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Date: 15 Dec 2005 09:01:47
From: Porky
Subject: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!
Hey Tom,

You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including celebrities
holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
supporters.

This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party. And
NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.

Contact the Seller for details.

Porky - not really





 
Date: 24 Dec 2005 07:23:11
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

gotbent wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1135389474.299246.80260@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....
> >
> > As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
> > letters.
> >
> > I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
> > Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
> > (AVD Windcheetah "Speedy").
> >
> > I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
> > prefer "T" bars.
> >
> >
> The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of the
> carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when referring
> to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word "ass".

I was recalling when Young Monkey bought the "seat forward" Baron from
Little Barbie [1], Ed convinced YM to put "C" bars on it instead of the
narrow crossbar and vertical bar-ends that Scooter devised. (I remember
discussing this with the Big Bent Brat at the Easter ride at GSU a
couple of years ago.)

[1] <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/BaronBarb.jpg >.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 24 Dec 2005 11:05:22
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

"Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1135437791.587011.187490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> gotbent wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1135389474.299246.80260@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Edward Dolan wrote:
>> >> ...
>> >> Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....
>> >
>> > As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
>> > letters.
>> >
>> > I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
>> > Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
>> > (AVD Windcheetah "Speedy").
>> >
>> > I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
>> > prefer "T" bars.
>> >
>> >
>> The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of
>> the
>> carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when
>> referring
>> to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word "ass".
>
> I was recalling when Young Monkey bought the "seat forward" Baron from
> Little Barbie [1], Ed convinced YM to put "C" bars on it instead of the
> narrow crossbar and vertical bar-ends that Scooter devised. (I remember
> discussing this with the Big Bent Brat at the Easter ride at GSU a
> couple of years ago.)
>
> [1] <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/BaronBarb.jpg>.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
>
I remember seeing those C bars through the back window as YM wheelsucked,
errr, motorpaced Ed's van doing a practice century as Frank and Alan flew
around Kaneville.




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Date: 23 Dec 2005 17:57:54
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....

As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
letters.

I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
(AVD Windcheetah "Speedy").

I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
prefer "T" bars.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 24 Dec 2005 07:12:59
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

"Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1135389474.299246.80260@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> ...
>> Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind?....
>
> As an acronym for above seat steering "ASS" should be in all capital
> letters.
>
> I must admit all the bikes I have seen Ed Gin riding have been Above
> Seat Steering, and for his trike period Ed also had Above Seat Steering
> (AVD Windcheetah "Speedy").
>
> I disagree with Ed Gin about the shape - Ed prefers "C" bars while I
> prefer "T" bars.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
>
>
The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of the
carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when referring
to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word "ass".



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Date: 24 Dec 2005 09:58:23
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

"gotbent" <gofast@golow.com > wrote in message
news:1135430123_11329@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
[...]
> The former Ed Gin NoCom has "T" bars, while a couple other members of the
> carbon fiber NoCom armada in Chicago preferred "C" bars. Yet when
> referring to Ed Dolan, one could properly and quite correctly use the word
> "ass".

This ass, Ed Dolan, never wants to be anywhere in the vicinity of that other
ass, Ed Gin. In fact, Chicagoland is a good place to stay away from as your
ass is in mortal danger there from the Chicago armada (whatever that is).

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota


Main Entry: ar·ma·da
Pronunciation: är-'mä-d&, -'mA- also -'ma-
Function: noun
Etymology: Spanish, from Medieval Latin armata army, fleet, from Latin,
feminine of armatus, past participle of are to arm, from arma
1 : a fleet of warships
2 : a large force or group usually of moving things <an armada of fishing
boats >

Merriam-Webster Online





 
Date: 23 Dec 2005 07:40:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

"Porky" <banningisajoke@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1134666107.380104.118570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hey Tom,
>
> You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
> locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
> around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
> Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including celebrities
> holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
> Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
> supporters.
>
> This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party. And
> NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.
>
> Contact the Seller for details.
>
> Porky - not really

This is Ed Gin communicating with his good buddy Tom Sherman. Why would this
have not been better sent via email? You know, just one asshole to another.
Do the rest of us need to know anything at all about these two despicable
characters? I think not!

Ed Gin and Tom Sherman seem not to realize that ARBR is an international
forum for recumbent cyclists from all over the world. Instead we get this
incestuous crap from Chicagoland. God, the place must be the pits. Tom
Sherman would be well advised to move back to the Quad Cities (Illinois
Side) so as to absent himself from this Chicago scum as personified by Ed
Gin.

Why does Ed Gin always have ass on his mind? Does he want or need a good
fucking in those quarters? I have noted how focused he is on the ass all the
time. I think he must be a repressed homo if not a flaming queen. I would
like to advise him that the anus is nothing but an exit for the GI tract.
Maybe Mr. Sherman could explain this to him as I know he still posses
glimmers of intelligence.

It is my fondest wish that a great semi-trailer truck will run down this
motley group on New Year's Day. God, it would be so great to get rid of this
Chicago shit group once and for all.

Worst Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota






 
Date: 20 Dec 2005 21:13:19
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

jimmymac_4@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Will Jimmy Mac be there? ;)
> >
> > I should be able to find my way there - I can just follow the Fox
> > River.
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
>
> The Fox River flows all the way Porky Gin's residence?

The "expert" on all things related to Ed Gin should be aware that I did
not buy either Sunset from Ed Gin.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 17 Dec 2005 15:01:50
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Porky wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Lugging around a body mass in excess off 600 lbs is quite diffficult.
> Jimmy Mac's domain is restricted to the 4 walls as pictured at his
> Forest Glen Compound within Chicago City Limits:
>
> http://highracers.blogspot.com/2005/12/killer-bees-hire-jimmy-mac-as-their.html
>
> I'd venture to guess he doesn't fit inside his compact car anymore
> either.
>
> Yeah, Just follow the Rd. to McDonalds and his street is right there.
>
> See ya for the New Year!!!!!

That is good news - I wouldn't want to be associated with Jimmy Mac's
stinky straw man!

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



 
Date: 16 Dec 2005 19:27:22
From:
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!
> Will Jimmy Mac be there? ;)
>
> I should be able to find my way there - I can just follow the Fox
> River.
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

The Fox River flows all the way Porky Gin's residence?



 
Date: 16 Dec 2005 03:33:37
From: Porky
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!
Tom,

Lugging around a body mass in excess off 600 lbs is quite diffficult.
Jimmy Mac's domain is restricted to the 4 walls as pictured at his
Forest Glen Compound within Chicago City Limits:

http://highracers.blogspot.com/2005/12/killer-bees-hire-jimmy-mac-as-their.html

I'd venture to guess he doesn't fit inside his compact car anymore
either.

Yeah, Just follow the Rd. to McDonalds and his street is right there.

See ya for the New Year!!!!!

Porky - not in the least



 
Date: 15 Dec 2005 21:25:30
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) wrote:
> Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> > nget who? wrote:
> > > ...
> > > You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
> > > win a race in 2006.
> >
> > Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> > <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
> >
> > Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
> > winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.
>
>
> How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
> "RAAM."

RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
<http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html >.

Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bike in
the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
(assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 16 Dec 2005 00:50:46
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

"Johnny Sunset" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1134710730.712982.259320@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) ...
[...]

It is entirely possible that Ed Dolan could be taken for God Almighty, but
that is the only One he could ever be hypothesized for. Like God, Ed Dolan
is a Great Ego and he will have no other Egos before him (least of all the
likes of a Tom Sherman)!

Tom Sherman rocks? Well, he has rocks in his head all right and he is surely
headed for the old rocking chair, but those are the only rocks I know about
in connection with him.

Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota








  
Date: 16 Dec 2005 17:19:21
From: nget
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) wrote:
> > Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> > > nget who? wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > You could all put your heads together and figure out how t
> actually
> > > > win a race in 2006.
> > >
> > > Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> > > <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
> > >
> > > Look through the results and you will not find a case of
> highracer
> > > winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.
> >
> >
> > How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
> > "RAAM."
>
> RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
> <http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.
>
> Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
> area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bik
> in
> the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
> uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
> Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
> inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
> (assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

Try this test. Take both bikes in question to the top of a small hill
Let go of both bikes without riders and tell us all which is the faste
of the two.
Until the time comes when either your test or mine is done, is it no
premature to claim which is the fastest unfaired bike in the know
universe?
Isn't it time to bury the hatchet

--
nget



   
Date: 16 Dec 2005 09:25:27
From: Ohio Jerry
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

"nget" <nget.204e0e@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote in message
news:nget.204e0e@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>
> Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> > nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) wrote:
> > > Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> > > > nget who? wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > You could all put your heads together and figure out how to
> > actually
> > > > > win a race in 2006.
> > > >
> > > > Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> > > > <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
> > > >
> > > > Look through the results and you will not find a case of a
> > highracer
> > > > winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.
> > >
> > >
> > > How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
> > > "RAAM."
> >
> > RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bike speed:
> > <http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.
> >
> > Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
> > area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaired Bike
> > in
> > the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal power inputs -
> > uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
> > Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
> > inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
> > (assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good working order).
> >
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
>
> Try this test. Take both bikes in question to the top of a small hill.
> Let go of both bikes without riders and tell us all which is the faster
> of the two.
> Until the time comes when either your test or mine is done, is it not
> premature to claim which is the fastest unfaired bike in the known
> universe?
> Isn't it time to bury the hatchet?
>
>
> --
> nget
>
I'm pretty sure that in this particular test my TerraTrike would beat them
both. Eventually. ;-)

Jerry




    
Date: 17 Dec 2005 18:39:50
From: nget
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Ohio Jerry Wrote:
> "nget" <nget.204e0e@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> news:nget.204e0e@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
> >
> > Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> > > nget (who is hypothesized by some to be Ed Dolan) wrote:
> > > > Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> > > > > nget who? wrote:
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > You could all put your heads together and figure out how to
> > > actually
> > > > > > win a race in 2006.
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> > > > > <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
> > > > >
> > > > > Look through the results and you will not find a case of a
> > > highracer
> > > > > winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual one
> > > > "RAAM."
> > >
> > > RAAM in many ways is more a test of team organization than bik
> speed:
> > > <http://www.adventurecorps.com/when/raam/1989raam2.html>.
> > >
> > > Put power measuring cranks (and riders with equal mass and frontal
> > > area) on a Bacchetta Aero and Velokraft NoCom [Fastest Unfaire
> Bike
> > > in
> > > the Known Universe] and see which is faster under equal powe
> inputs -
> > > uphill, downhill, into the wind, any paved road in the US, Canada,
> > > Japan or Europe, etc. Unless the trial is done in more than 4 or 5
> > > inches of standing water, the NoCom will be faster than the Aero
> > > (assuming both bikes are properly setup and in good workin
> order).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley
> >
> > Try this test. Take both bikes in question to the top of a smal
> hill.
> > Let go of both bikes without riders and tell us all which is th
> faster
> > of the two.
> > Until the time comes when either your test or mine is done, is i
> not
> > premature to claim which is the fastest unfaired bike in the known
> > universe?
> > Isn't it time to bury the hatchet?
> >
> >
> > --
> > nget
> >
> I'm pretty sure that in this particular test my TerraTrike would bea
> them
> both. Eventually. ;-)
>
> Jerry

Your right about that, but what do you think those guys are going t
do with the hatchet

--
nget



 
Date: 15 Dec 2005 20:39:35
From: Johnny Sunset
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

nget wrote:
> Porky Wrote:
> > Hey Tom,
> >
> > You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
> > locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
> > around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
> > Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including
> > celebrities
> > holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
> > Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
> > supporters.
> >
> > This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party.
> > And
> > NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.
> >
> > Contact the Seller for details.
> >
> > Porky - not really
>
> You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
> win a race in 2006.

Check out the HPRA racing results page:
<http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm >.

Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.

--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley



  
Date: 16 Dec 2005 16:05:07
From: nget
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Johnny Sunset Wrote:
> nget wrote:
> > Porky Wrote:
> > > Hey Tom,
> > >
> > > You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, a
> the
> > > locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours.
> Meet
> > > around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if yo
> want.
> > > Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including
> > > celebrities
> > > holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
> > > Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
> > > supporters.
> > >
> > > This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party.
> > > And
> > > NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.
> > >
> > > Contact the Seller for details.
> > >
> > > Porky - not really
> >
> > You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actually
> > win a race in 2006.
>
> Check out the HPRA racing results page:
> <http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/hpra.htm>.
>
> Look through the results and you will not find a case of a highracer
> winning over a carbon fiber composite splitter-plate lowracer.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley

How many times do they need to go around the circle to egual on
"RAAM.

--
nget



 
Date: 16 Dec 2005 14:50:20
From: nget
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Porky Wrote:
> Hey Tom,
>
> You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
> locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
> around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
> Expect the same crowd you've known for many years includin
> celebrities
> holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
> Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
> supporters.
>
> This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party.
> And
> NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.
>
> Contact the Seller for details.
>
> Porky - not really

You could all put your heads together and figure out how to actuall
win a race in 2006

--
nget



 
Date: 15 Dec 2005 17:39:02
From: Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic
Subject: Re: Tom Sherman, YOU ROCK!

Porky wrote:
> Hey Tom,
>
> You are hereby invited to a New Year's Celebration on Jan 1st, at the
> locale where you purchased that great Sunset Lowracer of yours. Meet
> around 10 AM, rain, snow, or whatever. Bring a dish if you want.
> Expect the same crowd you've known for many years including celebrities
> holding world cycling records, multiple competitors from Battle
> Mountain, famous recumbent webmasters, and some of your silent
> supporters.
>
> This will be our 6th consecutive "start the New Year right" party. And
> NO KILLER BEE ASSWIPE will be needed.
>
> Contact the Seller for details.
>
> Porky - not really

Will Jimmy Mac be there? ;)

I should be able to find my way there - I can just follow the Fox
River.
--
Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley