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Date: 08 Mar 2007 08:09:02
From: Buck
Subject: Troll food
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I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
group is dead.
I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls
and the spam.
My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
lines at any one time,
on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
--
Three wheels good, two wheels ok
www.catrike.co.uk
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 17:17:55
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 23, 9:45 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1174438288.504644.109630@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 14, 10:54 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> >> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in
> >> messagenews:1173836273.491266.283600@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...>
> > On 11, 9:36 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>
> >> [...]
>
> >> >> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense?
> >> >> What
> >> >> a fucking idiot you are!
>
> >> > In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There is
> >> > even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
>
> >> I am not familiar with "focking," but the substitute that I am familiar
> >> with
> >> is "freaking." However, it does not make much sense to fool around with
> >> substitutes here on ARBR since we all male slobs who truly deserve one
> >> another. Nope, "fucking" will do just fine when it is called for which it
> >> often is where you are concerned.
>
> > "Focking" is no less rude than "fucking", but more humorous; therefore
> > the preferred usage on Usenet.
>
> Nope, unlike you, I like to be crystal clear in what I mean. There are any
> number of folks who will not know what is meant by "focking" whereas
> everyone in the known universe will know exactly what is meant by "fucking,"...
I saw "fukc" spray-painted onto a wall in Denk, so not everyone is
clear on the spelling.
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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
GHAWAR IS DYING!
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 19:44:10
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1174695475.538680.277350@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 23, 9:45 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1174438288.504644.109630@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 14, 10:54 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> >> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1173836273.491266.283600@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...>
>> > On 11, 9:36 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>>
>> >> [...]
>>
>> >> >> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some
>> >> >> sense?
>> >> >> What
>> >> >> a fucking idiot you are!
>>
>> >> > In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There
>> >> > is
>> >> > even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
>>
>> >> I am not familiar with "focking," but the substitute that I am
>> >> familiar
>> >> with
>> >> is "freaking." However, it does not make much sense to fool around
>> >> with
>> >> substitutes here on ARBR since we all male slobs who truly deserve one
>> >> another. Nope, "fucking" will do just fine when it is called for which
>> >> it
>> >> often is where you are concerned.
>>
>> > "Focking" is no less rude than "fucking", but more humorous; therefore
>> > the preferred usage on Usenet.
>>
>> Nope, unlike you, I like to be crystal clear in what I mean. There are
>> any
>> number of folks who will not know what is meant by "focking" whereas
>> everyone in the known universe will know exactly what is meant by
>> "fucking,"...
>
> I saw "fukc" spray-painted onto a wall in Denk, so not everyone is
> clear on the spelling.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> GHAWAR IS DYING!
>
Maybe the tagger is the guy who gave someone from Chicago a tattoo that
read "Chi-tonw".
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:01:09
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 16, 4:54 pm, "gotbent" wrote:
> Roger Zoul wrote in message
>
> ...
> > I'm curious. How old are you and what do you weigh? And where abouts do
> > you live?
>
> Hey, we're only talking about recumbents here, I'm not looking for a date.
> :-)
"gotbent" lives here: <http://tinyurl.com/2vegt8 >.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 17:51:28
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 14, 10:54 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in messagenews:1173836273.491266.283600@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...>
On 11, 9:36 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense? What
> >> a fucking idiot you are!
>
> > In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There is
> > even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
>
> I am not familiar with "focking," but the substitute that I am familiar with
> is "freaking." However, it does not make much sense to fool around with
> substitutes here on ARBR since we all male slobs who truly deserve one
> another. Nope, "fucking" will do just fine when it is called for which it
> often is where you are concerned.
"Focking" is no less rude than "fucking", but more humorous; therefore
the preferred usage on Usenet.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 09:45:19
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1174438288.504644.109630@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On 14, 10:54 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in
>> messagenews:1173836273.491266.283600@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...>
> On 11, 9:36 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense?
>> >> What
>> >> a fucking idiot you are!
>>
>> > In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There is
>> > even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
>>
>> I am not familiar with "focking," but the substitute that I am familiar
>> with
>> is "freaking." However, it does not make much sense to fool around with
>> substitutes here on ARBR since we all male slobs who truly deserve one
>> another. Nope, "fucking" will do just fine when it is called for which it
>> often is where you are concerned.
>
> "Focking" is no less rude than "fucking", but more humorous; therefore
> the preferred usage on Usenet.
Nope, unlike you, I like to be crystal clear in what I mean. There are any
number of folks who will not know what is meant by "focking" whereas
everyone in the known universe will know exactly what is meant by "fucking,"
even one so dimwitted as you. After all, I am a student of the proverbial
'Slugger' and similar sleazeballs who infest this newsgroup like the plague.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 18:37:58
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 11, 9:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net > wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1173624966.735173.173380@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 11, 7:00 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> >> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1173550114.548186.47230@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> >> ...
> >> >> > What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
> >> >> > subject (to the point of having done original research and
> >> >> > publishing
> >> >> > a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of
> >> >> > relevant
> >> >> > and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
> >> >> > putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory
> >> >> > and/or
> >> >> > sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
> >> >> > moderation" newsgroup?
>
> >> Of course he would! That is what moderation is all about.
>
> >> >> > Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
>
> >> The above rek is directed to and about Me, the Great Ed Dolan. That
> >> goes
> >> without saying, but I say it anyway for all the idiots and morons who
> >> infest
> >> this group....
>
> > Nonsense. Has Mr. Ed Dolan ever done original research on a cycling
> > topic and published a book on the subject? If so, it has certainly
> > escaped my attention.
>
> The Great Ed Dolan is a genius and never needs to post anything to so
> disreputable a group as ARBR to prove anything. Only midgets and dwarfs like
> Mr. Sherman need to do that.
>
> The person does exist, but has never (to the
>
> > best of my knowledge) posted with alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent being the
> > priy newsgroup.
>
> Well, I give you Mr. Robert Bryant of RCN who knows more about recumbents
> than all the rest of us put together.
To prevent any misunderstanding, let me point out that Bob Bryant HAS
posted messages directly to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent in the past,
and HAS NOT been a bully or put down those he disagrees with in an
acerbic, derogatory and/or sarcastic manner.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the G[rate] - Minnesota
> aka
> [Mr.] Ed[] the G[rate] - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > GHAWAR IS DYING!
>
> PS. What is GHAWAR?
Anyone who claims to be concerned with preventing anti US terrorist
attacks above all else OUGHT to know what Ghawar is. Sheesh!
> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense? What a
> fucking idiot you are!
In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There is
even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
GHAWAR IS DYING!
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 22:54:54
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173836273.491266.283600@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On 11, 9:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense? What
>> a fucking idiot you are!
>
> In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There is
> even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
I am not familiar with "focking," but the substitute that I am familiar with
is "freaking." However, it does not make much sense to fool around with
substitutes here on ARBR since we all male slobs who truly deserve one
another. Nope, "fucking" will do just fine when it is called for which it
often is where you are concerned.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 21:35:35
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173836273.491266.283600@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On 11, 9:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1173624966.735173.173380@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 11, 7:00 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> >> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1173550114.548186.47230@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> >> ...
>> >> >> > What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
>> >> >> > subject (to the point of having done original research and
>> >> >> > publishing
>> >> >> > a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of
>> >> >> > relevant
>> >> >> > and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a
>> >> >> > bully,
>> >> >> > putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory
>> >> >> > and/or
>> >> >> > sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
>> >> >> > moderation" newsgroup?
>>
>> >> Of course he would! That is what moderation is all about.
>>
>> >> >> > Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
>>
>> >> The above rek is directed to and about Me, the Great Ed Dolan. That
>> >> goes
>> >> without saying, but I say it anyway for all the idiots and morons who
>> >> infest
>> >> this group....
>>
>> > Nonsense. Has Mr. Ed Dolan ever done original research on a cycling
>> > topic and published a book on the subject? If so, it has certainly
>> > escaped my attention.
>>
>> The Great Ed Dolan is a genius and never needs to post anything to so
>> disreputable a group as ARBR to prove anything. Only midgets and dwarfs
>> like
>> Mr. Sherman need to do that.
>>
>> The person does exist, but has never (to the
>>
>> > best of my knowledge) posted with alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent being the
>> > priy newsgroup.
>>
>> Well, I give you Mr. Robert Bryant of RCN who knows more about recumbents
>> than all the rest of us put together.
>
> To prevent any misunderstanding, let me point out that Bob Bryant HAS
> posted messages directly to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent in the past,
> and HAS NOT been a bully or put down those he disagrees with in an
> acerbic, derogatory and/or sarcastic manner.
Well Hells Bells, if he posted like I did he would soon be out of business
with his RCN. It is overpriced as it is and he does not need the kind of
grief ARBR would bring to it. Indeed, he is well-advised to stay the hell
off of this most disreputable newsgroup if he wants to keep RCN a going
concern.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the G[rate] - Minnesota
>> aka
>> [Mr.] Ed[] the G[rate] - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>> > GHAWAR IS DYING!
>>
>> PS. What is GHAWAR?
>
> Anyone who claims to be concerned with preventing anti US terrorist
> attacks above all else OUGHT to know what Ghawar is. Sheesh!
I stopped learning new shit over 40 years ago. It is only mental midgets and
dwarfs like Mr. Sherman who feel the need to be engaged in lifelong
learning. Hell, if I were a clutz like him, I would want to keep on learning
too, but since I am Great I do not need to.
>> PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense? What
>> a
>> fucking idiot you are!
>
> In this part of the world, we prefer the spelling "Focking". There is
> even a locally made and sold "Focktoberfest" beer.
The artful dodger strikes again!
Mr. Sherman has never in his long history on this newsgroup ever had a
signature that was intelligent or indeed even made any sense. That is
because he is witless and artless. He should model himself after Ed Dolan
the Great who has always had the best signature of anyone ever to post to
Usenet.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 07:56:06
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 11, 7:00 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1173550114.548186.47230@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> ...
> >> > What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
> >> > subject (to the point of having done original research and publishing
> >> > a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of relevant
> >> > and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
> >> > putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory and/or
> >> > sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
> >> > moderation" newsgroup?
>
> Of course he would! That is what moderation is all about.
>
> >> > Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
>
> The above rek is directed to and about Me, the Great Ed Dolan. That goes
> without saying, but I say it anyway for all the idiots and morons who infest
> this group....
Nonsense. Has Mr. Ed Dolan ever done original research on a cycling
topic and published a book on the subject? If so, it has certainly
escaped my attention. The person does exist, but has never (to the
best of my knowledge) posted with alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent being the
priy newsgroup.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
GHAWAR IS DYING!
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 21:36:03
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173624966.735173.173380@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> On 11, 7:00 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1173550114.548186.47230@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> ...
>> >> > What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
>> >> > subject (to the point of having done original research and
>> >> > publishing
>> >> > a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of
>> >> > relevant
>> >> > and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
>> >> > putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory
>> >> > and/or
>> >> > sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
>> >> > moderation" newsgroup?
>>
>> Of course he would! That is what moderation is all about.
>>
>> >> > Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
>>
>> The above rek is directed to and about Me, the Great Ed Dolan. That
>> goes
>> without saying, but I say it anyway for all the idiots and morons who
>> infest
>> this group....
>
> Nonsense. Has Mr. Ed Dolan ever done original research on a cycling
> topic and published a book on the subject? If so, it has certainly
> escaped my attention.
The Great Ed Dolan is a genius and never needs to post anything to so
disreputable a group as ARBR to prove anything. Only midgets and dwarfs like
Mr. Sherman need to do that.
The person does exist, but has never (to the
> best of my knowledge) posted with alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent being the
> priy newsgroup.
Well, I give you Mr. Robert Bryant of RCN who knows more about recumbents
than all the rest of us put together.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> GHAWAR IS DYING!
PS. What is GHAWAR?
PS2. Why the hell can't you craft a signature that makes some sense? What a
fucking idiot you are!
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 07:39:16
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Buck" <SPAMTRAPian@trikesandstuff.DOTco.DOTuk > wrote in message
news:2007030808090475249-SPAMTRAPian@trikesandstuffDOTcoDOTuk...
>I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
>group is dead.
>
> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls and
> the spam.
>
> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject lines
> at any one time,
> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
The sooner you get your moderated group up and running, the better. I can't
wait to be rid of you and your ilk. You do nothing but whine and bitch about
ARBR, never posting any worthwhile messages of your own which might
alleviate the tedium. The sooner you are gone, the better!
Good riddance to bad rubbish as we used to say here in the Upper Midwest
when I was a kid.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 10:08:34
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 10, 11:18 am, Joel <joelw135atcomcast.net > wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>
> > On 10, 7:59 am, "Jeff Grippe" <j...@door7.com> wrote:
> >>>> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
> >>>> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
> >>>> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
> >>>> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
> >>>> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
> >>>> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
> >>> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
> >>> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
> >>> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
> >>> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
> >>> example.
> >>> You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
> >>> of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
> >>> 4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
> >>> Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
> >>> 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
> >>> combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
> >>> would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
> >>> group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
> >>> responses.
> >> Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
> >> others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves to
> >> obfuscate.
>
> >> "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry list)
> >> in order to bait other users into responding"
>
> >> All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post something that
> >> is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or engaging
> >> in troll like behavior.
>
> >> But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence and
> >> ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a lowracer is
> >> not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would use
> >> ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with some
> >> rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political views,
> >> or gender. Then you've trolled.
>
> > What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
> > subject (to the point of having done original research and publishing
> > a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of relevant
> > and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
> > putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory and/or
> > sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
> > moderation" newsgroup?
>
> > Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
>
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > POST FREE OR DIE!
>
> Personally I don't care who he or she is and how much they know. I would
> expect that they should and must follow proper decorum as everyone else.
And who is the final arbiter on proper decorum, and how can you
determine proper decorum in an objective manner free of personal bias?
> Let's face it, there are rude and abusive people everywhere, but that
> doesn't mean that we have to accept that form of behavior. BROL is
> moderated and it works very well, what makes this any different?
BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators that boil
down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have a 'time
out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
> I believe in free speech!
But apparently not on discussion forums.
> But how you use that right depends on each
> individual case. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me but I
> don't have to take verbal abuse, and neither should anyone else.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I really do
think you would be better off on BROL, where the moderators will
protect you from unpleasantness.
If someone wants to be verbally abusive to me on Usenet, I say "Bring
it On!"
The only rule that needs to be adhered to is, "What happens on Usenet
stays on Usenet".
The solution to trolls is more on-topic discussion, not whining about
the troll.
It seems most recumbent cyclists are not able or willing to stick up
for themselves, and have (or wish to) run to the protection of nanny
moderators.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 11:59:02
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Troll food
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:::: BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators that
:: boil down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have a
:: 'time out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
I started using BROL last November. In that time, I've not seen one post
such as described here.
The fact is, some just wish to provide troll food. To each their own.
Filters work great, ram is cheap, and computers are really fast. A full
kill-file doesn't impede preformance one bit.
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 15:18:37
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
> :::: BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators that
> :: boil down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have a
> :: 'time out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
>
> I started using BROL last November. In that time, I've not seen one post
> such as described here.
>
> The fact is, some just wish to provide troll food. To each their own.
> Filters work great, ram is cheap, and computers are really fast. A full
> kill-file doesn't impede preformance one bit.
>
Roger, haven't you noticed the locked threads on BROL and the threads that
just disappear? I mean they just focking disappear. An innocent thread that
mentioned Jane Fonda and her Barbarella costume It happens and Mr. Bipolar
himself writes scolding missives to the Stepford Wives to behave or else!
Jeezus man don't you see what happens there? I guess not, because from the
tone of your scolding post here you're one of the ones who puts lip bruises
all over Bryan's ass. You gotta stop suckin up. How's he 'sposed to cram his
ass into his speed liner and go fast at Casa Grande with those bruises?
To be brutally honest, no one here really cares about your stupid kill
filters or your vain attempts to add a layer of censorship. You seem like
those fockking drama queens who have to announce that they are fed up and
are leaving the place. But no one cares. In fact I hope Ed answers your
nonsense and chews you a new asshole, because the one you have now is
plugged up with your head.
Getting back on topic: I took the trikeout for a ride today. The weather was
wonderful. A harbinger of real springtime. I am glad I bought a trike with
suspension, because the route was crap, having suffered the ravages of
winter and the suspension made the ride actually pleasant.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 07:32:38
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Troll food
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gotbent wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
:: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
::::::: BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators
::::::: that
::::: boil down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have
::::: a 'time out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
:::
::: I started using BROL last November. In that time, I've not seen
::: one post such as described here.
:::
::: The fact is, some just wish to provide troll food. To each their
::: own. Filters work great, ram is cheap, and computers are really
::: fast. A full kill-file doesn't impede preformance one bit.
:::
::
:: Roger, haven't you noticed the locked threads on BROL and the
:: threads that just disappear?
No, but I have seen some that appear to have been withdrawn by the poster.
I mean they just focking disappear. An
:: innocent thread that mentioned Jane Fonda and her Barbarella costume
That would have been a fun read!
:: It happens and Mr. Bipolar himself writes scolding missives to the
:: Stepford Wives to behave or else!
Dude....get a life!
Jeezus man don't you see what
:: happens there? I guess not, because from the tone of your scolding
:: post here you're one of the ones who puts lip bruises all over
:: Bryan's ass. You gotta stop suckin up. How's he 'sposed to cram his
:: ass into his speed liner and go fast at Casa Grande with those
:: bruises?
I see why you like usenet so much....
::
:: To be brutally honest, no one here really cares about your stupid
:: kill filters or your vain attempts to add a layer of censorship.
Are you sick? Run out of $$ to pay for meds?
You
:: seem like those fockking drama queens who have to announce that they
:: are fed up and are leaving the place.
Drama queen? It seems to be that you're the drama queen between the two of
us!
But no one cares. In fact I
:: hope Ed answers your nonsense and chews you a new asshole, because
:: the one you have now is plugged up with your head.
Please....I don't read this shit....
::
:: Getting back on topic: I took the trikeout for a ride today. The
:: weather was wonderful. A harbinger of real springtime. I am glad I
:: bought a trike with suspension, because the route was crap, having
:: suffered the ravages of winter and the suspension made the ride
:: actually pleasant.
::
No wonder your ass is in a knot...You need to ride more, dude. And perhaps
you should stop bending over so much, too! :)
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 08:52:29
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
> gotbent wrote:
> :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
> ::::::: BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators
> ::::::: that
> ::::: boil down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have
> ::::: a 'time out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
> :::
> ::: I started using BROL last November. In that time, I've not seen
> ::: one post such as described here.
> :::
> ::: The fact is, some just wish to provide troll food. To each their
> ::: own. Filters work great, ram is cheap, and computers are really
> ::: fast. A full kill-file doesn't impede preformance one bit.
> :::
> ::
> :: Roger, haven't you noticed the locked threads on BROL and the
> :: threads that just disappear?
>
> No, but I have seen some that appear to have been withdrawn by the poster.
>
> I mean they just focking disappear. An
> :: innocent thread that mentioned Jane Fonda and her Barbarella costume
>
> That would have been a fun read!
>
> :: It happens and Mr. Bipolar himself writes scolding missives to the
> :: Stepford Wives to behave or else!
>
> Dude....get a life!
>
> Jeezus man don't you see what
> :: happens there? I guess not, because from the tone of your scolding
> :: post here you're one of the ones who puts lip bruises all over
> :: Bryan's ass. You gotta stop suckin up. How's he 'sposed to cram his
> :: ass into his speed liner and go fast at Casa Grande with those
> :: bruises?
>
> I see why you like usenet so much....
>
> ::
> :: To be brutally honest, no one here really cares about your stupid
> :: kill filters or your vain attempts to add a layer of censorship.
>
> Are you sick? Run out of $$ to pay for meds?
>
> You
> :: seem like those fockking drama queens who have to announce that they
> :: are fed up and are leaving the place.
>
> Drama queen? It seems to be that you're the drama queen between the two
> of us!
>
> But no one cares. In fact I
> :: hope Ed answers your nonsense and chews you a new asshole, because
> :: the one you have now is plugged up with your head.
>
> Please....I don't read this shit....
> ::
> :: Getting back on topic: I took the trikeout for a ride today. The
> :: weather was wonderful. A harbinger of real springtime. I am glad I
> :: bought a trike with suspension, because the route was crap, having
> :: suffered the ravages of winter and the suspension made the ride
> :: actually pleasant.
> ::
>
> No wonder your ass is in a knot...You need to ride more, dude. And
> perhaps you should stop bending over so much, too! :)
>
Roger, I apologize for going extremely overboard and the flame I shot at
you. It was uncalled for and crude. I get that way sometimes when my blood
glucose gets out of whack, but that is not much of an excuse for being so
churlish.
This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off putting language
is no way to entice more participation.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 03:48:58
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"gotbent" <gotbents@spamtrap.com > wrote in message
news:45fa949d$0$6888$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
[...]
> Roger, I apologize for going extremely overboard and the flame I shot at
> you. It was uncalled for and crude. I get that way sometimes when my blood
> glucose gets out of whack, but that is not much of an excuse for being so
> churlish.
>
> This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off putting
> language is no way to entice more participation.
Never apologize son ... it is a sign of weakness. Especially do not
apologize to an asshole like Roger Zoul. It would be better to die than to
do that!
Leave assholes like him to me. I know how to skewer these types and you do
not have a clue. But still, your original message where you took him to task
was not bad at all. I respect you for it.
Roger Zoul is an execrable kill-filer who does not like a free and
unfettered newsgroup like ARBR. Screw him and his ilk all the way to hell
and back! Imagine a twerp like him ever shutting up a Great One like Me!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:05:42
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:YZ6dnSbCdvRCNmbYnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> Never apologize son ... it is a sign of weakness.
Always apologize son. To deny your faults is supreme arrogance and a far
greater weakness.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 06:40:54
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote in message
news:12vp440t3m0gfdf@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:YZ6dnSbCdvRCNmbYnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> Never apologize son ... it is a sign of weakness.
>
> Always apologize son. To deny your faults is supreme arrogance and a far
> greater weakness.
You obviously are not familiar with the code of the cowboy. I suggest you
immediately see all of John Wayne's movies (this will take some time as he
made hundreds of them) in order to get up to speed on what it is to be a
man. I urge you to give up your effete Eastern ways and become a lout like
all of us true Westerners.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 16:13:21
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
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I'm already a Ninja, isn't that enough?
If it isn't enough well then by god, I'm a top poster too!
Ninjas kick cowboy ass. The cowboys would never see it coming. Sure they've
got guns but if they die with the guns still in holsters what good did it do
them?
Jeff
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:s_2dnVIT38syVWLYnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com> wrote in message
> news:12vp440t3m0gfdf@news.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:YZ6dnSbCdvRCNmbYnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>
>>> Never apologize son ... it is a sign of weakness.
>>
>> Always apologize son. To deny your faults is supreme arrogance and a far
>> greater weakness.
>
> You obviously are not familiar with the code of the cowboy. I suggest you
> immediately see all of John Wayne's movies (this will take some time as he
> made hundreds of them) in order to get up to speed on what it is to be a
> man. I urge you to give up your effete Eastern ways and become a lout
> like all of us true Westerners.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 10:10:47
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote in message
news:13034gefr7su0d0@news.supernews.com...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> I'm already a Ninja, isn't that enough?
>
> If it isn't enough well then by god, I'm a top poster too!
>
> Ninjas kick cowboy ass. The cowboys would never see it coming. Sure
> they've got guns but if they die with the guns still in holsters what good
> did it do them?
Nothing good ever came out of the East. India is rife with religions and yet
they do not see anything wrong with letting people starve in the streets.
Well, that is the East for you.
At least the Jews always had some minimum morality, even if it can't hold a
candle to Christian morality. Christianity, by the way, is the only religion
that is capable of ever becoming the universal religion of all mankind. The
Muslims are essentially barbarians in every way imaginable. But I just love
this Christian tolerance for Muslims when all they ever want to do is to
kill anyone who is not a Muslim.
But I am sure Jeff Grippe does not mind if Muslims want to kill Jews. Hells
Bells, he probably thinks Jews deserve to be killed for daring to trespass
on Muslim lands. What is truly amazing is the Jewish rejection of the
Christian evangelical support for them. Folks, you do not get any stupider
than that. A dumb Jew is as dumb as it is possible for any human being to
get.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>> "Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com> wrote in message
>> news:12vp440t3m0gfdf@news.supernews.com...
>>>
>>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>>> news:YZ6dnSbCdvRCNmbYnZ2dnUVZ_r6vnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>>
>>>> Never apologize son ... it is a sign of weakness.
>>>
>>> Always apologize son. To deny your faults is supreme arrogance and a far
>>> greater weakness.
>>
>> You obviously are not familiar with the code of the cowboy. I suggest you
>> immediately see all of John Wayne's movies (this will take some time as
>> he made hundreds of them) in order to get up to speed on what it is to be
>> a man. I urge you to give up your effete Eastern ways and become a lout
>> like all of us true Westerners.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 11:32:40
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:6e-dnQ0jsrn5c57bnZ2dnUVZ_u-unZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> A dumb Jew is as dumb as it is possible for any human being to get.
>
Wow! This statement proves itself wrong. I need to do nothing more than call
attention to it.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 10:52:55
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote in message
news:1307sq5h3e9dhce@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:6e-dnQ0jsrn5c57bnZ2dnUVZ_u-unZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> A dumb Jew is as dumb as it is possible for any human being to get.
>>
>
> Wow! This statement proves itself wrong. I need to do nothing more than
> call attention to it.
When you do an aside about ninjas, I will do an aside about st ass New
York Jews like you who do not defend your religion and do not defend the
State of Israel. There is nothing more contemptible in this world than a Jew
who will not defend his religion and stand up for Israel.
But Jeff Grippe is a coward as he proves every time he does not quote me in
full. I do not go on and on in my messages like some idiots do, so there is
never any excuse for not quoting me in full.
Here is the complete message which Jeff Grippe should have quoted:
Jeff Grippe worte:
> I'm already a Ninja, isn't that enough?
>
> If it isn't enough well then by god, I'm a top poster too!
>
> Ninjas kick cowboy ass. The cowboys would never see it coming. Sure
> they've got guns but if they die with the guns still in holsters what good
> did it do them?
Edward Dolan wrote:
>Nothing good ever came out of the East. India is rife with religions and
>yet
they do not see anything wrong with letting people starve in the streets.
Well, that is the East for you.
At least the Jews always had some minimum morality, even if it can't hold a
candle to Christian morality. Christianity, by the way, is the only religion
that is capable of ever becoming the universal religion of all mankind. The
Muslims are essentially barbarians in every way imaginable. But I just love
this Christian tolerance for Muslims when all they ever want to do is to
kill anyone who is not a Muslim.
But I am sure Jeff Grippe does not mind if Muslims want to kill Jews. Hells
Bells, he probably thinks Jews deserve to be killed for daring to trespass
on Muslim lands. What is truly amazing is the Jewish rejection of the
Christian evangelical support for them. Folks, you do not get any stupider
than that. A dumb Jew is as dumb as it is possible for any human being to
get.
I would like to ask Jeff Grippe how do you get to be such a coward? Were you
born that way or did you have to learn it?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 13:59:31
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:-v2dndTzVtfYZZ7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> When you do an aside about ninjas, I will do an aside about st ass New
> York Jews like you...blah blah blah...aka <snip>
That's fine Ed, just do a better job of it.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 13:21:40
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote in message
news:13085dlme8tg7fd@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:-v2dndTzVtfYZZ7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> When you do an aside about ninjas, I will do an aside about st ass New
>> York Jews like you...blah blah blah...aka <snip>
>
> That's fine Ed, just do a better job of it.
Why respond to anything I write since you do not have the common decency to
properly quote me, you god damn simple asshole! Fuck you all the way to Hell
and back! Go join your fellow asshole Curtis Russell and do not bother me
ever again with your nonsensical posts.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 13:11:21
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote in message
news:13085dlme8tg7fd@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:-v2dndTzVtfYZZ7bnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> When you do an aside about ninjas, I will do an aside about st ass New
>> York Jews like you...blah blah blah...aka <snip>
>
> That's fine Ed, just do a better job of it.
Yup, fuck you too!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 12:52:55
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On Fri, 23 2007 11:32:40 -0400, "Jeff Grippe"
<jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote:
>> A dumb Jew is as dumb as it is possible for any human being to get.
>>
>
>Wow! This statement proves itself wrong. I need to do nothing more than call
>attention to it.
Now, don't pick on an old man, scared of dying, no matter how
reprehensible his comments have become. This could happen to anyone
that has no friends or family left. He's regressing - this is the same
as the average 6 yo trying to get a response from adults.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 11:11:42
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Curtis L. Russell" <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote in message
news:a818035lrghcruebsarlv7smg3i1eqqgmh@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 23 2007 11:32:40 -0400, "Jeff Grippe"
> <jgrippe@hilldun.com> wrote:
>
>>> A dumb Jew is as dumb as it is possible for any human being to get.
>>>
>>
>>Wow! This statement proves itself wrong. I need to do nothing more than
>>call
>>attention to it.
>
> Now, don't pick on an old man, scared of dying, no matter how
> reprehensible his comments have become. This could happen to anyone
> that has no friends or family left. He's regressing - this is the same
> as the average 6 yo trying to get a response from adults.
Here is Curtis Russell pretending to be wise. Of course, he is as dumb as a
stake. He proves that every time he posts anything to this newsgroup.
But more important than his dumbness is his cowardice. He is afraid to quote
me in any of his messages. Instead, he likes to commiserate with another
dumbbell by the name of Jeff Grippe. Well dumbbells always have two poles,
don't they?
Curtis Russell is going to die just as surely as any other creature who has
ever lived. Jeff has already come close to dying, so I don't have to explain
this to him. But Curtis Russell is an asshole supreme and a coward besides.
But let's face it, have you ever known anyone from yland who was not an
asshole. That whole state is fucked up and always has been. It is basically
just an annex to Washington, DC. Fuck him and all his ilk!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 17:29:52
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
On Wed, 21 2007 16:13:21 -0400, "Jeff Grippe"
<jgrippe@hilldun.com > wrote:
>I'm already a Ninja, isn't that enough?
>
>If it isn't enough well then by god, I'm a top poster too!
>
>Ninjas kick cowboy ass. The cowboys would never see it coming. Sure they've
>got guns but if they die with the guns still in holsters what good did it do
>them?
>
>Jeff
Interestingly, John Wayne made the comment, "Never apologize, it's a
sign of weakness' in one of the Ford movies in the middle of his long
career ("She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Nathan Brittles), but he apologizes
in his last movie, The Shootist, to Lauren Bacall. So even John Wayne
doesn't really pay attention to the line in one of his five best roles
(as was Nathan Brittles IMO and in balance).
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 10:27:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Curtis L. Russell" <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote in message
news:4783035hsn0vcq0g79k778bgpehlq92bs5@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 2007 16:13:21 -0400, "Jeff Grippe"
> <jgrippe@hilldun.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm already a Ninja, isn't that enough?
>>
>>If it isn't enough well then by god, I'm a top poster too!
>>
>>Ninjas kick cowboy ass. The cowboys would never see it coming. Sure
>>they've
>>got guns but if they die with the guns still in holsters what good did it
>>do
>>them?
>>
>>Jeff
>
> Interestingly, John Wayne made the comment, "Never apologize, it's a
> sign of weakness' in one of the Ford movies in the middle of his long
> career ("She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Nathan Brittles), but he apologizes
> in his last movie, The Shootist, to Lauren Bacall. So even John Wayne
> doesn't really pay attention to the line in one of his five best roles
> (as was Nathan Brittles IMO and in balance).
Actually, the only good movie John Wayne ever made in his life was that last
one, "The Shootist." All his other movies were nothing but pure good old
American crap. "The Quiet Man" was not bad either come to think of it, even
though it played on every Irish stereotype in existence.
It amuses me how Curtis Russell of Odenton, yland is too frightened to
even quote any of my message. Of all the vices, cowardice is the greatest.
At least Jeff Grippe will put my message at the bottom of his. He is only
half a coward.
I urge one and all to observe the posts of Tom Sherman. He has forever been
correct in the form of his posts to this newsgroup. He edits too severely,
but that is his only fault.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 13:50:03
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
gotbent wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
:: news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
::: gotbent wrote:
::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
::::: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
:::::::::: BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators
:::::::::: that
:::::::: boil down to "now children, behave better or we will have to
:::::::: have a 'time out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
::::::
:::::: I started using BROL last November. In that time, I've not seen
:::::: one post such as described here.
::::::
:::::: The fact is, some just wish to provide troll food. To each their
:::::: own. Filters work great, ram is cheap, and computers are really
:::::: fast. A full kill-file doesn't impede preformance one bit.
::::::
:::::
::::: Roger, haven't you noticed the locked threads on BROL and the
::::: threads that just disappear?
:::
::: No, but I have seen some that appear to have been withdrawn by the
::: poster.
:::
::: I mean they just focking disappear. An
::::: innocent thread that mentioned Jane Fonda and her Barbarella
::::: costume
:::
::: That would have been a fun read!
:::
::::: It happens and Mr. Bipolar himself writes scolding missives to the
::::: Stepford Wives to behave or else!
:::
::: Dude....get a life!
:::
::: Jeezus man don't you see what
::::: happens there? I guess not, because from the tone of your scolding
::::: post here you're one of the ones who puts lip bruises all over
::::: Bryan's ass. You gotta stop suckin up. How's he 'sposed to cram
::::: his ass into his speed liner and go fast at Casa Grande with those
::::: bruises?
:::
::: I see why you like usenet so much....
:::
:::::
::::: To be brutally honest, no one here really cares about your stupid
::::: kill filters or your vain attempts to add a layer of censorship.
:::
::: Are you sick? Run out of $$ to pay for meds?
:::
::: You
::::: seem like those fockking drama queens who have to announce that
::::: they are fed up and are leaving the place.
:::
::: Drama queen? It seems to be that you're the drama queen between
::: the two of us!
:::
::: But no one cares. In fact I
::::: hope Ed answers your nonsense and chews you a new asshole, because
::::: the one you have now is plugged up with your head.
:::
::: Please....I don't read this shit....
:::::
::::: Getting back on topic: I took the trikeout for a ride today. The
::::: weather was wonderful. A harbinger of real springtime. I am glad I
::::: bought a trike with suspension, because the route was crap, having
::::: suffered the ravages of winter and the suspension made the ride
::::: actually pleasant.
:::::
:::
::: No wonder your ass is in a knot...You need to ride more, dude. And
::: perhaps you should stop bending over so much, too! :)
:::
::
:: Roger, I apologize for going extremely overboard and the flame I
:: shot at you. It was uncalled for and crude. I get that way sometimes
:: when my blood glucose gets out of whack, but that is not much of an
:: excuse for being so churlish.
Hey, no problem, man. I don't take usenet stuff personally, anyway. In
fact, I consider insults to be part of the territory on usenet. I certainly
hurl enough of them myself. I give as well as I take! :)
::
:: This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off putting
:: language is no way to entice more participation.
::
True. We do share a common bond, don't we!
So, are you riding this weekend? I've been getting around 60 miles on
Saturdays, but I won't tomorrow (travel). Perhaps I'll get them in on
Sunday.
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 13:23:40
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:12vlm6ek92h9u92@news.supernews.com...
> gotbent wrote:
> :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :: news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
> ::: gotbent wrote:
> ::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> ::::: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
snippage
>
> ::
> :: This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off putting
> :: language is no way to entice more participation.
> ::
>
> True. We do share a common bond, don't we!
>
> So, are you riding this weekend? I've been getting around 60 miles on
> Saturdays, but I won't tomorrow (travel). Perhaps I'll get them in on
> Sunday.
>
I'm just a fat old guy and sixty mile rides are something I fondly remember
doing in the distant past. While my mind is willing the body isn't quite up
to the task anymore. Beside in these parts it's still mostly frigid and
buying enough hand/foot warmers to completely cover my body with chemical
heaters would deplete the 'daddy needs new Stelvios' fund.
I might get out and endure the wonders of global warming for a half hour or
fortyfive minutes to have an excuse to not ride the trainer and further
damage my brain due to excessive exposure to daytime t.v. Frozen extremeties
are preferable to dead brain cells.
--
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 15:27:01
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
gotbent wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
:: news:12vlm6ek92h9u92@news.supernews.com...
::: gotbent wrote:
::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
::::: news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
:::::: gotbent wrote:
:::::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
:::::::: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
:: snippage
:::
:::::
::::: This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off putting
::::: language is no way to entice more participation.
:::::
:::
::: True. We do share a common bond, don't we!
:::
::: So, are you riding this weekend? I've been getting around 60 miles
::: on Saturdays, but I won't tomorrow (travel). Perhaps I'll get them
::: in on Sunday.
:::
::
:: I'm just a fat old guy and sixty mile rides are something I fondly
:: remember doing in the distant past. While my mind is willing the
:: body isn't quite up to the task anymore. Beside in these parts it's
:: still mostly frigid and buying enough hand/foot warmers to
:: completely cover my body with chemical heaters would deplete the
:: 'daddy needs new Stelvios' fund.
::
:: I might get out and endure the wonders of global warming for a half
:: hour or fortyfive minutes to have an excuse to not ride the trainer
:: and further damage my brain due to excessive exposure to daytime
:: t.v. Frozen extremeties are preferable to dead brain cells.
I'm curious. How old are you and what do you weigh? And where abouts do you
live?
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 16:54:47
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:12vlrs7tekuqp4b@news.supernews.com...
> gotbent wrote:
> :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :: news:12vlm6ek92h9u92@news.supernews.com...
> ::: gotbent wrote:
> ::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> ::::: news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
> :::::: gotbent wrote:
> :::::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :::::::: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
> :: snippage
> :::
> :::::
> ::::: This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off putting
> ::::: language is no way to entice more participation.
> :::::
> :::
> ::: True. We do share a common bond, don't we!
> :::
> ::: So, are you riding this weekend? I've been getting around 60 miles
> ::: on Saturdays, but I won't tomorrow (travel). Perhaps I'll get them
> ::: in on Sunday.
> :::
> ::
> :: I'm just a fat old guy and sixty mile rides are something I fondly
> :: remember doing in the distant past. While my mind is willing the
> :: body isn't quite up to the task anymore. Beside in these parts it's
> :: still mostly frigid and buying enough hand/foot warmers to
> :: completely cover my body with chemical heaters would deplete the
> :: 'daddy needs new Stelvios' fund.
> ::
> :: I might get out and endure the wonders of global warming for a half
> :: hour or fortyfive minutes to have an excuse to not ride the trainer
> :: and further damage my brain due to excessive exposure to daytime
> :: t.v. Frozen extremeties are preferable to dead brain cells.
>
> I'm curious. How old are you and what do you weigh? And where abouts do
> you live?
>
>
Hey, we're only talking about recumbents here, I'm not looking for a date.
:-)
--
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 19:38:36
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
gotbent wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
:: news:12vlrs7tekuqp4b@news.supernews.com...
::: gotbent wrote:
::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
::::: news:12vlm6ek92h9u92@news.supernews.com...
:::::: gotbent wrote:
:::::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
:::::::: news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
::::::::: gotbent wrote:
::::::::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
::::::::::: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
::::: snippage
::::::
::::::::
:::::::: This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off
:::::::: putting language is no way to entice more participation.
::::::::
::::::
:::::: True. We do share a common bond, don't we!
::::::
:::::: So, are you riding this weekend? I've been getting around 60
:::::: miles on Saturdays, but I won't tomorrow (travel). Perhaps I'll
:::::: get them in on Sunday.
::::::
:::::
::::: I'm just a fat old guy and sixty mile rides are something I fondly
::::: remember doing in the distant past. While my mind is willing the
::::: body isn't quite up to the task anymore. Beside in these parts
::::: it's still mostly frigid and buying enough hand/foot warmers to
::::: completely cover my body with chemical heaters would deplete the
::::: 'daddy needs new Stelvios' fund.
:::::
::::: I might get out and endure the wonders of global warming for a
::::: half hour or fortyfive minutes to have an excuse to not ride the
::::: trainer and further damage my brain due to excessive exposure to
::::: daytime t.v. Frozen extremeties are preferable to dead brain
::::: cells.
:::
::: I'm curious. How old are you and what do you weigh? And where
::: abouts do you live?
:::
:::
:: Hey, we're only talking about recumbents here, I'm not looking for a
:: date. :-)
::
Me either. I have one! :)
Seriously, I don't see a lot of people my size (~225-235) who like to ride
long distance. I was just wondering how true that is. I think a lot of what
people may attribute to age and weight has more to do with life outlook,
etc. That's all I was fishing for.
::
::
:: --
:: Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 21:03:57
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
I'm in that ball park and only 5'6" and I've always ridden long distances
back in the days when I could ride. Metrc centuries were the idea length
for me. When I did the rail trails back in 2005, 40-45 miles seemed like a
good day.
I didn't go fast but I always could go far....
Jeff
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:12vmajvs3l1f345@news.supernews.com...
> gotbent wrote:
> :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :: news:12vlrs7tekuqp4b@news.supernews.com...
> ::: gotbent wrote:
> ::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> ::::: news:12vlm6ek92h9u92@news.supernews.com...
> :::::: gotbent wrote:
> :::::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :::::::: news:12viblfe0rkgp46@news.supernews.com...
> ::::::::: gotbent wrote:
> ::::::::::: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> ::::::::::: news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
> ::::: snippage
> ::::::
> ::::::::
> :::::::: This is, after all, a place to talk of recumbency, and off
> :::::::: putting language is no way to entice more participation.
> ::::::::
> ::::::
> :::::: True. We do share a common bond, don't we!
> ::::::
> :::::: So, are you riding this weekend? I've been getting around 60
> :::::: miles on Saturdays, but I won't tomorrow (travel). Perhaps I'll
> :::::: get them in on Sunday.
> ::::::
> :::::
> ::::: I'm just a fat old guy and sixty mile rides are something I fondly
> ::::: remember doing in the distant past. While my mind is willing the
> ::::: body isn't quite up to the task anymore. Beside in these parts
> ::::: it's still mostly frigid and buying enough hand/foot warmers to
> ::::: completely cover my body with chemical heaters would deplete the
> ::::: 'daddy needs new Stelvios' fund.
> :::::
> ::::: I might get out and endure the wonders of global warming for a
> ::::: half hour or fortyfive minutes to have an excuse to not ride the
> ::::: trainer and further damage my brain due to excessive exposure to
> ::::: daytime t.v. Frozen extremeties are preferable to dead brain
> ::::: cells.
> :::
> ::: I'm curious. How old are you and what do you weigh? And where
> ::: abouts do you live?
> :::
> :::
> :: Hey, we're only talking about recumbents here, I'm not looking for a
> :: date. :-)
> ::
>
> Me either. I have one! :)
>
> Seriously, I don't see a lot of people my size (~225-235) who like to ride
> long distance. I was just wondering how true that is. I think a lot of
> what people may attribute to age and weight has more to do with life
> outlook, etc. That's all I was fishing for.
>
> ::
> ::
> :: --
> :: Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 06:31:08
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote in message
news:12vp40ob8sv7c39@news.supernews.com...
> I'm in that ball park and only 5'6" and I've always ridden long distances
> back in the days when I could ride. Metric centuries were the ideal
> length for me. When I did the rail trails back in 2005, 40-45 miles seemed
> like a good day.
>
> I didn't go fast but I always could go far....
Jeff is right about what is a reasonable distance to cover in one day. I
have always hated centuries, but anywhere from 50 to 65 miles has always
seemed about right to me.
A century will take me about 10 to 12 hours to do. This includes many rest
stops and meals of course. Well, that is too much time to spend on a bike in
one day, even on a recumbent. A masochist I never was.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 22:07:13
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"gotbent" <gotbent@dontsendmail.com > wrote in message
news:45f6faa7$0$16292$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
> "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:12vdigv98vq7aee@news.supernews.com...
>> :::: BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators that
>> :: boil down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have a
>> :: 'time out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
>>
>> I started using BROL last November. In that time, I've not seen one post
>> such as described here.
>>
>> The fact is, some just wish to provide troll food. To each their own.
>> Filters work great, ram is cheap, and computers are really fast. A full
>> kill-file doesn't impede preformance one bit.
>>
>
> Roger, haven't you noticed the locked threads on BROL and the threads that
> just disappear? I mean they just focking disappear. An innocent thread
> that mentioned Jane Fonda and her Barbarella costume It happens and Mr.
> Bipolar himself writes scolding missives to the Stepford Wives to behave
> or else! Jeezus man don't you see what happens there? I guess not, because
> from the tone of your scolding post here you're one of the ones who puts
> lip bruises all over Bryan's ass. You gotta stop suckin up. How's he
> 'sposed to cram his ass into his speed liner and go fast at Casa Grande
> with those bruises?
>
> To be brutally honest, no one here really cares about your stupid kill
> filters or your vain attempts to add a layer of censorship. You seem like
> those fockking drama queens who have to announce that they are fed up and
> are leaving the place.
I have so far taken seven (7) final stormy farewells from ARBR with much
cursing and slamming of doors, and there will no doubt be many more to come.
After all, parting is such sweet sorrow that you want to do it as often as
possible.
But no one cares. In fact I hope Ed answers your
> nonsense and chews you a new asshole, because the one you have now is
> plugged up with your head.
Is it possible I have got an ally in Gotbent? I do agree with him and Tom
Sherman that we do not want ARBR to become a moderated forum, although I
have stated many times previously that a moderated forum is the ONLY way to
go if you want to be serious about anything.
ARBR is for fun and games and I know that is how Tom Sherman and Gotbent see
it too. We can occasionally be serious too, but that is not our forte. Since
any and all idiots can post to this forum we should never make the mistake
of taking ARBR seriously.
My rule of thumb with regard to this forum is to have some fun. In fact, if
you are not having any fun on ARBR, then you should leave. We are all older
men here and we do not need or want anyone to baby-sit us. We want to be
able to say whatever we want however we want and let the chips fall where
they may.
> Getting back on topic: I took the trikeout for a ride today. The weather
> was wonderful. A harbinger of real springtime. I am glad I bought a trike
> with suspension, because the route was crap, having suffered the ravages
> of winter and the suspension made the ride actually pleasant.
You should see the streets here in Worthington! They are all cracked up and
full of potholes, which will never be smooth again. It is why I am in favor
of low pressure klunker tires and don't care about going fast. Aye, the
world is full of messed up streets littered with potholes.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 11 Mar 2007 07:00:38
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173550114.548186.47230@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> On 10, 11:18 am, Joel <joelw135atcomcast.net> wrote:
>> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>>
>> > On 10, 7:59 am, "Jeff Grippe" <j...@door7.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
>> >>>> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own
>> >>>> tries
>> >>>> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better
>> >>>> yet
>> >>>> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory
>> >>>> or
>> >>>> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup
>> >>>> and/or
>> >>>> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
Nonsense! Idiots need to told that they are idiots. How else will they ever
find their proper place in life?
>> >>> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
>> >>> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
>> >>> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
>> >>> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
>> >>> example.
If I were the moderator of this newsgroup I assure you that none of you
would ever get any of your miserable messages posted so that anyone could
ever see them.
>> >>> You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
>> >>> of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to
>> >>> his
>> >>> 4th Avenue hovel".
Livingston Cellars Red Rose is the only wine in the universe that does not
give me a headache. I can drink gallons of it and it never effects me in the
slightest.
Anyone can live in a mansion with servants to take care of things. But it
takes genius like Me to live in this old house and survive the rigors of a
Minnesota winter.
There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
>> >>> Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
>> >>> 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the
>> >>> ideal
>> >>> combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
>> >>> would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
>> >>> group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
>> >>> responses.
>> >> Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
>> >> others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves
>> >> to
>> >> obfuscate.
Please do not use words like obfuscate as it will not be understood by 95%
of the denizens of this newsgroup.
>> >> "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry
>> >> list)
>> >> in order to bait other users into responding"
>>
>> >> All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post
>> >> something that
>> >> is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or
>> >> engaging
>> >> in troll like behavior.
Mr. Sherman posts all the time messages which make my blood pressure go
berserk. It doesn't matter what he says - my blood pressure goes sky high
every time I see his miserable signature. Peter Clinch of Dundee, Scotland
has a similar effect on me with that Medical Physics IT Officer shit.
>> >> But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence
>> >> and
>> >> ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a
>> >> lowracer is
>> >> not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would
>> >> use
>> >> ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with
>> >> some
>> >> rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political
>> >> views,
>> >> or gender. Then you've trolled.
Idiots and morons need to be told how they fit into the grand scheme of
things. There is nothing more pathetic in this world than an idiot who does
not know that he is an idiot. Well, that is what I am here for.
>> > What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
>> > subject (to the point of having done original research and publishing
>> > a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of relevant
>> > and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
>> > putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory and/or
>> > sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
>> > moderation" newsgroup?
Of course he would! That is what moderation is all about.
>> > Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
The above rek is directed to and about Me, the Great Ed Dolan. That goes
without saying, but I say it anyway for all the idiots and morons who infest
this group.
>> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>> > POST FREE OR DIE!
>>
>> Personally I don't care who he or she is and how much they know. I would
>> expect that they should and must follow proper decorum as everyone else.
Screw proper decorum all the way to Hell and back! It does not exist on any
newsgroup that is free and unmoderated like ARBR.
> And who is the final arbiter on proper decorum, and how can you
> determine proper decorum in an objective manner free of personal bias?
>
>> Let's face it, there are rude and abusive people everywhere, but that
>> doesn't mean that we have to accept that form of behavior. BROL is
>> moderated and it works very well, what makes this any different?
>
> BROL works well if you enjoy nanny posts from the moderators that boil
> down to "now children, behave better or we will have to have a 'time
> out' ". Do you miss elementary school?
>
>> I believe in free speech!
>
> But apparently not on discussion forums.
>
>> But how you use that right depends on each
>> individual case. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me but I
>> don't have to take verbal abuse, and neither should anyone else.
Yes, others like Joel only like to dish out verbal abuse, but they do not
like to take it. Such sissies ought to get to BROL and leave ARBR forever.
We need his type here like we need another hole in our heads.
> If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I really do
> think you would be better off on BROL, where the moderators will
> protect you from unpleasantness.
>
> If someone wants to be verbally abusive to me on Usenet, I say "Bring
> it On!"
>
> The only rule that needs to be adhered to is, "What happens on Usenet
> stays on Usenet".
>
> The solution to trolls is more on-topic discussion, not whining about
> the troll.
>
> It seems most recumbent cyclists are not able or willing to stick up
> for themselves, and have (or wish to) run to the protection of nanny
> moderators.
The above is very well said by Mr. Sherman and I agree with him 100%. Hells
Bells, it is no fun at all to observe proper decorum all the time. I am here
on ARBR to have some fun. What the rest of you are doing here alludes me
completely. If you are not having some fun like I am, then you are a fool
for being here.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 09:14:08
From:
Subject: Re: was Re: Troll food, now TOE-IN
|
gotbent wrote:
> Are the tie rods straight, as in not bent? Do you use blue Loc-Tite on the
> threads? If jam nuts are tight and the threads have Loc-Tite on them, there
> shouldn't be any change to toe-in unless the unobvious is happening. Loose
> king pin bearings, loose axle nuts, bent tie rods, worn Heim joints (ball
> joints...spherical ball ends), loose or worn headset bearings on the stem,
> etc.
>
> Can you post a link to a photo of your trike so we can get a better idea of
> the front end mechanism and geometry?
Everything is in ideal shape-both tie-rods are tight and straight, and
all 4 locks never loosen. I believe that it might be the folding
frame joints moving. One large attachment is the hinge, and the other
is similar to a stove bolt to hold it when swung out to ride. I
suspect that stove bolt might be moving. Being so new- it makes no
sense to me about worn or crooked parts that work fine one minute and
act up in a few more minutes.
When folded, the tie rods must be disconnected, so Loc-Tite is out!
The heim joints are attached with a bolt and butterfly nut for easy
removal when folding and rarely vibrates loose, and if so, a quick
twist is easy. I suspected them first, and tested them loose and
tight- same alignment. Just a mystery! Nice looking mystery though,
I think! ;-)
I have several factory photos of this trike, but only 2 of my trike
(which are useless for close-up front end mechanics). The factory web
site will probably have more photos- JM Recumbents (I do not have the
URL handy). On the site is a comment that this trike will be tested
by BROL. Someday!
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 12:56:48
From: Joel
Subject: Re: was Re: Troll food, now TOE-IN
|
eco_milage_buster_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> gotbent wrote:
>> Are the tie rods straight, as in not bent? Do you use blue Loc-Tite on the
>> threads? If jam nuts are tight and the threads have Loc-Tite on them, there
>> shouldn't be any change to toe-in unless the unobvious is happening. Loose
>> king pin bearings, loose axle nuts, bent tie rods, worn Heim joints (ball
>> joints...spherical ball ends), loose or worn headset bearings on the stem,
>> etc.
>>
>> Can you post a link to a photo of your trike so we can get a better idea of
>> the front end mechanism and geometry?
>
> Everything is in ideal shape-both tie-rods are tight and straight, and
> all 4 locks never loosen. I believe that it might be the folding
> frame joints moving. One large attachment is the hinge, and the other
> is similar to a stove bolt to hold it when swung out to ride. I
> suspect that stove bolt might be moving. Being so new- it makes no
> sense to me about worn or crooked parts that work fine one minute and
> act up in a few more minutes.
>
> When folded, the tie rods must be disconnected, so Loc-Tite is out!
> The heim joints are attached with a bolt and butterfly nut for easy
> removal when folding and rarely vibrates loose, and if so, a quick
> twist is easy. I suspected them first, and tested them loose and
> tight- same alignment. Just a mystery! Nice looking mystery though,
> I think! ;-)
>
> I have several factory photos of this trike, but only 2 of my trike
> (which are useless for close-up front end mechanics). The factory web
> site will probably have more photos- JM Recumbents (I do not have the
> URL handy). On the site is a comment that this trike will be tested
> by BROL. Someday!
>
I truly feel for you, I hate when things don't work as they should. It
is time to contact the builder of your trike for guidance. When I had
the induced vibration I went nuts finding what caused it.
Joel
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 08:38:30
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
On 10, 7:59 am, "Jeff Grippe" <j...@door7.com > wrote:
> >> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
> >> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
> >> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
> >> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
> >> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
> >> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
>
> > butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
> > over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
> > take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
> > sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
> > example.
>
> > You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
> > of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
> > 4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
> > Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
> > 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
> > combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
> > would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
> > group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
> > responses.
>
> Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
> others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves to
> obfuscate.
>
> "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry list)
> in order to bait other users into responding"
>
> All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post something that
> is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or engaging
> in troll like behavior.
>
> But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence and
> ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a lowracer is
> not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would use
> ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with some
> rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political views,
> or gender. Then you've trolled.
What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
subject (to the point of having done original research and publishing
a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of relevant
and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory and/or
sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
moderation" newsgroup?
Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 17:35:02
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
>
> What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
> subject (to the point of having done original research and publishing
> a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of relevant
> and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
> putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory and/or
> sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
> moderation" newsgroup?
>
Personally, I've never been for banning anyone. I think that ignoring the
trolls and keeping up the on-topic conversation is just fine. I don't know
anything about who would be banned from what.
What I do know is that if the person is a bully and is acerbic and
derogatory, then they are engaging in troll behavior.
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 12:18:19
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> On 10, 7:59 am, "Jeff Grippe" <j...@door7.com> wrote:
>>>> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
>>>> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
>>>> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
>>>> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
>>>> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
>>>> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
>>> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
>>> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
>>> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
>>> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
>>> example.
>>> You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
>>> of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
>>> 4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
>>> Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
>>> 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
>>> combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
>>> would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
>>> group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
>>> responses.
>> Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
>> others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves to
>> obfuscate.
>>
>> "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry list)
>> in order to bait other users into responding"
>>
>> All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post something that
>> is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or engaging
>> in troll like behavior.
>>
>> But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence and
>> ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a lowracer is
>> not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would use
>> ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with some
>> rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political views,
>> or gender. Then you've trolled.
>
> What if there was a poster who was a true expert on the newsgroup
> subject (to the point of having done original research and publishing
> a book on an important subtopic) who has posted thousands of relevant
> and useful posts. Yet this same poster can also turn into a bully,
> putting down those he disagrees with in an acerbic, derogatory and/or
> sarcastic manner. Would this person be banned from this "low
> moderation" newsgroup?
>
> Note: Any resemblance to a real life person is not coincidental.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!
>
Personally I don't care who he or she is and how much they know. I would
expect that they should and must follow proper decorum as everyone else.
Let's face it, there are rude and abusive people everywhere, but that
doesn't mean that we have to accept that form of behavior. BROL is
moderated and it works very well, what makes this any different? I
believe in free speech! But how you use that right depends on each
individual case. I don't care if someone doesn't agree with me but I
don't have to take verbal abuse, and neither should anyone else.
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 18:45:20
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
On 26, 8:26 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> ...Tom Sherman actually thinks Monty Python is funny....
[Cue Sousa's "Liberty Bell ch"]
And now for something completely different...
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 21:16:37
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1174959920.508285.138520@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 26, 8:26 pm, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>
>> ...Tom Sherman actually thinks Monty Python is funny....
>
> [Cue Sousa's "Liberty Bell ch"]
>
> And now for something completely different...
Would that the Liberty Bell would fall on your fucking head - you fucking
idiot!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 17:21:49
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
On 23, 10:27 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
> ...the posts of Tom Sherman... He edits too severely....
You think?
[rim shot]
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
GHAWAR IS DYING!
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 20:26:14
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1174695709.418421.262770@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 23, 10:27 am, Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate wrote:
>> ...the posts of Tom Sherman... He edits too severely....
>
> You think?
God damn right! Either shut your fucking mouth or post some sense, you god
damn fucking stupid son of a bitch!
Bu hey, you don't like it when I mention you in a favorable manner? That is
fine with me. From now on I will only mention you in an unfavorable manner
and see how you like it.
Here is an opener for you: Tom Sherman has the character of a jackass. He
has never once in his entire history on this newsgroup ever had anything
good to say about anyone, nor has he ever met anyone even halfway. He is
traitorous to the core, a coward of the worst sort and has the wit of a
numskull. In other words, he is your typical liberal.
This sorry asshole who goes by the name of Tom Sherman actually thinks Monty
Python is funny. I mean, just how dorky, nerdy and jerky can you get? Fuck
him!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 21:28:16
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
On 9, 10:37 pm, Joel <joelw135atcomcast.net > wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
>
> > On 8, 2:09 am, Buck <SPAMTRAP...@trikesandstuff.DOTco.DOTuk>
> > wrote:
> >> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
> >> group is dead.
>
> >> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
> >> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls
> >> and the spam.
>
> >> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
> >> lines at any one time,
> >> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
>
> > How does one make a non-subjective determination of what is and what
> > is not a "troll" post?
>
> > --
> > Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> > POST FREE OR DIE!
>
> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
example.
You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
responses.
[1] As g.daniels might write.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 20:53:12
From: Peter Clinch
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
> example.
It's all subjective as to who/waht etc. is a troll. However, if
there's someone who you feel is a PITA and does ARBR harm, and
repsonding to them only encourages them to continue to be a PITA
and cause ARBR harm, if you want ARBR to be a viable, useful place
it's probably a good idea not to respond to them.
Just act in your longer term self-interest. Nothing more, nothing
less.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 08:59:54
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
>> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
>> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
>> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
>> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
>> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
>> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
>
> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
> example.
>
> You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
> of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
> 4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
> Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
> 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
> combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
> would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
> group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
> responses.
>
Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves to
obfuscate.
"To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry list)
in order to bait other users into responding"
All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post something that
is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or engaging
in troll like behavior.
But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence and
ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a lowracer is
not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would use
ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with some
rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political views,
or gender. Then you've trolled.
Jeff
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 08:42:37
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Jeff Grippe" <jeff@door7.com > wrote in message
news:12v5efn6qno7ia6@news.supernews.com...
>>> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
>>> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
>>> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
>>> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
>>> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
>>> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
>>
>> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
>> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
>> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
>> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
>> example.
>>
>> You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
>> of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
>> 4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
>> Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
>> 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
>> combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
>> would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
>> group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
>> responses.
>>
>
> Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
> others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves to
> obfuscate.
>
> "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry
> list) in order to bait other users into responding"
>
> All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post something
> that is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or
> engaging in troll like behavior.
>
> But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence and
> ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a lowracer
> is not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would
> use ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with
> some rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political
> views, or gender. Then you've trolled.
>
> Jeff
>
In the noun sense (not nonsense) a troll is a grumpy figure that lives under
bridges and eats little children, or some such folk lore. In the good old
days when I owned a two cycle, three cylinder, oil injected SAAB 96, I had a
decal supplied by SAAB that said...Made in Trollhatton by Trolls, and I had
a little troll doll hanging from my rearview mirror. It was three inches
high and had blue hair and a pot belly; not very grumpy at all.
In the verb sense, troll is something fishermen do with small quiet motors
on their boats to slowly drag their bait and attract fish.
In the Usenet sense the verb part seems to be to toss out a post to attract
discussion and the noun sense attracts grumpy children eaters not only to
take the bait, but to attack the fisherman. Usenet is a bastion of free
speech, but not so a dictum of decorum and friendliness, but the
participants can be decorious and friendly. We can ignore posts and posters.
We can choose to be part of a friendly community and we can choose
participate in kind.
What helps to maintain civility is to accept posters foibles. Critism of
style is largely useless. Maintaining a civil discourse is not necessarily
easy, but that is the measure of Usenet's power and attractiveness as
opposed to the Stepford wifeness of moderated boards. Those have their
place. Personal attacks and verbal denigration are enforced by the
particular prejudices of the moderator. Many participants seem to be overly
sycophantic and react like Bushian Republicans to any deviation from their
preconceptions of the high prupose of living the recumbent life. Personally
I visit there, but then I like to visit here where I can let my hair down,
drink a beer with friends and pass that spliff around.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 09:18:02
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
Jeff Grippe wrote:
>>> Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
>>> obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
>>> to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
>>> here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
>>> inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
>>> a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
>> butbutbut [1], what about the gray areas? It is all too easy to step
>> over the line and over moderate a discussion, where the moderators
>> take on condescending and/or authoritarian airs. I believe there are
>> sufficient well known examples of this that I need not post an
>> example.
>>
>> You seem to be using "troll" as a noun, e.g., "Following his purchase
>> of a bottle of Livingston Cellars Red Rose, the troll retreated to his
>> 4th Avenue hovel". There is also use of "troll" as a verb, e.g. Johnny
>> Sunset trolled alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent by contending that an ISO
>> 305-mm front wheel combined with an ISO 406-mm rear wheel is the ideal
>> combination for a user friendly lowracer. The latter is on-topic, and
>> would not by logic be considered disruptive or destructive to the
>> group, yet it is still a troll, since it is attempting to elicit
>> responses.
>>
>
> Tom, you are selecting parts of the def that you want to and ignoring
> others. It works great in debates or politics but here it only serves to
> obfuscate.
>
> "To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory commenats to (laundry list)
> in order to bait other users into responding"
>
> All usenet messages are an invitation to respond. If you post something that
> is not derogatory or inflammatory then you are not being a troll or engaging
> in troll like behavior.
>
> But you know this already. Don't take the second half of the sentence and
> ignore the first half. Talking about ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a lowracer is
> not trolling. If you were to say instead "Only idiots and morons would use
> ISO 406 mm rear wheels on a low racer." and then follow it up with some
> rek about where the poster is from or their ethnicity, political views,
> or gender. Then you've trolled.
>
> Jeff
>
>
It is very oblivious to me and most others here that the Troll finds
delight in the destruction of the news group, and others have just stood
there and allowed it to happen by answering him, instead of blocking him
as I have done. This news group could remain alive, if you all did the
same. And between you and me if we all would grow up and not be baited
into a useless debate over a lowlife then we would all be better off. I
use BROL, but if there was another moderated group I would join, just to
hear other benters views on subjects.
Joel
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 18:46:42
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
On 8, 2:09 am, Buck <SPAMTRAP...@trikesandstuff.DOTco.DOTuk >
wrote:
> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
> group is dead.
>
> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls
> and the spam.
>
> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
> lines at any one time,
> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
How does one make a non-subjective determination of what is and what
is not a "troll" post?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
POST FREE OR DIE!
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 23:37:20
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> On 8, 2:09 am, Buck <SPAMTRAP...@trikesandstuff.DOTco.DOTuk>
> wrote:
>> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
>> group is dead.
>>
>> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
>> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls
>> and the spam.
>>
>> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
>> lines at any one time,
>> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
>
> How does one make a non-subjective determination of what is and what
> is not a "troll" post?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> POST FREE OR DIE!
>
Tom you really don't need an example of a Troll do you? If it isn't
obvious to you it is to most of us here. If someone on there own tries
to destroy conversation or berates other users he is a troll! better yet
here is the Webopedia def: (v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or
inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or
a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 10:44:43
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
|
"Buck" <SPAMTRAPian@trikesandstuff.DOTco.DOTuk > wrote in message
news:2007030808090475249-SPAMTRAPian@trikesandstuffDOTcoDOTuk...
>I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
>group is dead.
>
> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls and
> the spam.
>
> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject lines
> at any one time,
> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
> --
> Three wheels good, two wheels ok
>
> www.catrike.co.uk
>
If the group gets shut down, shouldn't that be in the perview of it's
originator, M*rt*n Kr**g, the king of cross posting. It is his group, not
Catrike Buck of the U, which is a bit ironic as M*rt*n has been in my kill
file since the first week I suscribed to the group in "99.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 12:06:10
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On Fri, 9 2007 10:44:43 -0600, "gotbent"
<gotbent@dontsendmail.com > wrote:
>If the group gets shut down, shouldn't that be in the perview of it's
>originator, M*rt*n Kr**g, the king of cross posting. It is his group, not
>Catrike Buck of the U, which is a bit ironic as M*rt*n has been in my kill
>file since the first week I suscribed to the group in "99.
No, once you start a non-moderated group, it belongs to anyone that
posts to it - and to no one. FWIW, I haven't seen a posting from He
That Will Not Be Mentioned in a very long time. His ch/ride across
the U.S. didn't quite live up to the hyperbole either.
And I wait for his two volume autobiography, to be released with an
Old and a New Testament...
Sorry, I'm not a MK fan.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 08:20:42
From:
Subject: Re: Troll food
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Joel wrote:
> Eco! Still didn't get the thing aligned? Are you supposed to have toe-in
> or out? This adjustment should be cut and dry, but there might be
> something we are missing.
Quick detour for alignment (!) I had the trike adjusted perfectly- 0
toe-in, 0 toe-out with my weight for frame flex. Went great for about
2 miles. Went in my own driveway- that bump knocked it right out of
alignment- coasted about 10 feet- stopped dead ( should have rolled
backwards due to grade but it did not move).
Loosened all 4 nuts (hein joint on the L & R ends) turned the end
right where it was in the first place- aligned! Tighten everything
up, ride a few more easy miles, hit a pothole- slowed way down. That
time I was too far to get yardsticks to measure front/back of wheels,
so I guessed- just loosed and removed one side. Twisted it, put it
back together- good enough to get home.
Owners manual says how important alignment is, and to check it often,
but 0 toe is great- if it will stay there!
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 12:04:09
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Troll food
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eco_milage_buster_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>> Eco! Still didn't get the thing aligned? Are you supposed to have toe-in
>> or out? This adjustment should be cut and dry, but there might be
>> something we are missing.
> Quick detour for alignment (!) I had the trike adjusted perfectly- 0
> toe-in, 0 toe-out with my weight for frame flex. Went great for about
> 2 miles. Went in my own driveway- that bump knocked it right out of
> alignment- coasted about 10 feet- stopped dead ( should have rolled
> backwards due to grade but it did not move).
>
> Loosened all 4 nuts (hein joint on the L & R ends) turned the end
> right where it was in the first place- aligned! Tighten everything
> up, ride a few more easy miles, hit a pothole- slowed way down. That
> time I was too far to get yardsticks to measure front/back of wheels,
> so I guessed- just loosed and removed one side. Twisted it, put it
> back together- good enough to get home.
>
> Owners manual says how important alignment is, and to check it often,
> but 0 toe is great- if it will stay there!
>
It sounds like a thread on one of the connections is loose and or
stripped. So when ever you hit a bump it pulls out. Maybe a bad tie-rod
end or tie-rod.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 10:39:21
From: gotbent
Subject: was Re: Troll food, now TOE-IN
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<eco_milage_buster_2005@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173457242.646601.115010@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com...
> Joel wrote:
>> Eco! Still didn't get the thing aligned? Are you supposed to have toe-in
>> or out? This adjustment should be cut and dry, but there might be
>> something we are missing.
> Quick detour for alignment (!) I had the trike adjusted perfectly- 0
> toe-in, 0 toe-out with my weight for frame flex. Went great for about
> 2 miles. Went in my own driveway- that bump knocked it right out of
> alignment- coasted about 10 feet- stopped dead ( should have rolled
> backwards due to grade but it did not move).
>
> Loosened all 4 nuts (hein joint on the L & R ends) turned the end
> right where it was in the first place- aligned! Tighten everything
> up, ride a few more easy miles, hit a pothole- slowed way down. That
> time I was too far to get yardsticks to measure front/back of wheels,
> so I guessed- just loosed and removed one side. Twisted it, put it
> back together- good enough to get home.
>
> Owners manual says how important alignment is, and to check it often,
> but 0 toe is great- if it will stay there!
>
Are the tie rods straight, as in not bent? Do you use blue Loc-Tite on the
threads? If jam nuts are tight and the threads have Loc-Tite on them, there
shouldn't be any change to toe-in unless the unobvious is happening. Loose
king pin bearings, loose axle nuts, bent tie rods, worn Heim joints (ball
joints...spherical ball ends), loose or worn headset bearings on the stem,
etc.
Can you post a link to a photo of your trike so we can get a better idea of
the front end mechanism and geometry?
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 21:32:21
From: Mark the biker
Subject: Re: Troll food
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On 8, 12:09 am, Buck <SPAMTRAP...@trikesandstuff.DOTco.DOTuk >
wrote:
> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
> group is dead.
>
> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls
> and the spam.
>
> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
> lines at any one time,
> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
> --
> Three wheels good, two wheels ok
>
> www.catrike.co.uk
I invite all your friends who don't like it here to join with you and
leave the group to never return. Take with you the people who like to
write nasty poetry about other people and think it is all good and
fair to do it because they give that person the name of troll. Take
your Johnny jackboots(nocom) with you too, we don't need dumb shits to
mess up our group.
Don't like it here then leave. It is just that simple. We clear cut
in the forest so that new seedlings can be planted. I just got a stihl
sm260 and it cuts damn fast.
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 17:03:38
From:
Subject: Re: Troll food
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Ian George wrote:
> Would I join a moderated usenet list? Nope. There are plenty of web forums,
> mail lists and e-groups that do that job more than adequately if censorship
> is your thing.
>
> 'n
Well, I have joined moderated groups. As I found out; I had
inadvertedly posted here on ARBR and I found my posts all over the web
(and usually out of context) in several groups; so I just joined each
one with a different alias.
I figured that the best 'killfile' was between my ears and I rather
enjoy comments from "way out in left field" (and relish my own
posession of my humor and/or controllable sanity). There is a limit
to postings, and when encountered - I just imagine an "ignore" button.
Then I have the energy to go outside and swear at that damn
alignment.... >:-(
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 09:13:48
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
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<eco_milage_buster_2005@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1173402218.535786.183890@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Ian George wrote:
>> Would I join a moderated usenet list? Nope. There are plenty of web
>> forums,
>> mail lists and e-groups that do that job more than adequately if
>> censorship
>> is your thing.
>>
>> 'n
> Well, I have joined moderated groups. As I found out; I had
> inadvertedly posted here on ARBR and I found my posts all over the web
> (and usually out of context) in several groups; so I just joined each
> one with a different alias.
>
> I figured that the best 'killfile' was between my ears and I rather
> enjoy comments from "way out in left field" (and relish my own
> posession of my humor and/or controllable sanity). There is a limit
> to postings, and when encountered - I just imagine an "ignore" button.
>
> Then I have the energy to go outside and swear at that damn
> alignment.... >:-(
>
ECO (engineering change order?)
Probably the reason you found your messages propagating like the diaspora is
that you replied to a massively cross-posted thread. You can view the
posting destination in the newreader and use click and drag editing to
remove the destinations not desired to keep the reply to the relevent
group(s).
Just curious about the alignment problem; have you been able to contact the
manufacturer for instructions on resolving the problem?
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 10:00:48
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Troll food
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eco_milage_buster_2005@yahoo.com wrote:
> Ian George wrote:
>> Would I join a moderated usenet list? Nope. There are plenty of web forums,
>> mail lists and e-groups that do that job more than adequately if censorship
>> is your thing.
>>
>> 'n
> Well, I have joined moderated groups. As I found out; I had
> inadvertedly posted here on ARBR and I found my posts all over the web
> (and usually out of context) in several groups; so I just joined each
> one with a different alias.
>
> I figured that the best 'killfile' was between my ears and I rather
> enjoy comments from "way out in left field" (and relish my own
> posession of my humor and/or controllable sanity). There is a limit
> to postings, and when encountered - I just imagine an "ignore" button.
>
> Then I have the energy to go outside and swear at that damn
> alignment.... >:-(
>
Eco! Still didn't get the thing aligned? Are you supposed to have toe-in
or out? This adjustment should be cut and dry, but there might be
something we are missing.
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 23:56:09
From: Ian George
Subject: Re: Troll food
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Buck wrote:
> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that
> this group is dead.
>
> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent
> newsgroup, it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out
> the trolls and the spam.
>
> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
> lines at any one time,
> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
You are going to set up a moderated list on the basis that you can't handle
the existence of one troll? No wonder usenet is dying.
I only lurk here because, whilst I love my Greenspeed trike, I don't really
have a lot to say about it and frankly, would rather spend time riding it
than writing about riding it.
I'm sure there are enough posters lurking here that could and would answer a
question if I needed to ask one, as I would happly give an answer or an
opinion if someone asked for advice or an opinion that I felt I could assist
with.
Would I join a moderated usenet list? Nope. There are plenty of web forums,
mail lists and e-groups that do that job more than adequately if censorship
is your thing.
'n
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Date: 10 Mar 2007 08:51:19
From: Jeff Grippe
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Ian George" <ianwho@yugswen.com > wrote in message
news:to1Ih.8884$8U4.6440@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Would I join a moderated usenet list? Nope. There are plenty of web
> forums, mail lists and e-groups that do that job more than adequately if
> censorship is your thing.
>
I don't think I'd join a moderated group either although I could probably be
accused of being one of the biggest troll baiters. BROL really does the
trick for moderated bent talk. This group is far from dead especially
lately. I think that the trolls can be confined and that good conversation
can occur around them.
Jeff
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 18:41:21
From: gotbent
Subject: Re: Troll food
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"Ian George" <ianwho@yugswen.com > wrote in message
news:to1Ih.8884$8U4.6440@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Buck wrote:
>> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that
>> this group is dead.
>>
>> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent
>> newsgroup, it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out
>> the trolls and the spam.
>>
>> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject
>> lines at any one time,
>> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
>
> You are going to set up a moderated list on the basis that you can't
> handle the existence of one troll? No wonder usenet is dying.
>
> I only lurk here because, whilst I love my Greenspeed trike, I don't
> really have a lot to say about it and frankly, would rather spend time
> riding it than writing about riding it.
>
> I'm sure there are enough posters lurking here that could and would answer
> a question if I needed to ask one, as I would happly give an answer or an
> opinion if someone asked for advice or an opinion that I felt I could
> assist with.
>
> Would I join a moderated usenet list? Nope. There are plenty of web
> forums, mail lists and e-groups that do that job more than adequately if
> censorship is your thing.
>
> 'n
>
Well said!
--
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 11:37:42
From: Joel
Subject: Re: Troll food
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Buck wrote:
> I think it is safe to say despite the assurances of the Troll that this
> group is dead.
>
> I am going through the motions of setting up a new recumbent newsgroup,
> it will have a mild amount of moderation, only to weed out the trolls
> and the spam.
>
> My kill files currently reduce this group to around 6 to 8 subject lines
> at any one time,
> on topic posts are still full of Troll shit, time to close it down.
Sounds like a great idea to me. I have been using my filters to ignore
the Troll.
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