuck@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:n_ydnRkLzOafQUjfRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>
> "Dave Larrington" <smert.spamionam@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:3jkfn3Fqg6gbU1@individual.net...
>> Lars S. Mulford wrote:
>>
>> > You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
>>
>> Ta. I was on the tube that day though not on any of the affected lines,
> and
>> didn't find out about it until I got to work. Sadly, I have just
> discovered
>> that an ex-colleague, after having been evacuated from the tube at
>> Euston,
>> elected to take the bus the rest of the way to work. Yes, /that/ bus.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
>> Oxymoron: spot cream for chavs.
>
> Blown up by a 19 year old kid, how pathetic

When I was a kid in another century teenagers were still kids, but not
anymore. Kids leave their "kid-ness" behind them at about the age of 13 when
they start getting interested in sex and other dolorous subjects. A "kid" at
19 is the prime age for killing and murdering. All armies down through
history have known this.

A 19 year old "kid" will have all the instincts for murder and mayhem
(pillage and rape) without any of the morality that might prevent it,
especially when under the influence of peer pressure and instruction by his
elders. The Muslim clerics who are preaching hatred need to be rounded up
and executed - the sooner the better.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 09 Jul 2005 08:36:16
From: Jon Shinefeld
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:AQjze.11299$kh3.10253@trnddc03...
> Howdy folks:
>
> Just wanted the English bentheads on here to know that we're praying and
> pulling for you and all your mates. Today was a real tragedy but the
> English people have weathered worse storms. The most powerful thing that
> seems to endow the English is that they really come together and work as a
> people to overcome adversity. Hold fast; you WILL overcome.
>
> You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
> --
> "Sea" ya!
> --Lars S. Mulford
> "You can find evil anywhere you look.
> The question is, why are you looking?"

So, 2 days later the tube system is up and running. The Queen has said
"Been there, done that, you won't change our way of life". Here in
Philadelphia? Politically motivated paranoia as the walkways on the
Benjamin Franklin Bridge over the Delaware River between Philly and Camden
are closed due to Agent Orange, err, I mean threat level Orange. DRPA must
have forgotten to take their medicine.
Jon Shinefeld
disgusted in Philadelphia, PA
>
>

Date: 09 Jul 2005 17:32:42
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Jon Shinefeld" <ajshine at comcast.net > wrote in message
news:dMqdnV9bKcpwXlLfRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>
>
> So, 2 days later the tube system is up and running. The Queen has said
> "Been there, done that, you won't change our way of life". Here in
> Philadelphia? Politically motivated paranoia as the walkways on the
> Benjamin Franklin Bridge over the Delaware River between Philly and Camden
> are closed due to Agent Orange, err, I mean threat level Orange. DRPA
> must
> have forgotten to take their medicine.
> Jon Shinefeld
> disgusted in Philadelphia, PA
>>
>>
>
>

Dear Disgusted in Philadelphia, PA:

I'm trying to understand your post.

Is the Ben Franklin Bridge a bridge for automobiles with pedestrian
walkways? Was the bridge closed for walking traffic, but not automotive
traffic? Who is DRPA? Are the walkways closed whenever their is a level
orange threat level? Or has there been a specific threat concerning this
bridge?

There needs so be some rational here even if it is faulty.

HHS

Date: 08 Jul 2005 11:16:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:AQjze.11299$kh3.10253@trnddc03...
> Howdy folks:
>
> Just wanted the English bentheads on here to know that we're praying and
> pulling for you and all your mates. Today was a real tragedy but the
> English people have weathered worse storms. The most powerful thing that
> seems to endow the English is that they really come together and work as a
> people to overcome adversity. Hold fast; you WILL overcome.
>
> You've got American bentheads here supporting you.

It should have happened in Paris to the French. They truly deserve it for
their perfidy to Western civilization. Maybe they will be next and we will
see some justice meted out in this world after all. Only instead of a
handful being killed, or even 3000 like in the US, maybe the eternal gods
could arrange for several hundred thousand French to perish in an atomic
blast. Then Lars S. Mulford could send a letter of condolences to the
despicable French and feel good about it without ever having to go to war.

The whole of the European continent is nothing if not a study in cowardice.
Only the UK under PM Tony Blair has shown any guts.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 09 Jul 2005 20:08:33
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <ocSdna79r-9vO1PfRVn-pQ@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:AQjze.11299$kh3.10253@trnddc03...
> > Howdy folks:
> >
> > Just wanted the English bentheads on here to know that we're praying and
> > pulling for you and all your mates. Today was a real tragedy but the
> > English people have weathered worse storms. The most powerful thing that
> > seems to endow the English is that they really come together and work as a
> > people to overcome adversity. Hold fast; you WILL overcome.
> >
> > You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
>
> It should have happened in Paris to the French. They truly deserve it for
> their perfidy to Western civilization. Maybe they will be next and we will
> see some justice meted out in this world after all. Only instead of a
> handful being killed, or even 3000 like in the US, maybe the eternal gods
> could arrange for several hundred thousand French to perish in an atomic
> blast. Then Lars S. Mulford could send a letter of condolences to the
> despicable French and feel good about it without ever having to go to war.
>
> The whole of the European continent is nothing if not a study in cowardice.
> Only the UK under PM Tony Blair has shown any guts.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>

You are an idiot.
Do you know how many Iraqi's the US has killed in the name of freedom?
Any idea how many Americans have died in the name of freedom?
Any idea how many of your freedoms have been removed since those 3000
died in the WTC attacks?
Do you look forward to troops walking the streets of your god forsaken
nation??
You are truly a sad human being and a bigot.

The blood and oil is on your hands.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/USfatalities.html

maybe this will provide some relief though
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Business&loid=8.0.185260588&pa
r=0

The subway bombs are more props for oil wars. hooray.
You are being lied to by your government, the british government and
the media.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

Date: 10 Jul 2005 11:57:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:090720051308103404%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <ocSdna79r-9vO1PfRVn-pQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:AQjze.11299$kh3.10253@trnddc03...
>> > Howdy folks:
>> >
>> > Just wanted the English bentheads on here to know that we're praying
>> > and
>> > pulling for you and all your mates. Today was a real tragedy but the
>> > English people have weathered worse storms. The most powerful thing
>> > that
>> > seems to endow the English is that they really come together and work
>> > as a
>> > people to overcome adversity. Hold fast; you WILL overcome.
>> >
>> > You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
>>
>> It should have happened in Paris to the French. They truly deserve it for
>> their perfidy to Western civilization. Maybe they will be next and we
>> will
>> see some justice meted out in this world after all. Only instead of a
>> handful being killed, or even 3000 like in the US, maybe the eternal gods
>> could arrange for several hundred thousand French to perish in an atomic
>> blast. Then Lars S. Mulford could send a letter of condolences to the
>> despicable French and feel good about it without ever having to go to
>> war.
>>
>> The whole of the European continent is nothing if not a study in
>> cowardice.
>> Only the UK under PM Tony Blair has shown any guts.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>
> You are an idiot.
> Do you know how many Iraqi's the US has killed in the name of freedom?
> Any idea how many Americans have died in the name of freedom?
> Any idea how many of your freedoms have been removed since those 3000
> died in the WTC attacks?
> Do you look forward to troops walking the streets of your god forsaken
> nation??
> You are truly a sad human being and a bigot.
>
> The blood and oil is on your hands.

Slugger is an example of treason to the West. He is Canadian, but he is
really French at heart. He belongs on that cowardly continent with all the
other traitors to Western Civilization. I recommend Paris to him where he
can sit in the sidewalk cafes along the Champs Elysees and denigrate America
and Americans along with the despicable French.

The only real solution to this problem of treasonous cowards that infest
Western Civilization is for the Islamic terrorists to set off an atomic bomb
in the heart of Paris and immediately kill several million Frenchmen. Oh
Happy Day! That is what it will take to bring the French around and cowards
and traitors like Slugger. It is hard to believe that a sap like him can
live right across the border from us.

By the way, all it is ever going to take to change COMPLETELY our way of
life is for one atom bomb to go off in one city anywhere in the world by
Islamic terrorists. All the freedoms that Slugger and others like him
cherish will be forever lost at that point. The entire world will revert to
living under tyrannies and there will be damn little precious freedom for
anyone.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

PS. Why are liberals so predictable. Note the resort to their favorite
term - bigot. Ever the last refuge of the brain dead.

Date: 11 Jul 2005 00:49:27
From: Greg Nuspel
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

>=20
> Slugger is an example of treason to the West. He is Canadian, but he is=
=20
> really French at heart. He belongs on that cowardly continent with all =
the=20
> other traitors to Western Civilization. I recommend Paris to him where =
he=20
> can sit in the sidewalk cafes along the Champs Elysees and denigrate Am=
erica=20
> and Americans along with the despicable French.
>=20
> The only real solution to this problem of treasonous cowards that infes=
t=20
> Western Civilization is for the Islamic terrorists to set off an atomic=
bomb=20
> in the heart of Paris and immediately kill several million Frenchmen. O=
h=20
> Happy Day! That is what it will take to bring the French around and cow=
ards=20
> and traitors like Slugger. It is hard to believe that a sap like him ca=
n=20
> live right across the border from us.

So someone doesn't agree with the reason you go to war and they become=20
an enemy. Show us the "Weapons of mass destruction", or did you forget=20
that that was the reason. If there was honesty in the reasoning then you =

might have more allies, but lies do not bring trust.

I do not defend what terrorists have done, or mean to belittle the=20
losses to them. I just think that the leader of a nation should speak=20
the truth if they want the world to listen. By the way I come from the=20
conservative west so don't call me a liberal, just call me honest.
>=20
> By the way, all it is ever going to take to change COMPLETELY our way o=
f=20
> life is for one atom bomb to go off in one city anywhere in the world b=
y=20
> Islamic terrorists. All the freedoms that Slugger and others like him=20
> cherish will be forever lost at that point. The entire world will rever=
t to=20
> living under tyrannies and there will be damn little precious freedom f=
or=20
> anyone.
>=20
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>=20
> PS. Why are liberals so predictable. Note the resort to their favorite =

> term - bigot. Ever the last refuge of the brain dead.
>=20
>

--=20
Greg Nuspel

The word "wilderness" occurs approximately three hundred times in the=20
Bible, and all its meanings are derogatory. ~Ren=E9 Dubos, The Wooing of=
=20
Earth, 1980

Date: 10 Jul 2005 23:09:19
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Greg Nuspel" <Greg.nospam.Nuspel@telus.net > wrote in message
news:rmjAe.115378$9A2.76395@edtnps89...

Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> Slugger is an example of treason to the West. He is Canadian, but he is
> really French at heart. He belongs on that cowardly continent with all the
> other traitors to Western Civilization. I recommend Paris to him where he
> can sit in the sidewalk cafes along the Champs Elysees and denigrate
> America and Americans along with the despicable French.
>
> The only real solution to this problem of treasonous cowards that infest
> Western Civilization is for the Islamic terrorists to set off an atomic
> bomb in the heart of Paris and immediately kill several million Frenchmen.
> Oh Happy Day! That is what it will take to bring the French around and
> cowards and traitors like Slugger. It is hard to believe that a sap like
> him can live right across the border from us.

So someone doesn't agree with the reason you go to war and they become
an enemy. Show us the "Weapons of mass destruction", or did you forget
that that was the reason. If there was honesty in the reasoning then you
might have more allies, but lies do not bring trust.

Edward Dolan writes:

The reason for the War in Iraq was to take out a potentially terrorist
state. The WMD thing was a nice pretext, but in no way essential to what
needed to be done. We may have to repeat this whole process with Iran - and
for the same reason. Or do you have a better solution for what to do about
Iran?

Edward Dolan writes:

I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan too.
Why is that I wonder?

I do not defend what terrorists have done, or mean to belittle the
losses to them. I just think that the leader of a nation should speak
the truth if they want the world to listen. By the way I come from the
conservative west so don't call me a liberal, just call me honest.

Edward Dolan writes:

All is fair in love and war. The US should pursue what it considers in it's
best interest regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. The last
thing we should ever do is to run anything past those corrupt governments
that reside in the UN (I am thinking mainly of France and Russia) .

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 11 Jul 2005 21:15:45
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

>
> Edward Dolan writes:
>
> The reason for the War in Iraq was to take out a potentially terrorist
> state. The WMD thing was a nice lie, but in no way essential to what
> needed to be done. We may have to repeat this whole process with Iran - and
> for the same reason. Or do you have a better solution for what to do about
> Iran?

Team America: World Police!

>
> Edward Dolan writes:
>
> I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan too.
> Why is that I wonder?

I have no problem with the flushing of the taliban out of Afghanistan.
What does Iraq have to do with anything?
Oh ya I forgot about that black stuff and the pipeline. The US showed
its true colours on the first day of the war by attempting to secure
the oil fields. Oh well, they are up for sale now. Only several
thousand dead. Its a small price to pay for freedom*cough* oil eh?

Good luck maintaining a pipeline all the way to Afghanistan.

> Edward Dolan writes:
>
> All is fair in love and war. The US should pursue what it considers in it's
> best interest regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. The last
> thing we should ever do is to run anything past those corrupt governments
> that reside in the UN (I am thinking mainly of France and Russia) .
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Saddam has killed less people in Iraq than Bush has. Whos the big meany
now?

Silly eddie is brainwashed.

Date: 12 Jul 2005 13:02:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:110720051415273576%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
>>
>> Edward Dolan writes:
>>
>> The reason for the War in Iraq was to take out a potentially terrorist
>> state. The WMD thing was a nice lie, but in no way essential to what
>> needed to be done. We may have to repeat this whole process with Iran -
>> and
>> for the same reason. Or do you have a better solution for what to do
>> about
>> Iran?

I leave it to the readers of ARBR to decide who is a scoundrel and who is a
Saint. Liberals can't seem to stay away from forgery and other despicable
acts of vandalism. The reason for this is because they are spoiled brats who
desperately need a good horsewhipping.

> Team America: World Police!

Hey! Somebody has got to do it. The world sure does not ever look to Canada
to do anything about anything. However, you can always depend on Canada,
like Europe, to sit on the sidelines and take advantage of the security that
the US provides for the world. Canada is essentially a parasite.

>> Edward Dolan writes:
>>
>> I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan too.
>> Why is that I wonder?
>
> I have no problem with the flushing of the taliban out of Afghanistan.
> What does Iraq have to do with anything?

All one thing. It is called the War on Terrorism.

> Oh ya I forgot about that black stuff and the pipeline. The US showed
> its true colours on the first day of the war by attempting to secure
> the oil fields. Oh well, they are up for sale now. Only several
> thousand dead. Its a small price to pay for freedom*cough* oil eh?

Slugger has oil on the brain. However, the world runs on oil so oil is vital
to the world. It is most definitely worth dying for since it the basis of
our life. A few thousand dead is a small price to pay for oil. I only wish
upyerbumbum Slugger could be one of those making the supreme sacrifice.
[...]

> Saddam has killed less people in Iraq than Bush has. Whos the big meany
> now?
>
> Silly eddie is brainwashed.

Upyerbumbum Slugger has abdicated his brain, if he ever had one. But it all
goes to show the ultimate bankruptcy of the liberal mentality. Let's face
it, would you want idiots like this running the world.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

aka

Saint Edward - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Date: 12 Jul 2005 23:49:39
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> > Team America: World Police!
>
> Hey! Somebody has got to do it. The world sure does not ever look to Canada
> to do anything about anything. However, you can always depend on Canada,
> like Europe, to sit on the sidelines and take advantage of the security that
> the US provides for the world. Canada is essentially a parasite.
>
Not our war and not our enemy. If it becomes an issue we'll get
involved but you guys need the oil*cough* i mean freedom, worse than we
do.

> >> Edward Dolan writes:
> >>
> >> I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan too.
> >> Why is that I wonder?
> >
> > I have no problem with the flushing of the taliban out of Afghanistan.
> > What does Iraq have to do with anything?
>
> All one thing. It is called the War on Terrorism.

Iraq does not equal terrorists. Try and stay focused here eddie.
But surely the US has made a few more enemies by now.
>
> > Oh ya I forgot about that black stuff and the pipeline. The US showed
> > its true colours on the first day of the war by attempting to secure
> > the oil fields. Oh well, they are up for sale now. Only several
> > thousand dead. Its a small price to pay for freedom*cough* oil eh?
>
> The U.S. has oil on the brain. However, the world runs on oil so oil is vital
> to the world. It is most definitely worth dying for since it the basis of
> our life. A few thousand dead is a small price to pay for oil. I only wish
> upyerbumbum Slugger could be one of those making the supreme sacrifice.
> [...]

Yes we all know this is true.
>
> > Saddam has killed less people in Iraq than Bush has. Whos the big meany
> > now?
> >
> > Silly eddie is brainwashed.
>
> Upyerbumbum Slugger has abdicated his brain, if he ever had one. But it all
> goes to show the ultimate bankruptcy of the liberal mentality. Let's face
> it, would you want idiots like this running the world.
>
liberal smiberal. Dolan your a tired old fart.
Ignore what you want to ace.
The facts are there.
Bush's regime has killed more that Saddam's while entirely basing this
war on a lie.

Also take note that the brits can't get their facts straight.
One moment they say it was suicide bombers and the next they say it was
detonations. Then they go back to the suicide bomber slant, saying they
all died.
WAR! TERRROR! FREEDOM!! LIBERTY!!!
Don't forget the oil boys.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com

> Ed Dolan the Great fool. - Minnesota
>
> aka
>
> Saint Edward - Order of the Perpetual fools. - Minnesota
>
>
>
>

Date: 13 Jul 2005 02:56:34
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:120720051648584696%upyer@bumbum.com...
[...]
> liberal smiberal. Dolan your a tired old fart.
> Ignore what you want to ace.
> The facts are there.
> Bush's regime has killed more that Saddam's while entirely basing this
> war on a lie.
>
> Also take note that the brits can't get their facts straight.
> One moment they say it was suicide bombers and the next they say it was
> detonations. Then they go back to the suicide bomber slant, saying they
> all died.
> WAR! TERRROR! FREEDOM!! LIBERTY!!!
> Don't forget the oil boys.

Hey look Ma! No brains!

The worst thing about upyerbumbum Slugger is that he fulfills every worst
stereotype of Canadians. I know for a fact that not all Canadians are as
stupid as he is.

If he is not talking about his ass, he is talking about his farting. I think
he must be having a very serious bowel problem, but in any event he is an
anal type. This is not good news as it means his brain is centered in his
groin, most likely in his rectum. Therefore, we cannot expect anything but
very bad smells from him. He is truly an upyerbumbum kind of guy.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 13 Jul 2005 08:13:51
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <or-dnS9bL5CrVEnfRVn-ug@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:120720051648584696%upyer@bumbum.com...
> [...]
> > liberal smiberal. Dolan your a tired old fart.
> > Ignore what you want to ace.
> > The facts are there.
> > Bush's regime has killed more that Saddam's while entirely basing this
> > war on a lie.
> >
> > Also take note that the brits can't get their facts straight.
> > One moment they say it was suicide bombers and the next they say it was
> > detonations. Then they go back to the suicide bomber slant, saying they
> > all died.
> > WAR! TERRROR! FREEDOM!! LIBERTY!!!
> > Don't forget the oil boys.
>
> Hey look Ma! No brains!
>
> The worst thing about upyerbumbum Slugger is that he fulfills every worst
> stereotype of Canadians. I know for a fact that not all Canadians are as
> stupid as he is.
>
> If he is not talking about his ass, he is talking about his farting. I think
> he must be having a very serious bowel problem, but in any event he is an
> anal type. This is not good news as it means his brain is centered in his
> groin, most likely in his rectum. Therefore, we cannot expect anything but
> very bad smells from him. He is truly an upyerbumbum kind of guy.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great loser - Minnesota

your a dissappointment to trolling

Date: 13 Jul 2005 14:25:22
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:130720050113129896%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <or-dnS9bL5CrVEnfRVn-ug@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:120720051648584696%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> [...]
>> > liberal smiberal. Dolan your a tired old fart.
>> > Ignore what you want to ace.
>> > The facts are there.
>> > Bush's regime has killed more that Saddam's while entirely basing this
>> > war on a lie.
>> >
>> > Also take note that the brits can't get their facts straight.
>> > One moment they say it was suicide bombers and the next they say it was
>> > detonations. Then they go back to the suicide bomber slant, saying they
>> > all died.
>> > WAR! TERRROR! FREEDOM!! LIBERTY!!!
>> > Don't forget the oil boys.
>>
>> Hey look Ma! No brains!
>>
>> The worst thing about upyerbumbum Slugger is that he fulfills every worst
>> stereotype of Canadians. I know for a fact that not all Canadians are as
>> stupid as he is.
>>
>> If he is not talking about his ass, he is talking about his farting. I
>> think
>> he must be having a very serious bowel problem, but in any event he is an
>> anal type. This is not good news as it means his brain is centered in his
>> groin, most likely in his rectum. Therefore, we cannot expect anything
>> but
>> very bad smells from him. He is truly an upyerbumbum kind of guy.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great loser - Minnesota
>
> your a dissappointment to trolling

Upyerbumbum Slugger should have written the above like so:

You're a disappointment to trolling.

Upyerbumbum Slugger made four mistakes in five words. NOW will you believe
me when I tell you that he is an IDIOT!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 14 Jul 2005 04:26:39
From: Mike Rice
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:25:22 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net >
wrote:
>>
>> your a dissappointment to trolling
>
><snip>Slugger should have written the above like so:
>
>You're a disappointment to trolling.
>
><snip>Slugger made four mistakes in five words. NOW will you believe
>me when I tell you that he is an IDIOT!
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
>

Hell, let's not count the period at the end. He made three misteaks in
*one* word!

He must be a truely giant IDIOT!, huh?

So long Ed.

PS-It was good to see you offer a couple recumbent sites for the one
new person to check out.

But you really do need to try & up your percentage of on topic posts
if you want to ever be taken as less than a fool.

Mike

Date: 14 Jul 2005 00:17:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Mike Rice" <jodymike@gte.net > wrote in message
news:c1qbd1tpdro8tkhjtq59np2d8cgmv60ubg@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:25:22 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> your a dissappointment to trolling
>>
>><snip>Slugger should have written the above like so:
>>
>>You're a disappointment to trolling.
>>
>><snip>Slugger made four mistakes in five words. NOW will you believe
>>me when I tell you that he is an IDIOT!
>>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>
> Hell, let's not count the period at the end. He made three misteaks in
> *one* word!

Everything counts - periods, commas, capitals where required, apostrophes
and spelling.

I would correct your misspelling above (misteaks) except that I know it is
merely a typo. You were probably thinking of your pending dinner.

> He must be a truely giant IDIOT!, huh?

Truely shoud be truly.

Slugger is in a class by himself. Not only is he illiterate, but he is dumb
besides. It does not pay for an intellectual like myself to waste time on
him.

> So long Ed.

Yes, the likes of upyerbumbum Slugger will try anyone's patience.

> PS-It was good to see you offer a couple recumbent sites for the one
> new person to check out.
>
> But you really do need to try & up your percentage of on topic posts
> if you want to ever be taken as less than a fool.

ARBR is full of fools. The trick is to be an intelligent fool.

However, I find that when I post on strictly recumbent topics that others
are no happier with me. It must be my charming personality which so
captivates everyone, including you.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 14 Jul 2005 10:44:48
From: Mike Rice
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:17:52 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net >
wrote:
<snip >
>
>I would correct your misspelling above (misteaks) except that I know it is
>merely a typo. You were probably thinking of your pending dinner.
>

The misspellings were deliberate, I knew you would feel compelled to
correct them. I actually thought you would realize they were
intentional.

>> He must be a truely giant IDIOT!, huh?
>
>Truely shoud be truly.

See above.
>
>Slugger is in a class by himself. Not only is he illiterate, but he is dumb
>besides. It does not pay for an intellectual like myself to waste time on
>him.
>

My comment (re:IDIOT!) was sarcasm, not agreement.

>> So long Ed.

And this time I mean it. Good luck Ed, but I will not be proping up
this dead thread any longer.

Oh, you did ask if FZ prefered classical music. Stravinski was one of
his favourites. He thought it odd that his 'comedy music' became
ketable & his real interest was compositional.

>
<snip >
>
>ARBR is full of fools. The trick is to be an intelligent fool.
>
>However, I find that when I post on strictly recumbent topics that others
>are no happier with me. It must be my charming personality which so
>captivates everyone, including you.
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>

Must be, although I might question your adjective.

Indiana Mike

Date: 14 Jul 2005 19:14:44
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Mike Rice" <jodymike@gte.net > wrote in message
news:41gcd1t4rhg15sdpb8ehfsfvmuul5432bc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:17:52 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>>I would correct your misspelling above (misteaks) except that I know it is
>>merely a typo. You were probably thinking of your pending dinner.
>>
>
> The misspellings were deliberate, I knew you would feel compelled to
> correct them. I actually thought you would realize they were
> intentional.

Nice save Mike. That is what I would have said too.

>>> He must be a truely giant IDIOT!, huh?
>>
>>Truely shoud be truly.
>
> See above.

Lots of people misspell truly. It is a common mistake which only giant
intellects like myself manage to avoid.

>>Slugger is in a class by himself. Not only is he illiterate, but he is
>>dumb
>>besides. It does not pay for an intellectual like myself to waste time on
>>him.
>>
>
> My comment (re:IDIOT!) was sarcasm, not agreement.

Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even Slugger
agrees with me that he is an idiot.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 16 Jul 2005 01:33:23
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even Slugger
> agrees with me that he is an idiot.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Go fuck yourself eddie! :D

Date: 16 Jul 2005 01:14:20
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:150720051832490502%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
>> Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even Slugger
>> agrees with me that he is an idiot.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
> Go fuck yourself eddie! :D

What is eddie! :D?

See! I have got upyerbumbum Slugger figured out to a T. He is an idiot and
he glories in it. He is a good old boy (brainless), Canadian variety, and he
will not defend Western Civilization. He should be living in a country like
the Sudan. He is not worthy to be a citizen of the West. He is an Easterner
(an oriental). He would be quite content in a pigsty like the Sudan where he
could kiss the ass of those superior to him.

Liberals like upyerbumbum Slugger are beneath contempt. They are cowards and
traitors to the West. I hope and pray that the Muslim terrorists will blow
him to kingdom come.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 16 Jul 2005 10:03:01
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <GL6dnQJArrlYOEXfRVn-gg@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:150720051832490502%upyer@bumbum.com...
> >
> >> Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even Slugger
> >> agrees with me that he is an idiot.
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >
> >
> > Go fuck yourself eddie! :D
>
> What is eddie! :D?
>
> See! I have got upyerbumbum Slugger figured out to a T. He is an idiot and
> he glories in it. He is a good old boy (brainless), Canadian variety, and he
> will not defend Western Civilization. He should be living in a country like
> the Sudan. He is not worthy to be a citizen of the West. He is an Easterner
> (an oriental). He would be quite content in a pigsty like the Sudan where he
> could kiss the ass of those superior to him.
>
> Liberals like upyerbumbum Slugger are beneath contempt. They are cowards and
> traitors to the West. I hope and pray that the Muslim terrorists will blow
> him to kingdom come.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

nice try eddie

Date: 16 Jul 2005 19:08:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:160720050302275213%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <GL6dnQJArrlYOEXfRVn-gg@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:150720051832490502%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> >
>> >> Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even Slugger
>> >> agrees with me that he is an idiot.
>> >>
>> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> >
>> >
>> > Go fuck yourself eddie! :D
>>
>> What is eddie! :D?
>>
>> See! I have got upyerbumbum Slugger figured out to a T. He is an idiot
>> and
>> he glories in it. He is a good old boy (brainless), Canadian variety, and
>> he
>> will not defend Western Civilization. He should be living in a country
>> like
>> the Sudan. He is not worthy to be a citizen of the West. He is an
>> Easterner
>> (an oriental). He would be quite content in a pigsty like the Sudan where
>> he
>> could kiss the ass of those superior to him.
>>
>> Liberals like upyerbumbum Slugger are beneath contempt. They are cowards
>> and
>> traitors to the West. I hope and pray that the Muslim terrorists will
>> blow
>> him to kingdom come.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> nice try eddie

You need to do some research on the Sudan, your country of future exile for
being a traitor to the West. It used to be called the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
when the English were there bringing some civilization to the place. But it
has now reverted to Arab Muslim barbarism. The Christian Blacks that remain
are enslaved and killed at will like pestiferous insects. White Liberals
like you go there and see the genocide but are helpless and feckless to do
anything about it. All liberals know how to do is to present their read
ends for a good ass kicking.

I think Slugger will really like the Sudan. He will be among his own kind
there whether black or brown skinned. He will be a subject at long last and
no longer have to carry the burdens of being a citizen of a free nation.
After all, slavery is better than war, even defensive wars. All good
liberals know that much at least.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 16 Jul 2005 23:12:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:MZidnYln6ZjrPETfRVn-rw@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:160720050302275213%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> In article <GL6dnQJArrlYOEXfRVn-gg@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
>> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>>> news:150720051832490502%upyer@bumbum.com...
>>> >
>>> >> Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even
>>> >> Slugger
>>> >> agrees with me that he is an idiot.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Go fuck yourself eddie! :D
>>>
>>> What is eddie! :D?
>>>
>>> See! I have got upyerbumbum Slugger figured out to a T. He is an idiot
>>> and
>>> he glories in it. He is a good old boy (brainless), Canadian variety,
>>> and he
>>> will not defend Western Civilization. He should be living in a country
>>> like
>>> the Sudan. He is not worthy to be a citizen of the West. He is an
>>> Easterner
>>> (an oriental). He would be quite content in a pigsty like the Sudan
>>> where he
>>> could kiss the ass of those superior to him.
>>>
>>> Liberals like upyerbumbum Slugger are beneath contempt. They are cowards
>>> and
>>> traitors to the West. I hope and pray that the Muslim terrorists will
>>> blow
>>> him to kingdom come.
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
>> nice try eddie
>
> You need to do some research on the Sudan, your country of future exile
> for being a traitor to the West. It used to be called the Anglo-Egyptian
> Sudan when the English were there bringing some civilization to the place.
> But it has now reverted to Arab Muslim barbarism. The Christian Blacks
> that remain are enslaved and killed at will like pestiferous insects.
> White Liberals like you go there and see the genocide but are helpless and
> feckless to do anything about it. All liberals know how to do is to
> present their read ends for a good ass kicking.
>
> I think Slugger will really like the Sudan. He will be among his own kind
> there whether black or brown skinned. He will be a subject at long last
> and no longer have to carry the burdens of being a citizen of a free
> nation. After all, slavery is better than war, even defensive wars. All
> good liberals know that much at least.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

In retrospect I have decided that I have been way too easy on this character
who goes by the name of upyerbumbum Slugger who resides somewhere in the
wilds of Canada.

Do liberals like him even deserve to live in the free world? That is the
question. I think not. Slugger needs to be drawn and quartered like all
liberals for their perfidy to the West. At the least a good horsewhipping
is surely in order.

A liberal idiot like Slugger thinks that everyone is somehow equal and that
all cultures and civilizations are also somehow equal and deserving of our
respect and admiration. What an absurd idea! It takes someone Great like me
to disabuse liberals of those kind of nutty notions.

A liberal idiot like Slugger thinks that the Muslims may have a point or
two and that we in the West are deserving of being murdered for our sins
against the lesser breeds. But it has always been the White Man's burden to
bring civilization to the black and brown skinned people of the earth. This
is our legacy and our mission that we derive from our vastly superior
civilization, a civilization that is anchored in Christianity.

But liberal idiots like Slugger know nothing of any of this. They think
there is something to be said for the Muslim culture. That is why I want him
to emigrate to a country where Muslims prevail. He will learn in a single
day what it is like to live in a Muslim country. He will come away from the
experience disavowing his liberalism and become a true hater of it like me.

Liberalism is nothing but treason to the West. Kerry is the best example of
it that I can think of. He was a traitor to the US on Vietnam (our noblest
war) and he remains one to this day. Thank God the country had sense enough
to reject him and what he stands for. But a liberal idiot like Slugger would
have voted for him if he had had the good fortune to be a citizen of the US
instead of a citizen of a parasite nation like Canada.

The main problem that I have with liberals like Slugger is that they do not
know who to hate. It is as important to know who to hate as it is to know
who not to hate. Here is a clue: Muslims ... bad; Americans ... good.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 17 Jul 2005 22:53:29
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

All i read was:

> Do liberals like him even deserve ...
>
> A liberal idiot like Slugger thinks ...

> A liberal idiot like Slugger thinks ...
>
> But liberal idiots like Slugger know nothing of...
>
> Liberalism is nothing but treason to ...
>
> The main problem that I have with liberals like Slugger ...
>
> Ed Dolan the not so great - Minnesota

The rest is so obvious that there is no point.

Ed thinks he's pretty funny. Poor bastard has nightes i tell ya !!

Date: 17 Jul 2005 18:58:15
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:170720051552572997%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
> All i read was:
>
>> Do liberals like him even deserve ...
>>
>> A liberal idiot like Slugger thinks ...
>
>> A liberal idiot like Slugger thinks ...
>>
>> But liberal idiots like Slugger know nothing of...
>>
>> Liberalism is nothing but treason to ...
>>
>> The main problem that I have with liberals like Slugger ...
>>
>> Ed Dolan the not so great - Minnesota
>
> The rest is so obvious that there is no point.
>
> Ed thinks he's pretty funny. Poor bastard has nightes i tell ya !!

Upyerbumbum Slugger has discovered a new word. It is bastard. All he ever
needs to do is look into a mirror to see to whom it should be applied.

The readership of ARBR can decide for themselves who has won this battle of
words. Thanks Slugger - for letting me have the opportunity to tell the
world what I think of liberals like you.

Have you applied yet for your visa to the Sudan? Your Muslim Arab masters
are waiting for you. They will show you what human nature is really like. Be
prepared to kiss ass. That is all liberals like you are good for anyway.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

PS. I actually have more respect for Slugger than I do for Jeff Grippe
because Slugger will quote me in his replies. Someone who top posts without
including any of the appropriate quotation is not worth bothering with. Jeff
may be a nicer person than Slugger, but at least Slugger plays fair. That is
all that matters to me when it comes to newsgroups.

Date: 17 Jul 2005 03:43:45
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

blah blah blah
not reading this.

In article <MZidnYln6ZjrPETfRVn-rw@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:160720050302275213%upyer@bumbum.com...
> > In article <GL6dnQJArrlYOEXfRVn-gg@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> >> news:150720051832490502%upyer@bumbum.com...
> >> >
> >> >> Nonsense! I know that you agree with me. That is a given. Even Slugger
> >> >> agrees with me that he is an idiot.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Go fuck yourself eddie! :D
> >>
> >> What is eddie! :D?
> >>
> >> See! I have got upyerbumbum Slugger figured out to a T. He is an idiot
> >> and
> >> he glories in it. He is a good old boy (brainless), Canadian variety, and
> >> he
> >> will not defend Western Civilization. He should be living in a country
> >> like
> >> the Sudan. He is not worthy to be a citizen of the West. He is an
> >> Easterner
> >> (an oriental). He would be quite content in a pigsty like the Sudan where
> >> he
> >> could kiss the ass of those superior to him.
> >>
> >> Liberals like upyerbumbum Slugger are beneath contempt. They are cowards
> >> and
> >> traitors to the West. I hope and pray that the Muslim terrorists will
> >> blow
> >> him to kingdom come.
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >
> > nice try eddie
>
> You need to do some research on the Sudan, your country of future exile for
> being a traitor to the West. It used to be called the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
> when the English were there bringing some civilization to the place. But it
> has now reverted to Arab Muslim barbarism. The Christian Blacks that remain
> are enslaved and killed at will like pestiferous insects. White Liberals
> like you go there and see the genocide but are helpless and feckless to do
> anything about it. All liberals know how to do is to present their read
> ends for a good ass kicking.
>
> I think Slugger will really like the Sudan. He will be among his own kind
> there whether black or brown skinned. He will be a subject at long last and
> no longer have to carry the burdens of being a citizen of a free nation.
> After all, slavery is better than war, even defensive wars. All good
> liberals know that much at least.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
>
>

Date: 13 Jul 2005 22:37:10
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Trolling the troll. Too predictable right eddie?

> > your a dissappointment to trolling
>
> Upyerbumbum Slugger should have written the above like so:
>
> You're a disappointment to trolling.
>
> Upyerbumbum Slugger made four mistakes in five words. NOW will you believe
> me when I tell you that he is an IDIOT!
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 12 Jul 2005 21:33:29
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:120720051648584696%upyer@bumbum.com...
>
>> > Team America: World Police!

Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>> Hey! Somebody has got to do it. The world sure does not ever look to
>> Canada
>> to do anything about anything. However, you can always depend on Canada,
>> like Europe, to sit on the sidelines and take advantage of the security
>> that
>> the US provides for the world. Canada is essentially a parasite.
>>
> Not our war and not our enemy. If it becomes an issue we'll get
> involved but you guys need the oil*cough* i mean freedom, worse than we
> do.

It is as much Canada's war as it is our war. Is not Canada a Western nation
and part of Western Civilization?

>> >> Edward Dolan writes:
>> >>
>> >> I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan
>> >> too.
>> >> Why is that I wonder?
>> >
>> > I have no problem with the flushing of the taliban out of Afghanistan.
>> > What does Iraq have to do with anything?
>>
>> All one thing. It is called the War on Terrorism.
>
> Iraq does not equal terrorists. Try and stay focused here eddie.
> But surely the US has made a few more enemies by now.

>> All one thing. It is called the War on Terrorism.
[...]

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 13 Jul 2005 08:12:24
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> It is as much Canada's war as it is our war. Is not Canada a Western nation
> and part of Western Civilization?

No, yes.

Date: 12 Jul 2005 14:22:14
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Edward Dolan wrote:
Canada is essentially a parasite.
I've been lurking on this group for a while, to find out more about
cycling. I don't have a recumbent yet, but who knows. There's certainly
quite a bit of good information that gets posted here.

Mr Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group, in fact one
gets the impression that there may be "something wrong" with him.

Steve (naturalized Canadian)

Date: 13 Jul 2005 12:55:00
From: Tim
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

On 2005-07-12, Steve <see@reply.to > wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> Canada is essentially a parasite.
> I've been lurking on this group for a while, to find out more about
> cycling. I don't have a recumbent yet, but who knows. There's certainly
> quite a bit of good information that gets posted here.
>
> Mr Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group, in fact one
> gets the impression that there may be "something wrong" with him.
>
> Steve (naturalized Canadian)

The helpful information does seem to outweigh Mr Dolan's
trollings. It's scary to think that his blinkered and naive
worldview may be common to many Americans as he seems to purport.

This group's friendlier residents have certainly convinced
me as a lurker that a recumbent should be on my list of cycling
experiences to try.
--
Tim.

Date: 15 Jul 2005 01:11:28
From: Mike Rice
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

On 13 Jul 2005 12:55:00 GMT, Tim <tim@spiny-norman.net > wrote:

>On 2005-07-12, Steve <see@reply.to> wrote:
<snip >
>
> This group's friendlier residents have certainly convinced
>me as a lurker that a recumbent should be on my list of cycling
>experiences to try.

A broken wrist interrupted my (then) latest spurt of riding an old
Schwinn Varsity some six years ago. It hung in the garage for most of
the next four years.

When I started to get back into riding (maybe two and a half years
ago) I found that after 30 or 35 miles on that bike my wrists,
shoulders, and bottom were all sore. Around the same time I noticed
the EZ Sport recumbents on E-bay & thought about getting one.

A trip to Valley Bikes in Carmel, Indiana to check out the EZ sport
led to test rides on several styles of recumbents. I thought the EZ
Sport was fun, but it didnt seem like a dramatic improvement over the
old varsity, except in comfort. I rode a Burley short wheel base, high
bottom bracket bike & it seemed quite a bit faster than the Schwinn,
but I felt a little uncomfortable with my feet so high. I thought
emergency stops might be problematic. (On reflection I am sure that a
few week's riding would aleviate that notion.) I rode a half dozen or
so different bents & went home to mull them over.

I wound up buying a long wheel base classic, a Tour Easy. Even though
the TE uses very different muscles than the upright bike I was able to
complete the Hilly Hundred ride only three weeks after getting my
bike.

On the upright a forty mile ride left me so sore I would miss the next
day's work. On the Tour Easy I enjoy riding 30 mles each way to have a
nice lunch, and feel great afterwords.

In six weeks (or so) I plan my first solo camping tour of some 700
miles over a two week camping ride.

Hope your interest takes hold for you.

Indiana Mike

Date: 13 Jul 2005 07:44:12
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Steve" <see@reply.to > wrote
>
> I've been lurking on this group for a while, to find out more about
> cycling. I don't have a recumbent yet, but who knows.

Welcome delurker!

What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
the requisite grey beard? %^P

Do you want to go fast, far, comfortable, cheap, LWB SWB
OSS USS? Touring, racing, exercising, recreating, socializing,
anti-socializing? Actually riding a recumbent is better than
reading about it! %^)

> There's certainly quite a bit of good information that gets
> posted here.

A bit. The resource here is people, not information, though.
Examine the archives. ARBR community has changed. The
actions of a very few constitute a form of habitat destruction
in the eyes of many. Continued engagement of those few
only further erodes the terrain. Other forums may be more
attractive to some people who have experience and insight
and are willing to share it.

> Mr Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group

So, what was your first clue? %^)

We are what we post.

Jon Meinecke
net.subtle-apteryx

Date: 13 Jul 2005 19:13:46
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

Jon Meinecke wrote:

>
> What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
> the requisite grey beard? %^P
>
> Do you want to go fast, far, comfortable, cheap, LWB SWB
> OSS USS? Touring, racing, exercising, recreating, socializing,
> anti-socializing? Actually riding a recumbent is better than
> reading about it! %^)
>
>

I'm interested in comfortable riding around my city, for pleasure,
recreation and exercise. My city's in northern Ontario and does not have
a grid pattern of secondary streets and main streets. Instead, there are
quite busy, fast main roads that are separated by rocky hills, in
between which there are residential and industrial enclaves.

On these big roads, I slowly use the sidewalks. It's technically
illegal, but it is fairly accepted practice. Some sidewalks are signed
that bikes are allowed. We also have some very nice bike paths that are
unpaved and quite hilly, much like hiking trails. There is also not a
network of quiet rural roads, because we're on the Canadian Shield and
sparsely settled. Outside town we mainly have busy highways.

The ideal bike here seems to be a mountain bike, and I have a good one
from 1989. I also have a new, Vietnamese Schwinn cruiser with a
Taiwanese Sturmey-Archer 3-speed coaster brake hub. The cruiser is a bit
limited, because we have many short, steep hills that the single brake
doesn't handle well. I can add a front hand brake, but haven't done so yet.

I've become interested in recumbents through Richard Ballantine's
Bicycle Book and the Internet. From web-browsing it seems that the
low-end compact long wheelbase Rans Wave(?) might be good, and it's
relatively inexpensive at about $1400 Canadian plus 15% sales taxes.
Cheaper would be nice :) .

I'd welcome any suggestions pertaining to recumbent cycling in my
situation. I've never seen a recumbent bike in this city, but have
occasionally encountered a long wheelbase touring recumbent on the highway.

By the way, the beard would be grey if it weren't shaved, and I'm
mid-50's, 5 foot 10 inches, over 200 pounds and recently retired from
full-time work. Thanks for any suggestions.

Steve

Date: 14 Jul 2005 07:37:53
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Steve" <see@reply.to > wrote
>
> I'm interested in comfortable riding around my city, for pleasure,
> recreation and exercise.

That's many of us.

> We also have some very nice bike paths that are unpaved and
> quite hilly, much like hiking trails.

A compact long wheel base with passive or active suspension
might be just the ticket, as you suggest. My first recumbent
was a BikeE AT/XL (rear suspension CLWB). I still ride it.
It is a great utility bike with a 20 litre plastic box behind the seat.
Good exercise, great fun. Great on rough surfaces,-- easy
to get your feet down. Not so great on steep hills, but manageable.
I did bike camping trips on it, pulling a trailer on converted rail
trails. Sandy trails are a problem, however. They are
discontinued, but still appear for sale used, fairly often.

> low-end compact long wheelbase Rans Wave(?) might
> be good, and it's relatively inexpensive at about $1400
> Canadian plus 15% sales taxes.

Lots of people like the Wave.

> Cheaper would be nice :) .

I don't know of used recumbent lists for Canada, but if you
decide to go used shipped from US, 1400 + 15% CAD would
be about US$1336. Subtract import taxes, fees, shipping, etc...
might leave you up to US$900 - $1000. From the BentRiderOnline
and HostelShoppe for sale lists, there are a few bikes in that
price range:

EZ-1 Lite Blue lots of miles US$525
EZ-1 Steel Red Like New US$450
1999 Rans Stratus US$925
Trek R200 US$650
Bike E, Model AT US$650 (standard size)
[XL has better weight distribution, in my opinion]
03 EZ sport $600
etc...

> I'd welcome any suggestions pertaining to recumbent cycling in my
> situation. I've never seen a recumbent bike in this city, but have
> occasionally encountered a long wheelbase touring recumbent
> on the highway.

I bought two of my recumbents seat unridden, but if you can,
ride as many different types as you can get access to.

> By the way, the beard would be grey if it weren't shaved, and I'm
> mid-50's, 5 foot 10 inches, over 200 pounds and recently retired from
> full-time work.

Perfect time to enjoy recumbent cycling! Beard is entirely optional!

> Thanks for any suggestions.

Thanks for delurking! %^)

Jon Meinecke

Date: 13 Jul 2005 18:14:33
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:1121258558.9d462bdfb979289a3a467d1e709261a6@teranews...
> "Steve" <see@reply.to> wrote
>>
> What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
> the requisite grey beard? %^P
>
ohmigod!

On my recently completed cycling trip I shaved the beard (of over 20 years).
Can I still ride recumbents? I only ride trikes now. My wife wants me to
grow it back but the feedback I getting is about 80% keep it off to 20% put
it back. I never dreamed it would have an impact on my ability to be a bent
rider. Advice urgently sought.

Jeff

PS What do the women do? I've met at least one female bent rider (not my
wife she won't go near one) and she didn't have a beard of any sort. Should
I have instructed her to don a false one?

Date: 14 Jul 2005 06:31:20
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7 > wrote
> "Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >
> > What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
> > the requisite grey beard? %^P
> >
> ohmigod!
>
> On my recently completed cycling trip I shaved the beard
> (of over 20 years).

For aerodynamics, of course, I presume. %^)

> [...] My wife wants me to grow it back

"When Momma a'int happy, a'int nobody happy!"

> I never dreamed [shaving] would have an impact on my ability
> to be a bent rider. Advice urgently sought.

Remember the movie _Breaking Away_? What else did you shave?
You're probably OK unless you did your legs and develop an urge
to speak and sing Italian...

> PS What do the women do? I've met at least one female
> bent rider (not my wife she won't go near one) and she didn't
> have a beard of any sort. Should I have instructed her to
> don a false one?

See _Life of Brian_, the stoning scene.

"You're only making it worse."
"Making it worse?"
...

Hmmm,... I don't recall read much about Italian-made recumbents....

"What did the Romans ever do for us?"

Jon Meinecke

Date: 14 Jul 2005 08:49:42
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:1121340585.10d4ef6c81b0bd0210f56db2c58cae6a@teranews...
> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7> wrote
>> "Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> >
>> > What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
>> > the requisite grey beard? %^P
>> >
>> ohmigod!
>>
>> On my recently completed cycling trip I shaved the beard
>> (of over 20 years).
>
> For aerodynamics, of course, I presume. %^)
>

Er, Ah, Um, no. Because it was either too gray or not gray enough. I'm at
this in-between stage which I hate. I wouldn't mind if the whole beard was
gray or if the whole beard was non-gray but this half gray stuff I couldn't
stand. My wife didn't mind it but then she might have ulterior motive for
not wanting me to look like a stud-muffin.

Jeff

Date: 14 Jul 2005 19:36:29
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote in message
news:11dcnspj35mkp5c@news.supernews.com...
> "Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:1121340585.10d4ef6c81b0bd0210f56db2c58cae6a@teranews...
>> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7> wrote
>>> "Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> >
>>> > What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
>>> > the requisite grey beard? %^P
>>> >
>>> ohmigod!
>>>
>>> On my recently completed cycling trip I shaved the beard
>>> (of over 20 years).
>>
>> For aerodynamics, of course, I presume. %^)
>>
>
> Er, Ah, Um, no. Because it was either too gray or not gray enough. I'm at
> this in-between stage which I hate. I wouldn't mind if the whole beard was
> gray or if the whole beard was non-gray but this half gray stuff I
> couldn't stand. My wife didn't mind it but then she might have ulterior
> motive for not wanting me to look like a stud-muffin.
>
> Jeff

I have never known any man in my life who sported a beard, however long or
short, who was not a jerk and a dork. Men who sport mustaches are half way
to being jerks and dorks. But both these types belong with men who wear
earrings and have pony tails at the back of their stupid heads.

It is the hallk of a civilized person to be clean shaven. Why any woman
would put up with a man with a beard is beyond comprehension. I would
suspect that any spark that riage ever had was put out long ago. When
women get fed up with men, they grow fat; when men get fed up with women,
they grow a beard. Thus spake Zarathustra.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 15 Jul 2005 05:53:42
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:D7ydndJ9b82OmErfRVn-hA@prairiewave.com...
>
<snip > (I snipped the whole thing because it doesn't matter what you wrote).

Ed,

I respectfully and most humbly request that you not respond to anything that
I post. I realize that this is a group in which you are free to do as you
please so I am not insisting nor demanding. I am simply making a request. It
is a request that you are fully free to honor or ignore. After this I will
not be responding to your posts and I request that you do not respond to
mine.

Many thanks,
Jeff

Date: 15 Jul 2005 06:56:48
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7 > wrote in message
news:11df1t6514tg0d4@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:D7ydndJ9b82OmErfRVn-hA@prairiewave.com...
>>
> <snip> (I snipped the whole thing because it doesn't matter what you
> wrote).

Nope, it only matters what Jeff Grippe thinks and writes. That is because he
is a liberal and only liberals matter in the grand scheme of things.
Besides, who wants to hear anything that runs counter to one's prejudices.
Original thought is anathema to conventional souls like Jeff Grippe.

> Ed,
>
> I respectfully and most humbly request that you not respond to anything
> that I post. I realize that this is a group in which you are free to do as
> you please so I am not insisting nor demanding. I am simply making a
> request. It is a request that you are fully free to honor or ignore. After
> this I will not be responding to your posts and I request that you do not
> respond to mine.
>
> Many thanks,
> Jeff

What makes you think I was writing to you or for you. I am getting tired of
having to explain to you that I write to and for the group. You are merely a
vehicle for me as is everyone else who posts. That is the essence of
belonging to a newsgroup.

You are under no obligation to respond to anything I say - ever. We are all
of us free to pick and choose what we say, how we say it and to whom we say
it. I thought everyone in the entire universe knew at least that much.

Bearded men belong to the Victorian age when shaving was a trial and
tribulation. There is no excuse for it these days. I have noted that the
clergy of various denominations like to sport beards. Maybe that is because
they are living in former centuries mentally.

Beards and facial hair have always been the insignia of the barbarian. A
clean shaven face has always been the insignia of the civilized man.
Men who wear facial hair are even more repugnant to women than they are to
civilized men.

Young men who have beards look older. Old men who have beards look ancient.
And whether young or old they look like bums besides. Why not just lie down
in your grave and get it over with.

There is everything to be said against beards and nothing to be said for
them. Thus spake Zarathustra!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 19 Jul 2005 01:32:47
From: Mike Rice
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Edward Dolan" <ed@fool.net > wrote:

(roughly translated)

'Here fishy, fishy, fishy....

Damn! They were biting so good just a few days ago!

I better start using some stronger stink bait, maybe that'll get thier
attention.

Maybe if I call a few of them by name they won't be able to resist
jumping back in.

If none of them will engage me I'll just jump into random threads with
the strongest stink bait I can come up with until one of these
IDIOTS! falls for my tricks.

I'm getting so angry it is becoming hard to cackle maniacally as I
type my posts!

Here fishy, fishy, fishy...

Damn!'

Hi Ed! I know you can take it, no hard feelings intended.

his message has actually been stuck in the limbo area of my computer
for a few days, and it seems that you have been contrbuting a few on
topic responses in the meantime.

Indiana Mike

Date: 19 Jul 2005 02:07:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Mike Rice" <jodymike@gte.net > wrote in message
news:3rlod15i60veolbmnr2rjnfaksf9epu708@4ax.com...
>
>
> "Edward Dolan" <ed@fool.net> wrote:
>
> (roughly translated)
>
> 'Here fishy, fishy, fishy....
>
> Damn! They were biting so good just a few days ago!
>
> I better start using some stronger stink bait, maybe that'll get thier
> attention.
>
> Maybe if I call a few of them by name they won't be able to resist
> jumping back in.
>
> If none of them will engage me I'll just jump into random threads with
> the strongest stink bait I can come up with until one of these
> IDIOTS! falls for my tricks.

Mike, I NEVER do that to serious threads. However, some threads are so
assinine to begin with that even I can't ruin them. Anyone who does what you
describe above I regard as a criminal vandal troll. I NEVER do that! By the
time I show up on a thread, it has already died and gone to hell.

One other way to bring ruin on a newsgroup is to post to multiple
newsgroups. Again, I NEVER do that either except on the rarest of occasions.
Everyone here on ARBR knows me by now and what to expect. That is the way I
like it and the way I want to keep it.

> I'm getting so angry it is becoming hard to cackle maniacally as I
> type my posts!
>
> Here fishy, fishy, fishy...
>
> Damn!'
>
> Hi Ed! I know you can take it, no hard feelings intended.
>
> his message has actually been stuck in the limbo area of my computer
> for a few days, and it seems that you have been contrbuting a few on
> topic responses in the meantime.
>
> Indiana Mike

Jeff has learned the hard way what a newsgroup is all about. I do respect
him for using his real name. Types like Slugger who hide behind user names
and then post insulting reks are beneath contempt. I treat them the way
they treat others.

I am an old timer on this board and I have little or no interest in helping
any newbie. However, every now and then one of the other old timers will say
something so incredibly stupid that I feel I have to say something - just to
uphold the good name of ARBR.

But mostly, as you know, I just like to tease and kid around. But I only do
that on a very limited number of threads, usually just one at a time. If I
am a troll (highly debatable), I am at least a good, law abiding troll. I
take a lot of pride in that.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

PS. I will admit I go slightly crazy when ever France and the g.d. French
are mentioned.

PS2. I like the "Indiana Mike." We all of us exist in a place, not in the
ether like some computer nerds think.

Date: 14 Jul 2005 09:52:47
From: Jon Meinecke
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote
> "Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote
>
> >> [shaved the beard]
> >
> > For aerodynamics, of course, I presume. %^)
> >
>
> Er, Ah, Um, no. Because it was either too gray or not
> gray enough. I'm at this in-between stage which I hate.

Likewise, but keep mine very short.

> My wife didn't mind it but then she might have ulterior motive for
> not wanting me to look like a stud-muffin.

Tell her Fabrizio Mazzoleni says there's no worry of that while
he's on a road bike... Probably best not to let her watch too
much Tour de France coverage even if Fab only imagines he's
there. This also might explain why there are apparently so few
Italian recumbent bikes.

In Heaven, the police are British, the mechanics
are German, the cooks are French, the lovers
are Italian, and the whole thing is organized by
the Swiss. And the Tour de France leader is
Texan.

In Hell, the police are German, the mechanics are
French, the cooks are British, the lovers are Swiss
and the whole thing is organized by the Italians.

Jon Meinecke

Date: 14 Jul 2005 09:29:58
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

Jeff Grippe wrote:

> PS What do the women do? I've met at least one female bent rider (not my
> wife she won't go near one) and she didn't have a beard of any sort. Should
> I have instructed her to don a false one?

My other half manages very well without a beard on her Nazca Fiero. See
pic at the bottom of
http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/cycling.htm for verification,
though note she /is/ wearing SPuD sandals there... ;-)

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Date: 13 Jul 2005 14:17:25
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Lurker's choice (was Thoughts...)

"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:1121258558.9d462bdfb979289a3a467d1e709261a6@teranews...
> "Steve" <see@reply.to> wrote
>>
>> I've been lurking on this group for a while, to find out more about
>> cycling. I don't have a recumbent yet, but who knows.
>
> Welcome delurker!
>
> What sort of recumbent are you considering? Do you have
> the requisite grey beard? %^P
>
> Do you want to go fast, far, comfortable, cheap, LWB SWB
> OSS USS? Touring, racing, exercising, recreating, socializing,
> anti-socializing? Actually riding a recumbent is better than
> reading about it! %^)
>
>> There's certainly quite a bit of good information that gets
>> posted here.
>
> A bit. The resource here is people, not information, though.
> Examine the archives. ARBR community has changed. The
> actions of a very few constitute a form of habitat destruction
> in the eyes of many. Continued engagement of those few
> only further erodes the terrain. Other forums may be more
> attractive to some people who have experience and insight
> and are willing to share it.

Yes, examine the archives indeed! You will see that this group was
effectively destroyed earlier this year (2005) by a criminal vandal troll,
which Jon Meinecke did nothing about. He stood by and let it happen. Now he
cries crocodile tears at how the group is not what it used to be. His powers
of analysis are minimal but his cowardice in the face of the enemy is
maximal.

It is characters like Meinecke that made me despair of this group. Now he is
mainly into kill filling all those he does not like to hear from, but that
does no prevent him from commenting on their posts. He is a scoundrel and a
cad to the bitter end.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 12 Jul 2005 15:34:09
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Steve" <see@reply.to > wrote in message
news:GPTAe.7648$qg1.504079@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> Canada is essentially a parasite.
>
Steve wrote:
>
> I've been lurking on this group for a while, to find out more about
> cycling. I don't have a recumbent yet, but who knows. There's certainly
> quite a bit of good information that gets posted here.
>
> Mr Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group, in fact one gets
> the impression that there may be "something wrong" with him.
>
> Steve (naturalized Canadian)

There should be a period after "group" since you have written two sentences,
not one. Here is how Steve should have written the above:

> Mr. Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group. In fact, one
> gets the impression that there may be "something wrong" with him.

Steve can send me $20. for the English lesson.

Steve needs to ask himself why the Canadians are not in Iraq along side the
US. As a naturalized citizen of Canada, I would expect him to have more
sense than the native Canadians like Slugger who have been brain washed for
a generation by their liberal media.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 12 Jul 2005 16:45:12
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Edward Dolan wrote:

> There should be a period after "group" since you have written two sentences,
> not one. Here is how Steve should have written the above:
>
>
>>Mr. Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group. In fact, one
>>gets the impression that there may be "something wrong" with him.
>
>
> Steve can send me $20. for the English lesson.
>

:) :) :) :) . OK, Mr Dolan does occasionally exhibit a sense of humor.
Here's to cycling.
Steve

Date: 12 Jul 2005 16:22:19
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Steve" <see@reply.to > wrote in message
news:HVVAe.2941$6e3.344808@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>
>> There should be a period after "group" since you have written two
>> sentences, not one. Here is how Steve should have written the above:
>>
>>
>>>Mr. Dolan is not a constructive contributor to the group. In fact, one
>>>gets the impression that there may be "something wrong" with him.
>>
>>
>> Steve can send me $20. for the English lesson.
>>
>
> :) :) :) :) . OK, Mr Dolan does occasionally exhibit a sense of humor.
> Here's to cycling.
> Steve

Steve, there is plenty of humor in my every post. I do not put smileys
everywhere because I want folks to get it on their own. I am often being
most humorous when I am pretending to be most serious.

The single thing most wrong with ARBR is the seriousness of many here.
Frankly, I do not understand it since Usenet (newsgroups) is basically for
light hearted banter. To take a newsgroup seriously is to have your
priorities all wrong. No group devoted to discussion can possibly work very
well without a moderator. Therefore, one might as well relax and enjoy the
comedy.

If I wanted to find out something about recumbents, I would go to a
moderated forum like BROL or better yet subscribe to RCN, the newsmagazine
for recumbents.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 11 Jul 2005 11:31:39
From: Greg Nuspel
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

>
>
> So someone doesn't agree with the reason you go to war and they become
> an enemy. Show us the "Weapons of mass destruction", or did you forget
> that that was the reason. If there was honesty in the reasoning then you
> might have more allies, but lies do not bring trust.
>
> Edward Dolan writes:
>
> The reason for the War in Iraq was to take out a potentially terrorist
> state. The WMD thing was a nice pretext, but in no way essential to what
> needed to be done. We may have to repeat this whole process with Iran - and
> for the same reason. Or do you have a better solution for what to do about
> Iran?

Nice, totally skirt the truth and honesty problem, just highlight it.
>
> Edward Dolan writes:
>
> I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan too.
> Why is that I wonder?
Canada supported the action in Afghanistan because there the true reason
for going in was an anti-terrorist action. No smoke and mirror show
was needed.
>
> I do not defend what terrorists have done, or mean to belittle the
> losses to them. I just think that the leader of a nation should speak
> the truth if they want the world to listen. By the way I come from the
> conservative west so don't call me a liberal, just call me honest.
>
> Edward Dolan writes:
>
> All is fair in love and war. The US should pursue what it considers in it's
> best interest regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. The last
> thing we should ever do is to run anything past those corrupt governments
> that reside in the UN (I am thinking mainly of France and Russia) .
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
So with this reasoning you agree with what the terrorist did. Since "all
is fair." Your logic is, not logical. They had a beef with you so they
"fairly" attacked, you in response "fairly" attacked them, what will be
the next "fair" move. Many nations in the past have pursued what they
considered their "best interests", many have been or are the "enemy."

By the way in consideration of the safety of President Bush I did send
him links to recumbent trike sites since he had his accident on his
bike. I hope he gets one it would be great for the trike builders business.

--
Greg Nuspel

When a man throws an empty cigarette package from an automobile, he is
liable to a fine of $50. When a man throws a billboard across a view,
he is richly rewarded. ~Pat Brown, quoted in David Ogilvy, Ogilvy on
Advertising, 1985

Date: 11 Jul 2005 21:29:42
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Greg Nuspel" <Greg.nospam.Nuspel@telus.net > wrote in message
news:vMsAe.146341$on1.97375@clgrps13...

<snip >

> By the way in consideration of the safety of President Bush I did send him
> links to recumbent trike sites since he had his accident on his bike. I
> hope he gets one it would be great for the trike builders business.
> --
> Greg Nuspel
>

None of this "I fell of my bike and it hurt so bad" whining from President
Bush. He rides a mt. bike off road for heaven's sake. You do this and you
will shed a bit of blood from time to time if you are doing it right. This
isn't something that those whose main interest is being comfortable would
want to do.

So sorry Greg, but the odds of the President seeing a photo of you in your
"Bush Lied" t-shirt are much greater than the odds of you seeing a photo of
him riding a tricycle. Get real.

HHS

Date: 12 Jul 2005 03:00:43
From: Greg Nuspel
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

You didn't hear about his running into a policeman at the G8 and
injuring himself. It was all tongue in cheek, but I forget if it isn't
obvious many wont get it, but at least I injected a recumbent twist to
this.

Also I wouldn't want a Bush Lied shirt, I prefer the one critasizing our
politicians after all they are just as corrupt. I think it goes with the
territory, ultimate power ultimately corrupts.

Have a nice day :-)

>
> None of this "I fell of my bike and it hurt so bad" whining from President
> Bush. He rides a mt. bike off road for heaven's sake. You do this and you
> will shed a bit of blood from time to time if you are doing it right. This
> isn't something that those whose main interest is being comfortable would
> want to do.
>
> So sorry Greg, but the odds of the President seeing a photo of you in your
> "Bush Lied" t-shirt are much greater than the odds of you seeing a photo of
> him riding a tricycle. Get real.
>
> HHS
>
>

--
Greg Nuspel

Because we don't think about future generations, they will never forget
us. ~Henrik Tikkanen

Date: 11 Jul 2005 15:00:01
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Greg Nuspel" <Greg.nospam.Nuspel@telus.net > wrote in message
news:vMsAe.146341$on1.97375@clgrps13...
>
>>
>>
>> So someone doesn't agree with the reason you go to war and they become
>> an enemy. Show us the "Weapons of mass destruction", or did you forget
>> that that was the reason. If there was honesty in the reasoning then you
>> might have more allies, but lies do not bring trust.
>>
>> Edward Dolan writes:
>>
>> The reason for the War in Iraq was to take out a potentially terrorist
>> state. The WMD thing was a nice pretext, but in no way essential to what
>> needed to be done. We may have to repeat this whole process with Iran -
>> and for the same reason. Or do you have a better solution for what to do
>> about Iran?
>
> Nice, totally skirt the truth and honesty problem, just highlight it.

The WMD argument was never important to me since we had at least a half
dozen other good reasons for taking Iraq out.

>> Edward Dolan writes:
>>
>> I am reasonably certain that you were against the War in Afghanistan too.
>> Why is that I wonder?
>
> Canada supported the action in Afghanistan because there the true reason
> for going in was an anti-terrorist action. No smoke and mirror show was
> needed.

Canada, like most of Europe, was only lukewarm about fighting the Islamic
terrorists.They preferred Clinton's way, which was to do nothing.

>> I do not defend what terrorists have done, or mean to belittle the
>> losses to them. I just think that the leader of a nation should speak
>> the truth if they want the world to listen. By the way I come from the
>> conservative west so don't call me a liberal, just call me honest.
>>
>> Edward Dolan writes:
>>
>> All is fair in love and war. The US should pursue what it considers in
>> it's best interest regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. The
>> last thing we should ever do is to run anything past those corrupt
>> governments that reside in the UN (I am thinking mainly of France and
>> Russia) .
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>
> So with this reasoning you agree with what the terrorist did. Since "all
> is fair." Your logic is, not logical. They had a beef with you so they
> "fairly" attacked, you in response "fairly" attacked them, what will be
> the next "fair" move. Many nations in the past have pursued what they
> considered their "best interests", many have been or are the "enemy."

The Islamic terrorists committed many acts of aggression against the US
which culminated in 9/11, but you are too dense to even acknowledge any of
it. You would have been the same at the time of Pearl Harbor too. Too many
like you and the West will be done in. It must be nice to have a big brother
like the US to protect you from your own folly.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 11 Jul 2005 23:59:43
From: Greg Nuspel
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Ed = http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/troglodyte.htm

--
Greg Nuspel

Nature provides a free lunch, but only if we control our appetites.
~William Ruckelshaus, Business Week, 18 June 1990

Date: 10 Jul 2005 23:29:31
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <6_ydnUZ0j7v_zkzfRVn-vQ@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:090720051308103404%upyer@bumbum.com...
> > In article <ocSdna79r-9vO1PfRVn-pQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> > <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:AQjze.11299$kh3.10253@trnddc03...
> >> > Howdy folks:
> >> >
> >> > Just wanted the English bentheads on here to know that we're praying
> >> > and
> >> > pulling for you and all your mates. Today was a real tragedy but the
> >> > English people have weathered worse storms. The most powerful thing
> >> > that
> >> > seems to endow the English is that they really come together and work
> >> > as a
> >> > people to overcome adversity. Hold fast; you WILL overcome.
> >> >
> >> > You've got American bentheads here supporting you.
> >>
> >> It should have happened in Paris to the French. They truly deserve it for
> >> their perfidy to Western civilization. Maybe they will be next and we
> >> will
> >> see some justice meted out in this world after all. Only instead of a
> >> handful being killed, or even 3000 like in the US, maybe the eternal gods
> >> could arrange for several hundred thousand French to perish in an atomic
> >> blast. Then Lars S. Mulford could send a letter of condolences to the
> >> despicable French and feel good about it without ever having to go to
> >> war.
> >>
> >> The whole of the European continent is nothing if not a study in
> >> cowardice.
> >> Only the UK under PM Tony Blair has shown any guts.
> >>
> >> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >>
> >
> > You are an idiot.
> > Do you know how many Iraqi's the US has killed in the name of freedom?
> > Any idea how many Americans have died in the name of freedom?
> > Any idea how many of your freedoms have been removed since those 3000
> > died in the WTC attacks?
> > Do you look forward to troops walking the streets of your god forsaken
> > nation??
> > You are truly a sad human being and a bigot.
> >
> > The blood and oil is on your hands.
>
> Slugger is an example of treason to the West. He is Canadian, but he is
> really French at heart. He belongs on that cowardly continent with all the
> other traitors to Western Civilization. I recommend Paris to him where he
> can sit in the sidewalk cafes along the Champs Elysees and denigrate America
> and Americans along with the despicable French.
>
> The only real solution to this problem of treasonous cowards that infest
> Western Civilization is for the Islamic terrorists to set off an atomic bomb
> in the heart of Paris and immediately kill several million Frenchmen. Oh
> Happy Day! That is what it will take to bring the French around and cowards
> and traitors like Slugger. It is hard to believe that a sap like him can
> live right across the border from us.
>
> By the way, all it is ever going to take to change COMPLETELY our way of
> life is for one atom bomb to go off in one city anywhere in the world by
> Islamic terrorists. All the freedoms that Slugger and others like him
> cherish will be forever lost at that point. The entire world will revert to
> living under tyrannies and there will be damn little precious freedom for
> anyone.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
> PS. Why are liberals so predictable. Note the resort to their favorite
> term - bigot. Ever the last refuge of the brain dead.

I didn't expect you to have an intelligent answer anyways. Typical of a
republican - brainwashed to the end.
Can't see the forest for the trees.

Date: 10 Jul 2005 23:19:14
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:100720051629100977%upyer@bumbum.com...
[...]
> I didn't expect you to have an intelligent answer anyways. Typical of a
> republican - brainwashed to the end.
> Can't see the forest for the trees.

I recommend that Slugger partake every day of the Rush Limbaugh show on
radio and follow up in the evening with O'Reilly on TV. He should also
follow Fox News on TV to get fair and balanced reporting. Finally, he can
read such newspapers online as the NY Times and the Washington Post to get
the liberal slant on things. When he has done all of the above, then he can
make up his own mind about who is not seeing the forest for the trees.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 11 Jul 2005 21:03:06
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

In article <UtSdnVoBj6HebkzfRVn-rQ@prairiewave.com >, Edward Dolan
<edolan@iw.net > wrote:

> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
> news:100720051629100977%upyer@bumbum.com...
> [...]
> > I didn't expect you to have an intelligent answer anyways. Typical of a
> > republican - brainwashed to the end.
> > Can't see the forest for the trees.
>
> I recommend that Slugger partake every day of the Rush Limbaugh show on
> radio and follow up in the evening with O'Reilly on TV. He should also
> follow Fox News on TV to get fair and balanced reporting. Finally, he can
> read such newspapers online as the NY Times and the Washington Post to get
> the liberal slant on things. When he has done all of the above, then he can
> make up his own mind about who is not seeing the forest for the trees.
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Fair and Balanced.
You sound like a TV commercial, which only proves that you are
brainwashed.

Fox News is far from news.
Its more like tabloid world news. Essentially what I wipe my ass with
when I'm out of moonfloss.

As far as I'm concerned, cousin Kerry was a shill for the Republicans
and you live in a dictatorship, fair and balanced of course.

Date: 12 Jul 2005 11:37:57
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com > wrote in message
news:110720051402467968%upyer@bumbum.com...
> In article <UtSdnVoBj6HebkzfRVn-rQ@prairiewave.com>, Edward Dolan
> <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>
>> "Slugger" <upyer@bumbum.com> wrote in message
>> news:100720051629100977%upyer@bumbum.com...
>> [...]
>> > I didn't expect you to have an intelligent answer anyways. Typical of a
>> > republican - brainwashed to the end.
>> > Can't see the forest for the trees.
>>
>> I recommend that Slugger partake every day of the Rush Limbaugh show on
>> radio and follow up in the evening with O'Reilly on TV. He should also
>> follow Fox News on TV to get fair and balanced reporting. Finally, he can
>> read such newspapers online as the NY Times and the Washington Post to
>> get
>> the liberal slant on things. When he has done all of the above, then he
>> can
>> make up his own mind about who is not seeing the forest for the trees.
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
>
> Fair and Balanced.
> You sound like a TV commercial, which only proves that you are
> brainwashed.

Did I not mention that I also read the NY Times and the Washington Post?

> Fox News is far from news.
> Its more like tabloid world news. Essentially what I wipe my ass with
> when I'm out of moonfloss.

I am sure upyerbumbum Slugger needs to wipe his ass quite often with
something or another.

> As far as I'm concerned, cousin Kerry was a shill for the Republicans
> and you live in a dictatorship, fair and balanced of course.

Who is cousin Kerry? A relation of yours?

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Date: 12 Jul 2005 23:30:44
From: Slugger
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

> Who is cousin Kerry? A relation of yours?
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Not my cousin. Cousin Kerry the Shill they should call him.

http://msn.ancestry.com/landing/strange/bush4/tree.htm

Date: 08 Jul 2005 09:13:42
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

Lars S. Mulford wrote:

> You've got American bentheads here supporting you.

Appreciated, thanks (though I live in Scotland now, I'm originally from
outer London).

A sad statistic is there's more injury and death in a typical week on
the UK's roads :-(

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Date: 09 Jul 2005 17:44:27
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk > wrote in message
news:3j6qt7Fok5t2U1@individual.net...
<snip >

> A sad statistic is there's more injury and death in a typical week on the
> UK's roads :-(
>
> Pete.

Another sad statistic is that more people die of cancer in a typical week in
UK medical facilities. :-(

So what's your point Peter?

HHS

Date: 11 Jul 2005 09:01:26
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

HHS wrote:

> Another sad statistic is that more people die of cancer in a typical week in
> UK medical facilities. :-(
>
> So what's your point Peter?

With the roads, that we do that much harm to *ourselves* every week, but
nobody really seems to mind 3000 deaths a year on the roads nearly as
much as 50 in a bomb attack. Me, I deplore them both.

Some carnage on the road network is going to be unavoidable, but if
people actually followed the traffic laws properly you could save a lot
more than 50 people, year in, year out. Yet getting to the next queue
30 seconds earlier is good justification for driving like a loon.

So, what's your problem, HHS?

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Date: 11 Jul 2005 06:34:18
From: HHS
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk > wrote in message
news:3jenaaFp7matU1@individual.net...
> HHS wrote:
>
>> Another sad statistic is that more people die of cancer in a typical week
>> in UK medical facilities. :-(
>>
>> So what's your point Peter?
>
> With the roads, that we do that much harm to *ourselves* every week, but
> nobody really seems to mind 3000 deaths a year on the roads nearly as much
> as 50 in a bomb attack. Me, I deplore them both.
>
> Some carnage on the road network is going to be unavoidable, but if people
> actually followed the traffic laws properly you could save a lot more than
> 50 people, year in, year out. Yet getting to the next queue 30 seconds
> earlier is good justification for driving like a loon.
>
> So, what's your problem, HHS?
>
> Pete.
> --

No problem here peter. Just noting that you make those 50 or so terrorist
murders seem so trivial compared to the 3,000 deaths you indicated you do to
yourselves every year in traffic accidents. Rather than spend time and
resources fighting terrorism perhaps you would prefer to have those assets
diverted to driver education programs. And, of course, by the same logic it
could be claimed your military deaths in Iraq are insignificant compared to
the "carnage" you do to yourselves on your own roads.

Date: 11 Jul 2005 13:40:55
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

HHS wrote:

> No problem here peter. Just noting that you make those 50 or so terrorist
> murders seem so trivial compared to the 3,000 deaths you indicated you do to
> yourselves every year in traffic accidents.

I don't really see that saying I deplore them both trivialises one
compared to the other. But the simple fact of the matter was it wasn't
actually a particularly successful piece of terrorism in absolute terms.
Compare Thursday's efforts with the destructive force of what the IRA
was routinely doing through the 70s and it's clear it could very easily
have been much, much worse. My highlighting of road casualties, which
we inflict on ourselves, was to give some perspective to how much worse
it could easily have been.

> Rather than spend time and
> resources fighting terrorism perhaps you would prefer to have those assets
> diverted to driver education programs.

Bottom line is unnecessary deaths. I care about unnecessary deaths. If
you knew (we don't of course, but as a rhetorical question) that
spending X would save 3000 road deaths *or* 50 terrorist victims, which
would you choose? I'd take the former, from the 2950 extra lives saved.
It's not that simple, of course, and I'm not pretending it is.

> And, of course, by the same logic it
> could be claimed your military deaths in Iraq are insignificant compared to
> the "carnage" you do to yourselves on your own roads.

They are, they're just not on the news because since it's routine it's
no longer worth thinking about from the news worthiness angle. What's
your point?
I'll just point out I'm a native of London and my Dad was up in town on
Thursday, using the public transport network, before you try and
misinterpret what I've been writing as some sort of apologist agenda for
terrorists.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Date: 11 Jul 2005 11:25:55
From: Buck
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

On 07/11/2005 09:01:26 Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk > wrote:

> HHS wrote:

>> Another sad statistic is that more people die of cancer in a typical week
>> in UK medical facilities. :-(

>> So what's your point Peter?

> With the roads, that we do that much harm to *ourselves* every week, but
> nobody really seems to mind 3000 deaths a year on the roads nearly as much
> as 50 in a bomb attack. Me, I deplore them both.

> Some carnage on the road network is going to be unavoidable, but if people
> actually followed the traffic laws properly you could save a lot more than
> 50 people, year in, year out. Yet getting to the next queue 30 seconds
> earlier is good justification for driving like a loon.

> So, what's your problem, HHS?

Bad driving is an internal issue, terrorism is an external one, we
cannot in all conciense site the two together.

--

Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Date: 10 Jul 2005 12:33:43
From:
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

HHS <hhs@nospam.com > wrote:

: "Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk > wrote in message
: news:3j6qt7Fok5t2U1@individual.net...
: <snip >

: > A sad statistic is there's more injury and death in a typical week on the
: > UK's roads :-(
: >
: > Pete.

: Another sad statistic is that more people die of cancer in a typical week in
: UK medical facilities. :-(

: So what's your point Peter?

: HHS

Probably that there's (relatively speaking) nothing to get
hysterical about. After all:

1. There is no terrorist group that has targeted bent riders or
threatened to target bent riders.
2. Being low to the ground, bents are relatively safe from bomb
blasts (fragments and concussion).

Keep riding, least lives lost that way...

--
Risto Varanka

Date: 09 Jul 2005 20:24:00
From: Mark Leuck
Subject: Re: Thoughts with English riders

"HHS" <hhs@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:CY-dnd0uZ_ndzk3fRVn-2g@giganews.com...
>
> "Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:3j6qt7Fok5t2U1@individual.net...
> <snip>
>
> > A sad statistic is there's more injury and death in a typical week on
the
> > UK's roads :-(
> >
> > Pete.
>
> Another sad statistic is that more people die of cancer in a typical week
in
> UK medical facilities. :-(
>
> So what's your point Peter?
>
> HHS

Don't ride bents while you have cancer?